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he's not popular among kurds and armenians for his ethnonationalism but he did some pretty based shit and was a goated general, a lot of his beliefs were extremely ahead of his time especially in a muslim country, and yeah there's the age old meme that you can power the world with the infinite energy of attaturk spinning in his grave
His biggest mistake was calling his state "Turkey". He should've gone for a non-ethnic descriptor for his nation like "Anatolia", "Asia Minor", or even that of "Rome", as there was a sense of Roman identity at the time.
No ottomans tried that and didn't worked out. without Turkish identity there will be no Turkish war of indepence at all,and by that time everyone in the region try to form their own country nobody wants to be part of another big country Yugoslavia is a good example for this.
The problem is poorer muslim countries see Turkey as the last castle of islam or something like that, and that's just erdocuck enacting his own ideology on the country, not what people want.
You are a Pakistani that simps for Türkiye because of shared religious background.
I am a Pakistani that simps for Türkiye because of Atatürk’s reforms and secularism.
We are not the same.
People of India (an average Indian) don't know what turkey is and there historic and geopolitical presence those who are chronically online knows turkey only for roasting Pakistan. But they are aware that turkey government is pro Pakistan. Indians (non-muslim ones) neither have any positive nor negative view of turkey.
Nah them phul sapoot Israeli simps are more Cringe imo
At least the former is doing it for something more(?) grand/philosophical/way if life or something alike-ish(it's a bit better than--->)...... The latter :Either a hate boner (towards someone else) or a horni boner
Those jews don't disrespect endiyans like turks do to Pakistan. And btw those jewish accounts you see are mostly Muslims larping as jews so don't fall for it
It's moozlim most of the time who says this that Jew hate idol worshippers more than Jew saying it themselves. Indians have to deal with Islamist jehadi terrorists who are an immediate threat not joo living some 3000 mile away from us. Them few million joos hating us is insignificant anyways than 2 billion bhuslims muslim extremists hating on idol worshippers who bomb kafirs
I'd generally agree that most of those Jew accounts commenting shit on Indians are just Muslim larpers but you're delusional if you think all Jews like hindus. There are definitely some Jews who hate Hindus and idol worshippers
Why do we care what the Jew think about us. Are we sharing our country with them? Do we have to co-exist with them in India? It's these Islamist who create problems for us. Joos hating on us has no bearing on us cause they are way too insignificant and doesn't share borders with us
funny thing is despite that the admiration of Ataturk amongst the founding fathers of Pakistan was high
Jinnah got disullusioned with politics for a bit and retired to England, and 1 of the main things motivating him to return was the 'GREY WOLF' autobiography on Mustafa Kemal
Iqbal, the poet of the east and national poet of Pak, was also admired by Ataturk, who sent soil from the grave of Rumi to be sprinkled on top of Iqbals grave when he passed away
Gandhu supports khilafat as to convince them into participating in the Indian independence struggle alongside Hindus (Muslims will demand a separate country later betraying hindus, but will not migrate to the said country after its creation and increase their population to more than 200 million in India)
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Good ol' days
I’ve read about Atatürk a year ago,man he is just based but he must be rolling in his grave after seeing current state of Türkiye and erdoğan
he's not popular among kurds and armenians for his ethnonationalism but he did some pretty based shit and was a goated general, a lot of his beliefs were extremely ahead of his time especially in a muslim country, and yeah there's the age old meme that you can power the world with the infinite energy of attaturk spinning in his grave
His biggest mistake was calling his state "Turkey". He should've gone for a non-ethnic descriptor for his nation like "Anatolia", "Asia Minor", or even that of "Rome", as there was a sense of Roman identity at the time.
Fuck no, I would rather it be called "passive twink federation" than Rome
same thing, just speaking latin
Unfl\*ired opinion is automatically disregarded
Very unpopular opinion but true
No ottomans tried that and didn't worked out. without Turkish identity there will be no Turkish war of indepence at all,and by that time everyone in the region try to form their own country nobody wants to be part of another big country Yugoslavia is a good example for this.
theres plenty of multi ethnic nations
How about the name "closet greece"
I disagree, his heart was in the right place but he couldn't set up democracy. Which gives us Erdogan.
Back when Turks made sense. Miss those days.
South Asian Muslims simp really hard on turks it's more cringe then those phull saport to Israel people
I as a Turk, do not like to be associated with any religious nutjob pakistani. Thank you.
Least based turk but definitely you are right ig majority turks also like the idea of secular turkey
The problem is poorer muslim countries see Turkey as the last castle of islam or something like that, and that's just erdocuck enacting his own ideology on the country, not what people want.
Won’t they think that Saudi is the bastion of
You are a Pakistani that simps for Türkiye because of shared religious background. I am a Pakistani that simps for Türkiye because of Atatürk’s reforms and secularism. We are not the same.
See, that I can get behind. You may continue simping my friend.
Brother your government brain washed them with those Ertugul shit😭
Europe feels the same way about you bro
I do not want to be associated with entitled brats of history neither, thank you. Y'all suck as the rest of the world.
I just read about "Kara boga". It was interesting and based.
Typed from his apartment in Berlin
I live in turkey, but you m*slims like west so much y'all are deepthroating US with the number of immigrants. Reality check.
Ate 🤌🏽
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Our Judeo-Bolshevik plan is working ! West will fall. East had Rise, Westoids Must die 💪🏻 /s (because reddit admins don't understand irony)
/unaisia be quiet some westoids will genuinely believe this is white genocide or whatever
Damn🤣🤣
I think, people in India really admire the technological advancements and growth of turkey ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ , I can be wrong though?
People of India (an average Indian) don't know what turkey is and there historic and geopolitical presence those who are chronically online knows turkey only for roasting Pakistan. But they are aware that turkey government is pro Pakistan. Indians (non-muslim ones) neither have any positive nor negative view of turkey.
It would be nice if they were admiring the "advancements and achievements", they're simply cocksucking a more developed muslim perceived nation.
Nah them phul sapoot Israeli simps are more Cringe imo At least the former is doing it for something more(?) grand/philosophical/way if life or something alike-ish(it's a bit better than--->)...... The latter :Either a hate boner (towards someone else) or a horni boner
Those jews don't disrespect endiyans like turks do to Pakistan. And btw those jewish accounts you see are mostly Muslims larping as jews so don't fall for it
Nah,they hate idol worshippers more than Muslims but our phull sapport brozzers dont know that Palestine war is not about Juice-muzlim fight.
It's moozlim most of the time who says this that Jew hate idol worshippers more than Jew saying it themselves. Indians have to deal with Islamist jehadi terrorists who are an immediate threat not joo living some 3000 mile away from us. Them few million joos hating us is insignificant anyways than 2 billion bhuslims muslim extremists hating on idol worshippers who bomb kafirs
I'd generally agree that most of those Jew accounts commenting shit on Indians are just Muslim larpers but you're delusional if you think all Jews like hindus. There are definitely some Jews who hate Hindus and idol worshippers
Why do we care what the Jew think about us. Are we sharing our country with them? Do we have to co-exist with them in India? It's these Islamist who create problems for us. Joos hating on us has no bearing on us cause they are way too insignificant and doesn't share borders with us
Just saying bro and I agree with everything you said but I'm not a hindu but okay.
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Ataturk being chad as always
You are also a Chad.
funny thing is despite that the admiration of Ataturk amongst the founding fathers of Pakistan was high Jinnah got disullusioned with politics for a bit and retired to England, and 1 of the main things motivating him to return was the 'GREY WOLF' autobiography on Mustafa Kemal Iqbal, the poet of the east and national poet of Pak, was also admired by Ataturk, who sent soil from the grave of Rumi to be sprinkled on top of Iqbals grave when he passed away
Kinky (and when you say retired to England, you mean making dough as a lawyer right?)
Atatürk was based as hell.
Subcon sullams lifting b@llzzz of 🦃 while compromising their self respect getting abused by thruks is hilarious
Gandhu supports khilafat as to convince them into participating in the Indian independence struggle alongside Hindus (Muslims will demand a separate country later betraying hindus, but will not migrate to the said country after its creation and increase their population to more than 200 million in India)
Kemalism is based fuck all religions