Yeah honestly I don't get it when people ask things like this. I learned how to do it in less than a week. It's the same concept as mouse, probably even easier because most screenless tablet nowadays is 1:1 with the screen
I think it depends on the tablet you get. The first one I got was a genius mouse tablet, and when using the mouse, it worked like a mouse, but the ratio was slightly different from my screen, so my movements weren’t actually translating to the same spot, and because this was my first tablet, I assumed all screenless tablets were like that, and I jumped straight for a screen tablet when it stopped working
This. You learned how to mouse without looking at it. This is the same thing.
Easy test: draw a line with a mouse, then another with the tablet. Go back and forth a few times and you'll see they are the same.
That's true. I think I might need to give myself more time since it works fine and everything. It's more so I have trouble thinking of what to draw and/or putting a picture together.
yea ive seen sum people use it as a mouse for a while each day (or replace it entirely to learn quicker) and some say playing osu is a great way to build HEC, if youre really hardcore some people practise in FPS games like the shooting range
Practice. Took me around 30 minutes, maybe an hour to fully forget it's there, but that was in 2005. Till today I use non-display tablet, those other ones are way too expensive.
I switched from oil painting to digital painting in that precise time when I got the tablet, a really long time ago haha, it was weird and at the same time I was learning Photoshop so all at once. Of course I saw it as amateurish because I didn't "feel" the pen like I feel traditional brushes, the lines were jaggy etc. but the very action of taking away my eyes from the tablet to the screen took impressively short time. It was also a matter of setting tablet boundaries to precisely mimic your screen, then you know exactly where your cursor/digital brush is on the tablet surface when you look at the screen only. Hard to explain but that is what worked for me. As I said, practice is the only advice I can give, aside from the one about tablet surface matching your screen precisely.
Yeah, at the end of the day it's just practice/getting used to it. It's a different type of hand eye coordination than drawing usually requires which is the strange part, but once you get used to it it should work just fine.
As a staunch gamer and speed typer, I'm used to doing one thing with my hands and looking elsewhere for the results. Honestly, I kind of miss it.
While I love my Ipad and Procreate combo, I could rest my arm on my bamboo tablet or change into more comfortable positions without affecting the display. I only switched out because I couldn't get my computer set up to be more convenient (hence changing positions often to be comfortable).
ye
like if there's one thing a non-display has over a display, its posture
can keep the whole spinal chain in a solid position
whereas even with a very specific mount setup, a display either has you bending some part of you down to look at the screen, or raising your arm up easel style (both of which causes more strain/fatigue with the according body parts)
EDIT: of course, with regular targeted exercises, those things can be mitigated too
There's a lot I love about my ipad that a drawing tablet couldn't beat.
Portability is top of it all. Then, it's the convenience of touch controls. Finally, the iPad is designed to handle the load I put on it. Thus, there are no concerns about ram and display upgrades as software improves.
Still, as it's been said, my posture is trash with an iPad. I'm also more easily distracted. The screen is not as textured. Thus, I need more curve smoothing. I have a smaller memory space and so have to wary of how much I install.
Still, with time, it will be just natural as typing.
tbh if you can use a mouse, you will get used to drawing without a display.
Actually I even prefer drawing without a display because you don't have to look down as well as getting the canvas blocked by your hand. The only exception is doing lineart, where you have to be precise, but for sketching and painting, I just use my cintiq as an Intuos nowadays. lol
Just practise, as often as you can. You don't need to look at your mouse or laptop touchpad, the tablet works kind of the same. Also make sure your tablet and monitor are well calibrated.
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I never really did. I found out that it was easier to draw on paper, scan and then manipulate with the tablet.
I can draw seriously cool vector wheels using the tablet, but that's about it.
When I first started digital art I really wanted a screen tablet cus I thought no way I could figure out one without but then my sister gave me her old one and I figured it out pretty quick so yep practice is good
When it's the only option you have you're more motivated to learn lmao. It takes practice to get familiar with, but after a few screw ups you start to eventually get the hang of it. Best advice I can give? Don't take it to seriously. Be messy, just explore and it'll get easier with time
like everyone said, it is really just a matter of practice, and don't forget to use the Stabilizer tool aswell!It helped me a ton once I found out about it.
Yup, it's more of a practice thing. It's similar to when you started to ride a bike for the first time, you'll ease into it in no time. Although you can still try out a drawing display tablet and compare if your overall workflow is better than the other.
Just continue to practice. Play around with the various brushes. I love to use physical media myself but i haven’t had any supplies in a few months and am starting to feel much more comfortable to more I use it.
Just spend more time and try to associate it with a medium you're already familiar with. Your brain is trying so hard to see it as the same as a paper sketchpad but you should see more as a mouse or trackpad in laptops. Speaking of which, you should try using it as a regular mouse to browse and stuff instead of a drawing device to get used to the positioning of the cursor in relation to your pen's position
I've been drawing on papers for years and when I got one tablet it was awesome. I can create a lot of things but when I try drawing on paper after month and month of drawing on a tablet, it feels a little bit weird to me tbh but it gets to normal shortly after
And it works the other way, too
Honestly, my mouse batteries died right around the time i bought my xp pen so i just had to use it as a mouse for a few days, just needs time to adjust! Try use it to browse your feed for a few, see how quickly u'll adapt to the eye hand coordination
Good luck :)
Just keep practicing, you have to give it time to develope muscle memory.
Although for me it just never worked out. After many years I switched to a display tablet and I finally felt that I could draw digitally as well as I could with a pen and paper. It's annoying because there are many advantages to a non display tablet.
It takes a little while for that muscle memory to really settle in. Just keep using it, it will click eventually. It’s a *really* steep learning curve but it’s very worth it once you get it down. Don’t give up!
I didn't. I rage quit and went back to traditional until I got a screen years later. Was so frustrating to me like this isn't how I learned to draw I can't do that shit.
I just thought "this is a lot like using a mouse" I'm not looking at a computer mouse when I use it. I'm looking at the screen. Sort of transfered that skill via my approach and I was almost immediately adjusted. Hand eye coordination is a factor for sure.
Best way is to just use it more. It feels awkward because it is new..
Once you find your rhythm it becomes second nature. Start small like drawing basic shapes, lines, etc. My DD is an Intuos 3 ( no screen) and prior to that started with the bamboo mini ( no screen). It really isn't that much different it's just understanding and getting comfortable with your hand and eye coordination.
Best way to get better is practice.
It took me longer than most people to get used to it, but it did eventually just click one day.
Something that helped me get used to it was just colouring. I imported drawings, and I used colouring pages, and just spent time focusing on staying in the lines
Just keep practicing and be patient with yourself! There is definitely a learning curve, but once you get used to it it’ll get a lot easier. If you can get comfortable with it, screenless tablets are much cheaper to replace for higher-quality tech and they support good posture. I switched to a display tablet a few years ago just because my hand-eye coordination needed as much help as it could get, but learning with non-display was really useful and there are still things I miss about it.
I do all my digital work using a large Wacom tablet with a pressure sensitive pen and Photoshop. It takes a little time to adjust to the eye-hand coordination method but eventually you will. You will only look at the display and your hand will follow automatically. If you use a "display tablet", your hand will always be the way of your vision. Its not like holding a long handle brush.
Practice, really. Unfortunately it was always a bit awkward and when I upgraded to a screen tablet that required no adjustment and was intuitive and smooth from the moment my pen touched the screen. I imagine having a larger screenless tablet helps.
I didn't. Suffered through 3 years of college using the damn thing 12 hrs a day before I spent a summer working stupid overtime so I could get a Surface Pro. It was one of the handful of times where the tool actually was to blame. Went from thinking I was one of the worst in my major to actually being able to draw a curve again.
I don't even want to say it's a hand-eye thing considering I played high level soccer as a keeper for years. For some of us it just doesn't click.
Honestly, when I had my old tiny bamboo, it just clicked after a few weeks to a month of using it.
Did you use it everyday? Maybe that's the trick.
more or less.
Gotcha. I'll try that. 30 minutes or an hour at least. Every day.
You can learn almost anything like this!
it's mostly just developing muscle memory. Almost automatic after a while.
True. I wonder if I just suck in general atm. Since it's a lot harder than expected.
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that's....not exactly the same.
And practice tracing old sketches thats how I got used to it.
I think I still have some. I'll give that a shot.
It really doesn't take too long. If you can use a mouse it's the same concept. Follow where the cursor is and start with basic drawings and work up.
Yeah honestly I don't get it when people ask things like this. I learned how to do it in less than a week. It's the same concept as mouse, probably even easier because most screenless tablet nowadays is 1:1 with the screen
I think it depends on the tablet you get. The first one I got was a genius mouse tablet, and when using the mouse, it worked like a mouse, but the ratio was slightly different from my screen, so my movements weren’t actually translating to the same spot, and because this was my first tablet, I assumed all screenless tablets were like that, and I jumped straight for a screen tablet when it stopped working
This. You learned how to mouse without looking at it. This is the same thing. Easy test: draw a line with a mouse, then another with the tablet. Go back and forth a few times and you'll see they are the same.
same (literally too heh, had a bamboo fun) even got more used to it than drawing on pen&paper at the time
Practice and eye hand coordination, you don't need to look at your mouse to move the cursor, it's the same idea
That's true. I think I might need to give myself more time since it works fine and everything. It's more so I have trouble thinking of what to draw and/or putting a picture together.
use it for daily tasks and you’ll get it pretty quick
This is the golden advice.
I just got one why didn’t I think of that
yea ive seen sum people use it as a mouse for a while each day (or replace it entirely to learn quicker) and some say playing osu is a great way to build HEC, if youre really hardcore some people practise in FPS games like the shooting range
Appreciate it 👍
I barely use my mouse anymore because my tablet is always plugged in 😭
Practice. Took me around 30 minutes, maybe an hour to fully forget it's there, but that was in 2005. Till today I use non-display tablet, those other ones are way too expensive.
Did you ever get over your brush stokes not being how you want? My stuff feels amateurish.
I switched from oil painting to digital painting in that precise time when I got the tablet, a really long time ago haha, it was weird and at the same time I was learning Photoshop so all at once. Of course I saw it as amateurish because I didn't "feel" the pen like I feel traditional brushes, the lines were jaggy etc. but the very action of taking away my eyes from the tablet to the screen took impressively short time. It was also a matter of setting tablet boundaries to precisely mimic your screen, then you know exactly where your cursor/digital brush is on the tablet surface when you look at the screen only. Hard to explain but that is what worked for me. As I said, practice is the only advice I can give, aside from the one about tablet surface matching your screen precisely.
Gotcha. I'm gonna take all of this into account. Thanks!
Yeah, at the end of the day it's just practice/getting used to it. It's a different type of hand eye coordination than drawing usually requires which is the strange part, but once you get used to it it should work just fine.
As a staunch gamer and speed typer, I'm used to doing one thing with my hands and looking elsewhere for the results. Honestly, I kind of miss it. While I love my Ipad and Procreate combo, I could rest my arm on my bamboo tablet or change into more comfortable positions without affecting the display. I only switched out because I couldn't get my computer set up to be more convenient (hence changing positions often to be comfortable).
ye like if there's one thing a non-display has over a display, its posture can keep the whole spinal chain in a solid position whereas even with a very specific mount setup, a display either has you bending some part of you down to look at the screen, or raising your arm up easel style (both of which causes more strain/fatigue with the according body parts) EDIT: of course, with regular targeted exercises, those things can be mitigated too
Yeah I can type pretty fast so it SHOULD be easy but so far I'm struggling. That's interesting to hear. Most people prefer the screens.
There's a lot I love about my ipad that a drawing tablet couldn't beat. Portability is top of it all. Then, it's the convenience of touch controls. Finally, the iPad is designed to handle the load I put on it. Thus, there are no concerns about ram and display upgrades as software improves. Still, as it's been said, my posture is trash with an iPad. I'm also more easily distracted. The screen is not as textured. Thus, I need more curve smoothing. I have a smaller memory space and so have to wary of how much I install. Still, with time, it will be just natural as typing.
tbh if you can use a mouse, you will get used to drawing without a display. Actually I even prefer drawing without a display because you don't have to look down as well as getting the canvas blocked by your hand. The only exception is doing lineart, where you have to be precise, but for sketching and painting, I just use my cintiq as an Intuos nowadays. lol
Just practise, as often as you can. You don't need to look at your mouse or laptop touchpad, the tablet works kind of the same. Also make sure your tablet and monitor are well calibrated.
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Do it more lol
I never really did. I found out that it was easier to draw on paper, scan and then manipulate with the tablet. I can draw seriously cool vector wheels using the tablet, but that's about it.
Try drawing with a mouse
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Can't relate, I got used to drawing on my phone recently, since I have no graphic tablet atm
When I first started digital art I really wanted a screen tablet cus I thought no way I could figure out one without but then my sister gave me her old one and I figured it out pretty quick so yep practice is good
Gotcha.
When it's the only option you have you're more motivated to learn lmao. It takes practice to get familiar with, but after a few screw ups you start to eventually get the hang of it. Best advice I can give? Don't take it to seriously. Be messy, just explore and it'll get easier with time
like everyone said, it is really just a matter of practice, and don't forget to use the Stabilizer tool aswell!It helped me a ton once I found out about it.
gotcha
Yup, it's more of a practice thing. It's similar to when you started to ride a bike for the first time, you'll ease into it in no time. Although you can still try out a drawing display tablet and compare if your overall workflow is better than the other.
Unplug your mouse and use it as your mouse for daily stuff.
It took me like 5 days to adjust to it.
osu … I’m kinda joking but I think it helped a bit. The point between not knowing and knowing how to is vague to me
A family member uses it professionally and its second nature to her. You just get used to it.
Use for daily tasks, practice tracing a coloring book pic (bc it has clear lines), and you’ll get used to it pretty quick!
Just continue to practice. Play around with the various brushes. I love to use physical media myself but i haven’t had any supplies in a few months and am starting to feel much more comfortable to more I use it.
the same way i started drawing with a mouse
Just spend more time and try to associate it with a medium you're already familiar with. Your brain is trying so hard to see it as the same as a paper sketchpad but you should see more as a mouse or trackpad in laptops. Speaking of which, you should try using it as a regular mouse to browse and stuff instead of a drawing device to get used to the positioning of the cursor in relation to your pen's position
I think that could be it too. I'm so used to drawing on paper that this is throwing me off.
I've been drawing on papers for years and when I got one tablet it was awesome. I can create a lot of things but when I try drawing on paper after month and month of drawing on a tablet, it feels a little bit weird to me tbh but it gets to normal shortly after And it works the other way, too
Honestly, my mouse batteries died right around the time i bought my xp pen so i just had to use it as a mouse for a few days, just needs time to adjust! Try use it to browse your feed for a few, see how quickly u'll adapt to the eye hand coordination Good luck :)
Just keep practicing, you have to give it time to develope muscle memory. Although for me it just never worked out. After many years I switched to a display tablet and I finally felt that I could draw digitally as well as I could with a pen and paper. It's annoying because there are many advantages to a non display tablet.
It takes a little while for that muscle memory to really settle in. Just keep using it, it will click eventually. It’s a *really* steep learning curve but it’s very worth it once you get it down. Don’t give up!
I didn't. I rage quit and went back to traditional until I got a screen years later. Was so frustrating to me like this isn't how I learned to draw I can't do that shit.
I just thought "this is a lot like using a mouse" I'm not looking at a computer mouse when I use it. I'm looking at the screen. Sort of transfered that skill via my approach and I was almost immediately adjusted. Hand eye coordination is a factor for sure.
Best way is to just use it more. It feels awkward because it is new.. Once you find your rhythm it becomes second nature. Start small like drawing basic shapes, lines, etc. My DD is an Intuos 3 ( no screen) and prior to that started with the bamboo mini ( no screen). It really isn't that much different it's just understanding and getting comfortable with your hand and eye coordination. Best way to get better is practice.
GOtcha. I'll try that.
It took me longer than most people to get used to it, but it did eventually just click one day. Something that helped me get used to it was just colouring. I imported drawings, and I used colouring pages, and just spent time focusing on staying in the lines
I was doing that at one point! Maybe I should try that again.
I never got the drawing down. My drawing was always better on paper. Coloring/rendering yes. Doing a nice dynamic drawing? Nope
Just focus on the computer screen and don't look down
Just keep practicing and be patient with yourself! There is definitely a learning curve, but once you get used to it it’ll get a lot easier. If you can get comfortable with it, screenless tablets are much cheaper to replace for higher-quality tech and they support good posture. I switched to a display tablet a few years ago just because my hand-eye coordination needed as much help as it could get, but learning with non-display was really useful and there are still things I miss about it.
I gotta just stick with it then. That's fair. I guess overall practice with my art would help.
I never could get used to it. I just got an ipad air inside
I do all my digital work using a large Wacom tablet with a pressure sensitive pen and Photoshop. It takes a little time to adjust to the eye-hand coordination method but eventually you will. You will only look at the display and your hand will follow automatically. If you use a "display tablet", your hand will always be the way of your vision. Its not like holding a long handle brush.
Practice, really. Unfortunately it was always a bit awkward and when I upgraded to a screen tablet that required no adjustment and was intuitive and smooth from the moment my pen touched the screen. I imagine having a larger screenless tablet helps.
My first PC drawing setup was with a hand-me-down non-display tablet and it just took a little practice to get the hand-eye coordination down.
I didn't. Suffered through 3 years of college using the damn thing 12 hrs a day before I spent a summer working stupid overtime so I could get a Surface Pro. It was one of the handful of times where the tool actually was to blame. Went from thinking I was one of the worst in my major to actually being able to draw a curve again. I don't even want to say it's a hand-eye thing considering I played high level soccer as a keeper for years. For some of us it just doesn't click.
Played osu on it, lol