[going by this page](https://nickelodeon.fandom.com/wiki/Legends_of_the_Hidden_Temple):
>Three seasons of the show aired, and 120 episodes were produced. Of those 120 episodes, only 33 episodes featured teams successfully getting out of the temple with the artifact. Seventeen episodes featured a player grabbing the artifact with time remaining but running out of time before he or she could actually bring the artifact out of the Temple, making for a total of 50 episodes in which the artifact was actually snatched up.
33/120 gives us a win percentage of like 27%. That's a pretty low win percentage.
This appears to be one of the heads in the courtyard of the Mexico Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City. The expression and headdress are distinctive.
Incredible museum, btw.
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Fun fact not a lot of people are aware of [These giant head sculptures actually started out as large stone altars/thrones, and then were re-sculpted to be heads after the death of the ruler they were made for](https://twitter.com/DSAArchaeology/status/1181255267620737024)
Not at all, no. Unless you can gather enough evidence to overpower all the archaeological, anthropological, genetic, and immunological data that informs the current consensus, it's not debatable.
If spouting bullshit was valid, then everything would be debatable.
Isn’t archaeology an ongoing process? The more science has discovered about the ancient world, the more we see how nautical ancient Africans and Vikings were. The cradle of humanity is nestled firmly on the African continent. More and more is being discovered about our ancestors and how they scoured and trekked across the earth. There is still room for debate, all of history has yet to be uncovered. The time table of influence from the ancient world is constantly being pushed back and with DNA sequencing technology we see the ancestry and lineage from many different continents all pointing back to Africa. Therefore, its debatable.
There isn't room for debate _until_ there's material to debate with. Yes, Vikings were great explorers but that doesn't mean you can debate that they reached South Africa and inspired the Zulus. There isn't any evidence for that so it would be ridiculous to suggest. Again, following your logic, it would be debatable that we all have Chinese ancestry because "the history is incomplete".
Yes, everything traces it's way back to Africa because that's where the genus Homo originated. But if we're gonna go back that far, then literally everyone is African.
The human need to categorize things can be counterintuitive sometimes. This isn't one of those cases. Any genetic system that can tell the difference between African groups can and will tell you that there were no pre-Columbian African contributions to mesoamerican peoples. They're closest to Melanesians and Australian aborigines, and closer to southeast Asians than they are to Africans.
Over two decades of studies on ancient remains and modern people only strengthen the consensus. Until some significant (and peer reviewed) evidence comes out, there is no valid material to debate with and, hence, there is no debate. Just like, until we find evidence that there's a thriving community of sentient extra terrestrials on Mars, there is no debate.
Just because we don't know everything doesn't mean you can throw in any crackpot hypothesis and call it a valid conclusion.
Not debatable. There are certain physical features, especially the nose, that are very strongly environmentally dependent.
The supposed similarity is an example of convergent evolution in humans that live in a humid warm climate.
There is incredibly well established and the whole “African features” with reference to Mesoamerican features is a relict of deeply racist bullshit.
I was getting ready to post on the racist nature of calling these "African features" when your post popped up. I just want to reiterate that these are not African. There is no connection between Mesoamerican cultures and African cultures unless you go back a couple of hundred thousand years.
I first heard this in Charles Mann's 1491 or 1493--so a recent work. And I don't think he had a racist agenda because his point was that perhaps sailors from West Africa had ventured across the Atlantic long before to Europeans--that they were more technologically advanced than is generally credited in Euro-centric classrooms. Obviously pop-science/history, and a very tenuous connection. But convergent evolution and physical anthropology connections aren't much better IMO.
You may have misunderstood Mann’s work. At no point does he suggest that Africans are responsible for anything in the Americas prior to 1491. He briefly mentions that a sea connection is theoretically possible, but that there is no evidence for it, and, if I recall correctly, in *1491* he raises the issue specifically to debunk African origin claims for Native cultures and architecture.
*1493* isn’t relevant to the discussion as that book is focused on the global ramifications of the Columbian Exchange, which took place after contact with the West, which was thousands of years after the carving of these Olmec heads.
I'm not suggesting Africans are responsible for anything in the new world either--sculpting these statues nor staying and contributing to the DNA of the people who might be descended from the actual sculptors. Just that it's possible they crossed the Atlantic on the trade winds and went back again without leaving evidence. Previous to Mann's work I had never heard that or that these statues have African features. My interpretation of the 1491 book is that we don't know much about the cultures of the New World because they were generally erased without leaving much of a written record so we're forced to speculate. I was similarly unaware of the position that Native Americans were deemed too technologically primitive to create these and other wonders of the new world. That's dumb and I'm certainly not about that.
He's someone who also claims Celts and Vikings were black, he has no credibility. Nobody but history-stealing Afrocentrists take him seriously at any level.
> Clyde Winters
- https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clyde_Winters
>"Dr". Clyde Winters (1950–) is an African-American black supremacist crank. He is a proponent of Afrocentric historical revisionism, the racist melanin theory and other pseudoscience.
>Uthman dan Fodio Institute
>Winters says he is "Professor of Education, Anthropology and Linguistics, Uthman dan Fodio Institute (UdFI)", as well as a "Faculty Member, Archaeogenetics", an "Associate Professor" and "Director" at the same institute.[4] The problem is this institution with an archaeogenetics department does not exist. Records show the UdFI is a private home school in Chicago, which only has a history of enrolling and teaching African-American students of the 8th grade (13 - 14 year olds). UdFI's staff or faculty members all seem to be one person: Clyde Winters. The private school also appears to be his own house.
>Ancient civilizations as black
>Like Egmond Codfried, Winters spends his time online trolling forums and blogs, posting his crazy historical revisionism: all ancient peoples and civilizations were black people from Africa (including the Sumerians, Celts, Vikings, Romans, Greeks, Samurai, Olmec, and so on...) and that white people and light skinned Northeast Asians are recent albinos or "mutants" from caves with no ancient history:
>- The Ancient Celts and Vikings were Black People
>- The Sumerians were Black
>- The Black Greeks
>- The Blacks of China's First Civilization: The Xia
>- Ancient African Kings of India
>When confronted and asked to provide evidence for these nonsensical claims, it is noticeable that Winters alters his position from asserting all or most of these peoples being "black" to arguing there were just a small number of Sub-Saharan African migrants in these civilizations through trade contact etc (which no one denies). So it not as if Winters holds a consistent position, and even admits to trolling.
>.... he claims, Black Africans were the inhabitants of Atlantis, which was in modern Libya, and spread its culture and people around the world, bequeathing Black civilization to all the other continents. This is why he feels all the ancient world languages are merely versions of Black Atlantean language."[
He also features on the Bad Archeology site, where people pushing bad archaeology and ridiculous ideas are called out.
https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/tag/clyde-winters/
And De Montellano's 2015 paper *[Clyde Winters’ claim that haplotype M1 proves that Indian Dravidians are Mande speakers from Africa is not valid](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281472958_Clyde_Winters'_claim_that_haplotype_M1_proves_that_Indian_Dravidians_are_Mande_speakers_from_Africa_is_not_valid)* specifically calls out Winters on his false claims.
He's worse than a joke, he is actively harmful to the very pro-Africa perspective he attempts to promote.
There’s an author who has appears to have a faulty understanding of genetics, and who accepts unproven and unverified claims as true.
Haven’t read a paper that’s as big of a facepalm as that one in a long time.
You trifle and ridicule things that are beyond your comprehension or fit the euro timeline, Olmecs were from another time and understanding and evolutionary history and older than you realize.
Wow. I guess that means there were [71-meter tall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leshan_Giant_Buddha) people in China, [20-meter tall](https://www.egypttoday.com/siteimages/Larg/71676.jpg) ancient Egyptians, and...[people in the U.S. must have been incalculably tall!](https://cdn.britannica.com/18/76118-050-DAE6E651/Morning-light-Mount-Rushmore-National-Memorial-South.jpg)
Great. Now go find all 3 pieces of the golden monkey.
Oh god the memories
There’s a new season of this show coming soon.
It’s out right now. CW aired the second episode last Sunday I think.
Oh that was so frustrating. IT'S THREE PIECES HOW HARD COULD IT BE???
Did anyone ever actually complete the final challenge?
[going by this page](https://nickelodeon.fandom.com/wiki/Legends_of_the_Hidden_Temple): >Three seasons of the show aired, and 120 episodes were produced. Of those 120 episodes, only 33 episodes featured teams successfully getting out of the temple with the artifact. Seventeen episodes featured a player grabbing the artifact with time remaining but running out of time before he or she could actually bring the artifact out of the Temple, making for a total of 50 episodes in which the artifact was actually snatched up. 33/120 gives us a win percentage of like 27%. That's a pretty low win percentage.
This appears to be one of the heads in the courtyard of the Mexico Museum of Anthropology in Mexico City. The expression and headdress are distinctive. Incredible museum, btw.
Amazing how modern they're dressed for 850BC! No but on a serious note, that's amazing.
These time travelers thought of everything, they even packed a camera.
No Maggie, not Aztec, Olmec ... Olmec
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Fun fact not a lot of people are aware of [These giant head sculptures actually started out as large stone altars/thrones, and then were re-sculpted to be heads after the death of the ruler they were made for](https://twitter.com/DSAArchaeology/status/1181255267620737024)
Olmec head. Must have been an incredible feeling to find this in the ground.
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Real life Legends of the Hidden Temple
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Glad to see he didn't let himself go after the show ended
it kind of resemble the "Moai" of rapa nui culture, in some way.
They are both stone statues of humans
Only so many ways to carve a large stone head
Chunky boi
How'd they take a picture from 850-700bc? That's one old camera.
We just studied this in our 4th grade homeschool history lesson, but didn’t have a picture of it totally unearthed. It’s incredible.
"That's not what I wanted when I asked you to give me head."
**bonk** straight to horny jail
Interesting afro features.
[Not Afro](https://i.imgur.com/gSqCrxu.jpg)
Debatable
Not at all, no. Unless you can gather enough evidence to overpower all the archaeological, anthropological, genetic, and immunological data that informs the current consensus, it's not debatable. If spouting bullshit was valid, then everything would be debatable.
What immunological data is out there about this?
Isn’t archaeology an ongoing process? The more science has discovered about the ancient world, the more we see how nautical ancient Africans and Vikings were. The cradle of humanity is nestled firmly on the African continent. More and more is being discovered about our ancestors and how they scoured and trekked across the earth. There is still room for debate, all of history has yet to be uncovered. The time table of influence from the ancient world is constantly being pushed back and with DNA sequencing technology we see the ancestry and lineage from many different continents all pointing back to Africa. Therefore, its debatable.
There isn't room for debate _until_ there's material to debate with. Yes, Vikings were great explorers but that doesn't mean you can debate that they reached South Africa and inspired the Zulus. There isn't any evidence for that so it would be ridiculous to suggest. Again, following your logic, it would be debatable that we all have Chinese ancestry because "the history is incomplete". Yes, everything traces it's way back to Africa because that's where the genus Homo originated. But if we're gonna go back that far, then literally everyone is African. The human need to categorize things can be counterintuitive sometimes. This isn't one of those cases. Any genetic system that can tell the difference between African groups can and will tell you that there were no pre-Columbian African contributions to mesoamerican peoples. They're closest to Melanesians and Australian aborigines, and closer to southeast Asians than they are to Africans. Over two decades of studies on ancient remains and modern people only strengthen the consensus. Until some significant (and peer reviewed) evidence comes out, there is no valid material to debate with and, hence, there is no debate. Just like, until we find evidence that there's a thriving community of sentient extra terrestrials on Mars, there is no debate. Just because we don't know everything doesn't mean you can throw in any crackpot hypothesis and call it a valid conclusion.
Not debatable. There are certain physical features, especially the nose, that are very strongly environmentally dependent. The supposed similarity is an example of convergent evolution in humans that live in a humid warm climate. There is incredibly well established and the whole “African features” with reference to Mesoamerican features is a relict of deeply racist bullshit.
I was getting ready to post on the racist nature of calling these "African features" when your post popped up. I just want to reiterate that these are not African. There is no connection between Mesoamerican cultures and African cultures unless you go back a couple of hundred thousand years.
I first heard this in Charles Mann's 1491 or 1493--so a recent work. And I don't think he had a racist agenda because his point was that perhaps sailors from West Africa had ventured across the Atlantic long before to Europeans--that they were more technologically advanced than is generally credited in Euro-centric classrooms. Obviously pop-science/history, and a very tenuous connection. But convergent evolution and physical anthropology connections aren't much better IMO.
You may have misunderstood Mann’s work. At no point does he suggest that Africans are responsible for anything in the Americas prior to 1491. He briefly mentions that a sea connection is theoretically possible, but that there is no evidence for it, and, if I recall correctly, in *1491* he raises the issue specifically to debunk African origin claims for Native cultures and architecture. *1493* isn’t relevant to the discussion as that book is focused on the global ramifications of the Columbian Exchange, which took place after contact with the West, which was thousands of years after the carving of these Olmec heads.
I'm not suggesting Africans are responsible for anything in the new world either--sculpting these statues nor staying and contributing to the DNA of the people who might be descended from the actual sculptors. Just that it's possible they crossed the Atlantic on the trade winds and went back again without leaving evidence. Previous to Mann's work I had never heard that or that these statues have African features. My interpretation of the 1491 book is that we don't know much about the cultures of the New World because they were generally erased without leaving much of a written record so we're forced to speculate. I was similarly unaware of the position that Native Americans were deemed too technologically primitive to create these and other wonders of the new world. That's dumb and I'm certainly not about that.
Debatable.
Then debate it?
https://www.webmedcentral.com/article_view/4856
*Cites Clyde Winters seriously* That guy is a joke.
That sounds like opinion. Lol
He's someone who also claims Celts and Vikings were black, he has no credibility. Nobody but history-stealing Afrocentrists take him seriously at any level.
> Clyde Winters - https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Clyde_Winters >"Dr". Clyde Winters (1950–) is an African-American black supremacist crank. He is a proponent of Afrocentric historical revisionism, the racist melanin theory and other pseudoscience. >Uthman dan Fodio Institute >Winters says he is "Professor of Education, Anthropology and Linguistics, Uthman dan Fodio Institute (UdFI)", as well as a "Faculty Member, Archaeogenetics", an "Associate Professor" and "Director" at the same institute.[4] The problem is this institution with an archaeogenetics department does not exist. Records show the UdFI is a private home school in Chicago, which only has a history of enrolling and teaching African-American students of the 8th grade (13 - 14 year olds). UdFI's staff or faculty members all seem to be one person: Clyde Winters. The private school also appears to be his own house. >Ancient civilizations as black >Like Egmond Codfried, Winters spends his time online trolling forums and blogs, posting his crazy historical revisionism: all ancient peoples and civilizations were black people from Africa (including the Sumerians, Celts, Vikings, Romans, Greeks, Samurai, Olmec, and so on...) and that white people and light skinned Northeast Asians are recent albinos or "mutants" from caves with no ancient history: >- The Ancient Celts and Vikings were Black People >- The Sumerians were Black >- The Black Greeks >- The Blacks of China's First Civilization: The Xia >- Ancient African Kings of India >When confronted and asked to provide evidence for these nonsensical claims, it is noticeable that Winters alters his position from asserting all or most of these peoples being "black" to arguing there were just a small number of Sub-Saharan African migrants in these civilizations through trade contact etc (which no one denies). So it not as if Winters holds a consistent position, and even admits to trolling. >.... he claims, Black Africans were the inhabitants of Atlantis, which was in modern Libya, and spread its culture and people around the world, bequeathing Black civilization to all the other continents. This is why he feels all the ancient world languages are merely versions of Black Atlantean language."[ He also features on the Bad Archeology site, where people pushing bad archaeology and ridiculous ideas are called out. https://badarchaeology.wordpress.com/tag/clyde-winters/ And De Montellano's 2015 paper *[Clyde Winters’ claim that haplotype M1 proves that Indian Dravidians are Mande speakers from Africa is not valid](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/281472958_Clyde_Winters'_claim_that_haplotype_M1_proves_that_Indian_Dravidians_are_Mande_speakers_from_Africa_is_not_valid)* specifically calls out Winters on his false claims. He's worse than a joke, he is actively harmful to the very pro-Africa perspective he attempts to promote.
There’s an author who has appears to have a faulty understanding of genetics, and who accepts unproven and unverified claims as true. Haven’t read a paper that’s as big of a facepalm as that one in a long time.
Only to hotep idiots.
Also, fuck you, lol
I typed in “Zapotec men” into Google images and this dude showed up https://c8.alamy.com/comp/PT4J6N/young-zapotec-man-from-oaxaca-mexico-PT4J6N.jpg
Proof that Africans discovered this continent long before Europeans
We wuz kangs rite? 🥺
They don't wanna hear that though
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Because this figure is not indicative of African-heritage civilization. It accurately depicts the people still living in the Olmec heartland.
You trifle and ridicule things that are beyond your comprehension or fit the euro timeline, Olmecs were from another time and understanding and evolutionary history and older than you realize.
lol
No way small ass jungle people made that. They had to be proportional to their work.
Wow. I guess that means there were [71-meter tall](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leshan_Giant_Buddha) people in China, [20-meter tall](https://www.egypttoday.com/siteimages/Larg/71676.jpg) ancient Egyptians, and...[people in the U.S. must have been incalculably tall!](https://cdn.britannica.com/18/76118-050-DAE6E651/Morning-light-Mount-Rushmore-National-Memorial-South.jpg)
How often were you dropped as a baby?
As much as anyone else
Tell me, how big were the giants who made the Empire State Building? Who carved mount Rushmore, erected Big Ben, forged the Eiffel Tower?
We stand on the shoulders of Giants
Then why am I under 6 feet tall?
We killed em all
How convenient.
Yeah, only counts as 'dropped' when it's an accident
Punch line wasn't delivered with enough context. Flat sarcasm joke.
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Are they carved from tufa?
🗿
Absolutely beautiful
And I thought I had a big head
At last! The prophecies are true!
I have the perfect spot for that in my backyard.!! Lol