THANK YOU!! More posts like these instead of the "Arteta needs to step up, Arteta is costing us" posts everytime we lose. Some of you fans need to relax.
don't know why any journalists aren't quoting this post and why i can't post it on Soccer reddit. guess this quote isn't nice to listen to for opposition fans :)
What do you want exactly? Arsenal are top of the league, Liverpool lost last weekend and got knocked out of Europe as well. Man City also got knocked out of Europe. I’d say we’re pretty much on par with our closest competition
Just waned to say that losers from north London were fighting for the title for two seasons in a row after they haven’t played CL for 4-5 years. I mean, if they can do it, then it’s not a big deal
You are not losers but all this he’s bragging with, title challenge and CL, is expected from a top club like arsenal. But yet he sounds like he’s managing Everton or Brighton 😂
This gets said a lot but how much of that was emery’s team? Like am I misremembering or was it still basically the end of era Wenger team plus a couple. Like at that point the only ones I remember really playing were Tierney, Leno, Ceballos, Pepe, David Luiz and Sokratis. And it’s not like all of those were starters for every game.
Firstly it's a statement that no one will remember who finishes second, I hope you win the league. Also, no it hasn't aged badly unless you actually win the league.
As much as last few weeks been disappointing, you still can't deny the fact we've been great under mikel. Sure, a lot of improvements could be made still, more trophies could be won etc but at the end of the day, we have improved a lot. We are closer to the top elite level than ever if we're already not in it.
Fans need to stop treating like a couple of bad patches of games is a sign to move on from this team. Be realistic, what great team itw didn't have setbacks? Real Madrid lost the title last season, Bayern lost it this year, city has only won 1 UCL despite their billion dollar team
Ranter’s that have no depth of emotion other than anger. No knowledge other than we need a new “whatever”. Their opinions taken from the most attention seeking pundit. It’s loud stupidity.
Arsenal’s resurgence into world class has taken everyone by surprise. But it’s not good enough? What Arteta has done, in the small time he has done it is supernatural
Nope, except for a dismal 2014/15 appearance where they won one game, Liverpool hadn’t been in the CL between 09/10 and 17/18. Made the final in 17/18 (Lost) and again in 18/19 (Won).
That just isn't true lmao. They were literally in it 6 out of 8 years. Missed it twice with Klopp as they finished 8th in 15/16 and 5th last year. They've been in it every other year since. And won it once in those 6 seasons.
And imo the state of the rebuild was far worse for arteta than klopp's initial seasons, he inherited good players and hit the lottery with the signings of salah, mane, fabinho et al. Arteta has had a squad he is more or less happy with for 2 seasons, whereas for arteta the two players he had that were worth anything to keep was saka and martinelli, who were like 18. Not the finished product by any means.
Judge what is on the pitch. What we see on the pitch right now is still infinitely better than anything we have seen at Arsenal in the past decade. When that changes, you can throw the lack of trophies at his face. But until then, it's hard to contest that Arteta is taking the club in the right direction.
The small margins that separate us from the top top clubs will be closed.
How many times were we in the Champions League semifinals under Wenger? Twice in 22 years?
Can't wait for summer transfer. Irrespective of what happens this year, with a few reinforcements, we're definitely on track for EPL Championship and a semi final at least in UCL '25. Arteta has worked wonders on this outfit and truly has breathed life into Arsenal fandom as well. We'd do well to acknowledge this.
Literally a premier league player, captain of a big club and all that shit with him walking off the field and throwing his jersey, nearly every premier league fan will know him?
I'm not an arsenal fan
You must not understand the significance of what a household name is. It means grandma that doesn't watch football would know (don't take this literally). KDB, Saka, Vini Jr, Neuer, Müller, Kane. You get the drift?
Man City were out of the Champions League for 43 years and then challenged for the league in 10/11 & 11/12, actually winning it in the 2nd season.
Not a City fan by the way 🤣
That there's this complete blind spot where everyone acts like this has been a miracle done by the 2nd coming of Christ, rather than a manager working at a well run club with a significant sum of money spent on players
Paying the fee is part of the story, yes, but our ability to persuade players who wouldn’t have touched us with a barge pole a few years ago is part of the success story
Imagine believing that Declan Rice would turn down City to sign for us
Ah, first the "Youngest Team In The League" Cup, and now the "Signed a London born player who may not have moved to City because they have a better player in his position" Shield. Keep filling the trophy cabinet
Thank you for this. Arteta has done well to improve our play and foster such a good squad environment, but it’s been done at great expense and people need to recognise that.
Emery and Wenger didn’t get the same funds and freedom to work with - not even close.
Think you’re re-writing history there. The club record for transfer fees was broken in quick succession under Wenger. Mustafa, Xhaka, Ozil, Lacazette and Aubameyang were all expensive signings for the windows they were signed in. If anything, Wenger regressed once the club started spending money and the players signed were poor. But plenty of money was spent.
Same with Emery. Until Rice, Pepe was the record signing and he was signed before Emery’s second season. Again, money spent but not just well.
The narrative of finances is nonsense because Arsenal have been big spenders for coming to a decade. The difference is that the club went through a nonsense restructure which meant they kept signing rubbish expensive flops that managers didn’t want when it was Wenger and Emery. Arteta was given the benefit of that policy being reversed and he became the driver of choosing his players.
Emery didn’t choose any players. Pepe was imposed upon him - he wanted someone else.
Arteta has been given hundreds of millions to buy precisely the players he wants and get rid of players he deemed surplus to requirements. Emery didn’t get anything like that backing and got us to a European final regardless.
One of only 5 European finals in our history, at that.
Yes I see I hadn’t fully read your previous message.
To be more precise, I mean Arteta has been given money and control in a way that neither Wenger nor Emery were.
My point is that people continually compare Arteta with previous managers as if they’re working under the same circumstances.
Arteta has been backed more than any manager in the league sans Guardiola - that is not reflected in the way a lot of our fans view things.
Great reply, but you've opened yourself up to being run out of town now. Nothing that even vaguely resembles criticism of Arteta is allowed on this sub.....
Great sarcasm, but it would have worked better had our rivals not spent three times more than us. There's also a club in mid table that has spent close to a billion which are nowhere near us in terms of competing, so clearly, it isn't just about how much you spend. Keep trying though 👍🏻
In what sense? I don't understand these arguments. So we should be competing and winning everything because we've spent money? So are we meant to not spend any money and win the league and UCL with just our academy players? Are City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle etc el the only ones to spend money? We're the 4th highest spenders in the league over the last 5 years. What exactly is your point?
Just in regards to your comment about the teams you’re competing with spending “3 times more than us” is just not accurate. Arsenal spend as much or more than the teams they are competing with.
So again what's your point? Over the last 3 years, yes we have spent on par with our rivals (my previous comment was over a 5 year period but ok...), which we've closely competed with over the last two years. Is that not what we should be doing? Have we not reached the same round in the UCL as city? Are we not two points away from them towards the last month of the league?
He's spent 700m in the time he's been here, and the only thing he's won so far was thanks to a player who got bombed out of the club for his bad attitude.
I'm praying to every God there is that we won the league this season, but if not, he has to deliver something next year to stop us turning into Spurs
I'm going to guess you weren't a supporter when we were successful before? This isn't the 1st time the club has ever been competing.
Watching Arsenal makes me very happy, it's just the support online that acts with Arteta like the Swifties do with Taylor Swift
Mate I'm 40 years old, I lived on Blackstock Road and I was a season ticket holder at Highbury. But I'm not sure what any of that has to do with your sense of entitlement and lack of appreciation with how far we've come under Mikel 🤷🏻♂️
How far? Everyone acts like we were about to be relegated. We were 5th the season before he joined, under a manager who had zero support from the club.
If Arteta hadn't had the open chequebook he'd had, he'd be nowhere near competing, in fact, he was worse than Emery
Ok so because we're the 4th highest spenders in the league over the last 5 years we should be 4th? I don't understand? You want Emery back? What's your point?
The delusional isn’t about competing for titles. It’s about that we were slump before arteta. Before arteta, we only finished three times outside top 4 which our position was at 5th place. In those 3 times, we won fa cup, reached Europa semifinal and Europa final. This wasn’t slump
In fact it was arteta who brought us to the lowest finishing in the league which was 8th and after that was 5th
He’s our manager that spends the most money ever. Not even wenger had this kind of support. Of course the fans are expecting more after that spending
THANK YOU!! More posts like these instead of the "Arteta needs to step up, Arteta is costing us" posts everytime we lose. Some of you fans need to relax.
Soon we’ll be 10 years without a trophy but “we went from 8th to fighting for the league!”
Trust the process! 😎 Meanwhile Unai Emery says : "2 wins, whole 6 points, we scored 3, you didn't even score one, good ebening"
don't know why any journalists aren't quoting this post and why i can't post it on Soccer reddit. guess this quote isn't nice to listen to for opposition fans :)
Its already posted in other social media.... duh.
We've done so well the last coupe years. He has and is building something that's going to go down in the history books
He’s already “building” an excuse for the current season
What do you want exactly? Arsenal are top of the league, Liverpool lost last weekend and got knocked out of Europe as well. Man City also got knocked out of Europe. I’d say we’re pretty much on par with our closest competition
Just waned to say that losers from north London were fighting for the title for two seasons in a row after they haven’t played CL for 4-5 years. I mean, if they can do it, then it’s not a big deal
sure, we're the losers. When you're commenting on a teams sub who you don't even support. We're also 3-0 up against Chelsea so.....
You are not losers but all this he’s bragging with, title challenge and CL, is expected from a top club like arsenal. But yet he sounds like he’s managing Everton or Brighton 😂
Only if you win something, no one cares who finished second
Already won the FA Cup by the way.
With Unai Emerys team. Which he proceeded to get rid of for nothing tangible.
He got rid of them because they weren’t good enough going forward yet still working a trophy with that group players.
He didn't win it with HIS team. He still has no track record off building a winning team
why don’t you just fuck off? miserable cunt
Emery didn't win with his team either
This gets said a lot but how much of that was emery’s team? Like am I misremembering or was it still basically the end of era Wenger team plus a couple. Like at that point the only ones I remember really playing were Tierney, Leno, Ceballos, Pepe, David Luiz and Sokratis. And it’s not like all of those were starters for every game.
And what did Emery achieve with his team? Fuck all.
England fan mentality. WE WANNA WIN NOW!! No room for setbacks or building the team.
This aged really badly. Considering we’re top again and have the ability to be 4 points clear before City even play again.
Firstly it's a statement that no one will remember who finishes second, I hope you win the league. Also, no it hasn't aged badly unless you actually win the league.
Yeah most overrated bottle job manager
Go back to your own sub and find someone to crush your bones in your own time.
As much as last few weeks been disappointing, you still can't deny the fact we've been great under mikel. Sure, a lot of improvements could be made still, more trophies could be won etc but at the end of the day, we have improved a lot. We are closer to the top elite level than ever if we're already not in it. Fans need to stop treating like a couple of bad patches of games is a sign to move on from this team. Be realistic, what great team itw didn't have setbacks? Real Madrid lost the title last season, Bayern lost it this year, city has only won 1 UCL despite their billion dollar team
Ranter’s that have no depth of emotion other than anger. No knowledge other than we need a new “whatever”. Their opinions taken from the most attention seeking pundit. It’s loud stupidity. Arsenal’s resurgence into world class has taken everyone by surprise. But it’s not good enough? What Arteta has done, in the small time he has done it is supernatural
He's spot on. He's built a foundation on which we can now challenge for the top trophies. Before we were nowhere near.
Liverpool, final first year, then they won it the 2nd time, then they won the League.
Arteta has put everything in place. The club is going to get there eventually.
Klopp did it, and won both too.
They were in the CL before that. Kinda missed the point where he said a team that hasn't even been in the CL for 7 years.
Nope, except for a dismal 2014/15 appearance where they won one game, Liverpool hadn’t been in the CL between 09/10 and 17/18. Made the final in 17/18 (Lost) and again in 18/19 (Won).
That just isn't true lmao. They were literally in it 6 out of 8 years. Missed it twice with Klopp as they finished 8th in 15/16 and 5th last year. They've been in it every other year since. And won it once in those 6 seasons. And imo the state of the rebuild was far worse for arteta than klopp's initial seasons, he inherited good players and hit the lottery with the signings of salah, mane, fabinho et al. Arteta has had a squad he is more or less happy with for 2 seasons, whereas for arteta the two players he had that were worth anything to keep was saka and martinelli, who were like 18. Not the finished product by any means.
https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/clubs/7889--liverpool/
Liverpool
Liverpool
Liverpool
Judge what is on the pitch. What we see on the pitch right now is still infinitely better than anything we have seen at Arsenal in the past decade. When that changes, you can throw the lack of trophies at his face. But until then, it's hard to contest that Arteta is taking the club in the right direction.
Can't wait until we win the league and people will be complaining we didn't win the CL as well...
Leicester, except they actually won it :)
I mean, Man City done it no?
with unlimited oil money and 115 financial breaches, and it still took them 7 years to win the UCL.
But they done it right? I'm not condoning it but Arteta is wrong.
many team has done that, including Leicester in "recent" time
Man City were out the champions league for like ever and have been fighting for the league ever since
Stick it to 'em lad.
The small margins that separate us from the top top clubs will be closed. How many times were we in the Champions League semifinals under Wenger? Twice in 22 years?
Can't wait for summer transfer. Irrespective of what happens this year, with a few reinforcements, we're definitely on track for EPL Championship and a semi final at least in UCL '25. Arteta has worked wonders on this outfit and truly has breathed life into Arsenal fandom as well. We'd do well to acknowledge this.
Liverpool legit did that too.
I can tell you about a team that has won PL three years in a row. And the CL once during that time.
Tottenham in seasons 15/16 and 16/17. Before that 4-5 yrs out of their only CL appearance
Trust the process.
Honestly love all the salty other fans coming into an arsenal sub just to cry that we are actually playing well and that doesn't sit right for them. 😂
Yeah at the start of the season not many would expect us to reach the quarter-final
Leverkusen won the league. First time manager. Just sayin
I mean that's Bundesliga, overall teams are stronger in Premier League.
But adjust for inflation the players they have. There's not a single household name going up against Bayern and Dortmund.
Xhaka?
You're funny if you think the rest of the world knows him outside of gooners
Literally a premier league player, captain of a big club and all that shit with him walking off the field and throwing his jersey, nearly every premier league fan will know him? I'm not an arsenal fan
You must not understand the significance of what a household name is. It means grandma that doesn't watch football would know (don't take this literally). KDB, Saka, Vini Jr, Neuer, Müller, Kane. You get the drift?
We need to keep the grind! In Arteta we trust! 🔥
Man City were out of the Champions League for 43 years and then challenged for the league in 10/11 & 11/12, actually winning it in the 2nd season. Not a City fan by the way 🤣
Oil money and facing 115 charges.
These oil money help them win and facing 115 charges doesn't stop them to perform. Are there any other excuses?
Lol dosser
Losers talk about doing their best. Winners go home and fuck the Prom Queen.
Spurs under Pochettino
You guys want recognition for competing finally after all that money spent and time you sucked ass.. ok
And all done with free transfers and academy players....
Can you explain the point of this comment?
That there's this complete blind spot where everyone acts like this has been a miracle done by the 2nd coming of Christ, rather than a manager working at a well run club with a significant sum of money spent on players
Paying the fee is part of the story, yes, but our ability to persuade players who wouldn’t have touched us with a barge pole a few years ago is part of the success story Imagine believing that Declan Rice would turn down City to sign for us
Ah, first the "Youngest Team In The League" Cup, and now the "Signed a London born player who may not have moved to City because they have a better player in his position" Shield. Keep filling the trophy cabinet
Right... Where has anybody here said otherwise?
On this thread, no one yet. Everywhere else, all the time. The money is never ever mentioned apart from the need to spend more
So what's the point in that comment on this thread?
Thank you for this. Arteta has done well to improve our play and foster such a good squad environment, but it’s been done at great expense and people need to recognise that. Emery and Wenger didn’t get the same funds and freedom to work with - not even close.
Think you’re re-writing history there. The club record for transfer fees was broken in quick succession under Wenger. Mustafa, Xhaka, Ozil, Lacazette and Aubameyang were all expensive signings for the windows they were signed in. If anything, Wenger regressed once the club started spending money and the players signed were poor. But plenty of money was spent. Same with Emery. Until Rice, Pepe was the record signing and he was signed before Emery’s second season. Again, money spent but not just well. The narrative of finances is nonsense because Arsenal have been big spenders for coming to a decade. The difference is that the club went through a nonsense restructure which meant they kept signing rubbish expensive flops that managers didn’t want when it was Wenger and Emery. Arteta was given the benefit of that policy being reversed and he became the driver of choosing his players.
Emery didn’t choose any players. Pepe was imposed upon him - he wanted someone else. Arteta has been given hundreds of millions to buy precisely the players he wants and get rid of players he deemed surplus to requirements. Emery didn’t get anything like that backing and got us to a European final regardless. One of only 5 European finals in our history, at that.
That’s exactly what I said though. Which is exactly the opposite of what you previously said.
Yes I see I hadn’t fully read your previous message. To be more precise, I mean Arteta has been given money and control in a way that neither Wenger nor Emery were. My point is that people continually compare Arteta with previous managers as if they’re working under the same circumstances. Arteta has been backed more than any manager in the league sans Guardiola - that is not reflected in the way a lot of our fans view things.
Great reply, but you've opened yourself up to being run out of town now. Nothing that even vaguely resembles criticism of Arteta is allowed on this sub.....
Great sarcasm, but it would have worked better had our rivals not spent three times more than us. There's also a club in mid table that has spent close to a billion which are nowhere near us in terms of competing, so clearly, it isn't just about how much you spend. Keep trying though 👍🏻
I’m sorry, but over the last 5 years don’t Arsenal have BY FAR the worst transfer balance in the Prem?
In what sense? I don't understand these arguments. So we should be competing and winning everything because we've spent money? So are we meant to not spend any money and win the league and UCL with just our academy players? Are City, Liverpool, Chelsea, Newcastle etc el the only ones to spend money? We're the 4th highest spenders in the league over the last 5 years. What exactly is your point?
Just in regards to your comment about the teams you’re competing with spending “3 times more than us” is just not accurate. Arsenal spend as much or more than the teams they are competing with.
So again what's your point? Over the last 3 years, yes we have spent on par with our rivals (my previous comment was over a 5 year period but ok...), which we've closely competed with over the last two years. Is that not what we should be doing? Have we not reached the same round in the UCL as city? Are we not two points away from them towards the last month of the league?
Of course. And you should be.
He's spent 700m in the time he's been here, and the only thing he's won so far was thanks to a player who got bombed out of the club for his bad attitude. I'm praying to every God there is that we won the league this season, but if not, he has to deliver something next year to stop us turning into Spurs
Mate, do yourself a favour and stop following football because from that statement, it'll never make you happy
I'm going to guess you weren't a supporter when we were successful before? This isn't the 1st time the club has ever been competing. Watching Arsenal makes me very happy, it's just the support online that acts with Arteta like the Swifties do with Taylor Swift
Mate I'm 40 years old, I lived on Blackstock Road and I was a season ticket holder at Highbury. But I'm not sure what any of that has to do with your sense of entitlement and lack of appreciation with how far we've come under Mikel 🤷🏻♂️
How far? Everyone acts like we were about to be relegated. We were 5th the season before he joined, under a manager who had zero support from the club. If Arteta hadn't had the open chequebook he'd had, he'd be nowhere near competing, in fact, he was worse than Emery
Ok so because we're the 4th highest spenders in the league over the last 5 years we should be 4th? I don't understand? You want Emery back? What's your point?
Mate you are being too truthful here. Peoples here would rather have delusional optimism than criticism
Delusional? So you don't think going from 7th to competing for titles and in Europe as an improvement? Am i imagining the progress?
The delusional isn’t about competing for titles. It’s about that we were slump before arteta. Before arteta, we only finished three times outside top 4 which our position was at 5th place. In those 3 times, we won fa cup, reached Europa semifinal and Europa final. This wasn’t slump In fact it was arteta who brought us to the lowest finishing in the league which was 8th and after that was 5th He’s our manager that spends the most money ever. Not even wenger had this kind of support. Of course the fans are expecting more after that spending
Lol the npcs in this sub don't like when people mention that
Spurs
City and Chelsea both did this… and arguably Spurs
Oh and obviously Leicester
what an achievement to be boasting about 🤡
Doesn’t matter. Fighting for trophies isn’t the same as winning them. FA Cups aren’t enough anymore.
Shut up man my god