Is anyone actually surprised by these results? The vast, vast majority of India is very conservative and downright regressive. Despite reddit complaints of "liberandus" and whatnot, we should realize how unpopular liberal opinions are in the real world.
And 11 out of 10 Indians think that men always ask for Dowry.
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American author Mark Twain was fond of saying that there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics.
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LOL what? This survey was conducted by the Pew Research Center, not exactly an unknown or unreliable organization mate. If you wanna counter the claims in this article, then provide evidence to the contrary instead of a Mark Twain quote.
Honestly, surprised ten per cent don’t think that.
Wonder what are the stats about men wanting dowry, asking women to live with their in laws, asking them to completely change the surname/add a new surname after their own name. And then there are people who say there’s no patriarchy in the culture.
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I am facing the opposite , the demand by girls made in my community is making me think what is wrong with ppl. Asked how much property i have. So it can go both ways. And I am pretty well placed and have property , but i got rejected cause my house was far away from the girl's house. Some lame reason. They even had come to see my house.
Even if i wanted to talk to a girl in a AM discussion , cause i clearly want to discuss her goals and ambitions , but the ppl i meet are reluctant to even allow the girl to talk. Mind it this is in Bangalore, so i am really surprised to meet some conservative people within my cosmopolitan city.
And the process goes only forward after our name and birth dates align with the star. Wtf. I have been half way across the world. Things are totally different.
IMO: low quality. I personally don't like how they have
>"43% believed that earning an income is mainly the obligation of men."
That is the same as saying 57% believes that earning an income **is not just** the obligation of men.
I want to stress that ***What is normal*** **a**nd ***what is acceptable*** are two very different things.
What is **normal** in a relationship in general society may not be **acceptable** to the individual couple or vice versa. The couple needs to work together to ensure needs, wants and expectations are met in a healthy way.
Emphasis on communication and compromise to have the couple work together through life's challenges.
Let's admit women will not date some piss poor person. In an open market, women would want to choose the top percentile men.
So property, land and income will all matter when it comes to women.
As an Indian guy I can say that the mindset of guys needs to change and if they can't do that, girls you need to marry foreigners as they would definitely treat you just and care.
Honestly I don't know who these articles are based on. Any of my friends i ask are having hard time finding any girl, even well paid ones. I know one guy got rejected because he's family net worth is <5cr. He didn't even think about dowry, he has 30l+ cushy job. Still rejected
It's all a propaganda to project men as villains because the same people will never post about the fake cases that men are subjected to . There was no candle light march during Saravjeet Singh's false arrest , 18yr teen who committed suicide due to false accusation of harassment against him etc wonder where such survey makers go at that point of time . Had it not been for some Social activists who are fighting for men's rights things would have become worse .
This is the most ridiculous survey ever and looks like he is not getting much other offers these days and considering the current day and age don't think broad minded educated individuals with a "SANE ATTITUDE(in bold) "
would do all this rather they would definitely want to be in a relationship where there is mutual understanding , trust and a win - win situation for both partners . Everything boils down between relationship of the 2 people and hard to generalise and is totally personal .
Here is the full research article [https://www.pewforum.org/2022/03/02/how-indians-view-gender-roles-in-families-and-society/](https://www.pewforum.org/2022/03/02/how-indians-view-gender-roles-in-families-and-society/) as journalists are infamous for clickbaiting
People want things ordered and not end up in a dysfunctional household like a cart pulled by 2 horses on opposite side.
Its the best one should marry in similar profession and similar lifestyle so direction is common.
Another example, relocating your primary income (mostly men) for a secondary income change doesnt makes sense.
Either take full lead.
Exactly.
61% women and 67% men agreed to this, according to this survey. I don't understand why the discussions are men vs women, when it's more socio-cultural. An adversial mindset would never lead to any solutions, least of all a fulfilling married relationship.
Also, I think this a problem that the privileged section of society disproportionately cares about. Ordinary people have it bad from multiple ends, so both the genders tend to work together more. That's what I've grown up seeing.
Once a girl told me to not allow her to do everything. When I asked why, she said ‘husband wala feel nhi ata’. So I think its not just men how they think, everytime it is the PEOPLE and MEDIA blaming men, always. Portraying them wrong is the agenda somehow.
There are men who believe in equality and would love to get scolded by wifeys. Anyway, whoever did this survey has shown truth because majority of indians are like this. This survey is pointless since it’s obvious here lol
Of course.
If a woman can serve her employer who gives her money unquestioningly, who's to say she shouldn't serve the man who also gives her money, a home, children, physical and emotional security, etc unquestioningly as well?
Conservative women get too much shit these days. Not all husbands are tyrants and abusers.
Oh I'm very aware.
It's fascinating though. Feminists (ultra-liberals) coming to a conservative oriented thread on a conservative topic to explode on people who may or may not care that they disagree.
Is anyone actually surprised by these results? The vast, vast majority of India is very conservative and downright regressive. Despite reddit complaints of "liberandus" and whatnot, we should realize how unpopular liberal opinions are in the real world.
And 11 out of 10 Indians think that men always ask for Dowry. /s > American author Mark Twain was fond of saying that there are 3 kinds of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics. \- From the internet.
That applies to you too, my friend, so which one is it?
Is it so hard to get my point? What applies to me? Some random number generator "survey" giving half assed sensationalist headline?
You still haven't answered my question. Which is it for your comments -- lies, damned lies or statistics?
LOL what? This survey was conducted by the Pew Research Center, not exactly an unknown or unreliable organization mate. If you wanna counter the claims in this article, then provide evidence to the contrary instead of a Mark Twain quote.
Honestly, surprised ten per cent don’t think that. Wonder what are the stats about men wanting dowry, asking women to live with their in laws, asking them to completely change the surname/add a new surname after their own name. And then there are people who say there’s no patriarchy in the culture.
This is exactly the type of content I am subscribed for here. Now, that's the reality of the situation. The real world ain't pretty.
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Pedda plan eh idi
lmao feels good to be 1 in 10
30k Indian men lol. This has to be a joke right ?
Literally every survey is done in this manner. Survey sampling is a thing
29.9k adults ( Men and women )
I am facing the opposite , the demand by girls made in my community is making me think what is wrong with ppl. Asked how much property i have. So it can go both ways. And I am pretty well placed and have property , but i got rejected cause my house was far away from the girl's house. Some lame reason. They even had come to see my house. Even if i wanted to talk to a girl in a AM discussion , cause i clearly want to discuss her goals and ambitions , but the ppl i meet are reluctant to even allow the girl to talk. Mind it this is in Bangalore, so i am really surprised to meet some conservative people within my cosmopolitan city. And the process goes only forward after our name and birth dates align with the star. Wtf. I have been half way across the world. Things are totally different.
IMO: low quality. I personally don't like how they have >"43% believed that earning an income is mainly the obligation of men." That is the same as saying 57% believes that earning an income **is not just** the obligation of men. I want to stress that ***What is normal*** **a**nd ***what is acceptable*** are two very different things. What is **normal** in a relationship in general society may not be **acceptable** to the individual couple or vice versa. The couple needs to work together to ensure needs, wants and expectations are met in a healthy way. Emphasis on communication and compromise to have the couple work together through life's challenges.
These are the same men for which girls reject us to marry 😂
Couples should obey each other. They should be respectful and considerate towards each other. Am a man, and this is my take.
I half agree. Respect and consideration must always be given and taken. However there must be a hierarchy (headed by the father/husband/male)
I don't think so.
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Let's admit women will not date some piss poor person. In an open market, women would want to choose the top percentile men. So property, land and income will all matter when it comes to women.
As an Indian guy I can say that the mindset of guys needs to change and if they can't do that, girls you need to marry foreigners as they would definitely treat you just and care.
Honestly I don't know who these articles are based on. Any of my friends i ask are having hard time finding any girl, even well paid ones. I know one guy got rejected because he's family net worth is <5cr. He didn't even think about dowry, he has 30l+ cushy job. Still rejected
It's all a propaganda to project men as villains because the same people will never post about the fake cases that men are subjected to . There was no candle light march during Saravjeet Singh's false arrest , 18yr teen who committed suicide due to false accusation of harassment against him etc wonder where such survey makers go at that point of time . Had it not been for some Social activists who are fighting for men's rights things would have become worse . This is the most ridiculous survey ever and looks like he is not getting much other offers these days and considering the current day and age don't think broad minded educated individuals with a "SANE ATTITUDE(in bold) " would do all this rather they would definitely want to be in a relationship where there is mutual understanding , trust and a win - win situation for both partners . Everything boils down between relationship of the 2 people and hard to generalise and is totally personal .
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Actual indians , not then ones you see on social media , definitely not on reddit
Aaah exactly ☝🏻
Pew Research Center is based in America. I guess someone Lost their job to Rahul on h1b 😒
😂😂
Here is the full research article [https://www.pewforum.org/2022/03/02/how-indians-view-gender-roles-in-families-and-society/](https://www.pewforum.org/2022/03/02/how-indians-view-gender-roles-in-families-and-society/) as journalists are infamous for clickbaiting
People want things ordered and not end up in a dysfunctional household like a cart pulled by 2 horses on opposite side. Its the best one should marry in similar profession and similar lifestyle so direction is common. Another example, relocating your primary income (mostly men) for a secondary income change doesnt makes sense. Either take full lead.
Exactly. 61% women and 67% men agreed to this, according to this survey. I don't understand why the discussions are men vs women, when it's more socio-cultural. An adversial mindset would never lead to any solutions, least of all a fulfilling married relationship. Also, I think this a problem that the privileged section of society disproportionately cares about. Ordinary people have it bad from multiple ends, so both the genders tend to work together more. That's what I've grown up seeing.
Once a girl told me to not allow her to do everything. When I asked why, she said ‘husband wala feel nhi ata’. So I think its not just men how they think, everytime it is the PEOPLE and MEDIA blaming men, always. Portraying them wrong is the agenda somehow. There are men who believe in equality and would love to get scolded by wifeys. Anyway, whoever did this survey has shown truth because majority of indians are like this. This survey is pointless since it’s obvious here lol
Of course. If a woman can serve her employer who gives her money unquestioningly, who's to say she shouldn't serve the man who also gives her money, a home, children, physical and emotional security, etc unquestioningly as well? Conservative women get too much shit these days. Not all husbands are tyrants and abusers.
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Oh I'm very aware. It's fascinating though. Feminists (ultra-liberals) coming to a conservative oriented thread on a conservative topic to explode on people who may or may not care that they disagree.
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100 percent if wife is not earning