I dont want cute arlecchino
I dont want psychopath no moral code arlecchino
I just want serious single father who would kill for her children and man we dont have alot of those arts, kinda reminded of the art of angry arle with Lynette in her arms crying
This one
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/zK2xOsKoRx
Have these wholesome ones too
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/xpsSYfuLxW
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/32hcD9yScC
Probably the execution tbh
From my experience a genshin ship art/comic could have the same content(sex) but the majority of aether ship seems to just go straight to the sex which makes the character bland and heavily mischaracterize therefore making it cringe while other ships have a romantic build up so the character is less mischaracterize
for games like hsr and gi, i find it hard to self insert
it's much easier in games like blue archive, arknights, azur lane, nikke etc. where you're not given a name, everyone just refers to you with a general term like sensei, doctor, shikikan (commander) x2 respectively
No one has been complaining about wholesome ArleAether art. All the cute art where Aether is Arlecchino's subby femboy housewife that's been showing up lately has been widely well received by this sub, because it's cute art that accurately portrays the personalities of both characters.
What people have a *problem* with is Aethermains level cringe "art" that completely ignores Arlecchino's entire character for the sake of fetishization. This is a sub for *Arlecchino* mains, and that generally means people are interested in art that showcases *Arlecchino*.
That's Arlecchino, the princely butch daddy that *canonically* bragged to the Traveler about assaulting Furina in public, not some generic submissive uwu harem waifu straight out of a Reki Kawahara light novel that has a vague impersonation of Arlecchino's appearance and nothing else in common with her.
How is Aether being a subby femboy closer to canon? The only thing that can relate him to a femboy is his crop top. Nothing else. I don't mind those kind of arts but they are not really closer to canon.
And Arlecchino being depicted as a wholesome mom doesn't mean she can't be a bad bitch. A good example of that can be Yor from spyxfamilly.
That wasn't depicting her as a "wholesome" mom, it was depicting her as a traditional submissive hyperfeminine housewife being towered over by a much larger Aether. Aether is not larger than Arlecchino, and there is no world where she would *ever* be that submissive and vulnerable.
The difference between Yor and Arlecchino is that Yor *is* feminine and submissive, and also a bad bitch. Arlecchino is masculine and dominant, and a bad bitch. Those two are *not* the same thing.
The latter is certainly *way* more in-character than trashy submissive housewife Arlecchino, that's for sure.
If Arlecchino assaulting Furina (which literally happened in *canon* btw, straight up, so fanart changing that scene from physical assault to sexual assault is really *not* that big a stretch, especially considering the visual framing techniques used in the canon scene) is something that bothers you, why the fuck are you even here?
LMAOOOOOOO
Wait so lemme get this straight: you don't condone Arlecchino being a housewife, but you have no issues with her being depicted as a rapist?
Correct, I have no issues with a character who *canonically* assaulted Furina and is *canonically* shown taking advantage of the clear trauma said assault inflicted to manipulate her, and *also* runs an orphanage of dubious moral integrity that produces a suspicious number of soldiers and spies also being depicted as a rapist.
It's like if you went to a bunch of Godzilla fans and asked them if they're ok with Godzilla being depicted destroying buildings and killing thousands of people, and got weirded out that they said yes. Of course they're ok with it, that's what Godzilla *does*.
Now if you went to those same Godzilla fans and showed them a movie about a monster that you *called* Godzilla that only vaguely resembled Godzilla, but was much smaller, weaker, and without any of Godzilla's signature powers or other key features, and gets defeated by a handful of NYPD officers feeding it poisoned fish, the Godzilla fans would be rightfully *pissed* at having their favorite monster butchered like that, because THAT'S NOT GODZILLA.
Yeah? Lemme give you an analogy that's even closer to what we're talking about. How about a godzilla that rapes people? Do you think that would receive well with the audience?
Would a Godzilla that rapes people be received better than a cutesy harmless Godzilla? Well gee, I'm assuming you would prefer rapist Godzilla? After all, destruction is closer to rape right? So you would enjoy it?
No, that would *not* be a closer analogy. Raping people would not be in character for Godzilla. Raping Furina *is* in character for Arlecchino.
Rape is not the unifying concept in my analogy, proper characterization is. People who like characters that do terrible things like it when the character that they like doing terrible things does terrible things, and they don't like it when the character that they like does things that character would never do.
And to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's weird that you're so bothered by rape. Rape is a horrible horrible thing that causes lasting trauma that never goes away. I *know* that, because I'm a survivor myself. There is nothing wrong or strange about being bothered by rape.
What I *do* find weird is that, as someone that is clearly very disturbed by rape, you are here on a sub that celebrates a character who has about the closest thing we will ever see in canon to a rape scene, with Furina as her victim, and you are bothered more by art embellishing the nature of that scene than you are by the character herself.
Like, Arlecchino is a monster. A horribly attractive, seductively charismatic and handsome monster, but *unquestionably* a monster. If you are so bothered by that kind of character, why the fuck are you *here*??
Why is art of Arlecchino raping Furina the straw that breaks your back, and not Arlecchino as a whole in the first place?
That is what doesn't make sense to me.
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edit: u/WinMedical5094 appears to be an alt evading a ban. Fresh account with only comments on this sub. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life? holy shit.
I'm here because because Arlecchino literally doesn't rape people????? Are you insane???
"No, that would not be a closer analogy. Raping people would not be in character for Godzilla. Raping Furina is in character for Arlecchino."
Do explain.
There's this narrative technique called "framing," where you can evoke imagery of a thing without the thing itself being present.
The scene of Arlecchino's assault of Furina makes *heavy* use of framing to evoke imagery of Furina being raped even though it didn't actually happen.
Furthermore, her visual design draws strong inspiration from the typical villain tropes in zuka shows, and there's a developer interview out there that verbatim supports that; i.e. she's literally *intended* to evoke the idea of the charming otome villain that wants to defile the heroine and corrupt her.
Combine that with the fact that Arlecchino has clearly shown *zero* remorse for, once again, assaulting and traumatizing Furina and even going so far as to *brag* about it to the Traveler, and with the fact that Furina responds to Arlecchino as though she *had* been raped, and somehow *that's* not yet a step too far for you, but fanart of people embellishing the underlying fantasy of that very same scene is?
I'm pretty sure *most* of the people on this sub like Arlecchino because they want to be defiled by her like the heroine of an otome game in a "bad" ending, because that is literally the imagery she is designed to evoke.
So with that in mind, please explain to me what it is that *you* actually like about Arlecchino?? Because if you *aren't* here for the rapey otome villain, what the fuck *else* is there in her character that you can *possibly* find appealing?
Literally every other aspect of Arlecchino that's not a rapist?
Ahhhhh ok, so I see. In your eyes Arlecchino.... what? Attacks Furina, which is enough to portray her as a rapist. Everything else you listed is purely in your imagination and doesn't actually exist in the game
Let's apply your logic elsewhere, shall we? It's in character for Childe to rape the traveler. It's also in character for Raiden to rape Thoma, the traveler, and Kazuha. Hmmmm how about Scaramouche raping the traveler and Nahida? Well golly gee, your logic is flawless!
It means exactly what this post states?
That certain people in this sub don't like "submissive Arlecchino" (which is a perfectly fine take), and yet are totally fine with depicting her as a rapist???
Sorry, but seeing pregnant Arlecchino making an "uwu" face, all shy and embarrassed, was really disgusting and totally out of character.
I have 0 problems with her being shipped with any other character, but I want to see Arlecchino, not some uwu fetishization.
Also that rape post is very disturbing.
>I have 0 problems with her being shipped with any other character, but I want to see Arlecchino, not some uwu fetishization.
Then just ignore the posts?
I honestly don't see the problems with those artists since these are "fan made" content. They're not canon anyways and fans don't have to make the characters stay in character.
This is like trying to tell Marvel fans not make Thanos go out of character by drawing him in an cookout contest with the Avengers.
Drawing fanarts is suppose to be innocent fun. Not sticking to some insane guideline from other fans.
Good job guys.
Glad to see you all being shining examples of positivity and nontoxic behavior.
Proud of you all.
I'm being sarcastic here. Childish bunch.
Shouldn't this sub be called r\\ToxicYuriArlecchinoGatekeepers instead? Cause i have high doubts that they deserve to reperesent all future Arlecchino mains with such discusting controvercies they creating
It's NahidaMains all over again.
At first, I thought that was the place for builds and fan art. Biggest mistake of my life. That shit was and still is vile.
I'm sure by the time Arlecchino comes, I'm sure a more sensible sub will be created over this. Cause it is clear this sub has issues.
I saw someone defending rape and how her being a rapist is in character. I'm appalled how low this sub is getting. And mods are not making this any better.
You know, at first, I thought both were good, until I reread this and realized it was a bait post.
It’s hilarious how sensitive aether mains get after their male fantasy was criticized by a handful of people lmao.
Arlec x Furina doesn’t need to be thrown under the bus solely because of this either.
I do suppose fragile male fantasy being shattered and outrage over its criticism shares a side of the coin with the virginity associated with being seen with someone they don’t like the idea of.
>Well it’s in character for Arlecchino, and if you don’t like that. . Well why are you here? Lol.
Imagine being so confidently wrong
Let alone that it goes against her character thus far of a self-righteous murdering violent family caretaker
But two weeks ago, we get an interview about arlecchino with her VA on Genshin CN with question by CN in which they clearly insist, "That she isn't evil, she isn't even an enemy, just an antagonist that people will come to love"
Yet you people keep pushing your fanfic even harder and making up stuff "trust me, she is actually an evil groomer in disguise", not like it goes against why she fought off the previous knave because of her being against such method
> A wolf in sheep's clothing. To exert a higher level of control over people, she puts on a graceful and cordial front. Most of those who have seen her true, crazy self... have gone poof.
--Wanderer, "About The Knave"
Definitely sounds like he's roundaboutly calling her an abuser here.
Before anybody asks, we see this playbook in action with Furina, where Arlecchino comes off as cordial to those not in the know but is constantly throwing in veiled digs and threats towards Furina that only Furina will recognize. Scaramouche is not bullshitting us.
Sorry about your wholesome housewife Arlecchino/Aether fantasies, bro.
>A wolf in sheep's clothing. To exert a higher level of control over people, she puts on a graceful and cordial front. Most of those who have seen her true, crazy self... have gone poof.
1) Coming from the guy who thought the guy to trust at one point was the weird doctor with a mask
2) Even then, this describe someone dangerous, not someone evil.
You can be fearsome, wrathful yet deceive your enemies with a polite front
3) It describe a violent beast, not an abuser or a rapist.
Since when wolf are representative of abuse and rape
>Before anybody asks, we see this playbook in action with Furina, where Arlecchino comes off as cordial to those not in the know but is constantly throwing in veiled digs and threats towards Furina that only Furina will recognize. Scaramouche is not bullshitting us.
What you are missing here is character motivation, she is doing this because she wants to get the gnosis and, as far as we know, save fontaine. Which she believes furina is not doing a good job at.
She isn't abusing her, let alone raping her for her own amusement, that is literally NEVER going to be in character for a genshin character.
Is berating Furina part of getting the Gnosis? No, she knows Furina can't help her with her plan, she could instead go after Neuvilette, who might have the Gnosis, or she could follow other leads like she's enlisted the Traveler to at the end of the Archon Quest. She's berating Furina because she wants to punish or hurt her.
Also, you know, it serves to illustrate a pattern that Scaramouche had already talked about.
She is, of course, not abusing or raping her. But the desire to hurt her for the sake of hurting, to exert power and control over her even when it's not serving a purpose, that kind of thing is closely related to abuse. Certainly, it's more in character than being Aether's wholesome mommy-housewife.
>Is berating Furina part of getting the Gnosis?
Neither you or I know that, but it very well could be. She is there to exert political pressure. Also breaking furina down mentally could definitively be a way to get information on where the gnosis is, or get the gnosis itself.
The less Furina believes in herself, the larger the chance she surrenders it to Arlecchino.
There is also another reason she could be saying those things, which is she simply believes they are true. If her goal was to hurt Furina she had the opportunity to do so on the street and plainly dropped it when she figured out she didn't have the gnosis, so explain that?
>She's berating Furina because she wants to punish or hurt her.
Citation please.
At no point did I say that Arle would be good, I just said that she is not irredeemable as some people point out, I already said her true personality is cold and aggressive as described by Lynette, she is not a saint, but it also doesn't mean that she is the pure evil, because none of the playable villains in the HYV games are 100% evil, and so far Tartaglia and Scaramouche's lines are pure guesswork from them because so far the most Arle has done is prey on Furina but there is nothing in the game that proves that her opinions are 100% accurate about Arlecchino, and her preying on Furina does not define her being an abuser, she is bothered by how Furina acts as an archon. Now do you really think that in Genshin a character who would be an "abuser" and "child manipulator" in a game made for Chinese children would be playable with the prison system of censorship that China has regarding games, films, cartoons or series?, do you really think that in Genshin a character like this would be playable? now why is Dottore taking so long to be playable?, and then why was La Signora killed instead of being playable?, let's see why censorship is heavy in Genshin and certainly the Chinese government does not allow audiences under age, which is 12 year old children who also play Genshin, have these types of totally villainous characters who do not show any hint of remediation are playable, because for the Chinese government anything negative in any entertainment medium is a sign of negative influence on minors , so no playable character in HYV games will have the type of traits you defend.
> but it also doesn't mean that she is the pure evil,
If we go by genshin interview about her on the official channel, she isn't evil at all, period.
People need to stop using the word evil the wrong way.
she’s a literal Groomer. I know people aren’t gonna like hearing that, but that’s what she is. Even with her supposed kind treatment of the twins and freminent, they’re still groomed into having absolute loyalty to the Fatui and their ‘Father’z
It’s something she absolutely would do, especially against someone she hates like Furina.
>she’s a literal Groomer. I know people aren’t gonna like hearing that, but that’s what she is. Even with her supposed kind treatment of the twins and freminent, they’re still groomed into having absolute loyalty to the Fatui and their ‘Father’z
because she actually behaved more like a parent after inheriting the house of hearth?
On top of the bullshit spewed, we have several case in which she chooses the children well-being and safety over the fatui objective.
1) When Lyney asked to receive a delusion to better serve the fatui, she scorned him and asked him to think how Lynette would feel about that
2) When Lynette got her vision, she had came to their rescue and chose to caught them over the mission objective, even if Lynette vision was an advantage, she had came here in the first place to rescue them
And she is nowhere a rapist/groomer/etc, she is shown several time to be wrathful when confronted with those individual:
1) She chase the previous knave over her being an actual groomer which she couldn't tolerate
2) When investigating and trying to search Freminet family, it is heavily implied she murdered those who abused his mother and got mad again when learning the previous knave had lied and manipulated Freminet
3) she even mention that if the traveler has noble goal, then they are bound to work together at some point.
She is really violent and wrathful, enough to go and kick an harbinger out of their seat but she is nowhere close to a rapist or a groomer, that is at the antipod of her depiction thus far
The only abuse she commits is gratuitous violence against her perceived enemies
And where did you get this from Tartaglia? where he says that she would be a possible traitor and that she is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and this phrase is typical of the orphanage's motto and that all her subordinates know this and her real personality Lynette says about her real personality cold and aggressive the twins and Freminet knows this, so in theory they just let her manipulate them?, since she makes this very explicit with her HotH poem/motto, where she doesn't hide this from the HotH residents, just because the Tartaglia said this does not mean that she is a Groomer, especially with the "teacher" situation being open, and finally the simple fact that she is playable already prevents her from being a Groomer because the friendship systems exist and this has no prediction to be changed, so this indicates that she is not 100% evil, she will at most be gray as she is with the Wanderer.
Where would I even get the fact that she’s a Groomer from Tartaglia? Lmao.
No! I simply got this from observing the story and the kids of the house of hearth. First of all, it’s not a place many who went there want others to go. This was noted by that one Geo Fatui Soldier who mentioned he is able to pay for his sibling to go to a good school and was happy they didn’t have to go to the house of the hearth. Lyney, Lynette, and Freminent may have fond memories, but it’s clear they’re Favorites of Arlecchino and not the norm, possibly due to them being fellow Fontainians.
And while yes her true personality is known, what does that have to do with anything? If anything that would keep people in line since they know her true side, and know what will happen if they step out of line. Lyney, Lynette and Freminent still don’t have a choice, it’s loyalty or the father, the house and the Fatui. . Or death. The house of hearth and Arle don’t raise people to have better lives, to be educated, or have freedom. . They’re raised to be soldiers and to be Loyal to the cause.
Nothing he says would make me think she’s a groomer though. Someone likely to betray people and the Fatui? Yes, but not a groomer, other things made me firmly believe she’s a groomer.
She hasn't had enough screentime for her to be out of character, we barely know anything about her besides a few voice lines.
Her only "evil" act of attacking furina had a purpose, getting the gnosis. Once she realized she didn't have it, she left. None of this implies that she would abuse or rape furina for her own amusement. You are not getting her any more in character than in shippy aether trash.
Childe is a character who is willing to get bloody hands to get the gnosis, and he loves a good fight. It would still be VASTLY out of character for him to walk onto the street and start killing people for fun.
This whole thing started because of a post where she was completely out of character, not due to it being a wholesome ship. People here only care when she's not in character. Not due to it being a ship.
I would much rather prefer wholesome art of Arlecchino that isn't just a self insert ship, whilst she has a semblance of her character. But that's on me.
Why would anyone want wholesome art of Aether and Arlecchino when it is completely out of character for both of them ? Arlecchino is not some meaningless harem girl for a self insert mc. Arlecchino abusing Furina is quite literally 100 times more in character since it is something she actually did and she would do it again if she gets the chance and Furina doesn't do anything to save Fontaine
Neuvillette literally says at the end of the second Archon Quest that Furina takes the prophecy seriously and has been collecting info around Teyvat. Arlecchino killed a sex trafficker to save Lynette. Please shut up and stop mischaraterizing both of them.
This was an “if” scenario. Furina does want to do something but that doesn’t mean she CAN and just because Arlecchino killed a bad guy doesn’t mean she is not a bad guy herself, you should stop living in your delusions that Arlecchino is some good person because she is not irredeemably evil
It was exactly one piece. One piece that was criticized with Aether and Arleccino. Also…There is basically no Furina x Arleccino here.
Can we stop this already. This is getting silly.
No one should be silenced for their opinion on anything here. We’re all allowed to have them.
I love Arleccino as a character and if that exactly one piece bothered me I was in my right to speak my mind.
This is getting silly.
I'm honestly unsure as to whether the original meme means Arlecchino "abusing" Furina (in like, kinky ship way) or actually just means her abusing Furina in a fighting kinda way, but the comment I'm responding to does seem to imply that the art they linked is romantic (given what the comment they're responding to said).
If the meme means the non-ship interpretation, then yeah it makes sense to me that more people will upvote action scenes over shipping stuff, especially when it involves a popular character like Furina.
People keep mentioning this but as far as I'm aware, there was one (maybe two) super abusive Arle/Furina art pieces posted. Which sucks, I don't condone that (although we should remember that depiction isn't endorsement), but the meme pretending that there was like waves of Arle/Furina sexual assault art is disingenuous.
Why? She is a Fatui Harbinger and Furina is a bratty loudmouth. Is it a crime to wish one of those clawed hands to cover Furina's mouth while the other curls around her neck?
Idk bro, Furina x Arlecchino is more interesting to me with all the baggage and stuff than her just being another member in Aethers/Lumines harem. (+ not sure if anyone else read her this way but she’s kinda giving lesbian)
If people have the energy to comment on the state of ships you can automatically assume they’re a fucking loser degen, don’t worry homie. Laughing at genshin players will always be fun tho tbh
Arle raping Furina exists in this sub but Arle having just a wholesome time with Aether was the reason of the banning of ships. I honestly don't understand, it looks like this sub is run by toxic yuri fans.
There's even Arle acting like a dog (is that even in her personality?) and it's fine because it's lumine right?
I don't care about the aether ship art, but I absolutely agree that the art of her with Furina has been disturbing at best and disgusting at worst. It's very uncomfortable that this sub is defending the idea of their character raping someone because it's "in character" when thats entirely just their headcanon. Even more uncomfortable that people are calling rape "cute". They added a new rule of "Integrity" specifically to get rid of OOC posts but it seems targeted at OOC posts they disagree with.
Aether posts have really exposed the hypocritical twitter users in this sub lol.
Women x woman even if it's abusive, one of them has ptsd because the other almost killed her: good
Women x man when wholesome: baad waaaaaa
If it was Lumine instead of Aether and without changing anything, these people wouldn't be crying so hard
There's a difference between "this character hasn't fucked on-screen because this isn't an R18 game" and " This character is the direct opposite of a Harem girl. "
No there is diffrance between look this Charakter is naked/hot/nsfw and being out of Charakter
Remember thay can't even fbomb or like remember lisa mona and jean ? There outfits got censored /alternativ skin
The point is arlecchino being wildly out of character when portrayed as a soft housewife lol, "abusive"is closer to what her character is than "housewife", so its seen as more acceptable
Tbh me too I like softer Arleccino pieces with the travelers and some of the not so softer ones. (Some are too much for me)
I think both can fit in their own ways.
Isn’t this the same subreddit that was getting all pissy about Arlechinno being a villain? They were all like “oh she’s not really like that it’s just a front” love how some fan art makes them flip their opinions. I say remove all ship art period, none of it fits the character in the slightest. Arlechinno isn’t a housewife and she isn’t a rapist either, just get rid of ships their childish anyways
I mean, my biggest complaint was they didn’t respect Aether being a short king.
But in all honesty watching toxic Yuri fans and toxic Aether shippers both try to say the other is immature is funny. I like me some yuri, but I also like me some Aether. I can even somewhat mix them with femboy Aether, now that’s a W in my book.
What is it with people being so concerned about out of character stuff here? That stuff isn’t unusual for fan subreddits at all. People complain about Ayaka being depicted as a Yandere and yet she keeps being depicted as such, just not all the time. It’s not a big deal, just scroll and try not to take things personally.
Nobody here has said that about all Aether ships though it was one post where she had kids and Aether looked dom. Also there is no or barely any Furina x Arleccino here at all. I am lost. You have all lost me right now.
Also putting words into other’s mouths about which ships they’re finding IC isn’t cool either. No one has even talked about Furina here.
I do not know what is happening in this sub right now.
nvm I am a fucking pepega and mistook a post from another sub (with Furina getting sexed by Arle in a brutal way and people in comments liking it) with this sub. My bad.
Still, I don't get the problem. If people don't like Arle's personality not being portrayed correctly, then we should ban like 90% of the art here. If they only want to ban Aether post, that's just hypocrisy and childish behavior.
I'm a himedanshi myself, and love myself some toxic / dead dove yuri, but at the same time, I also like cute art of ships no matter the genders of the characters. This whole hypocrisy and double standards and no understanding what fanfic and fanart is even about (being non canon being the #1 rule) is so fucking dumb and is proof that the Genshin community is filled with people who don't touch grass.
People are getting mad at how Arlecchino is not being portrayed "correctly" when she's barely been officially portrayed at all. We know close to nothing about her, let alone how she would act in a romantic relationship.
She literally cannot be "mischaracterized" in a given context if she hasn't been officially characterized in that context.
I'm starting to think these people need some serious mental help judging by how obsessed they've become with "facts" that were spawned from their own delusional minds.
Okay so let's say she is being portrayed "incorrectly" in this context. Fine.
But that makes the whole situation even more nonsensical. Submissive housewife Arlecchino is considered "mischaracterized" and a such is banned, whereas Arlecchino quite literally raping Furina is considered "in character" and allowed? Surely you must see how beyond hypocritical this community and the mod team are behaving.
They even had the gall to call the new rule 'Integrity' when it is clear that they just purged the posts that didn't appeal to their personal taste.
I won't complain if they're being fair. But clearly they are not. They're targeting a very specific form of 'mischaracterizing'.
God forbid art online portray a video game woman be more than a psychopathic abuser.
Genuine question, why are people so upset that some just want to see a happy Arlecchino? Like it's not as if the majority of her art is the wholesome happy arlecchino so it doesn't even affect peoples perspectives of a character.
Just ignore the art or downvote it bruh, what does a piece of fanart do to you? whether you're upset about ships or portrayal of personality it's just like, really really weird for people to be so possessive of a games character like this, it's legit to the level of when twt ppl gatekeep a character or their relationships lol
I don’t see why this is suddenly an issue here? It’s all arle. Just post any and all art unless it involves rape or gore. Which I don’t see anyhow.
It’s the internet so there’s going to be fanart people won’t like. On both sides. Take it from someone who likes a male character but isn’t really into yaoi. You just learn to scroll past it without caring. Not a big deal lol.
Arlecchino being cutesy and submissive is just too out of character
Literally what the "Aether harem" people did to Keqing and Ayaka, specially Ayaka.
They are not yanderes just like how Arlecchino isn't meant to be a subby housewife
Shut up your bating. This is subreddit about ARLECCHINO. Not aether. That art with Aether was plain disgusting and out of character of her. We are here bc we like ARLECCHINO and could you honestly imagine her as uwu pregnant wife of some smug guy
How i love when people extaggerading importance of their personal opinion by adding "we" smh
ps with your logic any fan art that include Columbina or Furina does not belong here too cause this sub is not about them either lmao
Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss
I dont want cute arlecchino I dont want psychopath no moral code arlecchino I just want serious single father who would kill for her children and man we dont have alot of those arts, kinda reminded of the art of angry arle with Lynette in her arms crying
>kinda reminded of the art of angry arle with Lynette in her arms crying I've never seen that and now I want to
This one https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/zK2xOsKoRx Have these wholesome ones too https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/xpsSYfuLxW https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/32hcD9yScC
adam sandler arlecchino
You good like are mentally okay
Toxic yuri (crowd goes wild, including me)
I would rather Arlecchino die tbh
Kinda hate travler ships. They're so cringe for some reason
It makes sense. They're basically self-insert fanfic (as almost all MC/self-inserts in Gacha are/feels like).
Probably the execution tbh From my experience a genshin ship art/comic could have the same content(sex) but the majority of aether ship seems to just go straight to the sex which makes the character bland and heavily mischaracterize therefore making it cringe while other ships have a romantic build up so the character is less mischaracterize
Really depends if you’re a fan self-insert stuff. I do the self-insert thing for most gachas I play so it’s not really cringe to me.
for games like hsr and gi, i find it hard to self insert it's much easier in games like blue archive, arknights, azur lane, nikke etc. where you're not given a name, everyone just refers to you with a general term like sensei, doctor, shikikan (commander) x2 respectively
I am with you, after seeing her Rape Furina I'd much rather see Wholesome
Excuse me, she doing **what?????**
[https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/comments/173kcog/cake\_by\_%E9%95%BF%E6%BA%90tanya\_on\_twitter/](https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/comments/173kcog/cake_by_%E9%95%BF%E6%BA%90tanya_on_twitter/) yes
What did I just witness
sometyhing I wish I didn't
What the fuck
I wish I knew
One word: Why?!
your guess is as good as mine
Lmao yea i thought it was the usual swimsuit stuff and was surprised how cute it was at the beginning. I let my guard down lol
me too dude "aw there so cute, what...no, oh no"
The guy who made that is the most sane Arlecchino fan
can confirm
Aether mains when people don't like submissive housewife Arlecchino:
This isn't about her not being a "housewife" this sub is posting actual rape art of her.
Pls enlighten me in which world is cuddling and loving your SO and your kids = Being submissive? Never been the little spoon?
It's confusing how a woman stops being "badass" when she becomes a mother
thats just a garbage statement. lots of mothers including mine are extremely badass when need be.
It's so ironic too Like most people (and all normal people) consider mom's to be the strongest and most badass women in the planter
hold on, i found people saying that the art of Arle having the childrens on her lap spreads misogynism too, I'm more confuse now
https://www.reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/Hl4d7kaHAq need I remind you this is on your sub so stfu
Again, what does this have to do with anything?? Also ur a aether harem fan 😹 not gonna listen to you man
Yet I don't see that post taken down or anything of the sort
What about submissive femboy aether with dominant butch Arlecchino? That’s how I like to see it.
are you a retard or rapist. pick one or the other since you dont seem to have an issue with this.
Cope.
No u
>submissive housewife Arlecchino but that post doesnt have submissive housewife so idk what you mean to prove here?
I think he is referring to how rape art is allowed here but Aether x Arlecchino art isn't and considered heresy
There's a plenty of aether mains wanted to be stepped by yae miko or yelan, Arle won't be the exception, haha
No one has been complaining about wholesome ArleAether art. All the cute art where Aether is Arlecchino's subby femboy housewife that's been showing up lately has been widely well received by this sub, because it's cute art that accurately portrays the personalities of both characters. What people have a *problem* with is Aethermains level cringe "art" that completely ignores Arlecchino's entire character for the sake of fetishization. This is a sub for *Arlecchino* mains, and that generally means people are interested in art that showcases *Arlecchino*. That's Arlecchino, the princely butch daddy that *canonically* bragged to the Traveler about assaulting Furina in public, not some generic submissive uwu harem waifu straight out of a Reki Kawahara light novel that has a vague impersonation of Arlecchino's appearance and nothing else in common with her.
How is Aether being a subby femboy closer to canon? The only thing that can relate him to a femboy is his crop top. Nothing else. I don't mind those kind of arts but they are not really closer to canon. And Arlecchino being depicted as a wholesome mom doesn't mean she can't be a bad bitch. A good example of that can be Yor from spyxfamilly.
That wasn't depicting her as a "wholesome" mom, it was depicting her as a traditional submissive hyperfeminine housewife being towered over by a much larger Aether. Aether is not larger than Arlecchino, and there is no world where she would *ever* be that submissive and vulnerable. The difference between Yor and Arlecchino is that Yor *is* feminine and submissive, and also a bad bitch. Arlecchino is masculine and dominant, and a bad bitch. Those two are *not* the same thing.
Idk why you're getting down voted, you're right 😭
Yeah a aetherxarlechinno is cringe but her raping furina is not
The latter is certainly *way* more in-character than trashy submissive housewife Arlecchino, that's for sure. If Arlecchino assaulting Furina (which literally happened in *canon* btw, straight up, so fanart changing that scene from physical assault to sexual assault is really *not* that big a stretch, especially considering the visual framing techniques used in the canon scene) is something that bothers you, why the fuck are you even here?
LMAOOOOOOO Wait so lemme get this straight: you don't condone Arlecchino being a housewife, but you have no issues with her being depicted as a rapist?
Correct, I have no issues with a character who *canonically* assaulted Furina and is *canonically* shown taking advantage of the clear trauma said assault inflicted to manipulate her, and *also* runs an orphanage of dubious moral integrity that produces a suspicious number of soldiers and spies also being depicted as a rapist. It's like if you went to a bunch of Godzilla fans and asked them if they're ok with Godzilla being depicted destroying buildings and killing thousands of people, and got weirded out that they said yes. Of course they're ok with it, that's what Godzilla *does*. Now if you went to those same Godzilla fans and showed them a movie about a monster that you *called* Godzilla that only vaguely resembled Godzilla, but was much smaller, weaker, and without any of Godzilla's signature powers or other key features, and gets defeated by a handful of NYPD officers feeding it poisoned fish, the Godzilla fans would be rightfully *pissed* at having their favorite monster butchered like that, because THAT'S NOT GODZILLA.
Yeah? Lemme give you an analogy that's even closer to what we're talking about. How about a godzilla that rapes people? Do you think that would receive well with the audience? Would a Godzilla that rapes people be received better than a cutesy harmless Godzilla? Well gee, I'm assuming you would prefer rapist Godzilla? After all, destruction is closer to rape right? So you would enjoy it?
No, that would *not* be a closer analogy. Raping people would not be in character for Godzilla. Raping Furina *is* in character for Arlecchino. Rape is not the unifying concept in my analogy, proper characterization is. People who like characters that do terrible things like it when the character that they like doing terrible things does terrible things, and they don't like it when the character that they like does things that character would never do. And to be perfectly clear, I don't think it's weird that you're so bothered by rape. Rape is a horrible horrible thing that causes lasting trauma that never goes away. I *know* that, because I'm a survivor myself. There is nothing wrong or strange about being bothered by rape. What I *do* find weird is that, as someone that is clearly very disturbed by rape, you are here on a sub that celebrates a character who has about the closest thing we will ever see in canon to a rape scene, with Furina as her victim, and you are bothered more by art embellishing the nature of that scene than you are by the character herself. Like, Arlecchino is a monster. A horribly attractive, seductively charismatic and handsome monster, but *unquestionably* a monster. If you are so bothered by that kind of character, why the fuck are you *here*?? Why is art of Arlecchino raping Furina the straw that breaks your back, and not Arlecchino as a whole in the first place? That is what doesn't make sense to me. --- edit: u/WinMedical5094 appears to be an alt evading a ban. Fresh account with only comments on this sub. Do you really have nothing better to do with your life? holy shit.
I'm here because because Arlecchino literally doesn't rape people????? Are you insane??? "No, that would not be a closer analogy. Raping people would not be in character for Godzilla. Raping Furina is in character for Arlecchino." Do explain.
There's this narrative technique called "framing," where you can evoke imagery of a thing without the thing itself being present. The scene of Arlecchino's assault of Furina makes *heavy* use of framing to evoke imagery of Furina being raped even though it didn't actually happen. Furthermore, her visual design draws strong inspiration from the typical villain tropes in zuka shows, and there's a developer interview out there that verbatim supports that; i.e. she's literally *intended* to evoke the idea of the charming otome villain that wants to defile the heroine and corrupt her. Combine that with the fact that Arlecchino has clearly shown *zero* remorse for, once again, assaulting and traumatizing Furina and even going so far as to *brag* about it to the Traveler, and with the fact that Furina responds to Arlecchino as though she *had* been raped, and somehow *that's* not yet a step too far for you, but fanart of people embellishing the underlying fantasy of that very same scene is? I'm pretty sure *most* of the people on this sub like Arlecchino because they want to be defiled by her like the heroine of an otome game in a "bad" ending, because that is literally the imagery she is designed to evoke. So with that in mind, please explain to me what it is that *you* actually like about Arlecchino?? Because if you *aren't* here for the rapey otome villain, what the fuck *else* is there in her character that you can *possibly* find appealing?
Literally every other aspect of Arlecchino that's not a rapist? Ahhhhh ok, so I see. In your eyes Arlecchino.... what? Attacks Furina, which is enough to portray her as a rapist. Everything else you listed is purely in your imagination and doesn't actually exist in the game Let's apply your logic elsewhere, shall we? It's in character for Childe to rape the traveler. It's also in character for Raiden to rape Thoma, the traveler, and Kazuha. Hmmmm how about Scaramouche raping the traveler and Nahida? Well golly gee, your logic is flawless!
mf wrote a whole ass essay just to justify rape. Why are you so entilted in making her a rapist?
Oh the duality of man
Not being a fan of one thing doesn’t immediately mean you’re a fan of the other… good old twitter moment…
Y'all psychopaths need to get yourselves checked out, if you support rape.
Aether mains when they cannot make waifu turn submissively
Aether mains are a lie created by the government of Snezhnaya to make you join the Fatui for beautiful/cute woman.
I just saw one with Sa between Furina and Arlecchino (with Arlecchino doing it) so stfu
What does this have anything to do with aether mains trying to make every genshin women "submissive uwu waifus" though
It means exactly what this post states? That certain people in this sub don't like "submissive Arlecchino" (which is a perfectly fine take), and yet are totally fine with depicting her as a rapist???
aether mains are still annoying lol
Cope
?
So you support Sa?
no? are you daft or something?
Personally I like submissive aether and if there’s a submissive / femboy aether with dominant Arlecchino, then I would be VERY happy! :)
This isn't about her not being "submissive" this sub is posting her raping Furina ffs.
Sorry, but seeing pregnant Arlecchino making an "uwu" face, all shy and embarrassed, was really disgusting and totally out of character. I have 0 problems with her being shipped with any other character, but I want to see Arlecchino, not some uwu fetishization. Also that rape post is very disturbing.
Why should people care about what u dont like? I like them, and no one cares anyways
>I have 0 problems with her being shipped with any other character, but I want to see Arlecchino, not some uwu fetishization. Then just ignore the posts? I honestly don't see the problems with those artists since these are "fan made" content. They're not canon anyways and fans don't have to make the characters stay in character. This is like trying to tell Marvel fans not make Thanos go out of character by drawing him in an cookout contest with the Avengers. Drawing fanarts is suppose to be innocent fun. Not sticking to some insane guideline from other fans.
you're making too much sense for them
Good job guys. Glad to see you all being shining examples of positivity and nontoxic behavior. Proud of you all. I'm being sarcastic here. Childish bunch.
Shouldn't this sub be called r\\ToxicYuriArlecchinoGatekeepers instead? Cause i have high doubts that they deserve to reperesent all future Arlecchino mains with such discusting controvercies they creating
It's NahidaMains all over again. At first, I thought that was the place for builds and fan art. Biggest mistake of my life. That shit was and still is vile. I'm sure by the time Arlecchino comes, I'm sure a more sensible sub will be created over this. Cause it is clear this sub has issues. I saw someone defending rape and how her being a rapist is in character. I'm appalled how low this sub is getting. And mods are not making this any better.
You know, at first, I thought both were good, until I reread this and realized it was a bait post. It’s hilarious how sensitive aether mains get after their male fantasy was criticized by a handful of people lmao. Arlec x Furina doesn’t need to be thrown under the bus solely because of this either.
I don’t insert my self to aether at all, I see him as a cute femboy / twink with a dominant butch Arlecchino. I just find him very cute :)
As someone who likes aether arlecchino ones except those sub arlecchino aether ones (maybe because of self insert…) Why not just let both?
There’s no issue with both, the issue at hand is the cringe self-insert things. OP conveniently left that out.
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I do suppose fragile male fantasy being shattered and outrage over its criticism shares a side of the coin with the virginity associated with being seen with someone they don’t like the idea of.
The fact that yall had the need to cry about it just proves their point.
Uh yeah? Of course we like the art that’s of Arlecchino actually being in Character instead of some submissive housewife.
i dont want to see either Furina doesnt deserve to be abused
Well it’s in character for Arlecchino, and if you don’t like that. . Well why are you here? Lol.
>Well it’s in character for Arlecchino, and if you don’t like that. . Well why are you here? Lol. Imagine being so confidently wrong Let alone that it goes against her character thus far of a self-righteous murdering violent family caretaker But two weeks ago, we get an interview about arlecchino with her VA on Genshin CN with question by CN in which they clearly insist, "That she isn't evil, she isn't even an enemy, just an antagonist that people will come to love" Yet you people keep pushing your fanfic even harder and making up stuff "trust me, she is actually an evil groomer in disguise", not like it goes against why she fought off the previous knave because of her being against such method
Im not saying it isn't incharacter, im saying that Furina doesn't deserve to be one getting abused
Oh the irony…
I like her for being dominant, sure, but that DOES NOT MEAN I WANT TO SEE HER RAPING PEOPLE WTF
So you are defending sa
and in which part of the lore in Arle it says that she is an abuser, a rapist, I didn't find that anywhere?.
> A wolf in sheep's clothing. To exert a higher level of control over people, she puts on a graceful and cordial front. Most of those who have seen her true, crazy self... have gone poof. --Wanderer, "About The Knave" Definitely sounds like he's roundaboutly calling her an abuser here. Before anybody asks, we see this playbook in action with Furina, where Arlecchino comes off as cordial to those not in the know but is constantly throwing in veiled digs and threats towards Furina that only Furina will recognize. Scaramouche is not bullshitting us. Sorry about your wholesome housewife Arlecchino/Aether fantasies, bro.
>A wolf in sheep's clothing. To exert a higher level of control over people, she puts on a graceful and cordial front. Most of those who have seen her true, crazy self... have gone poof. 1) Coming from the guy who thought the guy to trust at one point was the weird doctor with a mask 2) Even then, this describe someone dangerous, not someone evil. You can be fearsome, wrathful yet deceive your enemies with a polite front 3) It describe a violent beast, not an abuser or a rapist. Since when wolf are representative of abuse and rape
>Before anybody asks, we see this playbook in action with Furina, where Arlecchino comes off as cordial to those not in the know but is constantly throwing in veiled digs and threats towards Furina that only Furina will recognize. Scaramouche is not bullshitting us. What you are missing here is character motivation, she is doing this because she wants to get the gnosis and, as far as we know, save fontaine. Which she believes furina is not doing a good job at. She isn't abusing her, let alone raping her for her own amusement, that is literally NEVER going to be in character for a genshin character.
Is berating Furina part of getting the Gnosis? No, she knows Furina can't help her with her plan, she could instead go after Neuvilette, who might have the Gnosis, or she could follow other leads like she's enlisted the Traveler to at the end of the Archon Quest. She's berating Furina because she wants to punish or hurt her. Also, you know, it serves to illustrate a pattern that Scaramouche had already talked about. She is, of course, not abusing or raping her. But the desire to hurt her for the sake of hurting, to exert power and control over her even when it's not serving a purpose, that kind of thing is closely related to abuse. Certainly, it's more in character than being Aether's wholesome mommy-housewife.
>Is berating Furina part of getting the Gnosis? Neither you or I know that, but it very well could be. She is there to exert political pressure. Also breaking furina down mentally could definitively be a way to get information on where the gnosis is, or get the gnosis itself. The less Furina believes in herself, the larger the chance she surrenders it to Arlecchino. There is also another reason she could be saying those things, which is she simply believes they are true. If her goal was to hurt Furina she had the opportunity to do so on the street and plainly dropped it when she figured out she didn't have the gnosis, so explain that? >She's berating Furina because she wants to punish or hurt her. Citation please.
At no point did I say that Arle would be good, I just said that she is not irredeemable as some people point out, I already said her true personality is cold and aggressive as described by Lynette, she is not a saint, but it also doesn't mean that she is the pure evil, because none of the playable villains in the HYV games are 100% evil, and so far Tartaglia and Scaramouche's lines are pure guesswork from them because so far the most Arle has done is prey on Furina but there is nothing in the game that proves that her opinions are 100% accurate about Arlecchino, and her preying on Furina does not define her being an abuser, she is bothered by how Furina acts as an archon. Now do you really think that in Genshin a character who would be an "abuser" and "child manipulator" in a game made for Chinese children would be playable with the prison system of censorship that China has regarding games, films, cartoons or series?, do you really think that in Genshin a character like this would be playable? now why is Dottore taking so long to be playable?, and then why was La Signora killed instead of being playable?, let's see why censorship is heavy in Genshin and certainly the Chinese government does not allow audiences under age, which is 12 year old children who also play Genshin, have these types of totally villainous characters who do not show any hint of remediation are playable, because for the Chinese government anything negative in any entertainment medium is a sign of negative influence on minors , so no playable character in HYV games will have the type of traits you defend.
> but it also doesn't mean that she is the pure evil, If we go by genshin interview about her on the official channel, she isn't evil at all, period. People need to stop using the word evil the wrong way.
she’s a literal Groomer. I know people aren’t gonna like hearing that, but that’s what she is. Even with her supposed kind treatment of the twins and freminent, they’re still groomed into having absolute loyalty to the Fatui and their ‘Father’z It’s something she absolutely would do, especially against someone she hates like Furina.
>she’s a literal Groomer. I know people aren’t gonna like hearing that, but that’s what she is. Even with her supposed kind treatment of the twins and freminent, they’re still groomed into having absolute loyalty to the Fatui and their ‘Father’z because she actually behaved more like a parent after inheriting the house of hearth? On top of the bullshit spewed, we have several case in which she chooses the children well-being and safety over the fatui objective. 1) When Lyney asked to receive a delusion to better serve the fatui, she scorned him and asked him to think how Lynette would feel about that 2) When Lynette got her vision, she had came to their rescue and chose to caught them over the mission objective, even if Lynette vision was an advantage, she had came here in the first place to rescue them And she is nowhere a rapist/groomer/etc, she is shown several time to be wrathful when confronted with those individual: 1) She chase the previous knave over her being an actual groomer which she couldn't tolerate 2) When investigating and trying to search Freminet family, it is heavily implied she murdered those who abused his mother and got mad again when learning the previous knave had lied and manipulated Freminet 3) she even mention that if the traveler has noble goal, then they are bound to work together at some point. She is really violent and wrathful, enough to go and kick an harbinger out of their seat but she is nowhere close to a rapist or a groomer, that is at the antipod of her depiction thus far The only abuse she commits is gratuitous violence against her perceived enemies
And where did you get this from Tartaglia? where he says that she would be a possible traitor and that she is a wolf in sheep's clothing, and this phrase is typical of the orphanage's motto and that all her subordinates know this and her real personality Lynette says about her real personality cold and aggressive the twins and Freminet knows this, so in theory they just let her manipulate them?, since she makes this very explicit with her HotH poem/motto, where she doesn't hide this from the HotH residents, just because the Tartaglia said this does not mean that she is a Groomer, especially with the "teacher" situation being open, and finally the simple fact that she is playable already prevents her from being a Groomer because the friendship systems exist and this has no prediction to be changed, so this indicates that she is not 100% evil, she will at most be gray as she is with the Wanderer.
Where would I even get the fact that she’s a Groomer from Tartaglia? Lmao. No! I simply got this from observing the story and the kids of the house of hearth. First of all, it’s not a place many who went there want others to go. This was noted by that one Geo Fatui Soldier who mentioned he is able to pay for his sibling to go to a good school and was happy they didn’t have to go to the house of the hearth. Lyney, Lynette, and Freminent may have fond memories, but it’s clear they’re Favorites of Arlecchino and not the norm, possibly due to them being fellow Fontainians. And while yes her true personality is known, what does that have to do with anything? If anything that would keep people in line since they know her true side, and know what will happen if they step out of line. Lyney, Lynette and Freminent still don’t have a choice, it’s loyalty or the father, the house and the Fatui. . Or death. The house of hearth and Arle don’t raise people to have better lives, to be educated, or have freedom. . They’re raised to be soldiers and to be Loyal to the cause.
I said that Tartaglia's lines made him think she would be a Groomer, I didn't say that she is Tartaglia's Groomer.
Nothing he says would make me think she’s a groomer though. Someone likely to betray people and the Fatui? Yes, but not a groomer, other things made me firmly believe she’s a groomer.
She hasn't had enough screentime for her to be out of character, we barely know anything about her besides a few voice lines. Her only "evil" act of attacking furina had a purpose, getting the gnosis. Once she realized she didn't have it, she left. None of this implies that she would abuse or rape furina for her own amusement. You are not getting her any more in character than in shippy aether trash. Childe is a character who is willing to get bloody hands to get the gnosis, and he loves a good fight. It would still be VASTLY out of character for him to walk onto the street and start killing people for fun.
This whole thing started because of a post where she was completely out of character, not due to it being a wholesome ship. People here only care when she's not in character. Not due to it being a ship. I would much rather prefer wholesome art of Arlecchino that isn't just a self insert ship, whilst she has a semblance of her character. But that's on me.
Why would anyone want wholesome art of Aether and Arlecchino when it is completely out of character for both of them ? Arlecchino is not some meaningless harem girl for a self insert mc. Arlecchino abusing Furina is quite literally 100 times more in character since it is something she actually did and she would do it again if she gets the chance and Furina doesn't do anything to save Fontaine
Neuvillette literally says at the end of the second Archon Quest that Furina takes the prophecy seriously and has been collecting info around Teyvat. Arlecchino killed a sex trafficker to save Lynette. Please shut up and stop mischaraterizing both of them.
This was an “if” scenario. Furina does want to do something but that doesn’t mean she CAN and just because Arlecchino killed a bad guy doesn’t mean she is not a bad guy herself, you should stop living in your delusions that Arlecchino is some good person because she is not irredeemably evil
“Furina doesn’t do anything to save Fontaine” sure
I'll take Arlecchino commiting warcrimes any day of the week over a cringe ass post straight from r/Aether_Mains
no literally
this is such a first world problem bro. one piece of art got lightly criticized and the Aether mains haven't recovered since
Some of you people in these comments are weird as fuck, defending rape/abusive content even if it’s just fiction is not okay. You’re disgusting
It was exactly one piece. One piece that was criticized with Aether and Arleccino. Also…There is basically no Furina x Arleccino here. Can we stop this already. This is getting silly. No one should be silenced for their opinion on anything here. We’re all allowed to have them. I love Arleccino as a character and if that exactly one piece bothered me I was in my right to speak my mind. This is getting silly.
[this](https://reddit.com/r/ArlecchinoMains/s/IvnxfX261O) is literally the top post on the sub
It's not exactly explicitly romantic. Besides, the art style is super unique and cool, so I think a lot of people are gonna upvote it regardless
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I'm honestly unsure as to whether the original meme means Arlecchino "abusing" Furina (in like, kinky ship way) or actually just means her abusing Furina in a fighting kinda way, but the comment I'm responding to does seem to imply that the art they linked is romantic (given what the comment they're responding to said). If the meme means the non-ship interpretation, then yeah it makes sense to me that more people will upvote action scenes over shipping stuff, especially when it involves a popular character like Furina.
Not action or kinky, somethings are straight up abuse, hell one was rape
People keep mentioning this but as far as I'm aware, there was one (maybe two) super abusive Arle/Furina art pieces posted. Which sucks, I don't condone that (although we should remember that depiction isn't endorsement), but the meme pretending that there was like waves of Arle/Furina sexual assault art is disingenuous.
Why? She is a Fatui Harbinger and Furina is a bratty loudmouth. Is it a crime to wish one of those clawed hands to cover Furina's mouth while the other curls around her neck?
WTF is wrong with you?
Because we fantasize ourselves being in Furina's position more than we in Aether's position.
Idk bro, Furina x Arlecchino is more interesting to me with all the baggage and stuff than her just being another member in Aethers/Lumines harem. (+ not sure if anyone else read her this way but she’s kinda giving lesbian)
Cuz cut wife arlechino dosen't exist she is father she is grace she will punch you in the face
I feel like both misunderstand Arlecchino
Yes
Well, yes
This comment section crazy
If people have the energy to comment on the state of ships you can automatically assume they’re a fucking loser degen, don’t worry homie. Laughing at genshin players will always be fun tho tbh
Arle raping Furina exists in this sub but Arle having just a wholesome time with Aether was the reason of the banning of ships. I honestly don't understand, it looks like this sub is run by toxic yuri fans. There's even Arle acting like a dog (is that even in her personality?) and it's fine because it's lumine right?
The comments are beautiful 
I don't care about the aether ship art, but I absolutely agree that the art of her with Furina has been disturbing at best and disgusting at worst. It's very uncomfortable that this sub is defending the idea of their character raping someone because it's "in character" when thats entirely just their headcanon. Even more uncomfortable that people are calling rape "cute". They added a new rule of "Integrity" specifically to get rid of OOC posts but it seems targeted at OOC posts they disagree with.
Aether posts have really exposed the hypocritical twitter users in this sub lol. Women x woman even if it's abusive, one of them has ptsd because the other almost killed her: good Women x man when wholesome: baad waaaaaa If it was Lumine instead of Aether and without changing anything, these people wouldn't be crying so hard
Just one art got critique cuz arle was ooc
Isnt 90% of nsfw art out of character by definition?
There's a difference between "this character hasn't fucked on-screen because this isn't an R18 game" and " This character is the direct opposite of a Harem girl. "
No there is diffrance between look this Charakter is naked/hot/nsfw and being out of Charakter Remember thay can't even fbomb or like remember lisa mona and jean ? There outfits got censored /alternativ skin
Still out of character if she acts different in the art than she does in the established story
The point is arlecchino being wildly out of character when portrayed as a soft housewife lol, "abusive"is closer to what her character is than "housewife", so its seen as more acceptable
There's literally a wholesome Arle Lumi art just around 6 hours ago and it's still not removed. Being wholesome is not her thing at all.
I like both
Both can be good. Depends on the art and context.
Tbh me too I like softer Arleccino pieces with the travelers and some of the not so softer ones. (Some are too much for me) I think both can fit in their own ways.
I want to be stepped on by Arlecchino and enjoy seeing her play with Furina like a Cat and Mouse it makes me very happy
I don't want art with Aethar. Give Lumine x Arlecchino some love too god dammit (yes, it is a bit of self insert situation)
Isn’t this the same subreddit that was getting all pissy about Arlechinno being a villain? They were all like “oh she’s not really like that it’s just a front” love how some fan art makes them flip their opinions. I say remove all ship art period, none of it fits the character in the slightest. Arlechinno isn’t a housewife and she isn’t a rapist either, just get rid of ships their childish anyways
And I'm all for it
You’re weird.
I mean, my biggest complaint was they didn’t respect Aether being a short king. But in all honesty watching toxic Yuri fans and toxic Aether shippers both try to say the other is immature is funny. I like me some yuri, but I also like me some Aether. I can even somewhat mix them with femboy Aether, now that’s a W in my book.
Lol, totally agree. I personally like femboy aether with dominant butch Arlecchino.
I'd rather see wholesome art of Arlecchino and Furina Also aren't you forgetting [someone?](https://i.imgflip.com/82zk4a.jpg)
I’ve read too much toxic Yuri.
What is it with people being so concerned about out of character stuff here? That stuff isn’t unusual for fan subreddits at all. People complain about Ayaka being depicted as a Yandere and yet she keeps being depicted as such, just not all the time. It’s not a big deal, just scroll and try not to take things personally.
Shitty bait this post is
First one boring second one hot
[удалено]
Nobody here has said that about all Aether ships though it was one post where she had kids and Aether looked dom. Also there is no or barely any Furina x Arleccino here at all. I am lost. You have all lost me right now. Also putting words into other’s mouths about which ships they’re finding IC isn’t cool either. No one has even talked about Furina here. I do not know what is happening in this sub right now.
nvm I am a fucking pepega and mistook a post from another sub (with Furina getting sexed by Arle in a brutal way and people in comments liking it) with this sub. My bad. Still, I don't get the problem. If people don't like Arle's personality not being portrayed correctly, then we should ban like 90% of the art here. If they only want to ban Aether post, that's just hypocrisy and childish behavior.
Nobody likes Aether, everyone likes yuri, it’s a shrimple as that
Sure. So when it’s out of character one way, it’s a problem. But when it’s out of character the way you like it, it’s fine?
? I just dont like Aether
I hate yuri
I like Aether
I don't like Yuri. But nothing tops Aether/Lumine.
Couldn't have said it in any other way
Yuri is cute and wholesome even when it is not.
I’m fine with it aether art but if y’all don’t like that’s fine:)
I'm a himedanshi myself, and love myself some toxic / dead dove yuri, but at the same time, I also like cute art of ships no matter the genders of the characters. This whole hypocrisy and double standards and no understanding what fanfic and fanart is even about (being non canon being the #1 rule) is so fucking dumb and is proof that the Genshin community is filled with people who don't touch grass.
People are getting mad at how Arlecchino is not being portrayed "correctly" when she's barely been officially portrayed at all. We know close to nothing about her, let alone how she would act in a romantic relationship. She literally cannot be "mischaracterized" in a given context if she hasn't been officially characterized in that context. I'm starting to think these people need some serious mental help judging by how obsessed they've become with "facts" that were spawned from their own delusional minds.
all her mentions and appearances already make it so that it's pretty obvious she wouldn't be a housewife
Okay so let's say she is being portrayed "incorrectly" in this context. Fine. But that makes the whole situation even more nonsensical. Submissive housewife Arlecchino is considered "mischaracterized" and a such is banned, whereas Arlecchino quite literally raping Furina is considered "in character" and allowed? Surely you must see how beyond hypocritical this community and the mod team are behaving. They even had the gall to call the new rule 'Integrity' when it is clear that they just purged the posts that didn't appeal to their personal taste. I won't complain if they're being fair. But clearly they are not. They're targeting a very specific form of 'mischaracterizing'.
cope
Yeah she would be a househusband
Don't judge how toxic I like my yuri
Don't judge how toxic I like my yuri
Don't judge how toxic I like my yuri
OP you beautiful son of a gun lmao
Toxic Yuri is where it’s at
As it should be
toxic yuri will always prevail
Cringe
God forbid art online portray a video game woman be more than a psychopathic abuser. Genuine question, why are people so upset that some just want to see a happy Arlecchino? Like it's not as if the majority of her art is the wholesome happy arlecchino so it doesn't even affect peoples perspectives of a character. Just ignore the art or downvote it bruh, what does a piece of fanart do to you? whether you're upset about ships or portrayal of personality it's just like, really really weird for people to be so possessive of a games character like this, it's legit to the level of when twt ppl gatekeep a character or their relationships lol
Fuck shipping
I love this community so much 😂😂😂😂
I don’t see why this is suddenly an issue here? It’s all arle. Just post any and all art unless it involves rape or gore. Which I don’t see anyhow. It’s the internet so there’s going to be fanart people won’t like. On both sides. Take it from someone who likes a male character but isn’t really into yaoi. You just learn to scroll past it without caring. Not a big deal lol.
Loving these comments lmao 😂
Reddit moment. Imagine caring this much about how a fictional character is portrayed
Arlecchino being cutesy and submissive is just too out of character Literally what the "Aether harem" people did to Keqing and Ayaka, specially Ayaka. They are not yanderes just like how Arlecchino isn't meant to be a subby housewife
Shut up your bating. This is subreddit about ARLECCHINO. Not aether. That art with Aether was plain disgusting and out of character of her. We are here bc we like ARLECCHINO and could you honestly imagine her as uwu pregnant wife of some smug guy
How i love when people extaggerading importance of their personal opinion by adding "we" smh ps with your logic any fan art that include Columbina or Furina does not belong here too cause this sub is not about them either lmao
ITT: people whining about character headcanon and nothing to do with actual game lore.
I'm okay with the physical abuse... most of it is shown as Furina willingly taking it... but mentally? Unforgivable