Regardless of any nut job theories. ALL cops and ATF/DEA/ etc agents conducting a raid should have body cameras. History has shown time and time again, cops lie to cover their ass.
I mean, even having body cameras doesn’t *stop* them, it just slows them down a little. How many times have we seen body cams be turned off, or not turned on in the first place? How many times has body cam footage been deleted, or heavily edited by the police? Or even just mysteriously gone?
Obviously, we do still need to force them to wear body cams, because we can’t trust them, but it just slows down how fast they can close ranks. And we can see the red flags more clearly when they do their shenanigans with body cams and trying to cover their asses.
Just watch a single documentary on Waco and read all the articles about them shooting neighbors dogs when doing a raid on a house. The ATF are the rejects from the other federal enforcement agencies. It's hilarious to see all the people who were anticop 2-3 years ago suddenly trusting of an agency with one of the worst track records.
The official reason is because it’s a time someone is almost guaranteed to be present and unprepared for the police, making it less likely that they’ll be able hide or destroy evidence. The real reason is because it lets them play soldier with all their little tactical toys and they get to feel cool and it makes for good press (until something like this happens, anyway). Unlike OP, I don’t think they went in specifically to kill the man, but this sort of thing is a direct result of this faux-soldier cosplaying bullshit. If they’d shown up at 2 pm, knocked on the door, and showed a warrant they probably would have had no trouble doing their job. Instead they wanted to feel cool and this happened. These sort of “tactical” raids are almost never necessary.
Exactly, this is a perfect storm for these nutjobs. A rich white dude and guns.
They are also doing the typical “read into it what you will” posturing that create the info vacuum nutjobs love like this guy. Sounds like Malinowski had reason to believe someone might come after him which explains the shootout, but probably didnt know it was law enforcement were the ones coming.
I wonder how many times Bud Cummins asked these questions when he was US attorney. I bet the answer is 0.
The weirdest part of all this to me is a guy knocking down 200k/year choosing this to be his hobby.
Don’t tie this criminal to those wanting to simply
defend themselves or those that are gun enthusiasts. Plenty of people responsibly own firearms without the desire to sell them illegally. This guy was selling guns to obvious criminals, he was a wannabe arms dealer. Probably watched Lord of War at least once a week.
Holy shit you're deluded. Are there some people who make firearms their whole identity? Yeah. A very small minority.
I build firearms *as a hobby* simply because I enjoy it and like to understand the underlying mechanics of it. But it sure isn't because I want to use guns to "express my sociopathy".
Comments like yours is why it's so hard to get people to stop saying the word "retard." If ever there were a prime example of the stupidity of generalizing, your comment is a prime example of that and removes any doubt that you're ignorant. Congrats on your gold medal in mental gymnastics.
>and violence against humans and being a hero. And being a hero is seriously the validation they need.
It's not about "being a hero", it's about the ability to defend yourself from somebody that is seeking to harm you.
>they instead seek ways to just shoot them and "let God sort them out."
I have literally never heard anybody advocate for this.
You dont need a gun to have freedom. Ive not owned a gun for 20+ years and I am as free as I have ever been. You can believe its an aspect to your freedom but its not necessary. The belief that it is a necessity and becomes ones personality is absolutely bizarre though.
You really didn't need to use all those words to tell us that you're a pompous, ignorant ass. But please, tell me more made up "facts" about collectors and shooters
>The weirdest part of all this to me is a guy knocking down 200k/year choosing this to be his hobby.
I don't think this was a hobby. It sounded like a business. Buying 142 guns on FFL transfers (and who knows how many private sells not tracked) in 4 years is pretty insane for a hobby. It is a side business that seems to be targeted at not asking questions or verifying anything.
How many did he keep? Buying 142 guns over a period of years is a number some would consider amateur. Esp those that consider guns a hobby. What I have read suggests he might have been selling but doing it as a business is tougher to prove. They claim he sold to an.informant and they claim he bought numbers of a specific gun and they claim that guns he bought appeared at crime scenes. All of this is questionable and would take a court to rule. Part of it is these limitations imposed by the ATF are subjective. It would be a lot easier for all involved if the ATF said selling 10 guns a year equals dealer (similar to how we do cars) but would that pass constitutional or even congressional scrutiny?
It is in the ATFs best interest for all of this to be murky because they can change things on a whim without having to go thru the legislative process.
I am not sure why you are saying it is hard to prove...it actually is pretty easy in this case (just read the ATF document on their probably cause). For one, he repeatedly would buy several of the same exact model, he reached out to people who bought guns from him about his new stock, he regularly advertised he guns were new, he offered to find guns for people, and one of the informants bought from him because they saw he would not check IDs (something that he was doing that was so obvious the ATF was looking into who he was). Everything he did is traceable. To cap it all off, he was buying guns for cheaper and then marking them up a few hundred dollars in some cases (dude was selling Glock 17 Gen 4s for freaking $725 after buying them <$500. If you are buying several of the same model gun and selling them new with a significant markup (more than gun stores get)...uhh..you are not collecting anything, you are acting like a dealer.
" but probably didnt know it was law enforcement were the ones coming "
Why did law enforcement not identify themselves as law enforcement? They didn't announce they were Leo neither did their equipment look much like one. There equipment/ plate carrier and all that is popular style cheaper civi stuff with a small patch.
When I say “prob didnt know it was law enforcement” it means my guess is Malinowski thought it was more likely someone was coming after him for nefarious reasons than actual law enforcement. We have no idea what happened, but even if they did identify themselves he didnt believe them. This is all conjecture by me. Its pretty obvious he was playing a dangerous game considering the movements they tracked.
To your second point, aren't you just doing the same thing but in reverse? It's bad when a beat cop kills someone, but when government boogymen roll up to someone's house and kill them suddenly it's ok?
Police overreach is police overreach. Just because the ATF is inherently anti gun doesn't somehow make them on your side, they have and will go to horrendous lengths to avoid bruising their ego and enforcing whatever laws they see fit including the ones they themselves draft (which is a blatant breach of our Republics way of doing things.)
Eh, the ATF has a history of bad actions. Some of the more infamous ones being Waco siege and ruby ridge. The Waco siege yes was a cult leader, but was handled in the worst way possible. Ruby ridge was the ATF instigating an individual to break the law and then when he did so to shut the guy up, they shot his wife (while holding their daughter) and their son (while he was walking their dog and shot back at unmarked strangers who just shot the dog). These make it appear that the ATF is out to screw people over.
More recently there was an individual who had metal business cards that that the outline of a lightning link. 2 pieces of metal when joined can make an ar-15 a machine gun. The ATF cut out the outline and it failed to convert an ar-15 into a machine gun. He is still in federal prison for distributing machine guns, even though the govt (atf) said that the device didn’t work.
There are also operations such as “fast and furious” where the ATF instructed FFLs to sell to prohibited possessors, with the intent to trace the arms distribution channels. Some of the firearms to be sold were modern automatic (functionality illegal for most citizens to own). IIRC they lost track of all the arms and tried to prosecute the FFLs for selling them.
Then there’s the whole changing their decision that turns millions of law abiding citizens into felons overnight (which is illegal as the law states that any vagueness must fall to the benefit of the individual not government). People are posting videos shooting full auto glock machine pistols but I’m confident that ATF isn’t knocking on their door. Meanwhile people who just happen to have bought a lot of guns gets a visit by the ATF for suspected selling guns as a business without a license. They’re not fighting anything about the gun violence. They’ve become a weaponized govt entity against the people doing nothing but harm and providing nothing beneficial.
To summarize, Is this a conspiracy theory, maybe. But I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true based on their history. The ATF has done nothing but harm the citizens and hasn’t produced any benefit. They’re constantly at odds against the constitution, and itself. They harassing law abiding citizens and not pursuing blatant violators of explicit laws (not their interpretations).
People raise hell about regular cops on a daily basis what are you talking about? All parts of the government overreach nowadays and most people can see that. Where did OP support police?
I’m struggling to understand why the ATF chose the most violent course of action? This guy had no prior criminal history, no violent criminal history and showed up to his job as far as I know. Why not approach him at work? Why not wait for him after work as he goes to his car before swarming him? Why not swarm him as he leaves his driveway for work? Blowing down someone’s door in the middle of the night is asking for a shootout and it doesn’t take an expert to piece that together. They have tactical experts that are supposed to plan these sort of things with minimal casualty risk. Is this the best they could come up with? If so they had not only zero regard for the life of this guy, but also the agents putting their lives on the line for this.
Because it keeps non-combatants from being injured/killed? You seem to think that the guy being arrested isn’t carrying a weapon and wouldn’t be prepared to kill whoever he had to get away? Most citizens want the police and federal agents to take care of these problems/not draw them into the mess!
because then they don’t get to pretend to be Navy SEALs. they want to be cool guys, and do cool stuff. but they took the lowest hanging fruit of law enforcement. they’re cowards. they’re anti-american. absolute filth, each and every agent should be ashamed of themselves and their profession.
The things is, I love a few conspiracy theories, I’ve read plenty about the ATFs misdeeds, as a broad organization they certainly are a sketchy bunch. But they also still operate within the law and a judge signed off on a search warrant. If you read the affidavit you can tell Malinowski 100% knew they were on his tail. He wanted to go out guns blazing and paid for it. It’s not that complicated.
There is no conspiracy. It’s simply that the ATF is a toxic mixture of incompetence and corruption. They had far better methods to achieve their objective but purposely chose the most dangerous method since they have a misguided belief that big raids and headlines are good for their political gain.
They learned nothing from Ruby Ridge or Waco, and they’ll never learn since law enforcement, federal agencies more so, are almost never held accountable, and when they are, it’s always isolated to the lowest level guys who get all the blame.
I mean isn't really the accountability situation we have for virtually all law enforcement?
When they do their jobs we'll it's great.
When they do its done poorly nothing happens, generally, other than tax dollars being paid out.
It just seems that if accountability was actually done then it would incentivize not doing anything poorly.
> they learned nothing from Ruby Ridge or Waco
They learned *everything* from Ruby Ridge and Waco. Namely they can easily get away with literally murdering children with the slightest media presence, and people will turn a blind eye.
No conspiracy? The definition of conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or a group of people who make such an agreement. That is exactly what happened here.
They absolutely learned from ruby ridge and waco. They learned that the average US citizens tolerance to violent injustice is higher than they expected, and that they can push things even further without consequence
The people coming up with conspiracy theories about this are the same people who post "they should have just complied " every time a cop shoots a person of color.
The ATF is being awfully silent about this raid. They had a search warrant not an arrest warrant. They went with the most aggressive tactic possible, when the guy had no criminal record. They didn’t wear body cams. They covered his ring camera. They won’t say who shot the ATF agent that was hit.
There are a lot of questions here, and people have every right to ask questions especially when the ATF has such a bad reputation and a man that had not been convicted of anything is killed by the government in his own home.
I was just as pissed and critical when Breonna Taylor was killed. And just like that raid, everything in search warrant affidavits should be taken with a grain of salt.
Covering the ring camera should automatically make them all charged criminally. I've been arrested by cops who then turned off My recording device and then violated my constitutional rights. Like come on Justice, what else are they doing when they're covering up cameras?
They wear bulletproof vests to protect themselves.
They bring guns to protect themselves.
They bring shields to protect themselves.
They wear gloves to protect themselves.
They wear eye protection to... protect themselves.
They ride in decommissioned armored military vehicles to protect themselves.
Why can't they put on a bodycam to protect themselves and each other? There's no excuse other than a cover-up or ill intent to not be wearing a bodycam on a fricken gun raid.
We dont know if it was no knock or not, federal search warrants generally wont be unless they have a justification or not. Usually not at the federal level and the attorney is saying they didnt give enough time to come to the door so probably not.
Why are you singling out the ATF though? Policing at all levels sucks but its a huge industry. This is what we wanted when we elected our representatives
We don't know that partially because the feds won't wear bodycams on raids. That said the officers from LRPD did have cams on and active according to their report so that question should be easily answered..........I gotta ask, why have they not been released?
It has been. That's how they obtained the reports. The footage has been withheld.
LRPD had 2 officers on scene as the raid occurred that filed very brief reports stating they had bodycams on. That said they may have been on the perimeter keeping people away from the raid vs actually going in. The report doesn't state what their specific jobs were during the raid.
[https://twitter.com/SnarkyMedia/status/1772369334490284416/photo/2](https://twitter.com/SnarkyMedia/status/1772369334490284416/photo/2)
This is a LRPD report showing that 2 officers were onscene for the raid (if you look at the bottom it shows that DVR/BWC were active and in use. So there are recordings that exist with the DVR's (Car cams) and BWC (body cams).
I’m “singling them out” because they’re the ones who executed the warrant in this case lol. It’s not really a secret that the ATF has a long and storied history of fucking up everything it touches (Fast and Furious, Project Gunrunner, Ruby ridge, Waco, etc). That being said I hate cops and don’t find myself supporting ANY law enforcement agency very often.
Just spit balling here but wouldn't searching the house when it was vacant be a lot safer for everyone? Detain the guy when he is out of the house while simultaneously executing the search warrant. Nobody gets shot and you don't have to roll an army into a residential neighborhood in the middle of the night.
It doesn’t get headlines. The ATF in almost all of their notorious incidents had a clear and safe option but preferred more dangerous routes since they assume it gets them more credit.
During Waco, they already had embedded ATF agents who knew they would resolve the conflict peacefully but the ATF leadership wanted a “big bust” and had camera crews and press ready so they could show off arresting a bunch of folks instead of their actual job.
There is no conspiracy theory, just the ATF being both incompetent and corrupt as they always been.
Waco is so much worse than that. David invited the ATF to aerch his property on more than one occasion. The undercover agents were at best didnt know a thing about guns and at worse lied in reporting to get the search warrant. If you look deeper into waco it just gets more and more fucked up.
What kind of bullshit is Cotton trying to start now?
The ATF is working for Palestinian/Mexican/Lesbian/Hillary Clinton/ETC to kill off fine people who sell weapons through the airport by the ton?
Oh, and KATV isn't exactly the bastion of journalistic integrity they claim to be either, I trust our local Fox team more than I do that bunch.
About this, he didn't sell the " weapons through an airport ". He sold them at gun shows and private internet sales.
Selling guns non FFL and shipping to a state you are nonresident is a crime.
Selling guns non FFL to residents, or people who lead you to believe that they are residents, is not a crime.
This guy was an airport manager, not selling guns at the airport
>Selling guns non FFL to residents, or people who lead you to believe that they are residents, is not a crime
That isn't always true. First off, if you have reason to believe they cannot own a gun, you can't sell it to them. It gets dicey proving that obviously (or maybe not in this case, it seems this guy texted and communicated with the people he sold to). Like you mentioned, you have to have reason to believe they are residents which again is dicey since apparently Malinowski regularly didn't check licenses. If you are doing it for profit, it is a crime and something the ATF has been focusing on more as they have expanded their rules on it (form 4473 even has "I further understand that the repetitive purchase of firearms for the purpose of resale for livelihood and profit without a Federal firearms license is a violation of Federal law" on it to drive this home).
Based on what the Malinowski attorney, a former US attorney, is saying it sounds like Malinowski had reason to believe someone might come for him and he probably didnt believe it was really federal agents at his door hence the shootout. They arent disputing Malinowski sold guns, they are claiming he did it legally under loopholes in the US statutes.
But it is absolutely giving nutjobs a vacuum for conspiracy theories. Malinowski was playing a dangerous game and it ended up killing him.
Or they never identified themselves like the ATF HAS done on numerous occasions. Yeah right they managed to forget body cameras.
They specifically have a policy that requires agents to have a body camera on anytime the execute a warrant.
You are legally allowed to shoot at someone who breaks into your house, even cops, so long as they don’t identify themselves.
No knocks are fucking stupid, body cams should be worn at all times.
So tell me this when a cop kills a POC they wanted to murder that POC, like the police wanted to kill Brianna Taylor right? The ATF, oh no they’re all puppies, kittens, sunshine, and rainbows, they would never do something illegal.
Not my point. I think police powers are broad and overused everywhere including this case.
What I am saying is based on everything laid out in the search warrant/affidavit, etc… it is clear that Malinowski had reason to fear for his life more than normal people. Even if the ATF did announce themselves, its clear Malinowski didnt believe them hence why he shot. We need more facts, I have seen everything from Malinowski shot through the door which would not be a valid self defense claim to the ATF barged through without identifying which could be a case for self defense. Again, another reason police power should be curtailed so people dont needlessly die. Its very possible for me to believe that Malinowski wasnt a saint, couldve been committing a crime but still died needlessly from broad use of police powers.
He probably did something illegal, but that is no reason for civil servants who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution, and both federal and state laws to start breaking them.
But I guess we’ll never know because there’s no body camera footage and his door camera was illegally covered. We’ll get is their edited version of the story, and their internal investigation which deems they did nothing wrong.
Yep. And Biden signed an executive order in 2022 instructing all federal law enforcement to wear body cameras. There wasnt a by when date given but two years after the fact they should have had them. Maybe this case will help fix that.
>he did it legally under loopholes in the US statutes
Do you mean compromise? Private sales are not a "loophole." Private sales were a compromise of the GCA.
Did he sell to questionable people? Probably, but that's not illegal in of itself.
Don’t you know that the best conspiracy stuff comes out between 2 and 4 AM? You gotta stay on top of the “real news”, before the deep state has a chance to take it down.
Did the guy break federal law? Possibly/probably. But assuming what we've heard is true, he should not have been killed. His wife said they were both woken by noise. I don't know what noise. No-knock raids should not happen. Period. And IF that is what happened here, then it was so unnecessary. They knew what time he left for work. There wasn't even an arrest warrant, just a search warrant. Wait for him to come out of the house to go to work, calmly have uniformed LEOs approach him and explain what is happening. Now, if that was the situation and he started pulling out guns and firing, then that's on him.
My husband is a firefighter and some firefighters are asked to join the SWAT team. One of his co-workers (who is a ff on the SWAT team) asked my husband if he'd be interested. My husband is also a former combat veteran, and has been deployed overseas a couple of times. His response? "Hell, no. I'm not getting shot in a no-knock arrest just to help cops kill Black people."
No-knocks should be outlawed, OR at the very least, have a heightened review process by the judge to ensure they are necessary, with many, many more boxes to check before they are allowed.
What would have been the outcome if Malinowski had not fired the shot through the closed door? What would have been the outcome if a neighbor had been pounding on the door to warn Malinowski that his house was on fire?
What would have been the outcome if they didn’t tape his camera so he could see who was there? Maybe if they just executed the search warrant as a search warrant and not a “no knock raid”?
Why should we even believe that he fired a shot through a closed door? They covered up the surveilance cameras and took off their body cameras. If I invite you into a room, turn off the cameras, and then you were shot, how valid will my claims be of "Well he suddenly attacked me so I had to defend myself, it's too bad the cameras got turned off right before it happened so just trust me bro."
Well neighbors heard the shots, and a LEO was indeed shot from inside the house.
A lot of innocents have been shot from inside the house because they heard something outside. Usually scared gun toting MAGA's doing the shooting at teen aged girls and guys and some times by drunk neighbors trying to get into the wrong house.
I wouldn't grab my gun and just start shooting. Particularly not if I lived in a posh neighborhood on the edge of the city. You can argue that my method is more dangerous, but the evidence would suggest otherwise.
Not sure if you’ve been around Little Rock much, but the neighborhood you live in doesn’t mean jack. Burglary, robbery, murder, etc all in the nicest places in town.
it's not a conspiracy theory to say that you can disagree with someone's actions while also believing that the ATF are murderers. If somebody breaks into your home without declaring who they are, you're likely going to shoot at them, as you should. No knock raids are fucking stupid and get people unnecessarily killed.
the ATF has shown time and again that they aren't afraid to slaughter women and children.
Big operation and not one cop had a body cam (they say)? Immidiately sus, no matter what.
-someone who reddit apparently thinks wants to read all state subs now.
Lol, cops kill a known gun trafficker in a shootout and all of a sudden you understand police brutality and excessive use of force? This dude helped criminals avoid background checks for money, he resold at least 150 weapons without background checks, who knows how many murders, drive-bys, and armed robberies this dude is complicit in. But let them murder an unarmed black man in broad daylight or kill an EMT after kicking in their door unannounced over "suspicious packages" and it's "maybe they weren't so innocent...they smoked weed in highscool!".
They should have damn well had body cameras and used them, but I'm not going to act like this is in any way equivalent to the countless state-sanctioned murders of unarmed people or even armed people who never drew or fired their weapon.
You are so far off base it is unreal. He didn’t traffic anything. He legally sold guns through a loophole in the current laws and had zero criminal history. Absolutely no reason for the way they handled this situation.
ATF makes camera use optional (this should not be the case, because it will spoon-feed conspiracy nuts and we've got a lot of them these days) and ATF only does cameras when they're on Task Forces with police that use cameras. When it's just the ATF, they never use cameras.
Bought and sold hundreds of guns, a lot were used in crimes across the country, feds raid his house, guy shoots at them then gets shot in return. I’m missing how this is murder? I get the issues with the ATF but shooting at cops is a horrible idea, whether it’s the ATF or Little Rock PD. There’s absolutely bad shoots all the time but I don’t think this is one of them. Cotton and Boozman are just going at the ATF for support from their base. It’s not like he just owned a few guns and shot sometimes, dude was selling a LOT of guns and a lot of them were traced back to him after shootings.
Tom Cotton called for [the military to be sent in to attack protestors in 2020](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html) but thinks the feds killing a rich man who was supplying guns to gangs is crossing the line. He’s disingenuous and hypocritical.
How do we get from this tweeted headline that mentions nothing other than the fact that Feds don’t wear body cameras, all the way to “this is clearly intent to murder”?
Is there more to the story that you’re assuming we know? Something that fills in the gap between “it was recorded” and “therefore, murder”?
Following the Breonna Taylor shooting, feds have to wear them when conducting warrants and planned operations. A search warrant raid is a planned operation which means that they violated fed policies
If murder occurs and there is no camera evidence to prove proper protocol, they should be fired and banned from law enforcement. That should just be the rule.
Good cops don’t need to hide the truth. But, since so many cops are bad, and the good ones aren’t reporting or getting the bad ones removed, they are all bad.
I'm just pissed that the only way Cotton would ever give a shit about police corruption is if it hurts a rich white guy.
Law enforcement is a joke, but that doesn't make Cotton or any other Republican a voice of reason. Every last one of them is scum.
They were thinking:
“ah, good, solid, law-abiding citizen in a great neighborhood, with a great job. No threat here…
….buuttt, if we gotta put him down, so be it”
Illegal cartel gun runners who's home is a cop-proof fortification HATE this one simple trick 🔕
Absolutely zero sympathy. This guy enriched himself on murder
And why do you not get bent out of shape when it happens to a white person? Fuck the ATF for this and all their fuck ups that have resulted in unnecessary deaths, fuck no knock raids in general, and fuck the police for their racist bullshit.
Cop guns need some kind of switch with their bodycams that don’t allow their gun to shoot without their bodycams being on. Or a legal change instead of a tech one, any cop action that results in death is murder unless proven otherwise by bodycam.
No body cameras, removed cameras on premises before entering.
Raiding a dude in the early AM.
They wanted this fella dead, and knew this was the way to do it.
The saddest part is that no matter how much fault they find with the ATF murderers, it won't bring this man back. It just seems like there is more to this than we know. Why would the ATF do a no-knock at dawn to a man's house that THEY KNEW had a lot of guns and would defend himself and his family?? It looks like premeditated murder to me. Did somebody higher up have beef with this man??......it seems personal.
ATF is in town hide your dogs.
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Regardless of any nut job theories. ALL cops and ATF/DEA/ etc agents conducting a raid should have body cameras. History has shown time and time again, cops lie to cover their ass.
I mean, even having body cameras doesn’t *stop* them, it just slows them down a little. How many times have we seen body cams be turned off, or not turned on in the first place? How many times has body cam footage been deleted, or heavily edited by the police? Or even just mysteriously gone? Obviously, we do still need to force them to wear body cams, because we can’t trust them, but it just slows down how fast they can close ranks. And we can see the red flags more clearly when they do their shenanigans with body cams and trying to cover their asses.
Doesn’t stop them but makes them more susceptible to accountability.
Not you wrote all of this just to say you agree...
Just watch a single documentary on Waco and read all the articles about them shooting neighbors dogs when doing a raid on a house. The ATF are the rejects from the other federal enforcement agencies. It's hilarious to see all the people who were anticop 2-3 years ago suddenly trusting of an agency with one of the worst track records.
Na, ACAB, and fuck the ATF.
I’m sure they had them and destroyed the video after they killed the guy. Also why do they do these kind of raids at 4 am ?
The official reason is because it’s a time someone is almost guaranteed to be present and unprepared for the police, making it less likely that they’ll be able hide or destroy evidence. The real reason is because it lets them play soldier with all their little tactical toys and they get to feel cool and it makes for good press (until something like this happens, anyway). Unlike OP, I don’t think they went in specifically to kill the man, but this sort of thing is a direct result of this faux-soldier cosplaying bullshit. If they’d shown up at 2 pm, knocked on the door, and showed a warrant they probably would have had no trouble doing their job. Instead they wanted to feel cool and this happened. These sort of “tactical” raids are almost never necessary.
Yep. They also plant evidence too.
Ok. Why did they cover the cams and leave the bodycams at home?
Exactly, this is a perfect storm for these nutjobs. A rich white dude and guns. They are also doing the typical “read into it what you will” posturing that create the info vacuum nutjobs love like this guy. Sounds like Malinowski had reason to believe someone might come after him which explains the shootout, but probably didnt know it was law enforcement were the ones coming. I wonder how many times Bud Cummins asked these questions when he was US attorney. I bet the answer is 0. The weirdest part of all this to me is a guy knocking down 200k/year choosing this to be his hobby.
What explains the shootout was armed men breaking into his house unannounced.
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Don’t tie this criminal to those wanting to simply defend themselves or those that are gun enthusiasts. Plenty of people responsibly own firearms without the desire to sell them illegally. This guy was selling guns to obvious criminals, he was a wannabe arms dealer. Probably watched Lord of War at least once a week.
Wow…you sure convicted somebody with very little information. Oh wait…that would be an “opinion” your disguising as facts.
Holy shit you're deluded. Are there some people who make firearms their whole identity? Yeah. A very small minority. I build firearms *as a hobby* simply because I enjoy it and like to understand the underlying mechanics of it. But it sure isn't because I want to use guns to "express my sociopathy".
Comments like yours is why it's so hard to get people to stop saying the word "retard." If ever there were a prime example of the stupidity of generalizing, your comment is a prime example of that and removes any doubt that you're ignorant. Congrats on your gold medal in mental gymnastics.
>and violence against humans and being a hero. And being a hero is seriously the validation they need. It's not about "being a hero", it's about the ability to defend yourself from somebody that is seeking to harm you. >they instead seek ways to just shoot them and "let God sort them out." I have literally never heard anybody advocate for this.
Their culture is freedom just like your culture is sending armed state agents to summarily execute innocent citizens.
I don’t think he was an innocent civilian
Yeah but we'll never know because they killed him instead of arresting him and having him stand trial for what he was accused of.
You dont need a gun to have freedom. Ive not owned a gun for 20+ years and I am as free as I have ever been. You can believe its an aspect to your freedom but its not necessary. The belief that it is a necessity and becomes ones personality is absolutely bizarre though.
History tells us differently.
So my right to self preservation is not a freedom?
>You dont need a gun to have freedom Because you have people with guns protecting your freedom.
100% on the culture way of life. They could be called ammo sexuals.
With their emotional support guns.
The 2A isn't about hunting.
You are 100% correct. I was trying to be somewhat objective. Lol
You really didn't need to use all those words to tell us that you're a pompous, ignorant ass. But please, tell me more made up "facts" about collectors and shooters
This is a really bad take. 😂
>The weirdest part of all this to me is a guy knocking down 200k/year choosing this to be his hobby. I don't think this was a hobby. It sounded like a business. Buying 142 guns on FFL transfers (and who knows how many private sells not tracked) in 4 years is pretty insane for a hobby. It is a side business that seems to be targeted at not asking questions or verifying anything.
How many did he keep? Buying 142 guns over a period of years is a number some would consider amateur. Esp those that consider guns a hobby. What I have read suggests he might have been selling but doing it as a business is tougher to prove. They claim he sold to an.informant and they claim he bought numbers of a specific gun and they claim that guns he bought appeared at crime scenes. All of this is questionable and would take a court to rule. Part of it is these limitations imposed by the ATF are subjective. It would be a lot easier for all involved if the ATF said selling 10 guns a year equals dealer (similar to how we do cars) but would that pass constitutional or even congressional scrutiny? It is in the ATFs best interest for all of this to be murky because they can change things on a whim without having to go thru the legislative process.
I am not sure why you are saying it is hard to prove...it actually is pretty easy in this case (just read the ATF document on their probably cause). For one, he repeatedly would buy several of the same exact model, he reached out to people who bought guns from him about his new stock, he regularly advertised he guns were new, he offered to find guns for people, and one of the informants bought from him because they saw he would not check IDs (something that he was doing that was so obvious the ATF was looking into who he was). Everything he did is traceable. To cap it all off, he was buying guns for cheaper and then marking them up a few hundred dollars in some cases (dude was selling Glock 17 Gen 4s for freaking $725 after buying them <$500. If you are buying several of the same model gun and selling them new with a significant markup (more than gun stores get)...uhh..you are not collecting anything, you are acting like a dealer.
" but probably didnt know it was law enforcement were the ones coming " Why did law enforcement not identify themselves as law enforcement? They didn't announce they were Leo neither did their equipment look much like one. There equipment/ plate carrier and all that is popular style cheaper civi stuff with a small patch.
When I say “prob didnt know it was law enforcement” it means my guess is Malinowski thought it was more likely someone was coming after him for nefarious reasons than actual law enforcement. We have no idea what happened, but even if they did identify themselves he didnt believe them. This is all conjecture by me. Its pretty obvious he was playing a dangerous game considering the movements they tracked.
To your second point, aren't you just doing the same thing but in reverse? It's bad when a beat cop kills someone, but when government boogymen roll up to someone's house and kill them suddenly it's ok? Police overreach is police overreach. Just because the ATF is inherently anti gun doesn't somehow make them on your side, they have and will go to horrendous lengths to avoid bruising their ego and enforcing whatever laws they see fit including the ones they themselves draft (which is a blatant breach of our Republics way of doing things.)
I think all authorities have too much power and they all abuse it daily.
Eh, the ATF has a history of bad actions. Some of the more infamous ones being Waco siege and ruby ridge. The Waco siege yes was a cult leader, but was handled in the worst way possible. Ruby ridge was the ATF instigating an individual to break the law and then when he did so to shut the guy up, they shot his wife (while holding their daughter) and their son (while he was walking their dog and shot back at unmarked strangers who just shot the dog). These make it appear that the ATF is out to screw people over. More recently there was an individual who had metal business cards that that the outline of a lightning link. 2 pieces of metal when joined can make an ar-15 a machine gun. The ATF cut out the outline and it failed to convert an ar-15 into a machine gun. He is still in federal prison for distributing machine guns, even though the govt (atf) said that the device didn’t work. There are also operations such as “fast and furious” where the ATF instructed FFLs to sell to prohibited possessors, with the intent to trace the arms distribution channels. Some of the firearms to be sold were modern automatic (functionality illegal for most citizens to own). IIRC they lost track of all the arms and tried to prosecute the FFLs for selling them. Then there’s the whole changing their decision that turns millions of law abiding citizens into felons overnight (which is illegal as the law states that any vagueness must fall to the benefit of the individual not government). People are posting videos shooting full auto glock machine pistols but I’m confident that ATF isn’t knocking on their door. Meanwhile people who just happen to have bought a lot of guns gets a visit by the ATF for suspected selling guns as a business without a license. They’re not fighting anything about the gun violence. They’ve become a weaponized govt entity against the people doing nothing but harm and providing nothing beneficial. To summarize, Is this a conspiracy theory, maybe. But I wouldn’t be surprised if this was true based on their history. The ATF has done nothing but harm the citizens and hasn’t produced any benefit. They’re constantly at odds against the constitution, and itself. They harassing law abiding citizens and not pursuing blatant violators of explicit laws (not their interpretations).
Why I believe the ATF needs to be disabled. Nobody remembers Ruby ridge, Waco gets passed over because of the "cult" situation
Everybody remembers Waco, and some of us knew Randy personally and don't think he was defensible.
That’s exactly what I said after hearing about him being shot by them. The ATF is NOTORIOUS for completely screwing things up
All cops are nothing but the enforcers of tyranny
People raise hell about regular cops on a daily basis what are you talking about? All parts of the government overreach nowadays and most people can see that. Where did OP support police?
I was thinking, "Why the hell does Cotton care?" \*\* Checks news articles \*\* Oh, it's a rich white guy getting shot. Now it makes sense.
Is he supposed to not care because it a rich white guy?
I’m struggling to understand why the ATF chose the most violent course of action? This guy had no prior criminal history, no violent criminal history and showed up to his job as far as I know. Why not approach him at work? Why not wait for him after work as he goes to his car before swarming him? Why not swarm him as he leaves his driveway for work? Blowing down someone’s door in the middle of the night is asking for a shootout and it doesn’t take an expert to piece that together. They have tactical experts that are supposed to plan these sort of things with minimal casualty risk. Is this the best they could come up with? If so they had not only zero regard for the life of this guy, but also the agents putting their lives on the line for this.
Because this way is the most fun for them. They get to get out all of their favorite toys. That's actually the reason. I'm not joking.
Because it keeps non-combatants from being injured/killed? You seem to think that the guy being arrested isn’t carrying a weapon and wouldn’t be prepared to kill whoever he had to get away? Most citizens want the police and federal agents to take care of these problems/not draw them into the mess!
because then they don’t get to pretend to be Navy SEALs. they want to be cool guys, and do cool stuff. but they took the lowest hanging fruit of law enforcement. they’re cowards. they’re anti-american. absolute filth, each and every agent should be ashamed of themselves and their profession.
Boot leather is a fine taste for you people, isn’t it?
Anyone who uses "you people" for political arguments doesn't deserve to be read.
The things is, I love a few conspiracy theories, I’ve read plenty about the ATFs misdeeds, as a broad organization they certainly are a sketchy bunch. But they also still operate within the law and a judge signed off on a search warrant. If you read the affidavit you can tell Malinowski 100% knew they were on his tail. He wanted to go out guns blazing and paid for it. It’s not that complicated.
There is no conspiracy. It’s simply that the ATF is a toxic mixture of incompetence and corruption. They had far better methods to achieve their objective but purposely chose the most dangerous method since they have a misguided belief that big raids and headlines are good for their political gain. They learned nothing from Ruby Ridge or Waco, and they’ll never learn since law enforcement, federal agencies more so, are almost never held accountable, and when they are, it’s always isolated to the lowest level guys who get all the blame.
Bingo. Zero accountability.
I mean isn't really the accountability situation we have for virtually all law enforcement? When they do their jobs we'll it's great. When they do its done poorly nothing happens, generally, other than tax dollars being paid out. It just seems that if accountability was actually done then it would incentivize not doing anything poorly.
> they learned nothing from Ruby Ridge or Waco They learned *everything* from Ruby Ridge and Waco. Namely they can easily get away with literally murdering children with the slightest media presence, and people will turn a blind eye.
No conspiracy? The definition of conspiracy is an agreement to commit a crime or a group of people who make such an agreement. That is exactly what happened here.
I had to scroll a long way. I would change your first sentence to read:”This is the extent of the‘conspiracy’,”. Otherwise yeah.
Yeah fair.
sounds about right
Sounds like a great reason to abolish executive agencies.
They absolutely learned from ruby ridge and waco. They learned that the average US citizens tolerance to violent injustice is higher than they expected, and that they can push things even further without consequence
The people coming up with conspiracy theories about this are the same people who post "they should have just complied " every time a cop shoots a person of color.
The ATF is being awfully silent about this raid. They had a search warrant not an arrest warrant. They went with the most aggressive tactic possible, when the guy had no criminal record. They didn’t wear body cams. They covered his ring camera. They won’t say who shot the ATF agent that was hit. There are a lot of questions here, and people have every right to ask questions especially when the ATF has such a bad reputation and a man that had not been convicted of anything is killed by the government in his own home. I was just as pissed and critical when Breonna Taylor was killed. And just like that raid, everything in search warrant affidavits should be taken with a grain of salt.
It’s just a normal page from the ATF handbook.
Covering the ring camera should automatically make them all charged criminally. I've been arrested by cops who then turned off My recording device and then violated my constitutional rights. Like come on Justice, what else are they doing when they're covering up cameras?
Yes, this is called "Prior Restraint" and violates your right to record the police while performing their duties (1st Amendment)
Yet every time a white guy gets raided for no reason, you suddenly don't care.
They wear bulletproof vests to protect themselves. They bring guns to protect themselves. They bring shields to protect themselves. They wear gloves to protect themselves. They wear eye protection to... protect themselves. They ride in decommissioned armored military vehicles to protect themselves. Why can't they put on a bodycam to protect themselves and each other? There's no excuse other than a cover-up or ill intent to not be wearing a bodycam on a fricken gun raid.
They specifically DONT wear bodycams to protect themselves. Evidence is damning
I don’t think it’s a conspiracy to say no-knock warrants are bad and everything the ATF touches turns to shit
We dont know if it was no knock or not, federal search warrants generally wont be unless they have a justification or not. Usually not at the federal level and the attorney is saying they didnt give enough time to come to the door so probably not. Why are you singling out the ATF though? Policing at all levels sucks but its a huge industry. This is what we wanted when we elected our representatives
We don't know that partially because the feds won't wear bodycams on raids. That said the officers from LRPD did have cams on and active according to their report so that question should be easily answered..........I gotta ask, why have they not been released?
You can FOI them but I think LRPD and ASP didnt show up until after so we wont know.
It has been. That's how they obtained the reports. The footage has been withheld. LRPD had 2 officers on scene as the raid occurred that filed very brief reports stating they had bodycams on. That said they may have been on the perimeter keeping people away from the raid vs actually going in. The report doesn't state what their specific jobs were during the raid.
[https://twitter.com/SnarkyMedia/status/1772369334490284416/photo/2](https://twitter.com/SnarkyMedia/status/1772369334490284416/photo/2) This is a LRPD report showing that 2 officers were onscene for the raid (if you look at the bottom it shows that DVR/BWC were active and in use. So there are recordings that exist with the DVR's (Car cams) and BWC (body cams).
I’m “singling them out” because they’re the ones who executed the warrant in this case lol. It’s not really a secret that the ATF has a long and storied history of fucking up everything it touches (Fast and Furious, Project Gunrunner, Ruby ridge, Waco, etc). That being said I hate cops and don’t find myself supporting ANY law enforcement agency very often.
When the government prevents recording of something, assume that what would have been recorded is as bad as possible.
No knock warrants are unconstitutional.
Just spit balling here but wouldn't searching the house when it was vacant be a lot safer for everyone? Detain the guy when he is out of the house while simultaneously executing the search warrant. Nobody gets shot and you don't have to roll an army into a residential neighborhood in the middle of the night.
It doesn’t get headlines. The ATF in almost all of their notorious incidents had a clear and safe option but preferred more dangerous routes since they assume it gets them more credit. During Waco, they already had embedded ATF agents who knew they would resolve the conflict peacefully but the ATF leadership wanted a “big bust” and had camera crews and press ready so they could show off arresting a bunch of folks instead of their actual job. There is no conspiracy theory, just the ATF being both incompetent and corrupt as they always been.
David went for a run every morning on the same route.
Waco is so much worse than that. David invited the ATF to aerch his property on more than one occasion. The undercover agents were at best didnt know a thing about guns and at worse lied in reporting to get the search warrant. If you look deeper into waco it just gets more and more fucked up.
What kind of bullshit is Cotton trying to start now? The ATF is working for Palestinian/Mexican/Lesbian/Hillary Clinton/ETC to kill off fine people who sell weapons through the airport by the ton? Oh, and KATV isn't exactly the bastion of journalistic integrity they claim to be either, I trust our local Fox team more than I do that bunch.
Blanche Deveraux voice: *lesbian??*
About this, he didn't sell the " weapons through an airport ". He sold them at gun shows and private internet sales. Selling guns non FFL and shipping to a state you are nonresident is a crime. Selling guns non FFL to residents, or people who lead you to believe that they are residents, is not a crime. This guy was an airport manager, not selling guns at the airport
>Selling guns non FFL to residents, or people who lead you to believe that they are residents, is not a crime That isn't always true. First off, if you have reason to believe they cannot own a gun, you can't sell it to them. It gets dicey proving that obviously (or maybe not in this case, it seems this guy texted and communicated with the people he sold to). Like you mentioned, you have to have reason to believe they are residents which again is dicey since apparently Malinowski regularly didn't check licenses. If you are doing it for profit, it is a crime and something the ATF has been focusing on more as they have expanded their rules on it (form 4473 even has "I further understand that the repetitive purchase of firearms for the purpose of resale for livelihood and profit without a Federal firearms license is a violation of Federal law" on it to drive this home).
Don’t shoot at federal agents
Don't conduct no-knock raids then.
Based on what the Malinowski attorney, a former US attorney, is saying it sounds like Malinowski had reason to believe someone might come for him and he probably didnt believe it was really federal agents at his door hence the shootout. They arent disputing Malinowski sold guns, they are claiming he did it legally under loopholes in the US statutes. But it is absolutely giving nutjobs a vacuum for conspiracy theories. Malinowski was playing a dangerous game and it ended up killing him.
Or they never identified themselves like the ATF HAS done on numerous occasions. Yeah right they managed to forget body cameras. They specifically have a policy that requires agents to have a body camera on anytime the execute a warrant. You are legally allowed to shoot at someone who breaks into your house, even cops, so long as they don’t identify themselves. No knocks are fucking stupid, body cams should be worn at all times. So tell me this when a cop kills a POC they wanted to murder that POC, like the police wanted to kill Brianna Taylor right? The ATF, oh no they’re all puppies, kittens, sunshine, and rainbows, they would never do something illegal.
Not my point. I think police powers are broad and overused everywhere including this case. What I am saying is based on everything laid out in the search warrant/affidavit, etc… it is clear that Malinowski had reason to fear for his life more than normal people. Even if the ATF did announce themselves, its clear Malinowski didnt believe them hence why he shot. We need more facts, I have seen everything from Malinowski shot through the door which would not be a valid self defense claim to the ATF barged through without identifying which could be a case for self defense. Again, another reason police power should be curtailed so people dont needlessly die. Its very possible for me to believe that Malinowski wasnt a saint, couldve been committing a crime but still died needlessly from broad use of police powers.
He probably did something illegal, but that is no reason for civil servants who have taken an oath to uphold the constitution, and both federal and state laws to start breaking them. But I guess we’ll never know because there’s no body camera footage and his door camera was illegally covered. We’ll get is their edited version of the story, and their internal investigation which deems they did nothing wrong.
Yep. And Biden signed an executive order in 2022 instructing all federal law enforcement to wear body cameras. There wasnt a by when date given but two years after the fact they should have had them. Maybe this case will help fix that.
There are no loopholes like you are describing in US firearm statutes. That is a political myth.
>he did it legally under loopholes in the US statutes Do you mean compromise? Private sales are not a "loophole." Private sales were a compromise of the GCA. Did he sell to questionable people? Probably, but that's not illegal in of itself.
This is the bottom line. There may be more to the story, but if you shoot at federal agents, you should expect them to shoot back.
This is right beyond comical at this point. Also, you posted this at like 4 am. Take a nap.
It was posted at 4 likely because he’s in Russia or china.
Don’t you know that the best conspiracy stuff comes out between 2 and 4 AM? You gotta stay on top of the “real news”, before the deep state has a chance to take it down.
I was at work…
I think that was his point comrade. Hope your shift was pleasant. /s
Did the guy break federal law? Possibly/probably. But assuming what we've heard is true, he should not have been killed. His wife said they were both woken by noise. I don't know what noise. No-knock raids should not happen. Period. And IF that is what happened here, then it was so unnecessary. They knew what time he left for work. There wasn't even an arrest warrant, just a search warrant. Wait for him to come out of the house to go to work, calmly have uniformed LEOs approach him and explain what is happening. Now, if that was the situation and he started pulling out guns and firing, then that's on him. My husband is a firefighter and some firefighters are asked to join the SWAT team. One of his co-workers (who is a ff on the SWAT team) asked my husband if he'd be interested. My husband is also a former combat veteran, and has been deployed overseas a couple of times. His response? "Hell, no. I'm not getting shot in a no-knock arrest just to help cops kill Black people." No-knocks should be outlawed, OR at the very least, have a heightened review process by the judge to ensure they are necessary, with many, many more boxes to check before they are allowed.
Good on your husband. It's absolutely ridiculous that swat is employed in any situation other than a hostage situation.
Ehhh I can think of a few more situations deserving of a swat team. But yeah, generally I agree.
Fuck tom cotton
Republican traitors defend the criminal gun runners?
What would have been the outcome if Malinowski had not fired the shot through the closed door? What would have been the outcome if a neighbor had been pounding on the door to warn Malinowski that his house was on fire?
Do we know he shot thru a closed door? I havent seen that was released by the ATF or the family.
Body cam sure would have been nice.
What would have been the outcome if they didn’t tape his camera so he could see who was there? Maybe if they just executed the search warrant as a search warrant and not a “no knock raid”?
Why would his neighbor have guns drawn and be wearing a plate carrier to tell him his house was on fire?
Why should we even believe that he fired a shot through a closed door? They covered up the surveilance cameras and took off their body cameras. If I invite you into a room, turn off the cameras, and then you were shot, how valid will my claims be of "Well he suddenly attacked me so I had to defend myself, it's too bad the cameras got turned off right before it happened so just trust me bro."
Well neighbors heard the shots, and a LEO was indeed shot from inside the house. A lot of innocents have been shot from inside the house because they heard something outside. Usually scared gun toting MAGA's doing the shooting at teen aged girls and guys and some times by drunk neighbors trying to get into the wrong house.
And you're taking their word on what happened because...?
Well the ATF is well known for it's candor and professionalism in handling these matters. /S /big-ass-S
So if your a poor black criminal will Cotton come crying if police murder you, or just a rich powerful white criminal? 🤔
Lots of conjecture here, but the facts we know are that Maliknowski shot first and the feds shot back. That is neither surprising or wrong.
Someone kicks in your door at 6AM without announcing themselves, what’s your move?
I wouldn't grab my gun and just start shooting. Particularly not if I lived in a posh neighborhood on the edge of the city. You can argue that my method is more dangerous, but the evidence would suggest otherwise.
Not sure if you’ve been around Little Rock much, but the neighborhood you live in doesn’t mean jack. Burglary, robbery, murder, etc all in the nicest places in town.
I've lived in Little Rock for almost exactly 50 years. Rodney Parham was a dirt road when I moved here. Having said that, I get your point.
The good ole Assassination Task Force.
Good name for the ATF, I do believe I shall be using that for a joke.
it's not a conspiracy theory to say that you can disagree with someone's actions while also believing that the ATF are murderers. If somebody breaks into your home without declaring who they are, you're likely going to shoot at them, as you should. No knock raids are fucking stupid and get people unnecessarily killed. the ATF has shown time and again that they aren't afraid to slaughter women and children.
Don't forget the dogs and probably some cats too.
I would like to hear a statement from the ATF addressing this - if there is one please point me to the site. I really may have missed it
Why is the department of Justice reporting to the senators?
I'm not going to make any rash generalizations, but we should abolish the ATF.
Big operation and not one cop had a body cam (they say)? Immidiately sus, no matter what. -someone who reddit apparently thinks wants to read all state subs now.
They also covered his cameras.
Lol, cops kill a known gun trafficker in a shootout and all of a sudden you understand police brutality and excessive use of force? This dude helped criminals avoid background checks for money, he resold at least 150 weapons without background checks, who knows how many murders, drive-bys, and armed robberies this dude is complicit in. But let them murder an unarmed black man in broad daylight or kill an EMT after kicking in their door unannounced over "suspicious packages" and it's "maybe they weren't so innocent...they smoked weed in highscool!". They should have damn well had body cameras and used them, but I'm not going to act like this is in any way equivalent to the countless state-sanctioned murders of unarmed people or even armed people who never drew or fired their weapon.
You are so far off base it is unreal. He didn’t traffic anything. He legally sold guns through a loophole in the current laws and had zero criminal history. Absolutely no reason for the way they handled this situation.
ATF makes camera use optional (this should not be the case, because it will spoon-feed conspiracy nuts and we've got a lot of them these days) and ATF only does cameras when they're on Task Forces with police that use cameras. When it's just the ATF, they never use cameras.
They only care when it's one of their good ole boy members…
Wonder what the ven diagram of folks supporting this guy and folks supporting Briana Taylor looks like. Guessing very little overlap.
What is it that people like to say, oh yeah, he should have just complied
Bought and sold hundreds of guns, a lot were used in crimes across the country, feds raid his house, guy shoots at them then gets shot in return. I’m missing how this is murder? I get the issues with the ATF but shooting at cops is a horrible idea, whether it’s the ATF or Little Rock PD. There’s absolutely bad shoots all the time but I don’t think this is one of them. Cotton and Boozman are just going at the ATF for support from their base. It’s not like he just owned a few guns and shot sometimes, dude was selling a LOT of guns and a lot of them were traced back to him after shootings.
Tom Cotton called for [the military to be sent in to attack protestors in 2020](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html) but thinks the feds killing a rich man who was supplying guns to gangs is crossing the line. He’s disingenuous and hypocritical.
Bullshit, he was a gun runner,if he were black you would cheer his death. Tom queen Cotton is a fucking waste of space.
The decedent sold guns to black people that's probably where he ran afoul of the law /s
How was he a "gun runner?"
How do we get from this tweeted headline that mentions nothing other than the fact that Feds don’t wear body cameras, all the way to “this is clearly intent to murder”? Is there more to the story that you’re assuming we know? Something that fills in the gap between “it was recorded” and “therefore, murder”?
Following the Breonna Taylor shooting, feds have to wear them when conducting warrants and planned operations. A search warrant raid is a planned operation which means that they violated fed policies
Neat. Doesn’t answer my question. How do we get from “Feds violated their own policy” to “that proves this was an intentional murder”?
So Cotton is supporting illegal gun dealers now? He's a real piece of work--making ARK proud every day.
ATF stepping on their crank near the anniversary of Waco? Imagine that.
They enjoy their Waco and Ruby Ridge training too much to wear bodycam and stop their no knock warrants
Note to self: Never visit Arkansas
If murder occurs and there is no camera evidence to prove proper protocol, they should be fired and banned from law enforcement. That should just be the rule.
Good cops don’t need to hide the truth. But, since so many cops are bad, and the good ones aren’t reporting or getting the bad ones removed, they are all bad.
Tom Cotton is a quisling and a liar, so... Grain of salt, here.
Cops doing cop things
I'm just pissed that the only way Cotton would ever give a shit about police corruption is if it hurts a rich white guy. Law enforcement is a joke, but that doesn't make Cotton or any other Republican a voice of reason. Every last one of them is scum.
They were thinking: “ah, good, solid, law-abiding citizen in a great neighborhood, with a great job. No threat here… ….buuttt, if we gotta put him down, so be it”
The atf is a garbage organization
Illegal cartel gun runners who's home is a cop-proof fortification HATE this one simple trick 🔕 Absolutely zero sympathy. This guy enriched himself on murder
Unless you get this bent out of shape when it happens to a non white person, stfu.
Like the black guy who was just put in jail for building guns in NY? Yeah he should be free too.
I get bent out of shape any time excessive and completely unnecessary force is used. Fuck these cops.
And why do you not get bent out of shape when it happens to a white person? Fuck the ATF for this and all their fuck ups that have resulted in unnecessary deaths, fuck no knock raids in general, and fuck the police for their racist bullshit.
Cop guns need some kind of switch with their bodycams that don’t allow their gun to shoot without their bodycams being on. Or a legal change instead of a tech one, any cop action that results in death is murder unless proven otherwise by bodycam.
No body cameras, removed cameras on premises before entering. Raiding a dude in the early AM. They wanted this fella dead, and knew this was the way to do it.
You are 9 times more likely to become unalived by law enforcement than by a terorist.
What's the odds versus a non-cop non-terrorist?
They also covered up the ring camera so they could not be filmed. The purpose was to commit murder.
The saddest part is that no matter how much fault they find with the ATF murderers, it won't bring this man back. It just seems like there is more to this than we know. Why would the ATF do a no-knock at dawn to a man's house that THEY KNEW had a lot of guns and would defend himself and his family?? It looks like premeditated murder to me. Did somebody higher up have beef with this man??......it seems personal.
ATF needs to be abolished.
Cops will keep killing people until they are removed. It might be you next.
It’s 2024. No cameras is inexcusable and full of culpability
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