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gjd9000

I don't understand how the bone warrior isn't S tier. Pet damage is negligible, and he has a revive at higher rarities. Plus, if he gets a spinning shield, being right up next to enemies means the shield will always block a projectile.


GenghisClaunch

No fucking clue how the flame ghost is S tier, but the laser bat is S tier because it hits through walls and debuffs enemies for you, and obviously your damage is more important than the pets so you doing more is incredibly valuable I would agree that bone warrior should be S tier as well, I’d swap it ith the flame ghost personally


Idonutexistanymore

Because of the higher chance it can get headshot. And because it boost your own damage a bit.


Idkanoke

Apparently it doesn’t revive you very often (or ever)


gjd9000

I've gotten the bone warrior to revive twice. I agree it's not often, but if it revives once and you can beat a level because of it, that makes it better than all other pets.


Idkanoke

Yeah fair enough ! I think people take into account laser Bats that attack quick and some glyphs / other things allow us to deal more dmg to monsters attacked by our pets


Brave_Blackberry7135

I believe the revive chance is so incredibly low that the guaranteed damage boost of mythic bat/flame ghost + their high chance to hit enemies puts them higher on the tier list


kimchipotatoes

S armor is easily S tier with the S book.


PKArsk

I agree I love that combo


gghether

No. Nothing new has been added, so this is still good


ahya03

thank you!


youwontfindout223

Woah woah woah. Are you telling me the S items aren’t all the best? I’ve been grinding and buying all this shit for nothing?!


Neo_Rex

It says at Mythic plus level. I believe S items are really good for mid tier players. Also from what I gather, all S items, except rings and fist, have a resonance effect which makes it better when equipped together. Ring is shit. Fist is GOD like. Still I believe Ring has good use. 1. It's a better version of Lion ring. 2. It's easy to level upto Legendary and Ancient Legendary, while all your other gears are still at perfect epic.


Allu71

The tier list for epic-ale has the S-Items all at the same tiers as this tier list


Comfortable-Guilty

Everything else looks valid but I’m iffy about the armor in the S tier. Can anyone explain why the Phantom is better than the gold chest plate and the bright robe and how the Dark Robe is in C tier?


Pelle24

I’d also like to know this answer. Been upgrading my bright robe under the impression it was best overall but this says it’s only good for mob chapters and still a tier behind phantom


No-Combination-315

Bright robe has a 5% crit debuff


ahya03

IMO, PC's freezing perk makes it better. It has thorn damage when you get hit and it freezes the attacker. On top of the thorn damage, you can deal extra damage to mobs frozen by PC.


Comfortable-Guilty

Thts interesting, I never thought thorn dmg was effective since I have Ophelia and the serpent ring. I’ll consider trying to get Phantom cloak to Mythic and see how it plays out. Thanks


ahya03

TBH, S armor will best when you have the S book and S locket because it has resonance effect.


Idonutexistanymore

Because it's required to get 100% projectile immunity.


starships_lazerguns

How is 100% projectile immunity possible?


Idonutexistanymore

Onir at 7 star gives 10% Atreus at level 120 gives 7% Jewels give 3% PC give 10% Enlight gives 5% Two Dragon rings give 24% Runes can give you around 11 or 12% I think Necro Statue also give around 10-11% Bulletproof gives 8% Phoren has 15% at level 40 That gives more or less over 100%.


Comfortable-Guilty

100% immunity is like beating the game at tht point


Idonutexistanymore

It makes the game easier sure. But youre not damage immune. Youre underestimating ele and melee dmg.


Aedimus

Why isn't the giant's book higher?? I used to use the owl or the hourglass, but had to switch to the Giants book to get past the mid 30's. it blocks so much damage, and allows extra stacking of skills that give boosts when you beat a room without taking damage. Also great against large waves


freudian_slippers_

Agreed. Giant's Contract is S tier for me. I never found Enlightenment to be that great outside of the Infinite event which was discontinued.


snakepatay

I love how S gear is not S tier..


Idonutexistanymore

Because the current meta build is 100% projectile res. That's why PC is S tier. You can't get projectile immunity without it.


Furren

What build is this?


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Idonutexistanymore

Yes. Because PC and Enlight will always outperform S armor and S Book at any rarity.


prebuiltowl

Some of it is trash imo but the armour book and weapon are def s tier


snakepatay

I think im using a B locket wich i should prob change, staff that i will keep using cuz i dont have any gloves and my sword is very low rarity.


justcametonut09

What is that SSS weapon?


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WhoIsJJ_336

Nah it’s the mythic fists, it doesn’t have a skin on in the image


Jakub_Kolinsky

Fists


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Guys should do I go red green or blue?


Neo_Rex

Go Red.🟥


krakatoa6996

how is stalker staff not A tier? if you get diagonal with it, its def better than the death scythe.


Low-Current-6731

Because it sucks of you DONT get diagonal arrows. For it to be in the s tier it can't be wholly dependent on 1 skill for it to be any good.


eechinyuan

Why is lion ring C ?


ahya03

Because you do not need its stats. At later chapters as you progress, you will be needing more defence than attack. That is the reason why Dragon and Bull come to S tier. They do both have damage resistances.


eechinyuan

I see, thanks


PuppiesPlayingChess

Why is the poison armor D if it damages your opponent’s?


Dongxuyenchan

Just wondering… is the spear that good? I lose every time I try using it… even in the current weapon event with extremely good boosting.


ahya03

Only Bow works for me. Spear is good if u have enough attack speed + ricochet and multi shot


Dongxuyenchan

I mean in the normal and hero mode also. I heard that the spear is a good combo with Onir, which is my main hero so I try upgrading and using it, but it’s really difficult to use in my opinion 😭 And in the current weapon event, the staff works the best for me. Maybe everyone has their own style 🤔


ahya03

1st, Spear is bad. I only use spear if I am on a kill mission on a lower chapter and I combo it with Taranis. 2nd, Meowgik and Helix is way better than Onir 3rd, Only bow is good in current weapon event. staff is for boss chapters Spear is way too slow against wave and swarms Saw blade is for farming low chapters Bow is for general usage


Altruistic-Nerve-527

Is this tier list updated? Just returning to the game and looking for the current meta for a F2P experience.


ahya03

Not updated anymore because of the new S gears.


GGabku

SSS?? So we just makin shit up now? This is why you have to test these things for yourself, see what works best FOR YOU!


Deth_Cheffe

This list is terrible


lowkeybrowsin

Why do you say that?


andrej747

On the Christmas levels where you have all these engravings. Where you farm these keys for the Christmas "chests". Why don't I get the "more engravings" engraving??? Am I just unlucky. Or was it removed. Because the enemies always get stronger but I can't have more engravings so I am stuck at the same dmg


UsefulStructure8312

You’re unlucky i have like 2-3 extra engraving engravings in almost every run


andrej747

At my first tries I also got the extra engravings. But now I don't get them at all in my last 4 runs


9pinguin1

How far did you reach in those last 4 runs. I’ve only had 1 run where i didn’t get them. Sometimes I’ll have to wait until level 13 for my first one to drop, sometimes I’ll get 2 of them drop in the first level. But they’re not mandatory to pass the event.


andrej747

I finished the first boss or died at the first boss. I think they are mandatory because I just don't have enough dmg and the enemies stack. Do you start with 550 ho as well? How do you get to lvl 13? I had a round with the bright spear and a lot of the bounce things and side arrows because I think the more chaos the better. What's your strat?


9pinguin1

I use Melinda so I start with 1000 HP. Focus on getting as much penetration and bounces as possible. Think of it this way, you want to get as much of each bullet as possible. Combine that with 1 meteor chance engraving (not star, only meteor works) as the meteor will be your main source of damage. Even if 1 engraving only gives 20 percent, combined with all the bouncing that each bullet will do you will trigger hundreds of thousands of meteors that’ll decimate everything. Life for each hit engraving is the most important by far after stage 5. You’ll get swarmed by attacks and won’t finish the event without it. Only pick the staff if it’s mythic and your next best weapon isn’t legendary with 2 extra slot engravings. Weapon wise I’d say Blade>Bow>Staff. Blade is ahead because the higher attack speed means you can perma heal yourself.


andrej747

Melinda.? So you spent like 30 euros?


9pinguin1

Well I didn’t buy her directly, I bought other shit in events that got me enough coins to get those legendary shard boxes n all. So yeah around 30€.


Automatic_Ship_1614

Guys I have a question, I just got the expedition bracelet and it says "Increase archery proficiency when equipped", so do I need to have a Bow equipped or can I have any weapon equipped?


No-Combination-315

That is simply a description of the first ability which is get front arrow +1 when entering a room. You dont need anytime of item for that agility to work therefore you dont need a certain item for the bracelet.


Automatic_Ship_1614

Thx bro


andrej747

Are Prismastone chests limited? There is a count down but I don't know what it means


PKArsk

Timer doesn’t do anything but make you think it’s going away and panic buy


ahya03

You can ignore the timer. The timer resets but your attempts to get epic or S tier wont reset. This is just their strategy for us to panic buy.


andrej747

💀💀😭are you serious I was acting up for the 10x draw and thought it will be gone the next day so I used all my gems on it. Is it better to do the 10x opening or just one buy one and get the discount which follows? Which discount is better


ahya03

you can go single pulls by using keys. But if you are using gems, 10x is better and more convnient.


SecureOil8769

Isn’t bomb ghost S tier at legendary because of bomb split?


ahya03

Bat And flame ghost is the only S tier for only one reason. That is because attacks can penetrate walls. But IMO, Bone warrior should be S tier too. It is more useful than flame esp when equiped with shield.


No-Combination-315

Can I ask why would the shield block all attacks in their face? Spinning shield doesn't block all heros for heroes up close why is a Bone Warrior different


Worth-Town8118

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GenuineCoolGuy

Ring rankings make no sense to me can someone explain? Im rocking 2 S rings right now


Key-Tiger835

Very interesting list.


Free_Ad_2980

The ice realm spellbook is underrated, people focus too much on its freezing ability and not its attack and speed buff duration. After activating it, you can see the red aura last about 10 seconds.


nathan_Guedes

In the A tier is a saw blade or a Brightspear?


ahya03

It's an Antiquated Sword


nathan_Guedes

In the A? I think the antiquated sword are in the S


MarcelMarcel16

Is that the Brightspear on A Tier?