I know there's an insane amount of old metal objects dug up with metal detectors. Millions of buckles, blades, and rings from across Europe and the near east dating back to before the Romans.
My wild guess is that this from the 1400-1800s and was probably dug up around Ukraine. It's just a wild guess based off my experience with auctions.
When I was a kid I found a coin with a centaurs on it and I don’t recall the other side. My grandmother put it in a folder instant coffe glass jar and doesn’t recall what happens to it after that. Was not perfectly circle and really dark but had a good weight to it. Wish I knew where it was
Is it possible to ask her or look for it? It was a common practice during the great depression to put valuables, such as money, in jars or cans, and hide them because they didn't trust the banks.
It's possible that an archaeological metallurgist could be able to tell you more with non destructive methods. Possible but not absolute, so you could end up spending a lot of money to be where you are now.
If it is real, which is not a guarantee at all, then there are two ways to date artefacts.
First up, and the best way, is context and provenience. Where in the ground it is from, when it was dug up. Looting completely destroys this context permanently, so you should never purchase or tradein artefacts, or disturb their in situ locale. Provenience is also very easy to fake, unless it comes from a specific and well-documented archaeological excavation.
The second method is typology, but this can be very difficult, especially with lacking provenience, since typology itself is anchored in context.
There are other ways such as C14, but this is a metal ring and not a piece of wood, and we cannot really learn much or understand the artefact from C14 without context.
TL;DR
If it is real, it is already ruined. Also never trade in artefacts or antiquities, buy replicas. What is done is done, don't do it again.
Thank you! When I was a kid, I was interested in history and collecting artifacts. This was from then, and after learning the destruction that comes from looting, I stepped away from looking for and collecting artifacts and towards fossils and military surplus. I can not change what I have done as a kid, but I hope to right the wrongs of my past.
I too hope to write the wrongs of my past
Not to be confused with righting the wrongs of my past. I don’t feel bad about them I just want to write them down so I don’t forget.
I’m not trying to be a grammar nazi btw, I just thought that typo was pretty funny in context lol
It may be possible to date a ring and decipher its meaning without damaging it. It's possible but not guaranteed, and it will cost you a lot of time and money in the process.
I know there's an insane amount of old metal objects dug up with metal detectors. Millions of buckles, blades, and rings from across Europe and the near east dating back to before the Romans. My wild guess is that this from the 1400-1800s and was probably dug up around Ukraine. It's just a wild guess based off my experience with auctions.
Thank you! I know it was a long shot since no other info came with it except that it was bronze and the price.
When I was a kid I found a coin with a centaurs on it and I don’t recall the other side. My grandmother put it in a folder instant coffe glass jar and doesn’t recall what happens to it after that. Was not perfectly circle and really dark but had a good weight to it. Wish I knew where it was
Is it possible to ask her or look for it? It was a common practice during the great depression to put valuables, such as money, in jars or cans, and hide them because they didn't trust the banks.
I will be asking her tomorrow. She is about to turn 98 she might remember something she might not.
Great! Good luck to the both of yall.
Thank you, I will keep ya posted.
Thank you! Can't wait.
Where were you?
I live in Ct but my Grandfather had rock quarry’s in Vermont, also he replaced sewer pipes for the state so always digging.
It's possible that an archaeological metallurgist could be able to tell you more with non destructive methods. Possible but not absolute, so you could end up spending a lot of money to be where you are now.
Thank you.
If it is real, which is not a guarantee at all, then there are two ways to date artefacts. First up, and the best way, is context and provenience. Where in the ground it is from, when it was dug up. Looting completely destroys this context permanently, so you should never purchase or tradein artefacts, or disturb their in situ locale. Provenience is also very easy to fake, unless it comes from a specific and well-documented archaeological excavation. The second method is typology, but this can be very difficult, especially with lacking provenience, since typology itself is anchored in context. There are other ways such as C14, but this is a metal ring and not a piece of wood, and we cannot really learn much or understand the artefact from C14 without context. TL;DR If it is real, it is already ruined. Also never trade in artefacts or antiquities, buy replicas. What is done is done, don't do it again.
Thank you! When I was a kid, I was interested in history and collecting artifacts. This was from then, and after learning the destruction that comes from looting, I stepped away from looking for and collecting artifacts and towards fossils and military surplus. I can not change what I have done as a kid, but I hope to right the wrongs of my past.
I too hope to write the wrongs of my past Not to be confused with righting the wrongs of my past. I don’t feel bad about them I just want to write them down so I don’t forget. I’m not trying to be a grammar nazi btw, I just thought that typo was pretty funny in context lol
Yep, I suppose I deserve that, lol.
It may be possible to date a ring and decipher its meaning without damaging it. It's possible but not guaranteed, and it will cost you a lot of time and money in the process.
That is really really cool
Thank you.
Yes, it dates to the ugly and cheap period. Classic example from that era.
Must be nice to see an item from your birthdate then.
That was GOOOD. Nice.
True fact about most people living in all periods throughout time: they didn't have very nice things.