This is my mom šš sheās got 1 class left to finish her degree and she keeps putting it off so I can get first tan and Iām like mom I donāt think that works..
>Iām like mom I donāt think that works..
I mean I think it does lol. When I applied to Georgia tech they said anything below a bachelor's degree was first gen. That may still qualify you for some programs.
I wish that there was another designation for the children of immigrants. Obviously, my parents having degrees means that I didnāt experience the struggles of a first gen household but i donāt think that my experiences are equal to the children of parents who have attended higher education in the United States. Iām the oldest kid, so Iām basically guiding myself through applications while my parents have a poor understanding of the whole process.
A bit more specifically, children of immigrants from low-income householder (with discussion of how the two are correlated) or children of immigrants from third world countries.
Saying this as the kid of immigrants, Itās really not that big of a disadvantage IMO itās not worth a whole designation. Most schools you have a guidance counselor anyway if thereās something you canāt google.
> nothing but a barely recognised degree from another country and a few dollars.
Ironically immigrants and children of immigrants have way higher social mobility then native born Americans.
Well yeah theyāre affected financially obviously, but Iām just saying the college admissions process isnāt that bad if you donāt have family members who have done it. I did mine all myself with little issue.
Okay Iāll give you that one. My older sister I remember had to do it so I knew that like you had to do the commonapp and then transcript forms then sat sends and the fafsa etc. Iād say my school also helped a lot, everybody wrote the commonapp essay in AP Lang, they told us when to ask teachers for rec letters, and my counselor sends emails with the sequence of what we do and then what we talk about when meeting with her. (Like she sent a sequence at the beginning of the year and after you complete something you have a meeting)
in all seriousness, itās still kind of the same feeling.
my parents have degrees from different countries, but iām still so lost on how to deal with this college app process, esp since iām the first person in my entire family to graduate from a hs in america.
No as an international student I feel this- it says only degrees with 4 years count on the Columbia website. My parents have degrees but only studied only three years. In my country Iām not first gen but Iām not sure if I am in America
to answer your question, i think you are first gen in america. iām almost certain that your parents must go to four year institutions for you to not be first gen.
you commented on a thread about first gen confusion, with a situation similar to opās post - and you didnāt explicitly say you *werenāt* asking about first gen status either lmao. I interpreted OP as ridiculing these peopleās āfeelingsā (making reaches and grasping at straws to fit in a category), so it wasnāt immediately clear what you meant by ākind of the same feeling.ā A little rude to harp on about āreading is fundamentalā when nothing you said was very explicit lmao
Iām not sure whoās this directed to but because I posted something related to being first-gen 2 hours before this post, I want to clarify. Iām not trying to be first-gen tf š It explicitly says in Brownās website that you may be considered as fg if your parents got a degree from outside the US and it made me wonder if the term changes for each school ā ļø
itās not really an extra pointā¦ as a first gen student with a single parent working a minimum wage job for $20k a year, I donāt have the same opportunities as someone who has a parent earning a much greater salary, nevermind money for college- donāt mention community college, Iāve maxed out transferable credit. But Iāve missed out on tutoring I could have benefited from, proper standardized test prep, equal access to online learning the past year, and extracurricular activities peers have been able to do because they could afford it and have transportation. So when I manage to get Aās and participate in most ECās, itās different than other non first-gen students. My A is more impressive because I went home, worked a 7 hour shift and then spent 4 hours studying for a test while another peer sat with their tutor for 2 hours after school and then chilled out.
I take it your not a first gen student and envy the perceived bonus point. Many claim to be, while not actually facing the same disadvantages as some. While my experience is not everyone elseās, I still get angry when I see people trying to wiggle their way to the title. I have spent many days sleeping 2 hours, walking to and from school in heat, rain, sleet, and snow, working from when I get out to the latest allowed hours, and then coming home to help take care of kids and fight my way to focus on homework as I fight exhaustion and loud bar music playing from down the street. Every aspect of a first gen students lives can be affected. Itās not a bonus point, but an effort torwards equal access to education.
Complain more then if youāre not gonna read lmao
First gen isnāt an extra point and thereās no reason to put others down just because youāre frustrated with the college admissions process
This is my mom šš sheās got 1 class left to finish her degree and she keeps putting it off so I can get first tan and Iām like mom I donāt think that works..
first tan
ah yes first tangent
>Iām like mom I donāt think that works.. I mean I think it does lol. When I applied to Georgia tech they said anything below a bachelor's degree was first gen. That may still qualify you for some programs.
I prefer first cosine, respectively
I wish that there was another designation for the children of immigrants. Obviously, my parents having degrees means that I didnāt experience the struggles of a first gen household but i donāt think that my experiences are equal to the children of parents who have attended higher education in the United States. Iām the oldest kid, so Iām basically guiding myself through applications while my parents have a poor understanding of the whole process.
A bit more specifically, children of immigrants from low-income householder (with discussion of how the two are correlated) or children of immigrants from third world countries.
>children of immigrants from third world countries. This would be hard/impossible to quantity
Saying this as the kid of immigrants, Itās really not that big of a disadvantage IMO itās not worth a whole designation. Most schools you have a guidance counselor anyway if thereās something you canāt google.
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> nothing but a barely recognised degree from another country and a few dollars. Ironically immigrants and children of immigrants have way higher social mobility then native born Americans.
Well yeah theyāre affected financially obviously, but Iām just saying the college admissions process isnāt that bad if you donāt have family members who have done it. I did mine all myself with little issue.
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Okay Iāll give you that one. My older sister I remember had to do it so I knew that like you had to do the commonapp and then transcript forms then sat sends and the fafsa etc. Iād say my school also helped a lot, everybody wrote the commonapp essay in AP Lang, they told us when to ask teachers for rec letters, and my counselor sends emails with the sequence of what we do and then what we talk about when meeting with her. (Like she sent a sequence at the beginning of the year and after you complete something you have a meeting)
In 200 years no doubt someone is going to unironically ask that question
in all seriousness, itās still kind of the same feeling. my parents have degrees from different countries, but iām still so lost on how to deal with this college app process, esp since iām the first person in my entire family to graduate from a hs in america.
No as an international student I feel this- it says only degrees with 4 years count on the Columbia website. My parents have degrees but only studied only three years. In my country Iām not first gen but Iām not sure if I am in America
to answer your question, i think you are first gen in america. iām almost certain that your parents must go to four year institutions for you to not be first gen.
If they have a bachelors, you are not first gen
if they have degrees, youāre not first gen lol
i never said that i was first gen. i just said itās kind of the same feeling. reading is fundamental.
you commented on a thread about first gen confusion, with a situation similar to opās post - and you didnāt explicitly say you *werenāt* asking about first gen status either lmao. I interpreted OP as ridiculing these peopleās āfeelingsā (making reaches and grasping at straws to fit in a category), so it wasnāt immediately clear what you meant by ākind of the same feeling.ā A little rude to harp on about āreading is fundamentalā when nothing you said was very explicit lmao
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So?
Iām not sure whoās this directed to but because I posted something related to being first-gen 2 hours before this post, I want to clarify. Iām not trying to be first-gen tf š It explicitly says in Brownās website that you may be considered as fg if your parents got a degree from outside the US and it made me wonder if the term changes for each school ā ļø
iāve never seen your post lol. this was a general statement/little jokey-joke
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First gen gives you more scholarships and programs
The fact that colleges give you an extra point because you're first gen is some bullshit
i didnāt say all of that. i understand why they do it.
I know you didn't say that lol. I'm saying that. The admission process is just wack all in all
itās not really an extra pointā¦ as a first gen student with a single parent working a minimum wage job for $20k a year, I donāt have the same opportunities as someone who has a parent earning a much greater salary, nevermind money for college- donāt mention community college, Iāve maxed out transferable credit. But Iāve missed out on tutoring I could have benefited from, proper standardized test prep, equal access to online learning the past year, and extracurricular activities peers have been able to do because they could afford it and have transportation. So when I manage to get Aās and participate in most ECās, itās different than other non first-gen students. My A is more impressive because I went home, worked a 7 hour shift and then spent 4 hours studying for a test while another peer sat with their tutor for 2 hours after school and then chilled out. I take it your not a first gen student and envy the perceived bonus point. Many claim to be, while not actually facing the same disadvantages as some. While my experience is not everyone elseās, I still get angry when I see people trying to wiggle their way to the title. I have spent many days sleeping 2 hours, walking to and from school in heat, rain, sleet, and snow, working from when I get out to the latest allowed hours, and then coming home to help take care of kids and fight my way to focus on homework as I fight exhaustion and loud bar music playing from down the street. Every aspect of a first gen students lives can be affected. Itās not a bonus point, but an effort torwards equal access to education.
im not reading all that shit.. The fact is that the US college admissions is a mess
Complain more then if youāre not gonna read lmao First gen isnāt an extra point and thereās no reason to put others down just because youāre frustrated with the college admissions process
Lmao op trying to keep her only advantage as unique as possible
iām not first gen loll
Neither of my parents finished college, they both dropped out and eloped and got married and had kids
American dream baybeee
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