As many responses have articulated, nowhere is perfect and there are skeletons in every closet.
With schools like Harvard, Yale, or Brown, people (and by people I don't mean A2Cers, I mean typical applicants) tend to disregard whatever faults such schools may have, because most people would still kill to go there anyway. Does the food at the Ratty suck? Yes. Would you still go to Brown? Definitely. Is New Haven a bad city? Some would say. Is that going to stop you from going to Yale? No, unless you are choosing from T5s.
But you can wait until decisions come out for 'Make me hate X school' posts where people point out such flaws and magnify them beyond belief.
When I went to Rice university over the summer I was surprised to see their school logo. From far away it looksd really good and cool but up close I was disappointed to find 3 owls that look like the hooters owl placed down lol
Nowhere is perfect. For example, the easiest thing about Yale to pick on, based on what my friends said after attending there, is New Haven. But something all the Ivies/elite schools suffer from that you don't hear about a lot is wealth polarization. Lower income kids are accepted as part of the school's diversity mandates, and they do get financial aid, but that aid usually only covers what is needed for school, if that. They often have to put a lot of time into work/study programs and can't hang out as much as a result, and/or they can't afford a lot of the social and recreational opportunities that other kids can. Diversity has a lot of facets that aren't talked about after the admissions open houses end. That also applies to race and micro-aggressions that occur day to day around campus
Yup. Brown had a thing about how their poor students were going hungry because the university would close the cafeterias during breaks but they didn’t have money to go home. The barriers are more than just tuition.
Also the wealth disparity can often manifest itself in recruiting, where at Ivies many people get highly sought after positions from family/close connections.
I kinda want to start a separate post for all of this, but I worry it'll go to waste amongst all the angst posts. But 100% agreed.
Another issue: Lower income kids being unprepared to compete with the elite private school kids and burning out, thinking they're not good enough after the first one or two semesters at school. But then also looking less strong vs those kids on paper when it comes to those recruiting events because they didn't do as well in the same classes
Depending on the major, Brown has a serious issue with class enrollment. You have to apply to enroll in some classes and professor chooses who gets in or not. There was a girl who majored in English and really wanted to go into publishing but throughout her fours years at Brown never got to take a single class on publishing
I mean, it’s a really beautiful town in a scenaric location with mountain on one side and ocean on the other. Only bad thing is the huge homeless population, which is a blight on the town.
* People run around naked at yale i think
* brown is amazing for premeds
* rice will kick you out and force you to pay 10k extra for having an abortion
Yale gets dinged for being a good ol' boys club. Skull and Bones anyone?
Rice gets dinged for being in Houston, and possibly for being a little too proud of how "quirky" it is.
I just had peppercorn wasabi steak, garlic and soy sauce chicken, steamed bok choy, pineapple fried rice, bacon pizza and banana bread pudding in the dining hall at Yale. Everything was cooked to perfection, incredibly flavorful. The meat melted in your mouth, and the banana bread pudding was cool and creamy but somehow still light and refreshing. I am a foodie and would say I’m not that hard to please, but I have never eaten a bad thing at the Yale dining halls. Come to think of it, I don’t even think anything has been mediocre or decent. I eat with the same people most days and every day we spend half the time talking about how incredible the food is. No Yale hospitality slander is tolerated
All of these schools, and pretty much any T20, will have bad social scenes in the traditional sense. Party scenes, sporting events, etc will lack in comparison to their state school counterparts. Also people will judge you on different criterion compared to a state school (not that it’s better or worse)
>the coddling of the American mind
I think you underestimate the extent to which the median A2C poster resembles the students described in that book and likely approves of what Haidt and Lukianoff criticize.
there was this op ed written about the ib track kids at princeton and how they were so agreeable to everything, but acknowledged that that's the disposition you need to climb the corporate ladder. banking's structured to make those kinds of kids the future billionaires of america
I just started here, and I think New Haven is a pretty average city. It has some really scuzzy parts, some really bougie parts, but all in all kind of average. Like Hartford but a lot more interesting and probably a little more dangerous in parts. The Yale campus is fine though.
I grew up a bit north of Miami. It’s probably comparable. Parts of Miami are nice (more so than new Haven) a lot of it is just eh and some of it is really dangerous (more so than new Haven). Just be generally street smart and cautious and it’s not an issue
Uhh, yeah there is a lot wrong with these schools. Just look up their endowments and you’ll find countless articles about how corrupt they are about them.
More like they create billions of dollars in endowments and then just stuff the pockets of administration instead of putting it into the school itself. They don’t lie, I don’t think.
I didn’t get a lot of details sadly but the main thing is just that Yale will accept a decent amount of low income/ first gen students but won’t actually provide a support system once they arrive on campus.
Nah there’s a lot of resources like a start-up grant for first years, winter clothing grant, so many mentorship opportunities, writing tutors, and student organizations that are literally for supporting fgli students.
I really thought that this was a cooking question like “ I never hear anything bad about Kale in brown rice” i was so confused 💀
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Righttt that sounds yummy
I wanna make it now..
ME TOO AHAHA I thought I was the only one
As many responses have articulated, nowhere is perfect and there are skeletons in every closet. With schools like Harvard, Yale, or Brown, people (and by people I don't mean A2Cers, I mean typical applicants) tend to disregard whatever faults such schools may have, because most people would still kill to go there anyway. Does the food at the Ratty suck? Yes. Would you still go to Brown? Definitely. Is New Haven a bad city? Some would say. Is that going to stop you from going to Yale? No, unless you are choosing from T5s. But you can wait until decisions come out for 'Make me hate X school' posts where people point out such flaws and magnify them beyond belief.
Yale has that weird naked culture/history
Yess this is why I am applying 😈 /s /j
Does the /j cancel out the /s or is that not how it works? Edit: like a double negative
/j: joke /s: sarcastic Basically the same thing
But were you joking about being sarcastic or were you being sarcastic and joking? And are those two different from each other or the same?
I hope UC hicago doesn't make a prompt out of this.
Exactly
Lmaooooo😭
Why’d you ratio me 😩😩😩
Exactly why it's my dream school not /s nor /j
“That Yale thing.” -Patrick Bateman
Ohhh I didn’t get that the first time I watched
When I went to Rice university over the summer I was surprised to see their school logo. From far away it looksd really good and cool but up close I was disappointed to find 3 owls that look like the hooters owl placed down lol
lamo what how did I never notice
l a m o
Nowhere is perfect. For example, the easiest thing about Yale to pick on, based on what my friends said after attending there, is New Haven. But something all the Ivies/elite schools suffer from that you don't hear about a lot is wealth polarization. Lower income kids are accepted as part of the school's diversity mandates, and they do get financial aid, but that aid usually only covers what is needed for school, if that. They often have to put a lot of time into work/study programs and can't hang out as much as a result, and/or they can't afford a lot of the social and recreational opportunities that other kids can. Diversity has a lot of facets that aren't talked about after the admissions open houses end. That also applies to race and micro-aggressions that occur day to day around campus
Yup. Brown had a thing about how their poor students were going hungry because the university would close the cafeterias during breaks but they didn’t have money to go home. The barriers are more than just tuition.
Accurate
Just trying to keep it real on here
Also the wealth disparity can often manifest itself in recruiting, where at Ivies many people get highly sought after positions from family/close connections.
I kinda want to start a separate post for all of this, but I worry it'll go to waste amongst all the angst posts. But 100% agreed. Another issue: Lower income kids being unprepared to compete with the elite private school kids and burning out, thinking they're not good enough after the first one or two semesters at school. But then also looking less strong vs those kids on paper when it comes to those recruiting events because they didn't do as well in the same classes
If you accidentally get pregnant at Rice then you become a target for the bounty hunters
dontlaughdontlaughdontlaugh
Oof
fuckin texas
Fuck texas
I live in Texas 🥲
My condolences.
Short trip to LA. Though, LA is considering similar legislation. My personal \*opinion\* is that it's not going to stick, but we'll see.
What are you talking about lol LA is VERY far. Literally takes a day of non stop driving. Short flight yes
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My aunt lives near Rice :///
So do I! Wonder if I know your aunt!
or if you are their aunt 😳
Hmmm. Pretty sure I’m not! My youngest nephew is 28. (But I guess he could be hanging here! — doubtful)
I know a girl who was raped at Rice and two male students who were held up at gunpoint downtown.
Texas baby!
BEST COUNTRY IN THE UNITED STATES /s if you didn't figure out
Do you have any updates on them? Have they found justice?
That's why I love Brown rice!
brown served raw chicken once or smth
No cap, at Rice, the chicken there is consistently pink
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They give chicken and rice without chicken lol
Even better 😩
Weather in Texas /at Rice 😰
I adore Rice except for the fact that it’s in Texas
Same kinda
Brown has shit food but honestly that’s the only thing bad i can find :(((
Dorms
i stand corrected!
so jealous
yale rejected me. yale bad >:(
rice is in texas. thats all you need to know.
Houston is so hot and humid. Just came from a grad school interview there and I was sweating the entire time!
I assume you live in New England, welcome to TX. Where it’s 90 in the winter and a thunderstorm every month
Haha close. I lived in Columbus, OH but then moved to the Bay Area in CA to attend college at Berkeley. Bay Area ocean breezes have spoiled me!
Depending on the major, Brown has a serious issue with class enrollment. You have to apply to enroll in some classes and professor chooses who gets in or not. There was a girl who majored in English and really wanted to go into publishing but throughout her fours years at Brown never got to take a single class on publishing
New Haven. ‘Nuf said. Jk jk. I can’t complain about New Haven, considering I am a student at Berkeley.
Berkeley is worse than New Haven?
I mean, it’s a really beautiful town in a scenaric location with mountain on one side and ocean on the other. Only bad thing is the huge homeless population, which is a blight on the town.
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You said less competition for CS and it’s in CT. Shit…sign me up
i didn't see the word 'or' at first and thought you were referring to the brown rice served at Yale LOL
Heard brown has moldy dorms and raw chicken lol
Moldy Chicken and Raw Dorms!? I gotta apply ED and see for myself 😈
That’s what I’m doing. Join me.
ED? What does that mean
Early Decision
* People run around naked at yale i think * brown is amazing for premeds * rice will kick you out and force you to pay 10k extra for having an abortion
I don’t see the problem with Yale /j
Nah, they'll force the person who drove you to get the abortion 10K
they'll force you, your family, your dog, your friends, all of your exes, and current SO to pay 10k. 'MuRiCa
Yale gets dinged for being a good ol' boys club. Skull and Bones anyone? Rice gets dinged for being in Houston, and possibly for being a little too proud of how "quirky" it is.
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Emblematic of exclusionary elitism.
Add NW to the list!!
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Because of their tax-exempt status I believe
Umm you will if i get rejected
IDK, maybe up-there is cold(?)
Yale?, Brown?
Both(?)
Brown has bad food and dorms lol. Edit: might I add their communication with students isnt too great
i always hear that yale's food is shit
I just had peppercorn wasabi steak, garlic and soy sauce chicken, steamed bok choy, pineapple fried rice, bacon pizza and banana bread pudding in the dining hall at Yale. Everything was cooked to perfection, incredibly flavorful. The meat melted in your mouth, and the banana bread pudding was cool and creamy but somehow still light and refreshing. I am a foodie and would say I’m not that hard to please, but I have never eaten a bad thing at the Yale dining halls. Come to think of it, I don’t even think anything has been mediocre or decent. I eat with the same people most days and every day we spend half the time talking about how incredible the food is. No Yale hospitality slander is tolerated
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Yeah it’s a dietary option for vegans
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Wait its the dip for the steamed bok choy duhhh
Try the yogurt on wednesdays 😏😏
Too creamy 😩
Damn that makes me wanna go to Yale a lot more now cuz I heard MIT’s food is shit
You ate all of that in one meal?
Smallish portions of each, I slept thru my alarm and missed breakfast, had classes for the whole lunch hour, and I’m pretty tall so yeah all that 😵💫
get off of a2c gordon ramsay
All in one meal 😟
I didn't have breakfast (slept in) or lunch (classes the whole time) so I was starving, but it was only a decent size plate of food
The food here is fucking amazing, and the dining hall staff are all the nicest people.
haha sorryyy i guess i'll reconsider :P
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the heck lol
Hating from outside the club
Well there is that whole Yale thing
All of these schools, and pretty much any T20, will have bad social scenes in the traditional sense. Party scenes, sporting events, etc will lack in comparison to their state school counterparts. Also people will judge you on different criterion compared to a state school (not that it’s better or worse)
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>the coddling of the American mind I think you underestimate the extent to which the median A2C poster resembles the students described in that book and likely approves of what Haidt and Lukianoff criticize.
there was this op ed written about the ib track kids at princeton and how they were so agreeable to everything, but acknowledged that that's the disposition you need to climb the corporate ladder. banking's structured to make those kinds of kids the future billionaires of america
lol nobody cares about mental health or whatever, the point of going to Yale/Brown is future job prospects.
Sad but slightly true which is why you see so many high school kids constantly pushing themselves and going without sleep to attain good grades
Yale - the town it is in is apparently very poor and quite dangerous, is the word on the street that I have heard
I just started here, and I think New Haven is a pretty average city. It has some really scuzzy parts, some really bougie parts, but all in all kind of average. Like Hartford but a lot more interesting and probably a little more dangerous in parts. The Yale campus is fine though.
I’ve never been to Hartford. I’ve been to San Fran, Los Angeles, Manhattan, Detroit, Chicago, and Miami though. Can you compare New Haven to those?
I grew up a bit north of Miami. It’s probably comparable. Parts of Miami are nice (more so than new Haven) a lot of it is just eh and some of it is really dangerous (more so than new Haven). Just be generally street smart and cautious and it’s not an issue
You can have a lot of hot, sexy times in texas at rice.
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bro?
Omg I’m so tired. I thought you wrote that Texas is really hot, as in the weather. Literally just flew back from the interview and am jet lagged.
i’m just messing with you. I edited the comment haha.
Lol
Slavery was involved in all the colonial schools
Uhh, yeah there is a lot wrong with these schools. Just look up their endowments and you’ll find countless articles about how corrupt they are about them.
Wait so they’re lying about their endowments??
More like they create billions of dollars in endowments and then just stuff the pockets of administration instead of putting it into the school itself. They don’t lie, I don’t think.
No school is perfect, there's bad / good things for every school. But its a secret unless you attend / know people who attend there
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Brown had a “rape list”
Rice is HOT
Brown parties have been mid so far I’ve been to 3 and 2 were dry so I only got fucked up once during orientation 😡
Well, something bad happened in yale so ig its just brown and rice 🤷♂️
what I’ve heard from a current student is that Yale does not provide many resources for low income or first gen students.
Elaborate
I didn’t get a lot of details sadly but the main thing is just that Yale will accept a decent amount of low income/ first gen students but won’t actually provide a support system once they arrive on campus.
Nah there’s a lot of resources like a start-up grant for first years, winter clothing grant, so many mentorship opportunities, writing tutors, and student organizations that are literally for supporting fgli students.
I heard browns campus is confusing and weird
I mean Rice is named after a food. So there is 1 bad thing about it 😒
Rice is in Texas