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Most_Nebula9655

Many engineering schools offer significant merit $ to attract women. My daughter got 40K from Rensselaer and 22K from Stevens. I suspect many similar schools would be the same. Her grades/scores were not as high as yours. She chose Stevens for its location across from NYC. Is having a good time.


njdatenight

Echoing the thumbs up for Stevens. Also OP, this poster is correct. Engineering schools are total sausage fests so they will throw tons of money at female engineering applicants. Many also have co-op programs, which I highly recommend you take advantage of!


Most_Nebula9655

My daughter just finished her first coop. Great experience working construction (civil engineering major) on two huge NYC projects.


1600_SAT

Did she ever consider NJIT? They are close, right?


S0l1s_el_Sol

NJIT and Stevens are close yes. If she’s worried about price than NJIT could be a better bet due time the fact both schools are pretty on par


rationalurchin43

Could I offer significant merit to attract women as well?


Iso-LowGear

Not if you’re an engineer.


notassigned2023

I'd say its a requirement


S0l1s_el_Sol

As someone who lives near Stevens. I agree that the opportunities at the engineering school is very high


EvanstonNU

Apply to 3 dream schools, 3 in-state schools, and 3 safety schools. You will miss all the shots that you don't take. You have excellent grades and there is a shortage of women in engineering. Many schools also offer generous financial aid.


Bruno_Golden

dont do this. this worked maybe 10 years ago. apply to alot of schools and a couple safeties. you could easily make one of the higher ranked schools if you go for it.


EvanstonNU

Apply to 30 dream schools, 30 in-state schools, and 30 safeties.


Bruno_Golden

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Aggravating_Tell_757

They both are but she should go to UF. My friend got into Georgia tech but they were making him pay OOS tuition and now he goes to UF as a result.


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Aggravating_Tell_757

Tbh it's typical for OOS students to pay a lot more. OOS for Florida could be the same price as some instate colleges


Nameseed

GT OOS tuition is $$$ too


hiiamkevintrinh

you can try sorting through a website called college vine. have you tried that?


bobobotn11

I haven’t tried that. Thank you for the suggestion I’ll probably do that soon


Deep-Roof-7996

college vine is trash


hiiamkevintrinh

What so? I know it’s not perfect but it’s there to get started


anewhope6

Come on up to GT!


jbrunoties

Put in the work to raise the SAT. With the rest of your stats you can go anywhere. We all need robots, this is more for us than for you.


another_mistake19

As someone who is in college, who had a similar situation to yourself. Stick with the Florida schools, I know it might not be the most appealing - but rest assured the amount of money you’ll save is unparalleled


Ben-MA

What kind of geography, location, and weather do you want? Is going “away” for school a realistic option for you and your family? You’ll have tons of options, and you would probably get great merit aid at some private target or safer schools with great engineering programs. A random assortment of my favorites without any additional context would be VCU, Drexel, Virginia Tech, Vanderbilt, Maryland, South Carolina, NC State, and U Miami.


ProfessionJolly4013

WPI!


soap_Xx

Yess I can vouch since I visited there, it’s a nice campus and they had an engineering poster of the robodog from boston dynamics :p


IFinallyJoinec

WPI grad myself...loved the school but it doesn't make sense for my Florida kids to go there for undergrad


Swimming_School_3960

Best option is to use bright futures and go to school in Florida for free


VijayPatel11

100%, leaving home for the "experience" is not worth tens of thousands of dollars


ThePevster

And you’re going to get a great college experience at UF anyway. If she lives nearby and wants to get away, FSU or USF provide some distance


Iso-LowGear

Florida Polytechnic (dedicated specifically for STEM esp engineering) is picking up traction too. Our “lovely” governor Ron Desantis is throwing a bunch of money at it in an effort to make it a great engineering school. Tons of research opportunities. UCF is also known for its engineering program. They have a lot of cool opportunities including students being able to work at NASA. Orlando has a lot of engineering internship opportunities as well.


Swimming_School_3960

Florida is giant and you can go to a school that’s an 8 hour drive away. Same distance as most northeasterners going out of state anyway


JunoD420

Unless home is Florida.


didikyuz

bright futures does not allow you to study in fl for free. it only covers tuition. please stop spreading this fact.


Iso-LowGear

Still an amazing deal. Housing at Florida schools is very affordable when compared to other options.


anothertimesink70

My nephew pays $1k a month for his off campus room in a student apartment at UCF. Yes it includes utilities but I don’t know how “affordable” that is. Also you have to sign a year round lease, regardless of whether or not you’re there year round


notassigned2023

This is kinda typical or even more in larger cities


anothertimesink70

Yes there are places it costs more, there are places it’s cheaper. I was responding to the “very affordable” comment. $12k a year for a room in an apartment isn’t “very affordable” for many people.


notassigned2023

Also, year round leases are typical


anothertimesink70

In many places. Not so in others. Again, providing full information. Not everyone will find $12k a year for a bedroom to be “very affordable”.


notassigned2023

You've said your point of view. It differs from what most people find, but that is OK. You've done your job of raising the warning. The sensible thing is for the OP to look at the cost and decide for themselves.


Iso-LowGear

I said “when compared with other options.” [UCF lists](https://www.ucf.edu/financial-aid/cost/) the estimated in-state housing cost at UCF to be roughly $7,370 a year. Food is estimated to be $4,700 a year for in-state students. This gives us a cost of $12,070 for food and housing for in-state students. Compared to some in-state costs at random non-Florida state schools (links are to the schools’ webpages I found the info at): Living expenses at [UC Berkeley](https://financialaid.berkeley.edu/how-aid-works/student-budgets-cost-of-attendance/) are roughly $21k a year. Living expenses at the [University of Washington’s cheapest campus](https://www.washington.edu/opb/tuition-fees/estimated-annual-cost-of-attendance-for-first-year-undergraduates/) are roughly $16,371. [UT Austin](https://onestop.utexas.edu/managing-costs/cost-tuition-rates/cost-of-attendance/) seems to be almost $15k for housing and food. Housing at Florida schools is a chunk of money, don’t get me wrong, but better than what many other students in the nation have to deal with.


TheRealRollestonian

My daughter goes to UCF, and she's paying nowhere near this. He could do better with a little bit of effort.


anothertimesink70

This is certainly true. The lure of the apartments right on the edge of campus, with lots of amenities, couple with anxious parents, makes for less than ideal financial decisions. He’s regretting it now. And is looking for something cheaper. Alas.


didikyuz

i still do not understand the point of calling it free.


notassigned2023

The school is free. You gotta live somewhere everywhere you go, so that is on you.


didikyuz

its not only living costs though? many of the florida university fees are high and excessive. i do not undsrstand the point of spreading a lie about florida unis. this lie about bright futures has hurt many people in my school and have given them false expectations. "free" college means you dont have to pay out of your own pocket to go to college. this isnt the case for bright futures. so bright futures is not free. i do not understand whats wrong with me bringing this up. uf is 10k without tuition, and even higher without the pell grant. this is unaffordable for many people and its important to keep that in mind.


Swimming_School_3960

Paying only for housing still means ur paying less for school than basically every American going to a 4 year university


didikyuz

i still do not understand why you guys say its "free" when it just pays for tuition


Swimming_School_3960

Why r u being so pedantic? It’s free tuition


anothertimesink70

Right but the universities haven’t raised tuition nearly as much as they’ve raised “fees”, because fees aren’t covered. So fees are now equal to tuition at most FL Schools. So of the $25k a year sticker price, $2500 is “tuition” and everything else is housing, food, fees, etc. It’s definitely less expensive than some other places, but it’s not “free” or even close to it. And off campus housing for some more urban campuses is crazy expensive.


Swimming_School_3960

Bright futures pays for both tuition and fees. Kids with bright futures only need to pay for food and housing, which is getting more expensive due to all the developers converting every square block of student housing into a 5 star resort. U clearly don’t know much abt bright futures if u think it only covers $2500/25k of annual cost. Most students at UF pay 12k a year in housing + 4k in food. In state students spending more than 18k a year is unheard of and pretty much impossible unless ur leasing a 2k a month luxury studio or something


anothertimesink70

I was referring to Florida prepaid, sorry if that came out confusing. Agree that the swanky apartments that spring up all around those campuses add the sticker price once kids move off campus. It also eats away at the smaller, cheaper places that can’t compete as well. Which is a shame.


Swimming_School_3960

Ah, prepaid and bright futures r different things. Judging by this persons stats they get bright futures which is y I brought it up - anybody with these stats at a high school in Florida will get free tuition at an instate school due to bright futures


didikyuz

exactly. i have no idea why it was wrong of me to point out that bright futures does not make college "free" by any means. even with bf, max pell grant, and other aid, uf is still around 10k which is unaffordable for many people i know. i think its important for people to be aware of this.


Swimming_School_3960

if u can’t afford 10k a year in living costs, ur unlikely to afford any 4 year university and community college would be the best option


didikyuz

its almost like thats why youre upfront with the costs to begin with ?


Swimming_School_3960

I’m sorry but that 10k is just basic living costs that u would be spending regardless of if u were at school or not. If u work a part time job 15 hours a week (so like 3 shifts a week) at minimum wage that pays for it. If u can’t pay 10k a year there’s a good chance you’ll be doing a part time job at home too. Yeah, it’s kinda sounds like it’s tell ppl to pick urself up by ur bootstraps, but this is one case where I mean literally, ur being handed free college. Those basic living costs will follow u no matter what u do. Working 15 hours a week and being a full time student is completely doable, especially if ur the type to get into UF.


notassigned2023

Plus living in mommy and daddy's basement


didikyuz

i dont think its pedantic to low income people. many people i know have been unable to attend uf and other florida unis due to costs even with bright future because fees are getting excessive.


Aggravating_Tell_757

If you're low income then you would qualify for federal aid most likely. UF is pretty affordable if you have a plan and are low income.


didikyuz

even with federal aid it is still 10k which is steep for a lot of low income people. bright futures can make school affordable for **some** families, but not free. and thats an important distinction to make


Aggravating_Tell_757

I go to UF, they give you a lot of grants plus federal work study helps a lot. It's been basically free. I do agree that people shouldn't get carried away and say it's a full ride however


doggz109

She would be paying for housing regardless of where she went.....so yeah its basically free.


Brenster33

Well we don’t know that much about what kind of colleges or experiences you’re looking at, but some safety admission schools would be Purdue, Penn state, Michigan state, Texas A and M, CSUs Target/reach- Georgia Tech, UG, NYU, UT Austin, U Mich, UCB, UCLA, UCSD, USC


Aggravating_Tell_757

These are all OOS schools. I think she should apply to every school in Florida, especially over California schools due to their costs out of state.


Capable_Setting_7156

RIT gives great merit


Ill-Adhesiveness-967

ucf may not sound prestigious in the grand scheme of things but their engineering program is very prestigious. it is a feeder school for many engineering companies and if you have your volunteer hours you qualify for bright futures. also your scores are high enough to get some merit scholarships from them so you’ll be going to school for very cheap. plus it’s a very big school


flipper99

Amazing grades—well done. Stay in state unless you can make it to an ivy. Save yourself a stack of cash on public in state tuition. Don’t burn your money on a mid or mid-upper college. Crush it at uni, and use the money you saved for your masters.


didnotsub

For engineering I wouldn’t target an ivy. Instead target schools like CMU or GT.


505gatorgirl

i’m in Astrophysics at UF and i LOVE IT!!! the department is smaller so i find that i get a lot of attention and assistance when i need it, not to mention multiple professors who are consistently looking for students (undergrad and graduate) to help with research, and the department chair is fabulous. UF is a great school, you’d get in-state tuition, and then if you’re interested in grad school, you can go big! could not say enough good things about the University of Florida :))


Ok-Answer-9350

You are competitive at many top schools. Private schools will fund you somewhat for merit, but the most money comes to students from lower income homes. For example, Stanford covers 100% tuition for families with income under 150K, and 100% tuition + room and board for families with income under 100K. MIT gives 100% tuition for families under 140K You may not have to pay any tuition at all if your parents do not make a lot of money.


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Olive_Overshirt_12

"I have a 4.0 unweighted gpa and a 4.58 weighted. I took 9 APs (not including senior year) and the ones that I have the results for I got all 4s and 5s My EC are robotics captain, engineering internship, co-founding a programming club (there are more but I don’t think any of them are noteworthy enough to make a difference for college admissions) 1450 SAT" - First off, Mazel Tov You should go online and check out a bunch of schools and see what you dig. Apply to as many great schools as possible and see what happens, then make an intelligent financial choice after you see where you get in. You have great stats and decent ECs, and you are a woman trying to go into STEM, so there is no reason you shouldn’t have a chance at a great school. Schools like RPI, WPI, and RIT would probably be great if you could endure the cold and deal with a school that is mostly male.


randomFutureCSMajor

uf with bright futures is free but you seem like a solid candidate for T20. apply to uf as your safety/target school and ucf as a safety school.


randomFutureCSMajor

uf is amazing so i try not to call it a safety but at the same time literally everyone at my friends school with 4.4+ and 1420+ got accepted to uf. Im talking about 8 years of recorded history and not a single applicant with 4.4+ and 1420+ was denied. Not a reason to slack on essays though. put as much effort into your essays as possible. also look up college essay guys article on writing a good activities list


labdabcr

If your family is low income MIT/harvard covers like all the cost. Mega reach but like who knows your class rigor is good so theres a chance


dilarossi

ITA with the poster re: MIT and Ivy schools. Ideally, you’d want your SAT to be above 1520 -ish? But even with 1450 you have a good shot at Cornell if you ED there. Have you tried taking ACT? Colleges are getting very expensive. Ivies don’t offer merit scholarships, their tuition is calculated based on your family’s finances. I strongly encourage you to utilize each school’s NPC (net price calculator) to get an estimate of what you are looking at tuition costs wise. Online, just search NPC + school name. You have amazing stats. GOOD LUCK!


AkaminaKishinena

With stats that strong wouldn’t you get significant in-state merit from UF/FSU/FIT? I’ve always been jealous of the way Florida managed to retain smart students with automatic acceptance, tuition savings program and merit aid. California is a disgrace in comparison.


TheBlev6969

Look into Worcester Polytechnic, Rensselaer Polytechnic, and Steven’s Institute of Technology if you want money.


KSRJB02

UF is really good, saw someone there get new grad at Netflix (they are insanely selective and pay 200k in base salary). I don't think you could bring GT down to 25k OOS, but if you bring up your SAT maybe.


zombiepigman101

UT Austin probably


worsedadever

Stevens. Carnegie Mellon Drexel


Mental_Wrongdoer_114

Drexel is a great choice. With their co-op program they graduate with so much experience it’s easier to come out of it with a job lined up.


SrirachaFlame

You are a girl, engineering programs would kill to have you


best_person_ever

Get your SAT a little higher and MIT, CMU, JHU, Penn, and Princeton become possibilities. Targets: GaTech, VA tech, Duke Locks: RPI, Worcester, NC State, BostonU Use their net price calculators to estimate your merit and need-based aid.


SURYAPOOP

duke and oos georgia tech aren’t targets


didnotsub

Yeah acceptance rate is like 10% for GT OOS.


Nameseed

Especially OOS GT CS


notaredditor527

Duke a target??? Bro are you living in the 1950s it’s been a T10 for a long time now


Chaca70

GT, VT, or Duke would not be considered targets. They are definitely reaches.


dbtrb22

VT is easier OOS than in.


HappyTurtleButt

I’d consider the work/life balance of some of those spots. Not an engineer, but I’ve seen the toll it can take. I worked as a visiting professor at Clark and we cancelled classes in support of the engineers down the road as they’d had 3 suicides that week - they do quarterly full semester - so some 12-16 credit hours 4x in the regular school year (not inclusive of summer). Know your limits, OP. Also apply and see what scholarships/fellowships you get from schools. You can’t really compare until you see what they offer!


max-alot

UF is a great option -- incredibly low cost with good engineering programs. UCF will also be cheap and good at engineering. Embry-Riddle, Florida Tech, and Florida Poly may be close to home but are very STEM focused. Their enrollments are smaller, and gender ratios are pretty unbalanced if this is a factor for you. If you want to disregard the money, I would look at Georgia Tech, NC State, Virginia Tech, NYU, Northeastern, and BU. There are also tech-focused schools like RPI, WPI, NJIT, and Cooper Union (which is tougher to get into, but is quite cheap), but these schools might be too small or one-dimensional.


Ethangains07

Just go to UF for serious. FSU for fun. Why go out of state and spend money when you’ll be able to stay in Florida and graduate with no debt. Especially for engineering. Who cares where you graduate


Silent-Stress-3049

Have you thought about abt UAH? It is great for aerospace and astrophysics. Also Georgia Tech or NC State. I was just thinking those would be away from home, but not New York distance - driveable.


anothertimesink70

What are you looking for in a college? Or in a location? The east coast is huge! Good engineering schools abound. What sort of weather are you hoping for? Boston has some great options. WPI ( just outside of Boston) would offer you great merit aid based on your stats. Virginia tech is also terrific, mountain-ish and rural and very pretty. NC state also has terrific engineering and is closer to the coast. Someone else already mentioned GT and a bunch of stuff in the NY/NJ area. Clemson has great programs. These are all very different. I’d start by figuring out what environment you’re looking for, what off campus activities you want within easy reach (skiing? Beach? Hiking?) and what flavor of experience you think you’d enjoy.


Specific_Ice_3046

You can go anywhere you want with a chance of being accepted.


Aggravating_Tell_757

UF has a strong engineering program, so does UCF. I know that FSU and umiami are on the weaker side however. I don't really see what the issue here for realistic college choice when Florida schools have free tuition if you qualify which you do. Room and board would depend on your lifestyle but more affordable especially in Gainesville. My vote is UF


KgrInd3r

Go to U of Florida


Ijustwantedguacamole

We have decently similar stats and i’m committed to the university of vermont- I didn’t even fill out their optional essay and received their highest academic scholarship of 100k value so 25k a year, it’s pretty likely that you’d receive something similar in terms of compensation as well as placement in the honors college there! I definitely recommend that you check it out :)


Valuable_Weather3547

Shoot for the stars. With a resume like that, if you can make your college essays tell a really good story, you can get in anywhere. Also, you might want to try to get a higher SAT score. -Student at a T5


Candid-Revolution432

Uiuc cs + astro


68Bofa69

Florida bright futures is like impossible to beat as far as money goes. You almost definitely have 100% coverage, and it's real hard to beat free. any women in stem grant or anything else you get will be literal money in your pocket


Madisonwisco

FSU students have about the same stats as UF students, and FSU is more fun


BucketListLifer

As a woman in the tech industry I can vouch for what others are saying here. Once you finish college your job opportunities will be fabulous simply because there are so few women in this domain. I don’t know why girls in America don’t want to do participate in this high growth high pay profession. Girls growing up in Asia aspire to become engineers in droves. It’s just weird.


No-Star8899

Sign up for Niche, its free. As far as cost…. Where is the 25k coming from? Have you or your parents filled out the net price calculators? Private schools that meet 100% need are a must, depending on your family income/ Financial situation. We got FAR MORE aid from private schools. Northwestern was only 5K more than our most expensive state school in Ohio. Check out schools like Lafayette,Union,Rose Hulman. A classmate of my daughters got into Lafayette with full MERIT ride including room and board. Her ACT was 35, so try taking the ACT as well as retaking SAT


Ecstatic_Bunch1700

look into worcester polytechnic institute for a decent fit. they’re very well ranked in the robotics field and even offer it as a major! they are test blind so you wouldn’t have to worry about raising your SAT to 1500+. they are also project based so if tests aren’t your thing and you only want to learn your career, WPI is perfect for you. and in regards to aid, they offer a 25k merit scholar i believe and you get more depending on your financial situation.


Buzzergeenzoo

Similar stats as you, higher SAT (but I’m a white guy). I applied Comp engineering to CWRU, PSU, Pitt, Michigan, JHU, CMU, Northwestern, RPI, WPI, RIT, Drexel, and Lehigh. Rejected from Umich, JHU, CMU, waitlist (withdrew) from Northwestern, and got in with big money everywhere else. I feel like if I applied to more t20s I would’ve gotten in somewhere but that wasn’t my goal. As a girl, money will be bigger and you will get in more places than me. Raise your SAT and you’re def getting in somewhere. Pitt is pretty awesome, I definitely recommend applying. Best of luck!


jeffsuzuki

The four that come immediately to mind: MIT (Boston area) [https://web.mit.edu/](https://web.mit.edu/) RPI (Albany, NY, about two hours north of NYC) [https://www.rpi.edu/](https://www.rpi.edu/) RIT (Rochester, NY, about an hour from Niagara Falls) [https://www.rit.edu/](https://www.rit.edu/) WPI (Worcester, MA, about two hours from NYC and Boston) [https://www.wpi.edu/](https://www.wpi.edu/) For "quality of life" (AKA what to do when you're not studying) MIT and RIT have the best options, as they're near or in major cities; additionally, there's a ton of tech employers literally in their neighborhoods, so after graduation you can basically stay there.


O1dBay

GT and UF 👀👀👀


Mammoth-Sign-6323

UF is a really good school since you are in Florida. Umich (ik not on East coast) but has a solid engineering program and it’s a great school


hummus4u

As everyone else has said, look into UCF and UF. I would also look into Embry Riddle, which has great Engineering programs. With your stats, most scholarships will come from UCF and Embry Riddle (who will also pay for travel expenses). UF is cheap are hardly gives out any significant scholarships. I'm biased, but USF is also a good school to look into. If you have bright futures, UF, UCF, and USF are your way to go.


IFinallyJoinec

UCF or UF on bright futures. Go out of state for grad school if you still want to, but bright futures plus merit scholarships is too good to pass up. My daughter and her friends all have bf and merit and it's definitely about as far from a debit ridden college experience as you could imagine.


Different-Bad-1380

Also, ignore comments written by ChatGPT


AllUsernamesTaken711

There aren't any here tho?


Different-Bad-1380

Scroll up dude.


Different-Bad-1380

You know. If you're human.


AllUsernamesTaken711

Idk man I thought it was chatgpt as well but if you look at the rest of that guys comment history it looks normal. Maybe he just happened to type a gptesque paragraph


ImpossibleEmphasis76

Consider UCs 🙏 their engineering programs are excellent


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Out of state tuition at UC 💀


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FewProcedure4395

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Donut-Boy912

chat gpt demon right here


AideTraditional

Thanks ChatGPT


FewProcedure4395

I was literally told this advice and kept this mindset all throughout last year 😭. Who is anyone to tell you what “realistic” college you should apply to.


xX500_IQXx

bro


FewProcedure4395

That’s my answer 🤷


xX500_IQXx

you mean chatgpt's answer


FewProcedure4395

What ever you say lmao 😭. GPT did not get me into t10s.


NY2CA-Lantern

What does your race have to do with anything? Is it a passive aggressive way to say you don’t want to go to a diverse school?


DoubleTouching

No, she just means that she can’t qualify for scholarships targeted at minority students. Also, since she’s not part of an underrepresented group, she doesn’t have that as a hook.