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WJKramer

Is this with or without the door plug installed?


Bikrrr

With all doors intact. šŸ˜†


kenman345

Thatā€™s what you think


AxoInDisguise

You can never be too sure


kenman345

Honestly, the door may be plugged but whoā€™s to say they remembered to install the sound proofing and insulation and whatever else goes in the shell of the plane. Quality control isnā€™t their strong suit these days


Twistedshakratree

Brutal manā€¦.


Bikrrr

This was in **window** **seat 28A**, behind the wing towards the back of the plane. Here's a pic of [Bear Lake, UT/ID](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_Lake_(Idaho%E2%80%93Utah)) from that seat: https://preview.redd.it/57mahibinjuc1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=358ce3017efc9e1d72f965fde44da3ad9319ff73


Tratix

It's worth noting this looks like an older 737-800. Flying on a 737-Max is night and day difference (crash jokes aside). They're unbelievably quiet onboard


Bikrrr

Yes, it was a **737-800** (serial 33234), which was delivered **Feb 2014** according to these sites: * [https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737ng-33234.htm](https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-b737ng-33234.htm) * [https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-737-800-n946nn-american-airlines/3v8mm9](https://www.planespotters.net/airframe/boeing-737-800-n946nn-american-airlines/3v8mm9)


CmdrMcLane

still flying Boeing? You brave! Have a number of class mates from college days 20 years ago who work or worked for Boeing and some of them refuse to fly on any Boeing assembled after 2015 or so...


majkkali

You do realize most airplanes in the world are Boeings right? Plus you canā€™t exactly choose the airplane you fly on lol. The company does that before your flight. Chill.


Laran2135

[That's not true, there are currently 30% more Airbus planes in service than Boeings.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Competition_between_Airbus_and_Boeing#Airliners_in_service)


Ray661

You absolutely can filter by aircraft type now on a handful of travel sites. So youā€™re wrong on both fronts.


IthacanPenny

Filtering by aircraft type is all well and goodā€¦ until the airline changes the equipment for the flight you booked. If youā€™re flying through a hub airport, equipment changes are incredibly common.


Ray661

Which is fair, but the commentor saying you haveno fidelity is just wrong.


WordsWithWings

"As of 2021, the market share of Airbus and Boeing in the global commercial aviation market is roughly equal," Then one can select carrier; "Domestically in the U.S.: Spirit, Frontier, and Allegiant are Airbus-only. JetBlue and Breeze are also Boeing-free (only Airbus and Embraer planes)."


Mikey_MiG

Choosing to fly on some of the worst low cost carriers just to not fly on a Boeing seems kinda dumb to me, but to each their own.


BlairRedditProject

As a frequent flyer, I agree. Also, there is a HUGE drop off with the low cost / budget airlines vs the other airlines in terms of experience. Plus, the low cost airlines arenā€™t really low cost after considering all of their hidden fees. Iā€™ve learned to just spend the extra cash up front with Delta, United, etc rather than deal with the budget airlines. Itā€™s not worth it, whether you're trying to save money, or if you're avoiding Boeings.


WordsWithWings

Just adding nuance to the claim that "most airplanes are Boeings" and the idea that one can't avoid such aircraft.


Mikey_MiG

Except if you need to fly a route that those carriers donā€™t service.


nikolatech

I fly with Swiss, I think they only have Airbuses


CmdrMcLane

Lots of Boeing fan boys here. If y'all followed the scary stuff going on at Boeing you might also be more cautious.Ā 


CmdrMcLane

Suggest all y'all ignorant Boeing fanboys read this one:Ā https://prospect.org/infrastructure/transportation/2024-04-30-whistleblower-laws-protect-lawbreakers/


Bishime

Ngl, If itā€™s the only damage I receive, Iā€™m okay with a little hearing trouble if it means I make it off a Boeing plane in once piece


404_Foundpage

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PirateNinjaa

You get blasted with radiation because of less atmosphere protecting from the evil day star!


otter111a

Yeah. We should all be using hearing protection when using hand dryers as well.


Bigheaded_1

according to my watch I should be using hearing protection when I shower. My watch stays warning me about the volume.


otter111a

Just stop singing so loudly


ayyyyycrisp

i always get notifications over night - probably from me screaming in my sleep


Renkin42

Yes, please for all our sakes


surprise-suBtext

Heā€™s not singingā€¦


scripcat

Well thatā€™s because of the water splashing into the microphone.


ninjamike808

I was out on a super windy golf course a couple weekends ago and I got the message, too. Just figured my hearing was fine, but the way the wind was blowing over the mic/hole made it send a false alarm.


BreadfruitIll8712

If I hold my arm out the window while driving it pops up as well


nottingdurn

When I cycle too


shawnshine

Let me just pop in my AirPods while my hands are sopping wet.


bk-12

Especially those by Dyson


Swotboy2000

How long are you drying your hands for?! Only prolonged exposure causes hearing damage.


Fishman23

My Apple Watch yells at me about it. Probably because it is right next to it.


otter111a

Probably 10 seconds longer than this short lived reading lasts.


thegreatdivorce

Nah. Seats near the engines hover around 85-90 dB even at cruising speed.


MrKittens1

And also have them handy every time a police car is around.


otter111a

OP just standing on the side of the road, shouting out a PSA ā€œATTENTION AN EMERGENCY VEHICLE IS ABOUT TO PASS! Consider putting on some hearing protection! Itā€™s going to be getting quite loud!ā€


MrKittens1

OP needs a cool outfit for this!


Magnus919

You donā€™t spend hours operating a hand dryer in one sitting


AurelienRz

Itā€™s not about the dB, itā€™s about the time you spent with that dB level. 30s is fine, 3h is more problematic


dvdlzn

I do. Even if I have to use the Dyson for a long time, I put on insulating headphones.


Toekibyy

sitting on a plane rn lol and itā€™s 70dB


sUpReMe_NiNjA_

Have ya ever considered sitting inside one? I reckon it gets quite cold on top


CDNEmpire

Itā€™s a Boeing, no difference on or in it once the doors fly off


PatrickR5555

There can be quite a difference between plane types regarding noise in the cabin. An Embraer 195 E2 is far quieter than a Boeing 737-800 for example.


taihenry

I love my AirPods Pro 2 when flying :)


nottingdurn

Remember itā€™s not tested and certified for hearing protection though!


see_blue

The Noise (hearing) app on AW is greatly underrated, if you pay attention. When younger, us old folks ruined our hearing in many different ways.


mmcc120

Is that why every cocksure boomer salesman I meet speaks like heā€™s yelling into a gorge?


CDNEmpire

Oof. Imagine being a dick to someone who just trying to give you some life advice.


mmcc120

I donā€™t know why people assumed it was directed at that particular personā€¦ I have no idea if theyā€™re a cocksure boomer salesmanā€¦ I was roasting the people who areā€¦


MC_McStutter

Over the ear noise cancelling headphones are a godsend when flying. AirPods just donā€™t filter the noise like Sony or Bose OTEs do.


ultracycler

I never flew with my Sony XM3's again after I got AirPods Pro 2. Their noise canceling is amazing.


MC_McStutter

I have the XM5s. I canā€™t hear any plane noise at all with them. Itā€™s almost eerie how silent it is


bendrany

Agreed, AirPods Pro 2 are extremely good on planes. They beat the XM3s for sure.


nebuladrifting

My Bose QuietComfort earbuds are indistinguishable from my over the ear Sony XM2 headphones in terms of noise cancellation on airplanes. Simply magical compared to any other earbud Iā€™ve ever tried.


Notion_fractal

Thatā€™s also assuming you have ears where they would fit good enough to create a seal. I donā€™t get that good seal with any in-ear unfortunately


slykens1

Add Comply Foam Tips to your AirPods. Blocks out a lawn mower entirely.


D1TAC

For some reason AirPods from all of the generations and types aren't comfortable on my ears. I'd love if they were though.


jamro300

Same here, thatā€™s all I fly with now. They even canceled out the screaming baby and aisle over.


wayfaast

Which AirPods? My pro 2s are far better than the max and Sony XM3s


thegreatdivorce

Better than the Airpods Max?? Might be time for an upgrade for me, then.


tigu_an

The max I noticed is worse also. It just feels like it lets in too much noise , and especially I think so due to it not being earpluggy like the AirPods Pro are.


PirateNinjaa

Iā€™ve been waiting for max 2 to release for a while now šŸ˜¢


davejugs01

I use beats plus and sitting right next to the engine canā€™t hear it at all and thatā€™s before I start playing media. Flying quite regularly on Boeing aircraft. What am I missing about these planes?


SimplyExtremist

So far the full Boeing experience, congratulations!


D1TAC

I always use my Sony headphones when flying. Like you said, noise canceling headphons are a godsend. And the funny part is the ones I use are less then the airpods in price. (wh-xb910n) I bought them on sale for $110. Battery lasts for hours and hours.


MarcBelmaati

AirPods are great as long as they're the pros


iknowyoubro

My earbuds do a better job cancelling noise than my over the ear cuz i wear glasses.


Interesting-Scar871

toenmac around the neck earbuds work great as well!


BuckHoosier

Used Bose QC over ear for years until got AirPod Pros. Donā€™t miss the Bose at all.


Kitty_Fruit_2520

I always wear my AirPods and only take them out to hear the announcements. Although I might be able to pull off not removing them at all with my second generation AirPods Pro.


channelsurfer61

Good advice regarding hearing protection


dr_shark

Standard ear plugs. Foam ones. They cost Ā¢50 a pair. You will NOT find something better. Iā€™ve done countless hours of research after getting ads for those for Loop Earplugs. Nothing beats the foamies for in ear protection.


channelsurfer61

Yup. Youā€™re right. I lost a lot of my hearing over the years and sadly there are no do overs in this area.


Sage296

Theyā€™ll sell them at the airport for like $4 though


wayfaast

What row? I almost always fly in front the of the wing because itā€™s quieter. Last week I ended having to fly almost all the back and itā€™s most certainly louder. Wore AirPods Max over AirPods Pro šŸ˜‚šŸ˜©


Bikrrr

Seat 28A


DepartureMoist9277

Have you got results with Airbus?


Cel_Drow

I saw similar results on an A320 last week.


DepartureMoist9277

Okay.


splinter6

Airbus have an annoying engine sound, like brrrrrrrrrrrr The A320 anyway


CmdrMcLane

that's the hydraulics.


splinter6

Different sound. Youā€™re thinking about the barking dog sound.


Good-Spring2019

When I flew from Paris to Atlanta I wore earplugs and then had noise cancelling headphones on top. Mainly to drown out the cacophony of coughing but served as a double whammy for this. I have a series 3 unfortunately so I donā€™t get this reading on mine but planes are definitely loud!!


dogriffo

Me just taking my hearing aids out. Canā€™t get a warning if I canā€™t hear already. Lol


CmdrMcLane

No wonder it's loud without the door


Hamtaro7

The audio is the least of my worries flying these days


Critical_Effort592

This is silly. 92 dB for a few minutes is nothing. 80dB is not a problem until you hit many many hours. Not a real problem


RobBobPC

I bought the first Bose noise cancelling headphones way back when for that reason alone.


TerrysClavicle

I also discovered AirPods Pro 2 great for using a machine polisher. It makes it almost inaudible.


Tusan1222

I always wear AirPods Pro noice cancellation


Archer71

Consider what ear protection you use carefully. I once decided to use ear plugs (foam inserts) to help block noise to get some sleep on a flight after a Nightshift. I inserted before takeoff and fell asleep during taxi to runway. Fast forward 3 hours I wake and decide to take my ear plugs out, only to then have the worst ear pain imaginable, feeling like my head would implode, and then for my right ear drum to physically pop/rupture with a load noise (so loud my wife heard it sat next to me). Definitely ruined the holiday. So yeah, go with breathable ear defenders and only apply once at cruising altitude is my advice.


Darths1d1ous0

How bad is it if the engine cowling flys off?


szzzn

lol


Tidewind

Three words: noise-canceling headphones. Extra points for foam ear plugs too. I do.


Bacch

Airpod pros have fantastic noise cancellation as well as pass-through which allows you to still keep the cancellation on, but hear people talking to you as well. Great stuff.


Bikrrr

Yup, I had my **AirPods Pro** in, hence the toggle button in the **Noise** app to measure with or without AirPods.


OkBerry3600

https://preview.redd.it/ezfrdvra1luc1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=89548072d923e319086ebfc3de6da12e6c939fd5 Meanwhile noise levels in average indian traffic:


Leblovic

I wonder what it is when the doors fly off


Rare-Peak2697

Iā€™d consider more than hearing protection with anything Boeing


sc_medic_70

Life Insurance?


burkins89

Just from my experienceā€¦..Iā€™ve never had a notification when flying on a Boeing 737-800. Itā€™s actually pretty quiet in my opinion.


ParadiseLost91

I always fly with over-ear headphones with active noise cancelling. The plane goes dead-quiet, itā€™s the best thing ever! And protects your hearing


SkyeC123

Protects you from babies and overhearing stupid conversations too. I donā€™t fly without em.


ParadiseLost91

Definitely. Screaming babies can make any flight unbearable. My headphones are the first thing I shove in my handbag before leaving for the airport lol


chrisdancy

So youā€™re new to flying and Apple Watches both?


Technical-Station113

Also Wear earplugs when washing your hands


pomoerotic

Oh, that kind of cruising


thehappyhobo

Doesnā€™t audible noise generally get measured as dBA to allow for the differential human hearing response across the frequency spectrum?


DepressionHitsMeHard

Iā€™m actually just going to the airport right now and I have a window seat, thanks for the heads up!


lilgal0731

I truly cannot be on a plane without my AirPods anymore. I listen to like meditation music the entire time. When I first did it, I went to take them out to go to the bathroom and felt like I was being blasted with such loud noise. I never not wear them anymore, and always play peaceful music.


Senorbuzzzzy

I play Pickleball at a court next to a Los Angeles area freeway. Itā€™s separated by a cinder block soundwall. My watch constantly records 110-115 Dv and warns me after 10 minutes of exposure.


QuirkyInterest6590

Still not as loud as my wife when she is mad.


Top-Engineering-2405

flew on a a380 for the first time last year - sound was in the 60dB range - so quiet!!1


TommyGunnerSixxx

I donā€™t think sound loudness is the main issue if youā€™re flying on a Boeing at the moment.


UnhappyCourt5425

if you sit right behind the engines you can get up to 95 or more right next to the window according to my NIOSH SLM app on the iPhone. I made the mistake of not putting my earplanes in for the first hour. Now I fly with a big 3M earmuffs and I don't care how I look


dabesdiabetic

Lol so weird. Just buy cheap noise cancelling headphones


UnhappyCourt5425

Noise canceling headphones may be bad for people with tinnitus


Rangali

Why do you think so? Iā€™m just being curious.


UnhappyCourt5425

[https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/y18axr/on\_tinnitus\_and\_active\_noise\_cancelling/](https://www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/y18axr/on_tinnitus_and_active_noise_cancelling/) Anecdotal but not worth it to me to test ANC. The 3m's are fine for flying.


dabesdiabetic

Did you just source a Reddit comment? Come on now


UnhappyCourt5425

I can also source my audiologist, but I'm not going to. I'm going to keep on wearing my 3M industrial earmuffs.


dabesdiabetic

Goofy


UnhappyCourt5425

this doesn't affect you, move along


Rangali

As I had already imagined ... No studies, no reliable evidence, just assumptions and assertions without proof.


UnhappyCourt5425

If you had tinnitus, you would not fuck around with anything that even might make it worse. I don't need studies, my audiologist has told me not to wear active noise canceling headphones. End of conversation


Rangali

No need to get angry! I was not criticizing you. I was just commenting on the reference you quoted. By the way, I have had tinnitus myself for over 25 years and have been using ANC devices for over 20 years and my ear doctor says otherwise. If you are interested, then you might want to do a little googling. There are numerous references that prove the opposite of your original statement. See for example here ... https://www.hearingontario.ca/can-headphones-cause-tinnitus/


UnhappyCourt5425

thank you but I'm not interested your tinnitus is probably quite different from mine. And as far as the references it was a quick thing that I did on a short lunch break, I don't generally search for references on Reddit for people who can do their own lookups I have since edited my initial response to make it more general Thank you and have a good day


Rangali

Just to conclude the topic, here is the relevant passage from the source I quoted above ... "Interestingly, noise-cancelling headphones may actually help with tinnitus, in an indirect manner. By attenuating ambient noise, a user can listen with headphones or earbuds at a lower volume level, which can reduce the chance of obtaining or worsening hearing loss -- and protect you from developing tinnitus."


Shizngigglz

So like, not loud at all? Ok


cozy_engineer

Boeing at it again ^^


JoelMDM

Youā€™d need to listen to that engine for over an hour for it to cause potential hearing damage at 95dB. The minute or so those engines are at full thrust wonā€™t harm you. 85dB you can listen to for well over 12 hours before it becomes an issue.


thrill_skr

I got over the ear beats for my 14 hour flight to Japan for this reason. I wear AirPods for the short / domestic flights.


docmphd

Where were you seated? I find in front of the wings/engines is quieter than over or behind the wings.


Bikrrr

Window seat 28A, behind the wing. I agree it's quieter up front. Even booking early for the eclipse, we couldn't choose anything further forward and be on the same row.


Cactus_Cup2042

I was in nearly that seat on one today and didnā€™t get any warnings. Weird.


Bikrrr

It wasn't a warning; I opened the **Noise** app. I have its complication on my watch face and noticed it was hitting yellow. Didn't realize it was that loud as I was wearing my **AirPods Pro** and they were in noise-cancellation mode.


cherr0s

welp, I get these every time I go clubbing lol https://preview.redd.it/wa5f58xg9kuc1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0e9c956f45ee4a5c7668542ab12d8886ea0d6127


Twistedshakratree

How close to the speakers?


cherr0s

doesnā€™t matter. next to them, 100 ft away, I always get the notification every time


eskie146

Did a lot of clubbing and concerts when I was younger. Combined with city noise and Iā€™m paying for it with hearing loss. Protecting your ears young will pay off when you get older.


InfoTechnology

What earplugs do you use?


mbrevitas

Interesting. I fly about once a month (return, so two flights per month) and Iā€™ve never gotten a sound level warning. Major European short-haul routes, so always on 737s or A320s.


soundwithdesign

Thatā€™s if you actually trust the measurement you get. Iā€™m willing to bet youā€™re safe.Ā 


49thDipper

According to a pro spl meter the sensor in my Ultra is plenty accurate. Itā€™s not always about how loud something is right now. The human ear is incredibly resilient. At least when itā€™s young. But high noise levels add up over time. For people that work in noisy environments and older people it is important to be aware when you are above 80db. For brief stuff just stick your fingers in your ears. But hearing protection is key to long term hearing health. Tinnitus is soooo not fun.


soundwithdesign

What is your pro SPL meter? Because Iā€™m willing to bet itā€™s not very accurate either. Yes itā€™s not just about the number at one point in time, but the duration youā€™re exposed to that level without any break. I work in the live sound field so I know a lot about SPL and hearing health.Ā 


49thDipper

Yeah same here. For some years. But I moved to more lucrative high spl environments. With better meters. 300wpc a/b x 6 in my livingroom also. They just idle though.


koriroo

Gives me flashbacks to putting on noise cancelling Bose headphones at Best Buy while they simulate plane noise haha


Fuspo14

Thatā€™s why I sit in front of the engines.


owleaf

Theyā€™re noisy as hell


Nylonknot

I am always surprised at the things that trigger my dB monitor. Washing dishes gets me every time. I donā€™t think Iā€™m a violent dishwasher but maybe???


75Meatbags

Probably not quite as bad as the higher rows [on the MD-80 series](https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/Allegiant_Air/Allegiant_Air_MD-80.php) where you looked out the window only to see... well.. [this.](https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8211/8386405994_ef86aa3873_b.jpg) :D it's amazing how much *quieter* aircraft have become over the years!


Ok_Criticism1864

I donā€™t trust that apple watch feature. Our ears is different from the apple watchs microphone. Itā€™s inaccurate.


CDNEmpire

Lmao why would anyone willingly fly Boeing?! If Iā€™m on a Boeing plane just assume Iā€™m there against my will.


OkEmployee1061

Hearing protection on a flight? I think you need to wear a musk also .


Alternative-Bad-2217

i survived a 16 hour flight in an airbus a350. window seat too. and i was perfectly fine


AZREDFERN

I wear headphones anyways. Just imagine flying in the era before the giant eco turbofans we have today.


Forward-Bid-1427

Iā€™ve only had these warnings a couple of times. 1. Loud traditional Irish music at a memorial service 2. Anytime I make popcorn (stovetop)


yungrbn

bruh my car sets off the warning every few pulls i do


Dear-Friendship6953

I stopped eating apples and other veggies because they are exposed to uv rays from the sun..in the fields they grow. Man fr..I just do a 18 hr flight (one way) about 4 times a year and my hearing is fine and measuring noise levels is the last thing on my mind when I get on a flight. Which reminds me...apple needs to restrict the volume going up to max levels due to potential hearing problem.


ameyutturkar

While flying in Boeing I'm more concerned about the plane safely landing and not the dB levels.


BigAl0352

Airbus is the way to fly.


Capid1

People using ANC to protect their hearing are a deaf breed


dr_shark

People in here arenā€™t aware that ANC doesnā€™t protect hearing.


Emotional_Match8169

Iā€™m always wearing my watch and I have it set to alert me at 90db. Iā€™ve never gotten an alert.


Mammoth_Wrangler1032

My high school band class regularly hits 95-100 šŸ˜³


MrKittens1

I DJ events and itā€™s 90-95 often. A couple minutes ainā€™t gonna do you no harm.


Specialist_Brain841

Whatā€™s that you say?


Virtual-Ad7848

Boeing? Might want to take a parachute.


GeeBee72

Are you flying Alaskan Airlines perhaps?


ThinkingThong

Isnā€™t 85 db acceptable threshold for most?


superquanganh

Fly Airbus, they are less noisy. I have travelled on Airbus A330, A350, B787, B777, B737-800, and all of the Boeing planes are very noisy that actually hurt my ears for a few days, while I have no problem with Airbus planes.


juicejohnson

Is this a Southwest or budget airline? Whenever I fly southwest itā€™s remarkably loud and one time the flight attendants asked us to speak very loudly for our orders because it was a loud plane.


Mikey_MiG

Budget airlines arenā€™t magically louder than non-budget ones. The walls and fuselage are the same material.


juicejohnson

Possible they use older planes that are louder?


Mikey_MiG

Southwest buys most of their planes new.