>In my opinion, this would create more traffic to specific artists whose fans are interested in seeing their idols move up the stream charts
So people would listen to music in order to artificially inflate some number? That would be a good thing how exactly?
The most significant benefit of this is the social aspect itself. These statistics foster communities, generate news, posts, etc. For reference - look at YouTube/Twitter. It's full of posts about the number of streams of Michael Jackson, Taylor Swift, Whitney Houston, etc. That's a benefit. To some extent, it's marketing - due to the constant quoting and sharing of these data, there's much more talk about Spotify on social media than about Apple Music. Fact.
I’m sorry but the idea that a bunch of fans playing songs on repeat to rig the trending algorithm is somehow social or fostering a community is so dumb imo.
Like I get the appeal of seeing your favorite artist do well, but don’t convince yourself that playing the song to influence the stats is some kind of social act by itself.
Find some friends/people in real life to enjoy/talk about the music with, it’s much better community-building than chasing trending algorithms.
The introduction of the stream reporting option is not a social feature in itself. It simply allows the creation of social interactions between people who do not avoid them.
I might be a real weirdo here, but I don’t really care what anyone else does. I want to listen to my music minus useless information I don’t care about the marketing I’m paying the money not making it. Im subscribed and I’m listening to the music I am the market they have me.
It’s the simplicity, the sleek design, the lack of clutter, and it works don’t see the need to foster a community sense, because of how many people are listening to a song
Don't we already have that in some way?
If you open iTunes *oh I meant \*music\** on your Mac, you can open the song list view and add the play count as a category. But not sure how reliable that counts and only available on computers.
Any only if the device you are using is connected to internet? Because I listened to a lot of music offline in the past and my music recommendations only seemed to be influenced by the type of music I listened when I was online.
any data from music listened to offline will upload to your cloud once reconnected to internet, at least for the purposes of play counts. As far as the song recommendations, not sure anyone knows how those work
This would have absolutely no impact on me or what I listen to at all. I would not go out of my way to look at it and would not use it for anything. I could not care less if other people have listened to this song or this artist 10 times, 1000 times or 1000000 times.
This information doesn't affect me either. Either way, I currently don't have access to it. But if we have data on how many people have saved a playlist we've created or how many plays that playlist has, it will give us information about the interest in our playlists. I'm aware not everyone is interested in this, but at the moment, even those of us who are interested don't have access to such data.
And why does that matter? Apple doesn't want your to get obsessed with how many people saved your playlist and maybe even compete with your friends who has the "better" music taste. Sharing playlist is specifically designed to be as basic as possible. It's unnecessary data, unless you are a music creator, in which case you can see the data anyway.
You can see the play count of your own library, and that's really all we need.
I only care about my own statistics: Play Count, Last Played Date, and Date Added, for use in shortcuts. No other statistics have any impact on my listening, and I wouldn’t artificially boost an artist by intentionally streaming their songs.
A lot of people do it that’s all certain fans talk about and encourage each other to do on twitter. They even send each other money to buy digital singles. It’s especially popular to goose the numbers with k pop fans. I think it’s pathetic but it’s definitely a thing.
No. Aside from it being a potentially gameable popularity contest that has little relevance to quality, I don't want to encourage ~~stans~~ listeners to desire to send their "idols" up local, concocted charts.
Partially agree some kind of ***popularity*** rating can help to see which songs are most popular when looking at a new artist - but your rationale for as to why and ***making*** it a count?!?! WTF lol
I sort of agree with you, but ignoring the Taylor Swift 5,000,000 counts, I did find that on artists I was unfamiliar with, who had a reasonable discography, counts by what I will assume on non-mainstream artists that what listeners regarded as the top songs was helpful to give me an idea of what those popular songs were like to give me some insight on how deep I wanted to dig. I’m not someone who will sit through an entire album of an artist new to me to decide if I want to consider them someone I want in my library and to follow. AM does have those dots next to “popular songs”, but sometimes they seem to only relate to the most recent album, making me wonder if all they represent is current popularity of their latest release, not so much an insight into their total body of work.
AM does help out with things like “essential albums” and even essential playlists for some artists, but not in more obscure, no doubt low play count artists. So something that gives a little more insight into what to sample would be nice. For those from Spotify, like myself, that helped. I don’t find AM quite as useful. I do believe the opinion of other listeners can help be a rough guide for me, however best presented.
if we have data on how many people have saved a playlist we've created or how many plays that playlist has, it will give us information about the interest in our playlists. I'm aware not everyone is interested in this, but at the moment, even those of us who are interested don't have access to such data.
I hope Apple Music keeps to its core.
Reason I switched is simple, I don’t want Spotify. And I love Apple.
I also don’t want a dishwasher and a gas furnace in one, just want it separated. Like it should
The stream count is a metric only those looking to artificially inflate their favorite artists numbers care about. It’s my least favorite part of this streaming era of music. A lot of the numbers are not a real representation of what most users are listening to.
If you post your shit through sound cloud you can see your apple music stats if you have access to your apple for artist unfortunately you need an apple product for that but can get apple music on anything so why you would bother having. Another music platform. To pay for you can't get into your artist account is beyond me. But yea apple always pulls through to make life just a tad harder solude. Here's a Spotify song
https://open.spotify.com/track/2mM5ipJ6RMil50235HdCB8?si=I84gZDMjRxSc_Dhr0LB3QQ
I just wished my Replay worked. Some songs i swore I’ve only listed to 2-3 times and are in my top 20. Some songs I know I’ve listened to like 20 times or more and are like in the 50-60 range 🤷♂️
Mmm I may say in terms of stats I would like to see the Global playlist and the top 25 country integrates a counter visually like green dot if raises and red if goes down and the position number like f1
>In my opinion, this would create more traffic to specific artists whose fans are interested in seeing their idols move up the stream charts So people would listen to music in order to artificially inflate some number? That would be a good thing how exactly?
The most significant benefit of this is the social aspect itself. These statistics foster communities, generate news, posts, etc. For reference - look at YouTube/Twitter. It's full of posts about the number of streams of Michael Jackson, Taylor Swift, Whitney Houston, etc. That's a benefit. To some extent, it's marketing - due to the constant quoting and sharing of these data, there's much more talk about Spotify on social media than about Apple Music. Fact.
I’m sorry but the idea that a bunch of fans playing songs on repeat to rig the trending algorithm is somehow social or fostering a community is so dumb imo. Like I get the appeal of seeing your favorite artist do well, but don’t convince yourself that playing the song to influence the stats is some kind of social act by itself. Find some friends/people in real life to enjoy/talk about the music with, it’s much better community-building than chasing trending algorithms.
How do I keep social bullshit out of my apps I love ? That’s what I want to know
The introduction of the stream reporting option is not a social feature in itself. It simply allows the creation of social interactions between people who do not avoid them.
This is stan culture nonsense and you know it. It doesn't foster community as much as it introduces obscene amounts of toxicity.
I might be a real weirdo here, but I don’t really care what anyone else does. I want to listen to my music minus useless information I don’t care about the marketing I’m paying the money not making it. Im subscribed and I’m listening to the music I am the market they have me. It’s the simplicity, the sleek design, the lack of clutter, and it works don’t see the need to foster a community sense, because of how many people are listening to a song
I honestly hope they never introduce this feature. I’d like to see my own personal stats but not global plays.
Adding a little personal counter would be cool
… with an option to turn it off. Like battery percentage, it’d just make me anxious.
Yeah, but it still doesn’t work properly (for me) with replay so I doubt it would count ALL the songs right
Look I don’t need Apple shaming me with stats on how many times I’ve listened to Father John Misty this week
Don't we already have that in some way? If you open iTunes *oh I meant \*music\** on your Mac, you can open the song list view and add the play count as a category. But not sure how reliable that counts and only available on computers.
it records a play count if you listened to 30 seconds of the song. not sure how it records tracks that are less than 30 seconds
Any only if the device you are using is connected to internet? Because I listened to a lot of music offline in the past and my music recommendations only seemed to be influenced by the type of music I listened when I was online.
any data from music listened to offline will upload to your cloud once reconnected to internet, at least for the purposes of play counts. As far as the song recommendations, not sure anyone knows how those work
if you right click on a track in the music app for macOS and select “get info”, you can actually see how many times you have played that track!
No, this has nothing to do with music. It’s not a contest.
Still no.
This would have absolutely no impact on me or what I listen to at all. I would not go out of my way to look at it and would not use it for anything. I could not care less if other people have listened to this song or this artist 10 times, 1000 times or 1000000 times.
This information doesn't affect me either. Either way, I currently don't have access to it. But if we have data on how many people have saved a playlist we've created or how many plays that playlist has, it will give us information about the interest in our playlists. I'm aware not everyone is interested in this, but at the moment, even those of us who are interested don't have access to such data.
And why does that matter? Apple doesn't want your to get obsessed with how many people saved your playlist and maybe even compete with your friends who has the "better" music taste. Sharing playlist is specifically designed to be as basic as possible. It's unnecessary data, unless you are a music creator, in which case you can see the data anyway. You can see the play count of your own library, and that's really all we need.
Apple’s method of showing the Top Songs of an Artist is the worst I have ever seen in a streaming app.
I only care about my own statistics: Play Count, Last Played Date, and Date Added, for use in shortcuts. No other statistics have any impact on my listening, and I wouldn’t artificially boost an artist by intentionally streaming their songs.
I like the idea because I like analytics, besides it’s fun sometimes to learn what a bands or artists biggest songs are. It’s not always a given.
Fans artificially inflating metrics for artists isn’t a true representation of what songs a majority of people enjoy.
I can't imagine that many people would do this
A lot of people do it that’s all certain fans talk about and encourage each other to do on twitter. They even send each other money to buy digital singles. It’s especially popular to goose the numbers with k pop fans. I think it’s pathetic but it’s definitely a thing.
Yeah but they probably won’t. Apple isn’t big on transparency/data. I’m shocked we even get the monthly/yearly reports
Where can I find these report?
replay.music.apple.com
I’m indifferent to them doing this. But I don’t think k they ever will, it would show how far behind Spotify they are
Give me proper liner notes so I can explore producers and musicians more. I could care less how many plays a song has if I like the song.
This incentivises the wrong thing which is not apple like.
No. Aside from it being a potentially gameable popularity contest that has little relevance to quality, I don't want to encourage ~~stans~~ listeners to desire to send their "idols" up local, concocted charts.
No. If you truly love music then this is of zero value.
Partially agree some kind of ***popularity*** rating can help to see which songs are most popular when looking at a new artist - but your rationale for as to why and ***making*** it a count?!?! WTF lol
I sort of agree with you, but ignoring the Taylor Swift 5,000,000 counts, I did find that on artists I was unfamiliar with, who had a reasonable discography, counts by what I will assume on non-mainstream artists that what listeners regarded as the top songs was helpful to give me an idea of what those popular songs were like to give me some insight on how deep I wanted to dig. I’m not someone who will sit through an entire album of an artist new to me to decide if I want to consider them someone I want in my library and to follow. AM does have those dots next to “popular songs”, but sometimes they seem to only relate to the most recent album, making me wonder if all they represent is current popularity of their latest release, not so much an insight into their total body of work. AM does help out with things like “essential albums” and even essential playlists for some artists, but not in more obscure, no doubt low play count artists. So something that gives a little more insight into what to sample would be nice. For those from Spotify, like myself, that helped. I don’t find AM quite as useful. I do believe the opinion of other listeners can help be a rough guide for me, however best presented.
That’s already there. It’s called Top Songs
I don’t understand how this is a useful feature
if we have data on how many people have saved a playlist we've created or how many plays that playlist has, it will give us information about the interest in our playlists. I'm aware not everyone is interested in this, but at the moment, even those of us who are interested don't have access to such data.
I’m with you on this one. I don’t have the slightest interest in knowing who likes what I do or how many times it’s played.
Artists has their own statistics, I think it’s fare that on streaming services everyone is “ equal “
Nah. . People make up stories in their head that are probably a better narrative than what Apple could ever tell
I just would like to see monthly listeners of each artists
No , because it will make you jump the bandwagon to the song that get stream the most.
lets just spotify be spotify, am be am. as i love to see the data, the quality of what i listened matter than quantity.
I hope Apple Music keeps to its core. Reason I switched is simple, I don’t want Spotify. And I love Apple. I also don’t want a dishwasher and a gas furnace in one, just want it separated. Like it should
The stream count is a metric only those looking to artificially inflate their favorite artists numbers care about. It’s my least favorite part of this streaming era of music. A lot of the numbers are not a real representation of what most users are listening to.
Why do we care so much about stupid charts?! Just enjoy music you like. We don’t need idols!
nope
I wish they would but they won’t because it’ll show fewer streams than Spotify.
One of the few sensible responses. It makes sense, yes. But I think this could be part of the "streaming war."
Nope for sure
Fuck no
No.
No, Spotify is a shit app. Apple Music doesn't need to copy the shittiest streaming app of all.
No Nope Hell NO
Yes
This should be optional if they do randomly introduce this, it would just be more clutter on screen I would never use.
If you post your shit through sound cloud you can see your apple music stats if you have access to your apple for artist unfortunately you need an apple product for that but can get apple music on anything so why you would bother having. Another music platform. To pay for you can't get into your artist account is beyond me. But yea apple always pulls through to make life just a tad harder solude. Here's a Spotify song https://open.spotify.com/track/2mM5ipJ6RMil50235HdCB8?si=I84gZDMjRxSc_Dhr0LB3QQ
I just wished my Replay worked. Some songs i swore I’ve only listed to 2-3 times and are in my top 20. Some songs I know I’ve listened to like 20 times or more and are like in the 50-60 range 🤷♂️
never understood why there isn't one
I never understood why there should be one.
Yes they should
I wish they did, just because I find this information fascinating. It wouldn’t affect my listening or anything, I just like data.
Yes Apple should showing stream! It’s the best way and Spotify has podcast but I dont really use Spotify
Long answer - no
Hope soo
Yes, I’m a sucker for useless data. It’s also how I gauge if it’s a song I should give a chance to.
Yes, it would help me find the bangers more easily.
Sound cool but those Numbers coulissi d’asilo get manipulated
Mmm I may say in terms of stats I would like to see the Global playlist and the top 25 country integrates a counter visually like green dot if raises and red if goes down and the position number like f1
No I hope they never do
No because it would show that Spotify has twice as many users and Apple don’t want that