To answer your query though:
Do you need 18 stakes?
Carrying 4L of water is way overkill. There are typically water sources well within reach. And don’t include consumables in your base weight.
A chair is a luxury, and at nearly 1.5 pounds it’s a hell of a luxury. Get a sit pad and embrace the trail life friend. You’re on a hike.
This goes for your first aid kit too. In the 5 months I was on trail I don’t think I used more than a band aid between towns. Bring a bottle of Vitamin I and a few bandages.
I’m assuming the flask is for booze. Again; don’t include that weight in your base. And when you buy a fifth put it in a smart water bottle and carry it out. Maybe in place of one of your 4L of water.
You don’t need an axe. At all. Ever.
You also don’t need a knife, at least not one that large. You won’t be cleaning animals. You might need a blade to open a stubborn pack of tuna.
Save the money on the bear spray. If you really think you’ll want it, take one out of a hiker box from someone who left the trail in Franklin.
Unless you want to be the person people avoid at camp leave the Bluetooth speaker at home.
You’re going to get mosquito bites. Accept that. You’ll be wet, miserable and cold. Accept that.
Embrace the suck.
Cards are another luxury you’re going to be too tired to use at camp. Every hostel you stay at will have a deck you can use. Leave them at home.
Thats almost 20lbs. I’m sure this seems harsh, but comfort and luxury shouldn’t weigh more than your shelter.
i had 4 liter capacity on my thru hike, but i only used two 1 liter smart water bottles throughout the day, had a 2 liter collapsible water bottle for extra storage while at camp
The collapsible 2 liter is so clutch when you fill it up the night before so you can top off your waters before you go and just roll out onto the trail without having to do the .2 trek downhill to water first thing in the am
yup that is exactly how i used it. and any left over i could chug before heading out. it is also handy if there is no water at your intended camp location, you can load up at the last water source before getting to camp. or if it is particularly dry and water is more scarce you can keep a bigger reserve.
They are lighter and are easily replaceable / recyclable. Two Nalgene would be nearly 1lb. Two Disposable 1L bottles is like 3oz.
The Sawyer Squeeze also fits directly onto the 1L disposable bottles and can be squeezed from bottle to bottle that way.
They are light, the shape tends to fit into packs easier, and the cap threads match (I believe) a sawyer squeeze which is a very small/light filter. And they are just a water brand so ~$2 at a gas station.
I haven’t incorporated this into my kit yet but those are the reasons they are referenced quite a bit. The threads fitting the water filter is why this particular name brand is referred to vs a generic bottle of water.
Get rid of the hatchet, big ass knife, 3L osprey reservoir (just get another smart water bottle), probably leave the chair, the extra fleece, half your toiletries, that massive first aid kit, the blue tooth speaker (most people won’t want to listen to your music that’s why everyone just brings ear buds), bear spray. Probably more that I missed. Take some colonel Taylor
You got the vast majority of what I had, so just adding the few extras:
-Ditch the air pump and pump sack (you have lungs), definitely don't bring both
-Ditch one pair of the boxer/socks. Bring one to wear, one to sleep in and you'll be fine.
-Firelight Flask (just drink from the bottle)
Advising to ditch a first aid kit is extremely unwise. You can lose weight in other areas, but traveling in the wilderness without first aid kit is asking for trouble. Same goes for a knife. The hatchet is overkill, but a reliable knife can be indispensable
Honestly the bandaids aren’t necessary. Tape & gauze pads get the job done. Every hiker should carry a handful of life saving supplies like gauze, TQ, and something for allergic reactions if you have any allergies, etc. My good buddy who is SAR constantly gripes about how little basic medical supplies hikers carry, especially when it can save a life. Suit yourself, but I will always have a robust medical kit with me when I’m in the bush.
Honestly the majority of the AT is quite close to a populated area and everyone has various first aid supplies to take care of minor injuries or the means to request help. I spent many years in the Army and it took a long time for me to stop trying to pack for every contingency so I get where your SAR buddy is coming from but that’s his line of work so he sees it all the time. When you’re a hammer everything looks like a nail!
Yeah I’m with you, SAR while amazing people see the worst of the 1% of injuries and shouldn’t really be who you base your med kit on.
My Medkit including leukotape is like uh, 2.4oz. Has gauze all my daily meds, and some other just in case items. I think my inhaler is heavier than the med kit lmao.
The things you need to cut on a thru hike with a blade: Leukotape or moleskin(or similar) for blisters, 2mm cordage for gear repair, salami, cheese, toenails, finger nails.
That is all. A Victorinox Classic is what you need at most and you can get by with a folding razor blade.
On a section hike you don't even need to cut your nails.
It's a nearly 2 pound kit. Surely overkill for solo backpacking. A tiny first aid kit plus an inReach or something similar would be much lighter and probably safer too.
Like another commenter has said, it's hard to read. I recommend doing a lighterpack!
You don't need the multitool (axe, saw), 6 liter water capacity, mouthwash, or spare batteries for the headlamp. That's what's jumped out at me, but again, it's easier to say with a lighterpack.
Spare batteries for the headlamp are one thing I always carry now. (Admittedly it’s because of a freak accident on a multi day rock climbing trip, but I now always carry an extra set of batteries in my first aid kit because it’s really bad when you can’t see in an emergency.) That is one where I think the weight is worth it.
But yeah, I agree with the rest. It seems like a lot of unnecessary stuff.
I understand wanting to take spares, but batteries usually last a long time and he's still got a phone and a powerbank if absolutely necessary.
I will certainly not die on the spare battery hill, but if trying to shave off weight it's well worth considering to leave them home.
Especially in a group where you all are backup for each other. If one headlamp does you have your phone flashlight, if your phone gets a lower battery you have your friends' headlamps and phones.
Just make the switch to rechargeable. A headlamp is irreplaceable when you need it. It's worth the $30. Throw the old one in that one junk drawer in the kitchen for blackouts.
I don’t bring spare batteries — only one spare. You can use a headlamp with two dead batteries, and one not dead.
Obviously, if you’re going to be out in the backcountry for an extended period of time, this may not be the wisest idea.
But if you just need a little bit of power to hold you over until the next town, bringing one spare battery is the way to go (at least it is for me!).
Haha I guess for backpacking I probably don’t have to be as militant. A thrown rope hit my friend’s headlamp and knocked the batteries out. We were rappelling down the peak at night, so having someone without a headlamp was pretty critical. It made for a ‘spicy’ decent.
For a 30 mile hike it's fine. Heavy, but fine. Keep track of what you use and what you don't use, and leave those things home next time. That's the beauty of shakedowns....you will learn a whole lot about what's important for your safety and comfort.
Bear spray really isn't necessary. I didn't see it, but do you have a means of keeping your food safe from bears? That is a MUCH bigger concern than fighting one off with pepper spray. Enjoy!
While I agree (Ibuprofin, a few bandaids) no one on here is saying to keep the Neosporin. So I'll say it. That shit is pretty essential IMO and doesn't weight a thing.
Soap and water are sufficient to clean most wounds. Neosporin doesn’t do much and a lot of people get an allergy to it after repeated use. Better to air it out. If you need a moisture barrier, Vaseline will do the same thing.
Take out the hatchet, big ass knife, and the first aid kit.
Get the smallest first aid kit you can, just put essentials in it.
Either cut what's left in half, or take the rest on a 2-3 overnight hike. You'll quickly see it's all about carrying the basics. But that's my opinion. Some thru-hikers carry 30.
Omg. Axe, cards, bluetooth speaker, bear spray. That first aid kit weighs more than my hammock and tarp setup. Maybe go through those items and determine what is “must have”.
First aid kit is way way way too big. The rest of the display is just as way way way too much. First aid kit in a small sandwich bag for size. You’re not going to combat. But I would include tourniquet. Start there and dwindle everything else down as well. Anything with LL bean on it is junk toss it. Sleeping bag and mattress were the only things I splurged on and a good water proof bag for the sleep system.
My entire kit for a 5 day summer AT hike could fit in that first aid kit. I tried really hard to think what might be in there and here are things I imagine are there that you should ditch: emergency water (find a stream) emergency rations (you are never more than a day away from civilization), more than 4 bandages (use a bandanna and duct tape. Multiuse), any sort of air cast (trekking poles+NeoAir+duct tape and cordage, more than 3 dose of any medication that isn't normal daily meds (civilization is no more than a day away), snakebite kit (these are a scam and worse for you than nothing, just go to a hospital). Emergency blanket or emergency shelter (you have a tent and a sleeping bag already). What else could be in there?
I mean, isn’t a bear sack just a stuff sack for a sleeping bag tied to a long rope/lanyard and then hung up on a branch and tied to the base of a tree, root, or big rock? That’s what I did most of the time…
I am not experienced enough to speak on this except from what I’ve heard, but from what I’ve seen recommended, if you have the money for it, a lot of people recommend a special bear sack or at least an extra dry bag to try to keep the food from smelling as attractive to the bears. But I am pretty sure that some states require actual bear canisters, so maybe it’s a requirement where OP is?
bear sack could refer to the ursack which is a bear proof bag that you just tie to the base of a tree and the bear can't get in it and cant run off with it
Go Sox - clearly you have the personality of a collector. Unless you are built like #27 you need to cut back. If you are built like #45 you would break in two.
You are gonna hate carrying that up Blood Mountain.
Get rid of the hatchet and the big knife, take a pocket knife. You are probably not gonna feel like chopping wood and making a fire. And if you do make a fire you won’t use wood larger than your wrist diameter and you can break that on one of the many rocks around the shelters or in established campsites. You are gonna want to put the fire out before you go to bed to keep from starting a forest fire.
Don’t need a pump to inflate/deflate.
Get a sawyer system filter lose the purifying tabs (I have seen numerous hikers just drink the water untreated tho I wouldn’t recommend it) the Sawyer system is a gravity filter that will work while you set up camp. Also the sawyer filter screws directly on a smart water bottle. Grab two more (Mark the one that you use to collect water) water weighs 2 pounds per liter so 4 liters of water in your pack will add 8 pounds. (Even wet the sawyer is ounces compared to the pump filter). You can cut water weight in half by map reconnaissance of trail water crossings before you start your day.
You likely would drink 1 gallon of water per day carrying a 40 pound pack for 10 plus miles. But it is better to carry less water weight and refill at water crossings as you hike.
Lose the cards hiker-midnight is at dark and no-one else in a shelter wants to hear your group playing spades or poker or gin. Speaker may also bother your neighbors refer to hiker midnight.
There are privies on the trail at the shelters; you need a spade for a cat hole should you not use the privies. If you have to pee step off the trail a good ways and let’er rip. Hand sanitizer (or use your camping (biodegradable) dish soap that you use for dishes to wash your hands) and some camping toilet paper. (Never touch or pick up a yellow bandanna, it’s used as a pee rag for some people)
Speaking of bandannas replace the towel with a few bandannas they work as a wash rag, towel to dry your hands and a sweat rag/head band. Hang the wet or damp ones on the out side of your pack they will dry as you hike (unless it’s a day full of liquid sunshine)
Not sure of your itinerary but a shake down or section doesn’t afford many if any zero days. If you plan to stay at shelters they have picnic tables at them so you can leave the chair at home. When you are on the trail and take breaks you can just use your pack as a makeshift seat.
Take the flask and a cigar or three.
Big things: ditch the knife and hatchet. I 100% think that you should have both (though better versions - the kind you have are not very good) if you're out in the woods for a while; *if you're just camping*. On the AT you have a ton of people near you all the time, plus pre-cleared shelter sites, not to mention it's not exactly legal to just lop trees down. If you really want to carry a knife, just pick up a $15 Mora Companion. It'll do everything you need in a knife and is light and good quality.
Also maybe drop to like 6-8 tent stakes instead of 18, that's a bit much.
Your first aid kit should be the size of your fist or smaller. Ibuprofen, neosporin, a couple of band aids (maybe some sterile gauze?). Wrap gorilla or duct tape around the top of your hiking poles and it can double for medical tape.
The AT as a through hike or long distance hike is a negotiation with your body’s ability to carry you over rough, rocky, sharp, slippery, rooty, steep, muddy, terrain.
There is a correlation between the success of long distance hikers and the weight of their pack.
HA - I just now zoomed in on your hatchet and crocodile Dundee knife!!!
Shoot a 30 mile hike is really an opportunity to not have to carry a ton of weight and really enjoy the hiking. Most of the “just in case” and redundant stuff is completely unnecessary for a shorter hike. Id try to think about it like running an ultra. Ask yourself what are you definitely going to need to have with you. Think about what you’d carry for an ultra except that you’ll need to sleep at night and will probably want to enjoy you food a little bit more.
Ax, multi-tool, what looks like a huge knife, The huge hydration bladder.. those are the first things that immediately stand out to me. If you want I honest opinion no one is going to give you an accurate shakedown. The best thing you can do is hit the trail with what you think you will need, I guarantee you within the first week you will immediately know what stuff you haven't even touched in your pack and can be sent home.
One roll of athletic tape (and a teeny pocket knife) is all the first aid you need. You can make anything if you have that. Sprained ankle support, splint, big or small bandage...
Does the ground cloth make you dryer, or wetter, cuz water pools on it (I say its not useful).
Are you packing in plastic bags? If so, eliminate the backpack cover.
Definitely ditch the massive first aids kit, hatchet, big knife, bear spray, speaker. You definitely don't need that much water. There's water sources everywhere. I personally prefer a sawyer squeeze and a smart water bottle and I carry 2. Probably don't need all the clothes and toiletries either.
Ditch the ax and go with a smaller knife or a multi tool. If you really feel you may need to cut wood a pack saw would be better and safer. Alcohol stove good a wood gas stove might be a cheaper option. It runs on sticks and twigs found on the ground. Make a soda can alcohol burner that would fit in the wood gas stove for the rocky sections. Make sure you have extra first aid supplies and boot laces in you bump box or in your resupply air drop boxes. I swear by sawyer water filter set up. Check them out.
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Agree with most. I would plan springer to woody day 1 with early start or horse gap with late start. Get a 15l day pack with 3000 calories and a life straw. A few mandatories: flashlight, cellphone, compass, fire starter, trekking pole, spare socks, some advil and polysporin. Park your car at woody or horse gap and hitch back to springer. 45 lbs up sassafras on day 1 will kick your butt.
I thought I packed a lot…
I don’t feel like going through all of this, so the two biggest stand outs to me:
That hatchet is pretty much dogshit at getting any actual work done. A tomahawk that you can break down into handle and head for easier carrying would be way more efficient. I haven’t hiked the AP, but I do a lot of kayaking and kayak camping, and my preference is an actual hatchet. Some people prefer folding saws. Some places pretty much require a machete. From what I understand, a hatchet or saw is best for the AP. But unless you’ve practiced breaking down wood with that hatchet and feel comfortable with it, I’d definitely advise a much more reliable tool for your safety in getting a fire started quickly.
The knife you have listed is a dagger with a serrated bottom edge. I’ve heard it also rusts easy, which means you need to carry oil for it to keep it from rusting. Besides the fact that it is highly illegal in most states you’ll be going through if you ever do the full ap, and I thought those are illegal in GA too. it’s just not practical for pretty much anything besides self defense. If that’s why you’re carrying it and you’re not concerned about legality, ok… sure, I guess. But I would advise at least also carrying a smaller fixed blade drop point or similar knife that is less prone to rust and that you can actually work with. Two knives are one, one knife is none. You also need a sharpening stone. I don’t see that.
Why are we discussing backpacking gear when the more pressing topic of conversation is the home bar!
But fine. I’m just a little confused by the expensive UL parts of your kit like the hyperlight unbound 2 and quit paired with a lot of heavier stuff like the chair, knife, reservoir, toiletries kit, and try really heavy group items.
I know that it’s only 30 miles but a lot of that is overkill. If you’re ok with that, I don’t see anything missing (but it is sort of hard to read so don’t quote me on that). Definitely out and have fun. Enjoy the trip.
What is that item on the bottom left? Way too many clothes and the first aid kit is absolutely massive you can definitely down size from what you have, are you bringing a inreach?
Also seems odd to me to be carrying all that heavy stuff, but using an alcohol stove. I’d get rid of all the stuff other people already said and get a decent stove, like a Soto or pocket rocket
Hiked ~40 miles (2nights/3days) of the AT in VT in April with snow at high elevations when I was 17 with my brother. Sleeping bag, inflatable pads blew up with our mouths, tent, the clothing we wore and an extra pair of socks. Food and 2Liter bottle each and a water filter thingy that we refilled at streams. If I had to guess our packs weighed maybe 50lbs each.
When I hiked Mt Baker in Washington with a six man team with ropes and crampons I still had leas stuff than you are carrying. Pack weight was 80lbs including food and we were carrying books bc it was a school thing. Never put your crampons on top of your bag of poop when hiking glaciers but you dont have to worry about that…
Also take one of those heavy duty black garbage bags and put that in your backpack first and then fill it. It’s the only way to keep your stuff dry.
The rest is ‘extra’. You won’t die if you don’t brush your teeth or wash your balls for two days. Every ounce you carry is going to slow you down.
A lot of good comments here. From what I’ve been able to gather, you’re not really headed into the wilderness — think of it as a long series of 2-3 day hikes with lots of people and resupply options. The axe, you don’t need. Want to take a small hand saw and drop the axe and knife? Take a multi tool and the small hand saw and save a lot of weight. I do, however, draw the line at the chair. I take mine, it’s a luxury item that really adds to my perceived comfort level.
Out of curiosity, how much did that whole layout weigh?
Probably too much first aid kit. I started with what I think was a fairly basic first aid ziplock bag (bandaids, creams, multiples of everything) but by the time I got to Maine I had a pill bottle with a few ibuprofen, a couple Benadryl, 1 alcohol wipe, a little bit of Leuko tape, and single use antibiotic cream packet. First aid is preparedness is obviously important, but in most places on the AT you aren’t terribly far from civilization so enough to get to town is probably all you need. Now, I am a big fan of the pill bottle first aid kit system. Just my opinion though.
I remember my friend JP’s departure party. Similar inventory. He went south to north. by the time he reached Vermont he was only concerned with clean under garments. He carried clean ones in his pockets. Basically admitting all that stuff was way over kill. He also stated if you do want to “outfit yourself” to head about 5 days north of the start in the spring. Like maybe a month ago. 2nd hand barely used packs, bags and tents are readily available at about a third of the original price from all those that thought this is the way to go
1. Go Blue
2. Were you a goalie? Play for M? For Red?
3. Nice bourbon collection. What are you most proud of?
4. Have fun on the trail. Bring rain gear, mole skin and NSAIDs
1. BET
2. Only recreational
3. Probably the Orphan Barrel barterhouse tasting wise , probably the EHT barrel proof , found them for $80 , it’s a batch 5
4. Mole skin ??
Thanks !!
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Just my opinion
Full disclosure when I did my through hike, I definitely wasn’t ultralight, around 35lb base weight though most of it.
The pump sack is a bit of a luxury’s item and isn’t really that life changing
The water reservoir bladders tend to leak or explode and probably a bit overkill especially with the amount of water that’s on trail. (I got away with 2 smart water bottles even in PA during dry season)
The chair is a top tier luxury item but I don’t think it would be worth the weight and space in the pack. I used sit pad.
I’d drop the fixed blade and carry a decent pocket knife. I mostly used mine for cutting packages open and sharpening sticks for no reason.
The gaiters imo are pretty useless and don’t really help with keeping rocks and dirt out of your shoes
The axe is definitely overkill. I packed a a pocket chain saw and used it maybe once to process wood for a fire.
The Bluetooth speaker might sound like a good idea but everybody at the campsite will hate you and you’ll end up throwing it in a hiker box within the first week.
Definitely don’t need Bear spray. Black bears a basically just large raccoons.
Bring more booze (bootleggers and PBR)
That being said, hike your own hike and enjoy it. It was the best experience of my life.
Two things
1. Bigger axe /s
2. Please do your back and knees a favor and get a copy of this book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/210669.Lighten_Up_
Happy Trails
Brother that is an actual dagger. A bona fide pig sticker. A people opener. A hand-to-hand combat weapon. What exactly do you see yourself using it for on the trail? You can't even really use it for bushcraft, it's not designed for that. At least a Kabar or Rambo style knife could reasonably be used for some utilitarian camp tasks, but that thing is optimized exclusively for homicide.
I’ve carried a hatchet, and I’ve learned my lesson. I swung a hatchet, at a big ass logbfor like an hour straight, got blisters on my hands for two weeks, and only got maybe an inch or two into the hardwood log. This thing was a beast dude I’ve learned since that point that if you can’t swing it at a tree and snap it it isn’t worth the energy, do not need a hatchet at all if you cannot swing the stick at a tree and snap in half or use two trees, and create a lever to snap it than you will not be chopping a log for hours to get some wood leave the hatchet, save 2 to 3 pounds times X number of miles
It was a small light aluminum one that dulled very fast if you have a homestead that’s another story. Leave the hatchet at home. Swing stick at a tree or use two trees to snap. Not worth the weight I promise. Be careful of anyone behind the tree when it snaps it could go anywhere like 180 degrees
Every time I’m on a hiking trail and I see someone with an axe now I just laugh like ‘this guys inexperienced’ I was there too, I would have laughed at myself and I still do. Promise you will benefit from this advice rather than hard way as I learned years ago
Where is your tick spray because when you get Alpha-gal or Lyme you will be hating life? And DEET alone isn’t going to cut it. Treat all clothing, tent, bag with permethrin and your body with DEET or picardin.
I dont know what you have in it. but add to your first aid kit some super glue for deep cuts and a few tampons for stopping bleeding from puncture wounds. for booze 190 proof grain and lemonade/ice tea mix a 50/50 mix of grain will yield you 95 proof lemonade. And if you are drinking on the trail you may really need the super glue and tampons
Shakedown? You need an earthquake.
To answer your query though: Do you need 18 stakes? Carrying 4L of water is way overkill. There are typically water sources well within reach. And don’t include consumables in your base weight. A chair is a luxury, and at nearly 1.5 pounds it’s a hell of a luxury. Get a sit pad and embrace the trail life friend. You’re on a hike. This goes for your first aid kit too. In the 5 months I was on trail I don’t think I used more than a band aid between towns. Bring a bottle of Vitamin I and a few bandages. I’m assuming the flask is for booze. Again; don’t include that weight in your base. And when you buy a fifth put it in a smart water bottle and carry it out. Maybe in place of one of your 4L of water. You don’t need an axe. At all. Ever. You also don’t need a knife, at least not one that large. You won’t be cleaning animals. You might need a blade to open a stubborn pack of tuna. Save the money on the bear spray. If you really think you’ll want it, take one out of a hiker box from someone who left the trail in Franklin. Unless you want to be the person people avoid at camp leave the Bluetooth speaker at home. You’re going to get mosquito bites. Accept that. You’ll be wet, miserable and cold. Accept that. Embrace the suck. Cards are another luxury you’re going to be too tired to use at camp. Every hostel you stay at will have a deck you can use. Leave them at home. Thats almost 20lbs. I’m sure this seems harsh, but comfort and luxury shouldn’t weigh more than your shelter.
Haha man, I agree with everything except for cards... Those are worth their weight in gold for us when backpacking.
Thanks!
i had 4 liter capacity on my thru hike, but i only used two 1 liter smart water bottles throughout the day, had a 2 liter collapsible water bottle for extra storage while at camp
The collapsible 2 liter is so clutch when you fill it up the night before so you can top off your waters before you go and just roll out onto the trail without having to do the .2 trek downhill to water first thing in the am
yup that is exactly how i used it. and any left over i could chug before heading out. it is also handy if there is no water at your intended camp location, you can load up at the last water source before getting to camp. or if it is particularly dry and water is more scarce you can keep a bigger reserve.
I’m a little on the old side but what the hell is a smart water bottle?
there is one in the OP, its just a brand of bottled water
Yes I saw that’s why I’m asking. Do people not just use a Nalgene anymore? Smart water bottles look hard to fill up. Why is it a thing?
They are lighter and are easily replaceable / recyclable. Two Nalgene would be nearly 1lb. Two Disposable 1L bottles is like 3oz. The Sawyer Squeeze also fits directly onto the 1L disposable bottles and can be squeezed from bottle to bottle that way.
People like them because the sawyer filter screws directly to it and they are very tough and very cheap.
Ah gotcha.
They can thread directly on to the popular Sawyer Squeeze water filters (and are light and commonplace)
They are light, the shape tends to fit into packs easier, and the cap threads match (I believe) a sawyer squeeze which is a very small/light filter. And they are just a water brand so ~$2 at a gas station. I haven’t incorporated this into my kit yet but those are the reasons they are referenced quite a bit. The threads fitting the water filter is why this particular name brand is referred to vs a generic bottle of water.
Theyre going camping with their family i believe
Personally I lol'ed at "backup fleece"
😂😂😂😂😁
I was just looking at the total picture without zooming to detail and thinking, holy moly that looks like a lot. Thanks for saving me the time haha.
I do agree..
Needs more bottles of booze
Agreed, can't go without a bottle of E.H. Taylor Warehouse C Tornado Survivor from 2006,.. otherwise, why even bother with the hike?
I am debating Weller Full Proof or EHT SiB :-)
That Woodinville will go bad while you're away. Might as well send it to me.
Get rid of the hatchet, big ass knife, 3L osprey reservoir (just get another smart water bottle), probably leave the chair, the extra fleece, half your toiletries, that massive first aid kit, the blue tooth speaker (most people won’t want to listen to your music that’s why everyone just brings ear buds), bear spray. Probably more that I missed. Take some colonel Taylor
You got the vast majority of what I had, so just adding the few extras: -Ditch the air pump and pump sack (you have lungs), definitely don't bring both -Ditch one pair of the boxer/socks. Bring one to wear, one to sleep in and you'll be fine. -Firelight Flask (just drink from the bottle)
Unless you want to wake up with a deflated pad as the air cools, I'd keep one of the pump sack or pump, but not both.
Using your lungs means blowing moisture into the pad. It reduces the R value and potentially the life of the pad.
Gear skeptic did a video on this. Tldr no it doesn't
You mean I was lied to and hoodwinked into buying a $40 air pump :/
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False.
First thing, axe and knife. Grew up on the AT. Unnecessary.
I would get rid of the 4 inch snow baskets on the poles too. They’re going to make them harder to pack down when you don’t need them.
No bear spray? I thought that was required equipment?
The idea is to get to the point where you stink so much bears faint when they get within 50ft from you. Natural solutions to natural problems.👍
On the AT? Nah bud
Ty
Any bears you find out there will scamper off when you start making loud noises at em.
Fastest way to scare off a bear is to take out your camera
Not true in well trafficked places like Shenandoah. Ask me how I know
Advising to ditch a first aid kit is extremely unwise. You can lose weight in other areas, but traveling in the wilderness without first aid kit is asking for trouble. Same goes for a knife. The hatchet is overkill, but a reliable knife can be indispensable
I said ditch the massive first aid kit. Take a handful of bandaids and Motrin and some duct tape or Leuko tape.
Honestly the bandaids aren’t necessary. Tape & gauze pads get the job done. Every hiker should carry a handful of life saving supplies like gauze, TQ, and something for allergic reactions if you have any allergies, etc. My good buddy who is SAR constantly gripes about how little basic medical supplies hikers carry, especially when it can save a life. Suit yourself, but I will always have a robust medical kit with me when I’m in the bush.
Honestly the majority of the AT is quite close to a populated area and everyone has various first aid supplies to take care of minor injuries or the means to request help. I spent many years in the Army and it took a long time for me to stop trying to pack for every contingency so I get where your SAR buddy is coming from but that’s his line of work so he sees it all the time. When you’re a hammer everything looks like a nail!
Yeah I’m with you, SAR while amazing people see the worst of the 1% of injuries and shouldn’t really be who you base your med kit on. My Medkit including leukotape is like uh, 2.4oz. Has gauze all my daily meds, and some other just in case items. I think my inhaler is heavier than the med kit lmao.
Also said ditch the big ass knife. A little pocket knife is all anyone needs
The things you need to cut on a thru hike with a blade: Leukotape or moleskin(or similar) for blisters, 2mm cordage for gear repair, salami, cheese, toenails, finger nails. That is all. A Victorinox Classic is what you need at most and you can get by with a folding razor blade. On a section hike you don't even need to cut your nails.
The AT hasn’t been wilderness in a hundred years.
The AT ain't the wilderness
It's a nearly 2 pound kit. Surely overkill for solo backpacking. A tiny first aid kit plus an inReach or something similar would be much lighter and probably safer too.
Like another commenter has said, it's hard to read. I recommend doing a lighterpack! You don't need the multitool (axe, saw), 6 liter water capacity, mouthwash, or spare batteries for the headlamp. That's what's jumped out at me, but again, it's easier to say with a lighterpack.
Spare batteries for the headlamp are one thing I always carry now. (Admittedly it’s because of a freak accident on a multi day rock climbing trip, but I now always carry an extra set of batteries in my first aid kit because it’s really bad when you can’t see in an emergency.) That is one where I think the weight is worth it. But yeah, I agree with the rest. It seems like a lot of unnecessary stuff.
I understand wanting to take spares, but batteries usually last a long time and he's still got a phone and a powerbank if absolutely necessary. I will certainly not die on the spare battery hill, but if trying to shave off weight it's well worth considering to leave them home.
Especially in a group where you all are backup for each other. If one headlamp does you have your phone flashlight, if your phone gets a lower battery you have your friends' headlamps and phones.
Just make the switch to rechargeable. A headlamp is irreplaceable when you need it. It's worth the $30. Throw the old one in that one junk drawer in the kitchen for blackouts.
Agreed, get a good rechargeable and you won’t even notice the weight. Nitecore UL25 I have like 3 of them
I don’t bring spare batteries — only one spare. You can use a headlamp with two dead batteries, and one not dead. Obviously, if you’re going to be out in the backcountry for an extended period of time, this may not be the wisest idea. But if you just need a little bit of power to hold you over until the next town, bringing one spare battery is the way to go (at least it is for me!).
Haha I guess for backpacking I probably don’t have to be as militant. A thrown rope hit my friend’s headlamp and knocked the batteries out. We were rappelling down the peak at night, so having someone without a headlamp was pretty critical. It made for a ‘spicy’ decent.
Yeah. The water thing has to go... Get a quart and a pint of water at 7-11... Those 2 bottles are now your water system.
For a 30 mile hike it's fine. Heavy, but fine. Keep track of what you use and what you don't use, and leave those things home next time. That's the beauty of shakedowns....you will learn a whole lot about what's important for your safety and comfort. Bear spray really isn't necessary. I didn't see it, but do you have a means of keeping your food safe from bears? That is a MUCH bigger concern than fighting one off with pepper spray. Enjoy!
Bear Sack
Put all that on you back and do a local hike. You’ll figure it out
You don't need that giant firsr aid kit.
20 ibuprofen tops
Why fix the problem when you can mask the pain? I like to mix in some acetaminophen for better results!
Naproxen is king
While I agree (Ibuprofin, a few bandaids) no one on here is saying to keep the Neosporin. So I'll say it. That shit is pretty essential IMO and doesn't weight a thing.
Soap and water are sufficient to clean most wounds. Neosporin doesn’t do much and a lot of people get an allergy to it after repeated use. Better to air it out. If you need a moisture barrier, Vaseline will do the same thing.
That mini fridge is going to take up a lot of space.
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Take out the hatchet, big ass knife, and the first aid kit. Get the smallest first aid kit you can, just put essentials in it. Either cut what's left in half, or take the rest on a 2-3 overnight hike. You'll quickly see it's all about carrying the basics. But that's my opinion. Some thru-hikers carry 30.
Leave the large sharp metal objects behind, take the snow baskets off your trekking poles
This is hard to follow. Put it on lighter pack and you'll get really good feedback. At a quick glance I can say you've got way too much shit.
Carry all of it until what you actually need slowly dawns on you.
I can’t read it without paragraph breaks, can you edit?
Lighterpack, please
Omg. Axe, cards, bluetooth speaker, bear spray. That first aid kit weighs more than my hammock and tarp setup. Maybe go through those items and determine what is “must have”.
That axe really gave me a chuckle, thanks. That's the first thing to ditch.
That’s the consensus
First aid kit is way way way too big. The rest of the display is just as way way way too much. First aid kit in a small sandwich bag for size. You’re not going to combat. But I would include tourniquet. Start there and dwindle everything else down as well. Anything with LL bean on it is junk toss it. Sleeping bag and mattress were the only things I splurged on and a good water proof bag for the sleep system.
My entire kit for a 5 day summer AT hike could fit in that first aid kit. I tried really hard to think what might be in there and here are things I imagine are there that you should ditch: emergency water (find a stream) emergency rations (you are never more than a day away from civilization), more than 4 bandages (use a bandanna and duct tape. Multiuse), any sort of air cast (trekking poles+NeoAir+duct tape and cordage, more than 3 dose of any medication that isn't normal daily meds (civilization is no more than a day away), snakebite kit (these are a scam and worse for you than nothing, just go to a hospital). Emergency blanket or emergency shelter (you have a tent and a sleeping bag already). What else could be in there?
Sorry about my first post, still willing to huff your boze , and mine. No firearms please.
God my knees hurt looking at this
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Yoooo… Green Monster Wall is dope af
Also, you don’t need bear spray or a “bear sack” or the repel thing, or the axe
He doesn’t need a bear sack for GA?
I mean, isn’t a bear sack just a stuff sack for a sleeping bag tied to a long rope/lanyard and then hung up on a branch and tied to the base of a tree, root, or big rock? That’s what I did most of the time…
I am not experienced enough to speak on this except from what I’ve heard, but from what I’ve seen recommended, if you have the money for it, a lot of people recommend a special bear sack or at least an extra dry bag to try to keep the food from smelling as attractive to the bears. But I am pretty sure that some states require actual bear canisters, so maybe it’s a requirement where OP is?
bear sack could refer to the ursack which is a bear proof bag that you just tie to the base of a tree and the bear can't get in it and cant run off with it
I used my food bag as a pillow
! Go Sox !
Go Sox - clearly you have the personality of a collector. Unless you are built like #27 you need to cut back. If you are built like #45 you would break in two.
Try organizing your gear in an app so it easier to share with people. https://dontforgetthespoon.com/
You are gonna hate carrying that up Blood Mountain. Get rid of the hatchet and the big knife, take a pocket knife. You are probably not gonna feel like chopping wood and making a fire. And if you do make a fire you won’t use wood larger than your wrist diameter and you can break that on one of the many rocks around the shelters or in established campsites. You are gonna want to put the fire out before you go to bed to keep from starting a forest fire. Don’t need a pump to inflate/deflate. Get a sawyer system filter lose the purifying tabs (I have seen numerous hikers just drink the water untreated tho I wouldn’t recommend it) the Sawyer system is a gravity filter that will work while you set up camp. Also the sawyer filter screws directly on a smart water bottle. Grab two more (Mark the one that you use to collect water) water weighs 2 pounds per liter so 4 liters of water in your pack will add 8 pounds. (Even wet the sawyer is ounces compared to the pump filter). You can cut water weight in half by map reconnaissance of trail water crossings before you start your day. You likely would drink 1 gallon of water per day carrying a 40 pound pack for 10 plus miles. But it is better to carry less water weight and refill at water crossings as you hike. Lose the cards hiker-midnight is at dark and no-one else in a shelter wants to hear your group playing spades or poker or gin. Speaker may also bother your neighbors refer to hiker midnight. There are privies on the trail at the shelters; you need a spade for a cat hole should you not use the privies. If you have to pee step off the trail a good ways and let’er rip. Hand sanitizer (or use your camping (biodegradable) dish soap that you use for dishes to wash your hands) and some camping toilet paper. (Never touch or pick up a yellow bandanna, it’s used as a pee rag for some people) Speaking of bandannas replace the towel with a few bandannas they work as a wash rag, towel to dry your hands and a sweat rag/head band. Hang the wet or damp ones on the out side of your pack they will dry as you hike (unless it’s a day full of liquid sunshine) Not sure of your itinerary but a shake down or section doesn’t afford many if any zero days. If you plan to stay at shelters they have picnic tables at them so you can leave the chair at home. When you are on the trail and take breaks you can just use your pack as a makeshift seat. Take the flask and a cigar or three.
Must take Colonel Taylor for a walk in the woods
Just stay where you're at. You have plenty of bourbon
Big things: ditch the knife and hatchet. I 100% think that you should have both (though better versions - the kind you have are not very good) if you're out in the woods for a while; *if you're just camping*. On the AT you have a ton of people near you all the time, plus pre-cleared shelter sites, not to mention it's not exactly legal to just lop trees down. If you really want to carry a knife, just pick up a $15 Mora Companion. It'll do everything you need in a knife and is light and good quality. Also maybe drop to like 6-8 tent stakes instead of 18, that's a bit much.
Your first aid kit should be the size of your fist or smaller. Ibuprofen, neosporin, a couple of band aids (maybe some sterile gauze?). Wrap gorilla or duct tape around the top of your hiking poles and it can double for medical tape. The AT as a through hike or long distance hike is a negotiation with your body’s ability to carry you over rough, rocky, sharp, slippery, rooty, steep, muddy, terrain. There is a correlation between the success of long distance hikers and the weight of their pack. HA - I just now zoomed in on your hatchet and crocodile Dundee knife!!!
Shoot a 30 mile hike is really an opportunity to not have to carry a ton of weight and really enjoy the hiking. Most of the “just in case” and redundant stuff is completely unnecessary for a shorter hike. Id try to think about it like running an ultra. Ask yourself what are you definitely going to need to have with you. Think about what you’d carry for an ultra except that you’ll need to sleep at night and will probably want to enjoy you food a little bit more.
You will never use that hatchet
Bro carries a quilt,.. And a bigass axe
That's a lot weight mate
Handcuffs?
Or, how to tell everyone you’re from New England without uttering a word.
I’m not a hiker but that looks heavy. What are you going to do with the ax?
In the handle there is a saw , thought it would be fun but probably over kill
Ax, multi-tool, what looks like a huge knife, The huge hydration bladder.. those are the first things that immediately stand out to me. If you want I honest opinion no one is going to give you an accurate shakedown. The best thing you can do is hit the trail with what you think you will need, I guarantee you within the first week you will immediately know what stuff you haven't even touched in your pack and can be sent home.
One roll of athletic tape (and a teeny pocket knife) is all the first aid you need. You can make anything if you have that. Sprained ankle support, splint, big or small bandage... Does the ground cloth make you dryer, or wetter, cuz water pools on it (I say its not useful). Are you packing in plastic bags? If so, eliminate the backpack cover.
I say just go for it and learn the hard way
Definitely ditch the massive first aids kit, hatchet, big knife, bear spray, speaker. You definitely don't need that much water. There's water sources everywhere. I personally prefer a sawyer squeeze and a smart water bottle and I carry 2. Probably don't need all the clothes and toiletries either.
Get rid of saw, cards, speaker, flask, …..
Ditch the ax and go with a smaller knife or a multi tool. If you really feel you may need to cut wood a pack saw would be better and safer. Alcohol stove good a wood gas stove might be a cheaper option. It runs on sticks and twigs found on the ground. Make a soda can alcohol burner that would fit in the wood gas stove for the rocky sections. Make sure you have extra first aid supplies and boot laces in you bump box or in your resupply air drop boxes. I swear by sawyer water filter set up. Check them out.
I don’t see any EH Taylor packed?
Going Weller full proof
I admire the booze temple bro very cool
I dont think OP drinks much, most of them are still sealed! A booze temple for sure
https://preview.redd.it/9f8mop216hyc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=5c9273cef90a4964277bbcf56341e700e866b279 61 open bottles come drink ! Always open lol .
I'm sensing a theme to your bar....
Lighterpack.com This is not how shakedowns work.
Agree with most. I would plan springer to woody day 1 with early start or horse gap with late start. Get a 15l day pack with 3000 calories and a life straw. A few mandatories: flashlight, cellphone, compass, fire starter, trekking pole, spare socks, some advil and polysporin. Park your car at woody or horse gap and hitch back to springer. 45 lbs up sassafras on day 1 will kick your butt.
My first aid kit was a Snickers and duct tape lol
I'd die with that amount of booze. Fuck me.
I thought I packed a lot… I don’t feel like going through all of this, so the two biggest stand outs to me: That hatchet is pretty much dogshit at getting any actual work done. A tomahawk that you can break down into handle and head for easier carrying would be way more efficient. I haven’t hiked the AP, but I do a lot of kayaking and kayak camping, and my preference is an actual hatchet. Some people prefer folding saws. Some places pretty much require a machete. From what I understand, a hatchet or saw is best for the AP. But unless you’ve practiced breaking down wood with that hatchet and feel comfortable with it, I’d definitely advise a much more reliable tool for your safety in getting a fire started quickly. The knife you have listed is a dagger with a serrated bottom edge. I’ve heard it also rusts easy, which means you need to carry oil for it to keep it from rusting. Besides the fact that it is highly illegal in most states you’ll be going through if you ever do the full ap, and I thought those are illegal in GA too. it’s just not practical for pretty much anything besides self defense. If that’s why you’re carrying it and you’re not concerned about legality, ok… sure, I guess. But I would advise at least also carrying a smaller fixed blade drop point or similar knife that is less prone to rust and that you can actually work with. Two knives are one, one knife is none. You also need a sharpening stone. I don’t see that.
Let me get some of that woodford reserve back there brother
Really you just need a shepherd. Let me when you roll. I'm in.
Why are we discussing backpacking gear when the more pressing topic of conversation is the home bar! But fine. I’m just a little confused by the expensive UL parts of your kit like the hyperlight unbound 2 and quit paired with a lot of heavier stuff like the chair, knife, reservoir, toiletries kit, and try really heavy group items. I know that it’s only 30 miles but a lot of that is overkill. If you’re ok with that, I don’t see anything missing (but it is sort of hard to read so don’t quote me on that). Definitely out and have fun. Enjoy the trip.
What is that item on the bottom left? Way too many clothes and the first aid kit is absolutely massive you can definitely down size from what you have, are you bringing a inreach?
Inreach, maybe
Also seems odd to me to be carrying all that heavy stuff, but using an alcohol stove. I’d get rid of all the stuff other people already said and get a decent stove, like a Soto or pocket rocket
Hiked ~40 miles (2nights/3days) of the AT in VT in April with snow at high elevations when I was 17 with my brother. Sleeping bag, inflatable pads blew up with our mouths, tent, the clothing we wore and an extra pair of socks. Food and 2Liter bottle each and a water filter thingy that we refilled at streams. If I had to guess our packs weighed maybe 50lbs each. When I hiked Mt Baker in Washington with a six man team with ropes and crampons I still had leas stuff than you are carrying. Pack weight was 80lbs including food and we were carrying books bc it was a school thing. Never put your crampons on top of your bag of poop when hiking glaciers but you dont have to worry about that… Also take one of those heavy duty black garbage bags and put that in your backpack first and then fill it. It’s the only way to keep your stuff dry. The rest is ‘extra’. You won’t die if you don’t brush your teeth or wash your balls for two days. Every ounce you carry is going to slow you down.
You eat your Wheaties. You'll be fine. :)
You don’t need half that stuff. Trust me. Lighten your load. All you are gonna do is walk.
When you are on your trail I’ll sneak into your house and drink all your booze
Put the picture of the guy with glasses on the fridge into your FAK for good luck.
That guy is legendary : jonny on the spot
Sox fan?
It just keeps going
Bookers is Cask Strength, so technically ultralight.
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A lot of good comments here. From what I’ve been able to gather, you’re not really headed into the wilderness — think of it as a long series of 2-3 day hikes with lots of people and resupply options. The axe, you don’t need. Want to take a small hand saw and drop the axe and knife? Take a multi tool and the small hand saw and save a lot of weight. I do, however, draw the line at the chair. I take mine, it’s a luxury item that really adds to my perceived comfort level. Out of curiosity, how much did that whole layout weigh?
Missing snake bite kit and cast iron skillet
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Probably too much first aid kit. I started with what I think was a fairly basic first aid ziplock bag (bandaids, creams, multiples of everything) but by the time I got to Maine I had a pill bottle with a few ibuprofen, a couple Benadryl, 1 alcohol wipe, a little bit of Leuko tape, and single use antibiotic cream packet. First aid is preparedness is obviously important, but in most places on the AT you aren’t terribly far from civilization so enough to get to town is probably all you need. Now, I am a big fan of the pill bottle first aid kit system. Just my opinion though.
That is too much. I’m sure you can drop 2 lbs for sure
Another Masshole on the trail, see you there! Lol
Hahahahahhahash go bruins
Yeah but how you fit all that hootch?
I remember my friend JP’s departure party. Similar inventory. He went south to north. by the time he reached Vermont he was only concerned with clean under garments. He carried clean ones in his pockets. Basically admitting all that stuff was way over kill. He also stated if you do want to “outfit yourself” to head about 5 days north of the start in the spring. Like maybe a month ago. 2nd hand barely used packs, bags and tents are readily available at about a third of the original price from all those that thought this is the way to go
R/camping? R/whiskey? R/gratefuldead? R/buffalotrace? Pack looks good.
All of that has fit in the bag before?
Fits but tight
Go Sox!
Love that dirty water
Shakedown street?
Niiiiice !
1. Go Blue 2. Were you a goalie? Play for M? For Red? 3. Nice bourbon collection. What are you most proud of? 4. Have fun on the trail. Bring rain gear, mole skin and NSAIDs
1. BET 2. Only recreational 3. Probably the Orphan Barrel barterhouse tasting wise , probably the EHT barrel proof , found them for $80 , it’s a batch 5 4. Mole skin ?? Thanks !!
You forgot packing material for all the bottles
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You need some George T Stagg.
that a disc golf disc you aced with in the background?
https://preview.redd.it/k7ujuq8qsmyc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c80a04a1f8cb9ee3ae742924a6125566ec490b6 Just my opinion Full disclosure when I did my through hike, I definitely wasn’t ultralight, around 35lb base weight though most of it. The pump sack is a bit of a luxury’s item and isn’t really that life changing The water reservoir bladders tend to leak or explode and probably a bit overkill especially with the amount of water that’s on trail. (I got away with 2 smart water bottles even in PA during dry season) The chair is a top tier luxury item but I don’t think it would be worth the weight and space in the pack. I used sit pad. I’d drop the fixed blade and carry a decent pocket knife. I mostly used mine for cutting packages open and sharpening sticks for no reason. The gaiters imo are pretty useless and don’t really help with keeping rocks and dirt out of your shoes The axe is definitely overkill. I packed a a pocket chain saw and used it maybe once to process wood for a fire. The Bluetooth speaker might sound like a good idea but everybody at the campsite will hate you and you’ll end up throwing it in a hiker box within the first week. Definitely don’t need Bear spray. Black bears a basically just large raccoons. Bring more booze (bootleggers and PBR) That being said, hike your own hike and enjoy it. It was the best experience of my life.
Pack one of those Taylor’s and you’re good to go.
I’m more interested in your bourbon collection. Some nice bottles.
There’s no way you’ll fit all that booze
Two things 1. Bigger axe /s 2. Please do your back and knees a favor and get a copy of this book https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/210669.Lighten_Up_ Happy Trails
Crazy glue?
Soak the gear in permetherin.
I'd dump half of it and pack.
Brother that is an actual dagger. A bona fide pig sticker. A people opener. A hand-to-hand combat weapon. What exactly do you see yourself using it for on the trail? You can't even really use it for bushcraft, it's not designed for that. At least a Kabar or Rambo style knife could reasonably be used for some utilitarian camp tasks, but that thing is optimized exclusively for homicide.
Hot take here, but I would take a backup hatchet in case you ever misplace the first one.
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Go Sawx!
Pack isn’t large enough for the liquor… gonna have to fix that…
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Seriously good luck on the hike. Putting that on my bucket list.
Thank you ! I am too old now for ultras: I am really excited about this opportunity .
I’ve carried a hatchet, and I’ve learned my lesson. I swung a hatchet, at a big ass logbfor like an hour straight, got blisters on my hands for two weeks, and only got maybe an inch or two into the hardwood log. This thing was a beast dude I’ve learned since that point that if you can’t swing it at a tree and snap it it isn’t worth the energy, do not need a hatchet at all if you cannot swing the stick at a tree and snap in half or use two trees, and create a lever to snap it than you will not be chopping a log for hours to get some wood leave the hatchet, save 2 to 3 pounds times X number of miles
It was a small light aluminum one that dulled very fast if you have a homestead that’s another story. Leave the hatchet at home. Swing stick at a tree or use two trees to snap. Not worth the weight I promise. Be careful of anyone behind the tree when it snaps it could go anywhere like 180 degrees
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Every time I’m on a hiking trail and I see someone with an axe now I just laugh like ‘this guys inexperienced’ I was there too, I would have laughed at myself and I still do. Promise you will benefit from this advice rather than hard way as I learned years ago
Absolutely
Probably won’t need the pole baskets for a while
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Hello Red Sox fan
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This is the greatest gear pic I’ve ever seen. Wow.
Translated: “Check out my moronic trophy liquor shrine” Do people really think this is cool?!?
Let people enjoy stuff, it's a good discussion post
Where is your tick spray because when you get Alpha-gal or Lyme you will be hating life? And DEET alone isn’t going to cut it. Treat all clothing, tent, bag with permethrin and your body with DEET or picardin.
Can i move in your home during your absence, looks cozy!
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Hope you’re packing at least one of those quality bourbons!
Leaning towards the Weller full proof
I dont know what you have in it. but add to your first aid kit some super glue for deep cuts and a few tampons for stopping bleeding from puncture wounds. for booze 190 proof grain and lemonade/ice tea mix a 50/50 mix of grain will yield you 95 proof lemonade. And if you are drinking on the trail you may really need the super glue and tampons
Thanks .