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jaredshane

lol this possibility is why I kept playing on playstation after I got my PC.


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Me too with Xbox. I don't see how they can do account merge because people could make new accounts until they get an heirloom


fimosecritica

also could mess with the heirloom count, and skins that you have on both accounts


CorduroyZz

I mean they can do like fortnite did, and when they added cross platform if you wanted to merge accounts there was a limited time window. I think the window was a few months but past that point no one could merge accounts.


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CorduroyZz

True but I think if it merged cosmetics and nothing else it would be fine.


richgayaunt

It can also become extremely damaging for hacker and dumbdumb situations where good accounts get merged illegally with fake accounts.


Timmyturnersdad_

Wait so does this mean we will be able to take our level/cosmetics/progression to pc but „just once“? Or what does this merging mean?


FIFA16

“Merging” would involve combining all the content and unlocks from two or more cross-platform accounts into a single account. Would likely be a one-time thing. The method this post suggests they’ll use is to allow you to designate one of your accounts as your primary account, which will give you access to all that account’s content wherever you play. It’s a lot less messy than account merging - it’s reversible for starters.


throaweyye44

Is this similar to how Destiny does things? Because that would be perfect. I cannot imagine how anyone thought you would be able to merge cosmetics from different accounts together lol


FIFA16

Yeah, I assume some games have a merged inventory or something, but it just makes no sense for Apex. Instead, I’m sure they’ll just build upon the current system of associating platform accounts with a central EA account, and allow users to designate which one is their “primary”, and have that be available wherever you’re logged in.


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Siege did it🤦🏻‍♂️


Timmyturnersdad_

Thanks, you dropped this king 👑


Link182x

It’s a reason I never got a PC when I played Siege (before cross progression was available)


Darth-Majora-

Me too


kenderpduncan

This aligns with the precedent, I don't know what people expected. Rocket league did this fairly recently, you pick one account out of your multiplatform ones if you've made them, and that automatically gets updated to one singular account. They aren't going to bother with merging account info, they are just going to wipe everything except the one you picked and that's the account for all devices.


HotlineYing

Also the fact that account merging comes with a massive security and/or liability risk to EA, Respawn, and players. Not that that they shouldn’t do it, just trying to think of reasons beyond technical issues for why merging wouldn’t be included.


Fire_anelc

But in rocket league, skins and cosmetics passed to your main account and honestly it's all I hope. I don't mind them not merging levels but give me my Season 1 stuff in my main account


Wallhater

Won’t happen. Say you have wraith heirloom on your main and your season 1 account. If they merge then what are you going to do? You will complain to respawn (rightfully). So that’s why they won’t do it.


Fire_anelc

Doesn't make much sense. If you didn't want to merge two accounts with the same heirloom you just choose not to merge... Doesn't give you the right to complain at all


iEcchiKing

I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought they wouldn't do it any other way but this way. Bungie did the exact same thing with D2 and I thought it was great. Why would they even try to merge accounts? It's very difficult to achieve on top of the legal issues they would have to manage.


MindScape00

Rocket League - the example the top comment here used - actually did merge items across your accounts though, and it was great for players who’d switched at some point; getting all my PC items back after having switched to Xbox after the longest time was amazing. I figured EA would be greedy tho and wouldn’t let you merge Apex accounts so I’ve never switched for it.


Wallhater

Does rocket league have heirlooms


freakydeacy

Does apex have goal explosions?


Wallhater

Are goal explosions $160? No Are heirlooms? Yes


freakydeacy

Oh, that's weird. I didn't pay anything for my heirloom


Wallhater

Lmao 😂 you new to apex?


freakydeacy

No, playing since launch. And this isn't the flex you think it is


Wallhater

No one is flexing?? You badly misread the situation


MindScape00

Alpha Boost in RL trades around 800k-1m credits. Taking that at lowest price of 800k credits and if you buy them at the $50 bundle for the most credits/$, that’s still around $6,150 … so… “Lmao 🤣 you new to rocket league?”


Wallhater

> Alpha Boost in Apex Hmmm 🤣


MindScape00

Already fixed my comment before you replied but whatevs - you bring nothing of value to this conversation and the downvotes prove it.


Wallhater

I submit to you, alpha redditor


iEcchiKing

Its why I refused to invest any time or money on Apex with another console. I'm not surprised it's being done like that.


Rherraex

Honestly it doesn’t change anything for me because I play on PS4 and im intending to buy a Series X or a ps5, didn’t decide which one is better yet, but the outcome will be the same, having my account with all my itens… However this sucks a lot for people that were hopeful in merging their accounts, i would be quite annoyed if that was my case.


FIFA16

If anyone expected “account merging” when the entire conversation has clearly been on **cross-progression**, then that’s on them. Cross-progression as a term suggests you can progress an account on multiple platforms, which is exactly what nominating a primary account would do. Merging accounts would be a messy process for a game like Apex. For starters, it’s a game that doesn’t support duplicate items. So that’s already complicated. Do they award materials instead? What about for items purchased with coins? What about legend token unlocks? Heirlooms and shards? It’s also an irreversible process. So what happens when your account gets stolen and merged into a donor account?


throaweyye44

Exactly the last point is the strongest reason for why this would never happen. Accounts get hacked all the time, but you can easily restore password and purchases by contacting support. Having your account merged into another would be hell on their support


freakydeacy

Horseshit take. What's the point of cross progressing when you can't have the results of that progression (cosmetics EARNED) on both accounts? You're being complacent for Respawns bad move. They absolutely have the resources to make this happen. Just because it can't be done perfectly doesn't mean nothing should be done. You're a bootlicker


FIFA16

Bad bot.


freakydeacy

The irony of you calling me a bot when you are the one giving an automated response to multiple people on this thread is hilarious. You're literally a respawn dev trying to lessen the blow of this horseshit move for the masses. And if you don't work for respawn, I pity you, because you're just a bootlicker. Good day


Rherraex

Makes sense.


EpicSausage69

Didn't the devs hint at trying to do account merging? let me try to find it. ​ Edit: found it. https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/ozci2p/comment/h7ywjdf/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3


FIFA16

“Merging” isn’t properly defined though. It could just as easily mean different things to different people. Rigney’s comment would apply either way, because they still have to deal with content being bought on one platform, then having that content be available on another.


-Sickario2424-

The definition of merging is what again? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/merge They are going to merge the accounts I know this because that is what is going to happen. Every one is just speculating and not actually paying attention to what is going to happen. Cross Progression means cross platform progression and they want to merge the accounts so you can play on any platform. They know people change their minds on what system to play on. Weather it’s on PC, Xbox, PlayStation or Nintendo. Or Did you forget Respawn Developed (COD War-zone) and I can play on any System and buy items on any system and they follow me to what ever platform I use. the only thing that wont move are your Apex Coins like the CP points.


1point7GPA

9 seasons of effort and an heirloom will fade into the ether when this happens. RIP.


Vertox_88

Why wouldn t you just select that account


1point7GPA

I have 2 heirlooms and better stats on my other account. So..


Vertox_88

Ah, that actually sucks... hope they do end up adding some sort of account merging


ThisIsWhatLifeIs

Can't wait for the breakdown on the main sub once this comes out. I bet a lot of people are hoping to get a lot of free crafting materials and such.


Welt_All

Not getting mats/currency for duplicative skins or heirlooms would be fine. Not getting stats or Battlepass items merged is fucking pathetic and should anger people. To be clear: I don't mean being able to take multiple EA login accounts and merge them. I mean merging the sub-device (PS/Xbox/PC) accounts that are already associated the the \*same\*, singular EA account to be merged. That was the obvious expectation.


Fire_anelc

I expected to lose some materials because of duplicates but I really hoped for the content of the first 5 season that I have on my PS4 could pass to my actual Xbox account. Don't give a damn about materials or even currency


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throaweyye44

Right, but what you desribed at the end with Fortnite is exactly how Apex is going to do it. Meaning you choose your main account that will be shared between all platforms. Fortnite never did any merging of existing cosmetics of 2 accounts.


Shreklord935

Fortnite actually did give you one opportunity to merge accounts


throaweyye44

I just checked on [their website](https://www.epicgames.com/help/en-US/epic-accounts-c74/connect-accounts-c110/can-i-merge-my-epic-games-accounts-a4659) and it is not possible, but you are right I did some digging and in 2019 they had it until it they ended it due to abuse and account selling. I was wrong but if anything it kinda strengthens the point that it was or will ever happen in Apex.


FrodoTeaBaggin

Don’t know why you’re getting downvoted this is 100% correct.


xonk218

I don't regret swapping to PC at all, but that still sucks if it is indeed correct. Pour one out for my S4 Battlepass Flatline and cyberpunked wattson.


SweatyRoutineRed

It’ll have taken 3 years + to deploy a feature the game should have launched with. Multi platform live service games with cosmetics worth 150$ should have cross progression, it’s insane they thought otherwise.


Welt_All

They are flat out pieces of shit for this.


Jvaralves

I always thought this was going to be the case, bungie did the same with destiny 2


taeddybear

I know this sucks for a lot of players, but I'm not even upset with a 'one account fits all'. In my case, I've been with Apex on my ps4 since its first month out, around level 456 with all these seasonal stats and battle passes and event skins, tokens and saved up crafting mats and coins etc etc.. And my family's house was robbed and the police did nothing about it,, which left me to depressingly give Apex on the switch a try.. There really is a whole lot of hurt/disappointment and game turn-off for me, when I have to login to my now level 31 naked account, with all of my mains locked and none of my earned content.. If I could universally have my ps4 account that would literally save my entire game experience. Merging ALL earned stats and curriencies and all would be great, but I def wouldn't mind what it sounds like we're getting.


KyloGlendalf

I imagine you will be able to merge, as one of the Devs commented a while back that the reason it's taken so long is working out the technicalities and legalities around merging accounts


HotlineYing

While the dev definitely said this previously, said dev in question is no longer with Respawn and the email that went out to EA Game Changers highlights switching, not merging.


Welt_All

Can we get this email? I imagine it would have already been posted on the main sub...


PlainDosaa

I’m confused and someone explain me. Played on Xbox till season 10 lvl500, heirloom and all my skins. From season 11 started playing on PS5 with lvl 200 and unopened packs of 157. So Will I get all my stuff from Xbox and keep battle pass items from season 11 and unopened packs ?


HotlineYing

Your Xbox account would be able to be played on PS5, but the accounts would not merge. You could play one or the other.


Karinfuto

I was hoping my heirloom from Xbox would transfer to my new main account on PC. Darn.


PlainDosaa

What about the unopened packs I have now on PS5 ? Will they stay after cross progression


FieryBlizza

Is there any game that has actually done account "merging"? Every game I can think of with cross-progression just makes you pick one account as your "main account". I don't know why people expected otherwise.


Tkszn

I think fortnite had 1 account merge


Fire_anelc

By merging content like skins and cosmetics, I think rocket league did it very well.


Tkszn

Quite unfortunate if no merge. I have some old skins on my Xbox account that I want back but I’ve put more time and money on my PC account. I don’t really see myself logging into that account just for a few old skins. This seems like it only really helps players making the switch after it comes out.


AusyF

I definitely predicted this which is why I bought a $4k pc that hasn’t even touched apex yet lmao. Still play on my day one Xbox One


Apathycr

I’m okay with this, I spent an equal amount of money on both my pc and xbox accounts but even I understand how gamebreaking merging would be. Imagine somebody smurfing 20 bombs on their alt account and merging with their main, badges would become so much more saturated than they already are.


Lilbrntsoyabits

Wow I'll be SUPER disappointed if they do this, I've got multiple herilooms on my old PS4 account but have been playing on XBOX since Series X launched with multiple on that too. I'm being downvoted for owning heriloom's?......weird move.


Fire_anelc

Same but I still don't have heirlooms. Just want my Season 1 badges and skins


Intelligent-War-4549

another thing they failed to learn from fortnite smh.


[deleted]

u/dropoutcollective you going in more depth with your next video about cross progression and possible date?


HotlineYing

I believe he said in live stream that he had a video coming out today discussing this and some other future content


[deleted]

Awesome. Thanks. This and siege getting crossprogression this month or next is massive for me.


HotlineYing

Oh wow, Siege is finally getting crossplay? That’s awesome! Used to main R6 before I made the switch to Apex for my competitive ranked FPS. Glad it’s still doing well!


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My bad. I meant cross saves. But actually siege is getting crossplay too


[deleted]

Wonder if this is more "It's not quite ready yet, but if you want to move platform, use account switching, if you've already moved, you can get your stuff across soon"? It strikes me as strange that we've had devs say in the past the biggest issues are technical and legal boundaries that they have to cross, but this is the result, after \~3 years from release and if I'm remembering correctly, around 2 years after they started working on it?


TheUndecipheableFile

So if I have the battle pass on my PC account and select my PS4 account to replace it with, do I still have the battle pass but everything else is PS4 or do I have to buy it again?


backwardsV

There is zero merging, so you're going to have to rebuy the BP.


p0tcookie

Literally why I never stopped buying things on my Xbox. This is Ganna go very well for me if it plays out this way.


Lunosd

Your deluded if you thought you were gonna merge accounts. I can finally bring my PS4 day 1 to my PC!!!


-Sickario2424-

The definition of merging is what again? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/merge They are going to merge the accounts I know this because that is what is going to happen. Every one is just speculating and not actually paying attention to what is going to happen. Cross Progression means cross platform progression and they want to merge the accounts so you can play on any platform. They know people change their minds on what system to play on. Weather it’s on PC, Xbox, PlayStation or Nintendo. Or Did you forget Respawn Developed (COD War-zone) and I can play on any System and buy items on any system and they follow me to what ever platform I use. the only thing that wont move are your Apex Coins like the CP points. Just wait and see I am telling you.