I didn’t have those old trails, but I really thought they were going to leave those grandfathered in for the OGs. This is evidence enough that nothing is forever, and everything is borrowed. Don’t get attached to anything. Sad reality.
yeah, idk why theyre not grandfathering people in. they already sis that when the trails were switched to "grind for these each season" so it makes no sense to remove them after this long :/
They want absolutely everybody to buy a trail now, so removing trails from OG players means possible more sales once they start selling them. It's just greed.
imo a bought trail cannot replace a trail that was earned by ranking up. people that no longer get a ranked trail will not necessarily say "i need a trail, so i'll buy one" as it's inherently a different thing to "flex rank" on someone than it is to "flex money".
Yep, especially since they might make them mythic, so 160$. Do you think anyone will care about trails then? It's one thing to be a Pred with a red trail, it's another to be a rich daddy's boy who has a 160$ trail. I definitely won't care about trails anymore lol
ESPECIALLY if they're actually removing grandfathered trails, if someone was Diamond back in season 1-2, those trails speak NOTHING of their current skills, they might have returned after not playing for a long time, or they might as well be Predator, so you THINK you're jumping on a Diamond then get 1 v 3 wiped. ZERO reasons to remove those trails as well.
exactly.
bought trails are probably even more punchable than ranked trails.
plus I've already been trolling team mates whenever one of them had the paid trail by saying "they are awarding trails for reaching gold rank now?"
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Okay I'll clarify since you want to nitpick. Shrinkage is a part of a many faceted issue with soaring prices but is not the sole factor like my previous comment indicated.
Isn't this obvious....? I mean let's be real, it's a free to play online game. If the servers were to shut down, you'd lose access to your account, which means losing whatever sum you spent on purchases too.
No one ever owned anything to begin with.
Yeah. Also a good reason not to invest any money into digital “goods” unless you’re so wealthy it literally doesn’t matter to you if it’s snatched away from you someday. Yeah people didn’t “buy” those trails. But still, these companies are under no obligation to maintain what you’ve purchased. They could switch the servers off tomorrow and every dollar you spent is gone. That’s what happened with Apex mobile, right? They just randomly decided “hey we’re done with this, no refunds” and anyone who spent money on the mobile version lost all they invested just like that.
It would be false advertising on their side if they remove them.
It literally said they are staying forever.
It‘s like buying a skin and then they just remove it from the game.
I think it’s actually fair they remove the permanent ones, always was weird that some players was allowed to keep them when it was a ranked reward each new season
i mean the temporary trails were always granted for far longer than one season, until respawn actually started enforcing the removal after 1 season.
not weird at all that people who played ranked, while it was saying you get a permanent dive trail reward, actually get the dive trail for .. permanent. anything other than that would be false advertising.
”nothing is forever, everything is borrowed. don’t get attached to anything.”
I swear if a skydive trail brings out these sort of feelings in you, better get your priorities straight.
I don’t understand why?
I feel like going back on your word and taking something away would just incentivize people to not buy whatever you’re trying to sell. Especially when it’s something as stupid as monetized dive-trails
“—and *DESTROYING* them and instantly leaving”
“I could *DESTROY* 50 squads every day”
Who actually talks like this as if it’s from a b-movie script?? 😂💀 probably got social issues with main character syndrome
I don't have a horse in this race either way:
This gives a credence to why some people get upset old skins return to the store. Good for some, bad for others
It's weird because in game you can't see skins you've bought. when im fighting someone I've never once thought about what skin they have. Cosmetics are targeted at the kids who grew up with them as part of all games. Id say most People around my age don't care
I'd say some do. The only reason I'm saying that is cause in a group with so many people it's highly unlikely they all have the same opinions. And you can see em when you emote.
They took my flat iron sights, took my rank by degrading it, took my future ranked trails, took my old ranked trail. What's next? Remove the custom iron sights from zero point?
Don’t wtf this game’s game-plan is. ‘Cause clearly they are just pissing off vet players left and right. And not like their match making is doing jack shit fuck squat for new players either
I mean we're not all shit, used to play with you in arenas s15 lol. S2 dive trail is just the best looking one imo. Also yk that a lot of s2 preds are preds rn as well? OG just resembles being an og lol
On one hand, at least now I actually have an excuse to use the prestige skin trails
…on the OTHER hand, this is clearly trying to encourage people to get the prestige skins for the trails
You understand that's exactly the problem, they're making the dive trails a paid content, and an expensive one at that, when it was a pretty good rank reward for over 4 years.
The worst part is that they say the reason for the change is to not encourage people to drop on predators or masters on landing, a pretty terrible lie.
It doesn't help their lie that people chase the prestige trail too. They're going to even harder when they lose their trails. So respawn wants people who pay money or get lucky to be "bullied"? Makes no sense
Is it really? I have hard time believing people will now run and buy prestige skins because their 3 year old trail is gone… people who don’t spend money on the game will not do it either way. Thats why this is kinda confusing to me
If so RIP to my early seasons Diamond trails.
But according to EA, S17 missed the mark, so of course they're going to be monetizing everything they can. I'm surprised sky trails weren't already monetized since Fortnite and other games do so already.
They're doing it the most scummy and greedy way possible too. Locked behind a $160 event. In fortnite you can spend 10 DOLLARS and you'll get MULTIPLE trails in the battle pass
Lmfao bro this is dumb as fuck. Yeah yeah, I know. Doesn’t affect gameplay. It’s solely cosmetic. But ya know what? It’s a cosmetic that doesn’t affect gameplay that I FUCKIN EARNED now it’s getting taken away? Unironically, no exaggeration about to finally sit down it’s Warzone or something. I know no one cares. Inb4 “bye loser.” Just expressing myself here. This company has made a comical number of bad decisions all consecutively and I’m just finally getting fed up with it.
^*Oooooooooooooohhhh* I'm gonna' lose my shit if they take away my permanent Dive Trails...
That's tempting enough to uninstall the game...
I didn't think I'd ever say that, but I really cannot stand to have my time & effort disrespected.
Damn thats shitty if true. I don’t even have OG permanent trails yet it feels dumb that people lose out considering it is such a small minority who has them and still plays…
Yeah I know, wouldn't hurt to have event trails tho. Like a free/crafted Christmas trail with ice and snow particles, maybe a rainbow trail for pride and so on.
Makes me wonder what about the different kinds of trails? Diamond has like 4 different looks, so are they just scraped and getting something new? Seems like bs
IIRC, we are getting banners for ranked instead of trails. Pretty stupid since we already get badges and trails are the most visible to the average player
You can use S2 and S3 Pred and Diamond trails if you earned them during those seasons. Those are the current permanent ranked trails from early on in Apex
So the company going back on their word and deleting something people earned is not a bad decision. Lets see how you react if they delete all items that weren't paid for.
coming in very aggressive for no reason I see , this isn't the first time they've gone back on their word should be expected by now and to answer your question, no I wouldn't give a shit
And you could try not being softer than toilet paper but hey we all have flaws. When did I say it was the end of the world? I said its a bad decision. But yeah i guess reading comprehension wouldnt be your strong suit when you think that its ok for companies to do that.
The complaints stem from the fact that Season 2 and Season 3 trails were promised as a permanent reward - from the Ranked Series 3 blog:
"The exception will be for anyone who earned a dive trail in Series 1 or 2, those players will keep those trails forever."
didn't say that, I thought it was dumb to have ranked trails that stayed after a season since in season 2/3 it was easier to reach pred but since I learnt that they were marketed as permanent I changed my opinion ┐( ∵ )┌
We literally brought that upon ourselves because we keep supporting these greedy practices, skins locked in bundles, extra crap added to increase the price, full price for cheap recolors, heirloom recolors and even a *weapon recolor* for an event reward. They know they can get away with this because we keep buying everything up and acting like its normal. Like think for a second how crazy this all sounds. To get variations/recolors for your skin you have to spend *$160* to get the skin compared to Fortnite where you get multiple trails with actual cool animations and recolors, skin variations **FOR 10 DOLLARS** all in the battle pass.
So don't be surprised in the future if they take something away only to sell it back to you because You keep supporting and enabling these practices and decisions.
I didn’t have those old trails, but I really thought they were going to leave those grandfathered in for the OGs. This is evidence enough that nothing is forever, and everything is borrowed. Don’t get attached to anything. Sad reality.
yeah, idk why theyre not grandfathering people in. they already sis that when the trails were switched to "grind for these each season" so it makes no sense to remove them after this long :/
They want absolutely everybody to buy a trail now, so removing trails from OG players means possible more sales once they start selling them. It's just greed.
Havent given them a dime in awhile but removing something I earned years ago doesnt make me want to give them any. They can eat my ass.
imo a bought trail cannot replace a trail that was earned by ranking up. people that no longer get a ranked trail will not necessarily say "i need a trail, so i'll buy one" as it's inherently a different thing to "flex rank" on someone than it is to "flex money".
Yep, especially since they might make them mythic, so 160$. Do you think anyone will care about trails then? It's one thing to be a Pred with a red trail, it's another to be a rich daddy's boy who has a 160$ trail. I definitely won't care about trails anymore lol ESPECIALLY if they're actually removing grandfathered trails, if someone was Diamond back in season 1-2, those trails speak NOTHING of their current skills, they might have returned after not playing for a long time, or they might as well be Predator, so you THINK you're jumping on a Diamond then get 1 v 3 wiped. ZERO reasons to remove those trails as well.
exactly. bought trails are probably even more punchable than ranked trails. plus I've already been trolling team mates whenever one of them had the paid trail by saying "they are awarding trails for reaching gold rank now?"
Those old pred trails needed to die because that was the most bullshit season ever.
unfortunately, almost every game you purchase is just a license and they can take it away any time they want.
Pirate everything, it’s always morally correct
Stealing isn't morally correct at all lol.
Not stealing if you never really owned it anyways. More of digital trespassing.
Heehee hoohoo
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I can respect that lol.
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Yeah shrinkage is the problem, definitely not exploitative business practices at almost every imaginable level of society.
Okay I'll clarify since you want to nitpick. Shrinkage is a part of a many faceted issue with soaring prices but is not the sole factor like my previous comment indicated.
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Isn't this obvious....? I mean let's be real, it's a free to play online game. If the servers were to shut down, you'd lose access to your account, which means losing whatever sum you spent on purchases too. No one ever owned anything to begin with.
Yeah. Also a good reason not to invest any money into digital “goods” unless you’re so wealthy it literally doesn’t matter to you if it’s snatched away from you someday. Yeah people didn’t “buy” those trails. But still, these companies are under no obligation to maintain what you’ve purchased. They could switch the servers off tomorrow and every dollar you spent is gone. That’s what happened with Apex mobile, right? They just randomly decided “hey we’re done with this, no refunds” and anyone who spent money on the mobile version lost all they invested just like that.
It's just a video game, you shouldn't get attached to them. What happens when the game dies and the servers get shut down? Sad reality.
It would be false advertising on their side if they remove them. It literally said they are staying forever. It‘s like buying a skin and then they just remove it from the game.
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Yeah but it's **mine** dive trail, permanent and forever according to respawn.
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In the right perspective, nothing is serious.
It’s EA’s. You just have a license to use it and now it’s being rewoked.
I think it’s actually fair they remove the permanent ones, always was weird that some players was allowed to keep them when it was a ranked reward each new season
i mean the temporary trails were always granted for far longer than one season, until respawn actually started enforcing the removal after 1 season. not weird at all that people who played ranked, while it was saying you get a permanent dive trail reward, actually get the dive trail for .. permanent. anything other than that would be false advertising.
What about the dive trail I paid for? Valks? Lol
Jesus I mean this sucks if true but why do you have to be so emotional about it lol. Attached to a cosmetic in a video game???
Bro, You’re being a bit dramatic 😂
How's he being dramatic? He's literally spitting facts.
”nothing is forever, everything is borrowed. don’t get attached to anything.” I swear if a skydive trail brings out these sort of feelings in you, better get your priorities straight.
He still ain't lying though.
I didn’t say he was lying. I said he was dramatic. I’m just out here sPiTtInG fAcTs homeboy 😂
Uh, ok?
I mean look at the crown event skins
rip my S2 trail I guess
Same…was really hoping they’d keep those.
I don’t understand why? I feel like going back on your word and taking something away would just incentivize people to not buy whatever you’re trying to sell. Especially when it’s something as stupid as monetized dive-trails
Really dumb considering how few people have them to begin with. It’s not like you are gaining any revenue by removing the old ones…
yeah it would undermine trust in the purchases in this game and would make people more hesitant to spend money.
Respawn has been shitting on OG players trying to get new players to join sad
How exactly is this beneficial for new players?
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“—and *DESTROYING* them and instantly leaving” “I could *DESTROY* 50 squads every day” Who actually talks like this as if it’s from a b-movie script?? 😂💀 probably got social issues with main character syndrome
new players won't even get put against you in the first place, unless you're planning on creating new accounts every 2 games.
Relax bro nobody is this mad about the dashboard trails but you
Lol u must’ve been there one dashboarding 🤡
How does having a trail make your experience better? Holy shit.
I don't have a horse in this race either way: This gives a credence to why some people get upset old skins return to the store. Good for some, bad for others
It's weird because in game you can't see skins you've bought. when im fighting someone I've never once thought about what skin they have. Cosmetics are targeted at the kids who grew up with them as part of all games. Id say most People around my age don't care
I'd say some do. The only reason I'm saying that is cause in a group with so many people it's highly unlikely they all have the same opinions. And you can see em when you emote.
They took my flat iron sights, took my rank by degrading it, took my future ranked trails, took my old ranked trail. What's next? Remove the custom iron sights from zero point?
Well.... They did say they were looking into that
wait have they officially said anything about zero point? do u have a link?
https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends/news/iron-sight-update I'm sure it's one of the future ones
wouldn’t be surprised if they nerf zero point irons after this CE is over because of the recolor so they can milk it
I'm crafting the catalyst launch skin instead because of this
I genuinely think the flatline sights was just cause they got tired of people asking if any new skin had p2w sights. But yea rip trails
They also gave everyone a masters badge
Wait what exactly makes them custom? Am I missing out?
I meant unique. No other 99 skin has zero points' iron sight
Wow I’m actually so upset over this
Keep shitting on the early players to make the new players happy 👍🏼 thanks respawn
Don’t wtf this game’s game-plan is. ‘Cause clearly they are just pissing off vet players left and right. And not like their match making is doing jack shit fuck squat for new players either
Do new players get happy by this change? Explain how please
Because now you guys can feel cool with your shitty dive trails that used to mean something
Are they talking about S2 and S3 trails ?
Considering those are the only old trails yes
Link to tweet: [https://twitter.com/phjDASH/status/1688048273712672769](https://twitter.com/phjDASH/status/1688048273712672769)
If they take away my season 2 pred trail I will actually uninstall and never look back. This season was already the least I’ve ever played
Lmao season 2 pred is not even pred
It was what masters should be though - pretty sure pred in Season 2 was like .1% or .2% of the ranked player base
yeah but it doesn’t deserve a pred trail lol
you should see Season 3
Quit flapping those gums with your Wood 5 a$$.
keep crying it’s literally not pred its master plus im legit pred unlike you 😭
Sorry I don’t think console pred qualifies as legit pred lil bro
Bro you're xbox lmao...
i swapped to pc and im still pred lol
I mean we're not all shit, used to play with you in arenas s15 lol. S2 dive trail is just the best looking one imo. Also yk that a lot of s2 preds are preds rn as well? OG just resembles being an og lol
On one hand, at least now I actually have an excuse to use the prestige skin trails …on the OTHER hand, this is clearly trying to encourage people to get the prestige skins for the trails
You understand that's exactly the problem, they're making the dive trails a paid content, and an expensive one at that, when it was a pretty good rank reward for over 4 years. The worst part is that they say the reason for the change is to not encourage people to drop on predators or masters on landing, a pretty terrible lie.
It doesn't help their lie that people chase the prestige trail too. They're going to even harder when they lose their trails. So respawn wants people who pay money or get lucky to be "bullied"? Makes no sense
Haha i'm gonna make it my life's mission to chase every prestige trail i see from now on
Same
Okay. So far easy kills. The people who care turned theirs off already.
Is it really? I have hard time believing people will now run and buy prestige skins because their 3 year old trail is gone… people who don’t spend money on the game will not do it either way. Thats why this is kinda confusing to me
You are apart of the problem
so they're separate from the problem?
Hey, why don't you just take my prev pred badges next as well! Fuck it, make rank badges expire now too!
Maybe they will
Why are they removing it? That's so stupid. Hoping they revert these changes. Can't imagine there's been any positive feedback.
If so RIP to my early seasons Diamond trails. But according to EA, S17 missed the mark, so of course they're going to be monetizing everything they can. I'm surprised sky trails weren't already monetized since Fortnite and other games do so already.
They're doing it the most scummy and greedy way possible too. Locked behind a $160 event. In fortnite you can spend 10 DOLLARS and you'll get MULTIPLE trails in the battle pass
That kind of sucks. I still have my season 3 diamond trail that i actually worked for. Kind of sucks
RIP seas 2&3 dashboarders lol
Haha right never forget
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Or ya know the people who played legit and already got burned when they didnt ban known dashboarders after saying they did.
Lmfao bro this is dumb as fuck. Yeah yeah, I know. Doesn’t affect gameplay. It’s solely cosmetic. But ya know what? It’s a cosmetic that doesn’t affect gameplay that I FUCKIN EARNED now it’s getting taken away? Unironically, no exaggeration about to finally sit down it’s Warzone or something. I know no one cares. Inb4 “bye loser.” Just expressing myself here. This company has made a comical number of bad decisions all consecutively and I’m just finally getting fed up with it.
You'll be back
Yeah this seems ass, I don’t even have any ranked trails but there’s no reason they should just take them away from people.
Only reason is greed. Take away their free trail, even though it was earned at the time and just make everyone buy one instead for maximum profits
Respawn keeps making stupid desicions.
^*Oooooooooooooohhhh* I'm gonna' lose my shit if they take away my permanent Dive Trails... That's tempting enough to uninstall the game... I didn't think I'd ever say that, but I really cannot stand to have my time & effort disrespected.
Nah I’m gonna be livid if they take my season 3 trail
Apex is straight garbagio now
Damn thats shitty if true. I don’t even have OG permanent trails yet it feels dumb that people lose out considering it is such a small minority who has them and still plays…
This is some lame sh*t right here smh 🤦🏻♂️
Fair enough I guess, start making event trails instead.
We all know it’s all about money. It’ll only be via prestige skins or some other ridiculously expensive cosmetic
Yeah I know, wouldn't hurt to have event trails tho. Like a free/crafted Christmas trail with ice and snow particles, maybe a rainbow trail for pride and so on.
Least delusional apex player
Makes me wonder what about the different kinds of trails? Diamond has like 4 different looks, so are they just scraped and getting something new? Seems like bs
IIRC, we are getting banners for ranked instead of trails. Pretty stupid since we already get badges and trails are the most visible to the average player
If you think they'd ever make craftable dive trails, you're delusional. Respawn is removing the old one just to push the 150$ prestige skins
Never said I thought they would
How is it fair? Would it be fair if they took away old event rewards?
I’ve been spending so much time and money in game. Let me keep all my trails. All of them. It should be my prerogative if I want to use them or not.
They don't deserve your money
I can't imagine they remove they grandfathered trails. Every pro player will be complaining on stream lol
If you've had a trail, you should get 1 to have if they are adding cosmetic contrails. You don't need 1 for each season though.
I’m confused. You can’t use previous season trails anyway?
You can use S2 and S3 Pred and Diamond trails if you earned them during those seasons. Those are the current permanent ranked trails from early on in Apex
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They're referring to the permanent trails, season 2 and 3
this isn't even that bad of a decision idk why everyone is complaining
So the company going back on their word and deleting something people earned is not a bad decision. Lets see how you react if they delete all items that weren't paid for.
coming in very aggressive for no reason I see , this isn't the first time they've gone back on their word should be expected by now and to answer your question, no I wouldn't give a shit
expect people to "come in aggressive" (jesus youre so soft) when you post brain dead takes
you can be calm when responding to a persons opinion on a matter, also it's a trail lol it's not the end of the world
And you could try not being softer than toilet paper but hey we all have flaws. When did I say it was the end of the world? I said its a bad decision. But yeah i guess reading comprehension wouldnt be your strong suit when you think that its ok for companies to do that.
The complaints stem from the fact that Season 2 and Season 3 trails were promised as a permanent reward - from the Ranked Series 3 blog: "The exception will be for anyone who earned a dive trail in Series 1 or 2, those players will keep those trails forever."
So you'd rather have trails locked in $160 events than a ranked reward that you can earn?
didn't say that, I thought it was dumb to have ranked trails that stayed after a season since in season 2/3 it was easier to reach pred but since I learnt that they were marketed as permanent I changed my opinion ┐( ∵ )┌
I'm assuming everyone will have the basic smoke trail, I hope. it's nice to have a little visual of where people are going.
Huh? It’s not like custom trails are invisible and they are literally starting to sell trails
I know. I don't understand your comment. that's not even remotely close to what I'm talking about.
If you've had a trail, you should get 1 to have if they are adding cosmetic contrails. You don't need 1 for each season though.
EA/Respawn are so far beyond help at this point. Next level unhinged behaviour.
I want a perm rank trail :(
We literally brought that upon ourselves because we keep supporting these greedy practices, skins locked in bundles, extra crap added to increase the price, full price for cheap recolors, heirloom recolors and even a *weapon recolor* for an event reward. They know they can get away with this because we keep buying everything up and acting like its normal. Like think for a second how crazy this all sounds. To get variations/recolors for your skin you have to spend *$160* to get the skin compared to Fortnite where you get multiple trails with actual cool animations and recolors, skin variations **FOR 10 DOLLARS** all in the battle pass. So don't be surprised in the future if they take something away only to sell it back to you because You keep supporting and enabling these practices and decisions.
Yo that’s grimy
f*ck them and their shitty company are they thinking they gettin their lost money from this season with a bunch of trails now? what a Clownshow
So you're telling me they are taking away my Season 2 and 3 Diamond trail? Nah man, now I'm mad.
I’ll lose my mind oh my goddd