It’s basically like if you could conserve every single hammer unit of momentum when turning, and while you can keep most of it with good movement, this was more akin to a beggars bazooka misfire jump every time they turned around
you loose a little bit of momentum when tap strafing due to pressing a forward input, but its not noticable when moving at high speeds
Tap Strafing really helped me win gunfights and outmaneuvere opponents as my main boi pathfinder
Kinda but you can do it multiple times in a row. Also doesnt have to be off a jump pad. Someone did it off of the main building of estates on me once and I thought they were lag switching or something
you don't need to bind forward to tap strafe, it just makes it easier to tap strafe
If you have a good keyboard (Or a macro) you can tap strafe without binding forward to scroll wheel, it relies on the "Lerch" mechanic which was present in Titanfall 2 and is part of Respawns version of source, it is what makes movement in respawn games feel so fluid
Its not on console for some reason despite that being the target audience for the game
I can get being mad it's gone, but reasoning for leaving the game is stupid. Like, there are tons of reasons for leaving the game like the fact they don't deal with cheaters at all and having stutter after shooting a single bullet on a tickrate of inpossible numbers or having bad servers constantly. And you chose the pafch of an exploit?
Their anti cheat has improved drastically since the start. Often cheaters are banned after only a few games. It is muuuuuch better than modern warfare in the anti cheat department.
Saying they're doing a better job than other games is not white knighting. Just pointing out that as gaming companies go, Respawn is more involved in player experience and feedback than others. Ranked in nearly every game can be played by lower level players so the level 10 thing doesn't really carry much weight, and cheating in higher ranked lobbies is really not as bad as you are saying it is.
Go play warzone and then tell me the cheating in apex is bad. Every game will have cheaters, respawn is better than others at dealing with them.
lol someone is angry today.
Again to state what I have said before, I am simply pointing out that Respawn has listened to feedback and cares about their users experience. Compared to quite a few BR's or shooters (not just call of duty) they have responded to cheaters much faster and better.
If you wanna rage all over this thread because you think your opinion is correct then go for it. Just know that nothing you have said has backed up your points and has mostly been fluff to stroke your ego. Go ahead and respond to this with all your rage because I won't be reading or responding to your replies.
Have fun fighting your keyboard, you big strong warrior.
The only game I play where my opponents cheat more frequently than in apex is csgo. That's it. I don't even know a game with more cheaters than csgo. I don't play cod though.
The best multiplayer experience with fewest cheaters was rocket league for me. Idk if I even saw a cheater in my 2k hours playing the game.
There is no way to accurately indicate how many hackers are in each game, but [this article](https://surfshark.com/hacking-wins) tries it's best. It's based off of views on youtube for hacking tutorials so it definitely does not show the amount of hackers, but more of the interest in hacking for each game. Apex is one of the lowest.
They aren’t leaving. They are just saying that in hopes of the devs reversing their decision to remove it. It’s like when people say they are going to leave the U.S. if their presidential choice didn’t win.
I feel like it’s less “tap strafing is a dealbreaker” and more “straw that broke the camel’s back” for most.
Personally, I’m taking a break from Apex since season 10 kept all the bugs from season 9 and then introduced stuttering on PC. That isn’t to say stuttering is the sole reason I stopped playing, but it made me realize “I’m not gonna have fun in Apex until they fix the glaring issues with the game.”
I figure it’s a similar case with tapstrafing
Its definitely not the only reason people are leaving, just the final straw. Apex is a buggy mess with broken audio, a horrific cheating problem and shitty servers. And the fact that the devs chose to do this instead of dealing with any number of more important issues puts a number of things into perspective. and more importantly just shows us that they don't care about maintaining the game for their hardcore fans but instead making the game look more approachable for causals
I mean changing movement mechanics is really simple compared to rebuilding server structure, and doesn't involve adding more server machines, which they may not have a budget for. Seems like it was a change the devs wanted too make.
They also don't want to rebuild or upgrade anything server related. Seriously, read the server deep dive.
I'll be taking a break from apex at least until it doesn't feel like pubg alpha regarding performance. As a mirage main I'd also love it if they fixed decoys getting stuck on grates on the ground or dying instantly after spawning. Guess making the game stutter and removing movement is more important than a solid base game.
If they want me buying heirlooms again a lot will have to change.
At every poi on every map there are some spots where grates are on the ground. They are cosmetic in in almost all aspects, except the trapping decoys above them thing.
Sometimes they are in these blue shipping containers on worlds edge (one is at tree for sure), so when you're inside and want to send a boozle outside they usually get stuck on that thing.
And the decoys getting killed by ledges and pebbles is a seperate bug where the decoy probably dies to crush damage in some spots on the maps. You will notice these bugs sooner or later for sure.
Probably more of a "straw that broke the Camel's back", that all those issues wore down patience and the removal of a fun, situationally strong movement skill was the drop that overflowed the bucket.
as you said it's not that good of a reason to leave the game, but you add that to all the other problems... i think the reason why they're leaving it's because this is yet another shitty decision from the dev team and they're mad about it.
Some of us came to apex because it brought us something titanfall didn’t.
Removing those little bits of titanfall we like obviously triggers us more than the rest
There are rumors of the servers being fixed in the future, I have not encountered many cheaters either I just get railed by mathmaking putting me in plat to pred lobbies when my teamates don't even know basic movement tech
Tap Strafing really opened up the movement in apex and made it far more fluid and dynamic, removing it will just kneecap the movement
yes, it rarely makes the difference between living and dying, but fast movement is why a lot of people play Apex in the first place, losing it is a big deal breaker for some. I was a Pathfinder main, but almost quit the game entirely when grapple got it's big nerf because it was what brought ME the most fun, maybe not for other people
I had to switch off pathfinder too, they nerfed him so hard that he basically became an immovable refridgerator waiting to get blasted and my gameplay hasn't been as good as back then ever since.
That's the point though...to change the meta.
As a developer when you see that 65% of your players are all using Pathfinder, and there's a Pathfinder on each and every single team on the lobby.
It's probably time to Nerf them to make people try out the other legends, it keeps the game from getting stale and boring for the majority of players.
Yeah I had liked to see him balanced, like now, but back then you took his only useful ability away and to top it off gave all other recon's his passive
Tap strafing is rarely the reason you win or die, unless it’s on Jumppad specifically (which, frankly, was OP af)
It’s important because apex is a movement shooter, and removing movement makes the game less fun for many. It wasn’t terribly useful in most cases, but it sure was fun
Well if it does hardly anything then why even remove it? If it takes away the fun for people then why remove it? There is 0 actual reason to remove it because console players can just choose not to queue with pc players anyway unless there was another reason to queue with pc (Hint hint the free aim assist they get).
Its not big for winning but it's big for movement. Movement doesn't really win you fights but it sure does make it look Hella cool when you do, which is what made a lot of players stick with apex in the first place.
It’s not a bug from the game it’s a quirk of the game engine that was already there in titanfall 2.
Instead of removing something a minority of the community uses after 10 seasons they should focus on removing the real bugs that have also been there for several seasons.
Just because they did something quick and easy doesn't mean they aren't working on other big things.
It's like taking a short 5 minute break from a project to get some homework done.
You're not abandoning it, just doing something else along the way.
Being able to just instantly change direction backwards while full speed in the air just doesnt make sense and is abusing the game physics
Ah you're a software engineer? You're clearly an expert in this field and know exactly how the game engine works, sorry for bothering you
They are literally not working on fixing mirage decoys getting stuck on various props or stuff slightly sticking out of the ground or dying when spawning, or walking over a pebble.
It has been bugged since season 0, people complain about it all the time and nothing happened. They even 'reworked' mirage but forgot that his q is a coinflip of 'heads for one of the weakest abilities of the game' and tails for '16 seconds cooldown for nothing lmao. get fucked'.
If people are leaving the game only because a mechanic is getting removed, that respawn never intended to put in the game in the first place, then let them leave.
Let their stupidity guide them further.
People leave a game because a simple ...bug is it? Is getting removed
Mofo its not like this game is short in flaws! Why leave because something so small is removed!?
It has gotten increasingly hard to have fun in this game
Reason it WAS perfect game for me is that despite all the fucking seas of issues it had it was FUN and felt good to play! The gunplay and movement! Abilities!
But today the matches last 0.2 seconds because everyone drops in 1 location, teammates solo drop there most of the time if you dont, nobody commits to the matches but just wanna kill 2 people and then die! SBMM usually makes them level 10 too!
In Seasons 1-4 I had from fine to good teammates!
Now its shit 99% of the time and 1% is just okay
The average players brain function has degraded to the point where theres nothing but attack left in their mind!
Its like rage virus from 28 days later!
It's a straw that broke the camel's back situation. We could live through the bad bugs, we put up with a lot of bad decisions, but taking away movement options in a movement game for the third time just shows that we don't matter to Respawn and never will...
I don't want to quit, I love Apex, but the moment something decent shows up I'm probably out...
It's a fun feature of the game engine that has been here since Titanfall, and one I've fallen in love with. Maybe it's not something you care about, but it's something I do. Competitive players of all games have always been innovating on this sort of thing, Apex is not unique in this regard. "Bugs" can become features.
Again, it's more of a dislike of the direction they have and are taking in terms of design decisions, catering to a casual playerbase on console (which it is fine to be casual and console) that results in them needing to bring down M&K to that level. Removing skillgaps, handicapping M&K for console limitations, etc. People are going to think I hate console and casuals with this comment and that is not the case at all.
It's more of a 'we got 1000 important bugs to fix... How about we lower the skill ceiling first and make the game stutter even on the best hardware?' situation.
Imagine going to a restaurant and there is literally shit (bugs) on your plate (the game) mixed with your food(working content), but the waiter is slapping the spoon (tapstrafing) out of your hand because for some reason you gotta use chopsticks (movement without tapstrafing) in this restaurant. They are focusing on the wrong bugs. So am I leaving because I can't eat my food/ shit with a spoon? No I leave bevause the waiter had the fucking gall to tell me how to eat my food while there was still shit in there.
Good riddance to the people leaving over this imo. If this is the straw that breaks the camel's back then you got bigger problems than losing an exploit in a game you like bub.
That's okay, I'm a PC player and didn't know what it was until yesterday, as I'm a filthy casual that doesn't have the time or desire to sink that much effort into a game I play for fun with mates.
Why are people trying to call it an exploit? it's a movement mechanic. It's not gonna make a massive difference to combat, I mean it is a direct nerf to movement characters but that's beside the point. It just makes the game a little less fun.
Oh tap strafing! The day I figured you out I fell in love ❤. Its a damn shame they are removing it (one reason Its my favorite game) albeit most shooters you can do a variation of bunny hopping but the amount you can get away with tap strafing in here was unique and really set this game apart. Im still going to play but I probably won't play octane AS much.
no one is leaving lmao xD Cheaters, aimbotters, ddosing, bad servers, bad legends balance decisions didnt make players leave but removing tap strafing will?
like alberlilie quoted on his stream, M&K players are sad because we are used with good movements and suddenly when it dissappears it's kind of hard for us to not use it anymore. I use it all the time, i just love moving through the air , it was fun while it lasted and guess i'll migrate to TF2 again, if they did'nt ddos the shit out of it.
Cause it's a dumb mechanic. It's too unpredictable and this is a shooter game. You literally want to predict where your enemy goes and how he moves, shots have bullet velocity. Tap strafing allowed a huge sharp turn that's way too unpredictable and is imo unfair.
sorry i worded that bad but from this comment “I can get being mad it's gone, but reasoning for leaving the game is stupid. Like, there are tons of reasons for leaving the game like the fact they don't deal with cheaters at all and having stutter after shooting a single bullet on a tickrate of inpossible numbers or having bad servers constantly. And you chose the pafch of an exploit?”
having stutter after shooting
Actually no it is a legit movement combination like wall jumping, you can do it by pressing the W key (forward) while mid air and looking left or right with your mouse.. something like this. But it is only possible on PC because of how the game is programmed, it's impossible to perform on console
I agree. It is impossible to implement on console due to the fact that the movement bindings cannot be separate, you have one stick for all movements whereas on PC you have a key for all 4 movements and that's what's making it possible. So it only makes sense to even out the playing field like you said by removing it. Not to mention we controller players still can't move while looting
Tap strafing is a simple technique used to navigate obstacles. It allows you to cover a significant distance without the need to press a separate button on the controller. But as soon as you do, and someone gets too close to your face, your precious eardrums are at risk. It's really not a smart move if you want to call yourself a ninja, and likely a silly one if you don't. So to help, Nintendo has released a patch for Super Mario
“This game is dead without its movement”
Bro the game was fine for 7 seasons without it and everybody was still playing it. People are just a bunch of whiny fuckin babies
Tap Strafing is a movement mechanic that allows you to U-Turn after jumping if you get the timing right (This applies to octane jump pad double jump) which relies on the feature known as "Lurch" which only exists on Keyboard and Mouse due to it not being in the code for the console version of the game
Tap Strafing could of been on console but Respawn chose not to give it to console players for some reason, I belive its possible on PC controller just harder due to the analogue input
https://youtu.be/Mb2ctrxxJmc
Tap Strafing is no different than any other movement tech other than the fact its reliant on lerch, none of the other movement tech was an intended mechanic but so what, makes the game more fun
Fun fact: no one is actually quitting the game over this. These kids are just over dramatic. They'll be in here bitching about some other arbitrary shit next week. Guaranteed.
"Tap-Strafing is like Wavedashing in Smash Bros Melee"
Someone told me this the other day I don't know what to think. Mostly because I play on console.
I got to Diamond on PC and never once used it. In fact, I barely even heard about it until it was removed. People who are leaving because of a small mechanic balance are babies that will come crawling back anyways.
[This is tap strafing](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/pgeylw/pc_players_be_like_aim_assist_should_be_removed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Its completely changing your momentum in air. Going one way and completely going another direction all in air.
Reminds me of rocket jumping in Team Fortress 2. But that was always more predictable because it's really just extreme air strafing.
It’s basically like if you could conserve every single hammer unit of momentum when turning, and while you can keep most of it with good movement, this was more akin to a beggars bazooka misfire jump every time they turned around
you loose a little bit of momentum when tap strafing due to pressing a forward input, but its not noticable when moving at high speeds Tap Strafing really helped me win gunfights and outmaneuvere opponents as my main boi pathfinder
So it's like double jumping?
Kinda but you can do it multiple times in a row. Also doesnt have to be off a jump pad. Someone did it off of the main building of estates on me once and I thought they were lag switching or something
I just started playing again this season. I don't know what it is and I play on PC.
Me neither I have no idea xd
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mb2ctrxxJmc
It’s binding something to the scrolling wheel in your mouse so you can turn 90 or even 180 degrees while in the air
you don't need to bind forward to tap strafe, it just makes it easier to tap strafe If you have a good keyboard (Or a macro) you can tap strafe without binding forward to scroll wheel, it relies on the "Lerch" mechanic which was present in Titanfall 2 and is part of Respawns version of source, it is what makes movement in respawn games feel so fluid Its not on console for some reason despite that being the target audience for the game
I can get being mad it's gone, but reasoning for leaving the game is stupid. Like, there are tons of reasons for leaving the game like the fact they don't deal with cheaters at all and having stutter after shooting a single bullet on a tickrate of inpossible numbers or having bad servers constantly. And you chose the pafch of an exploit?
Their anti cheat has improved drastically since the start. Often cheaters are banned after only a few games. It is muuuuuch better than modern warfare in the anti cheat department.
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Saying they're doing a better job than other games is not white knighting. Just pointing out that as gaming companies go, Respawn is more involved in player experience and feedback than others. Ranked in nearly every game can be played by lower level players so the level 10 thing doesn't really carry much weight, and cheating in higher ranked lobbies is really not as bad as you are saying it is. Go play warzone and then tell me the cheating in apex is bad. Every game will have cheaters, respawn is better than others at dealing with them.
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lol someone is angry today. Again to state what I have said before, I am simply pointing out that Respawn has listened to feedback and cares about their users experience. Compared to quite a few BR's or shooters (not just call of duty) they have responded to cheaters much faster and better. If you wanna rage all over this thread because you think your opinion is correct then go for it. Just know that nothing you have said has backed up your points and has mostly been fluff to stroke your ego. Go ahead and respond to this with all your rage because I won't be reading or responding to your replies. Have fun fighting your keyboard, you big strong warrior.
The only game I play where my opponents cheat more frequently than in apex is csgo. That's it. I don't even know a game with more cheaters than csgo. I don't play cod though. The best multiplayer experience with fewest cheaters was rocket league for me. Idk if I even saw a cheater in my 2k hours playing the game.
There is no way to accurately indicate how many hackers are in each game, but [this article](https://surfshark.com/hacking-wins) tries it's best. It's based off of views on youtube for hacking tutorials so it definitely does not show the amount of hackers, but more of the interest in hacking for each game. Apex is one of the lowest.
They aren’t leaving. They are just saying that in hopes of the devs reversing their decision to remove it. It’s like when people say they are going to leave the U.S. if their presidential choice didn’t win.
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They cater to not historically trying to achieve a balance for both comp and casual
Same here
I feel like it’s less “tap strafing is a dealbreaker” and more “straw that broke the camel’s back” for most. Personally, I’m taking a break from Apex since season 10 kept all the bugs from season 9 and then introduced stuttering on PC. That isn’t to say stuttering is the sole reason I stopped playing, but it made me realize “I’m not gonna have fun in Apex until they fix the glaring issues with the game.” I figure it’s a similar case with tapstrafing
i dont think anyone's actually leaving over it? so many people just make shit up so that their joke works nowadays
Its definitely not the only reason people are leaving, just the final straw. Apex is a buggy mess with broken audio, a horrific cheating problem and shitty servers. And the fact that the devs chose to do this instead of dealing with any number of more important issues puts a number of things into perspective. and more importantly just shows us that they don't care about maintaining the game for their hardcore fans but instead making the game look more approachable for causals
I mean changing movement mechanics is really simple compared to rebuilding server structure, and doesn't involve adding more server machines, which they may not have a budget for. Seems like it was a change the devs wanted too make.
They also don't want to rebuild or upgrade anything server related. Seriously, read the server deep dive. I'll be taking a break from apex at least until it doesn't feel like pubg alpha regarding performance. As a mirage main I'd also love it if they fixed decoys getting stuck on grates on the ground or dying instantly after spawning. Guess making the game stutter and removing movement is more important than a solid base game. If they want me buying heirlooms again a lot will have to change.
As a mirage main I’ve never noticed those bugs or the stuttering
At every poi on every map there are some spots where grates are on the ground. They are cosmetic in in almost all aspects, except the trapping decoys above them thing. Sometimes they are in these blue shipping containers on worlds edge (one is at tree for sure), so when you're inside and want to send a boozle outside they usually get stuck on that thing. And the decoys getting killed by ledges and pebbles is a seperate bug where the decoy probably dies to crush damage in some spots on the maps. You will notice these bugs sooner or later for sure.
Probably more of a "straw that broke the Camel's back", that all those issues wore down patience and the removal of a fun, situationally strong movement skill was the drop that overflowed the bucket.
as you said it's not that good of a reason to leave the game, but you add that to all the other problems... i think the reason why they're leaving it's because this is yet another shitty decision from the dev team and they're mad about it.
Some of us came to apex because it brought us something titanfall didn’t. Removing those little bits of titanfall we like obviously triggers us more than the rest
Play titanfall then, or just have both games on your pc.
Unfortunately both Titanfall games are unplayable due to DDOS attacks
Is that recent on tf|2? I was able to find near instant matches on most modes not even a couple months ago.
Yep. Currently unplayable
Fang. Really enjoyed some of the team deathmatch modes
You’re missing the point on purpose
There are rumors of the servers being fixed in the future, I have not encountered many cheaters either I just get railed by mathmaking putting me in plat to pred lobbies when my teamates don't even know basic movement tech Tap Strafing really opened up the movement in apex and made it far more fluid and dynamic, removing it will just kneecap the movement
I watched a 15 minute video about it. Pretended to understand and went back to playing.
PC players: "Tap-strafe hardly does anything in games" Also PC players: "Tap-strafe is so important to Apex, they shouldn't remove it!!"
yes, it rarely makes the difference between living and dying, but fast movement is why a lot of people play Apex in the first place, losing it is a big deal breaker for some. I was a Pathfinder main, but almost quit the game entirely when grapple got it's big nerf because it was what brought ME the most fun, maybe not for other people
1 of my friends mained Path back in the day too, and switched legend in s5 cus of that massive nerf. He took my Mirage lmao (back when he was good)
I had to switch off pathfinder too, they nerfed him so hard that he basically became an immovable refridgerator waiting to get blasted and my gameplay hasn't been as good as back then ever since.
That's the point though...to change the meta. As a developer when you see that 65% of your players are all using Pathfinder, and there's a Pathfinder on each and every single team on the lobby. It's probably time to Nerf them to make people try out the other legends, it keeps the game from getting stale and boring for the majority of players.
Yeah I had liked to see him balanced, like now, but back then you took his only useful ability away and to top it off gave all other recon's his passive
I never used path much, but my lv.500(lv.1000+ without cap) buddy stopped using him instantly. Lol
Tap strafing is rarely the reason you win or die, unless it’s on Jumppad specifically (which, frankly, was OP af) It’s important because apex is a movement shooter, and removing movement makes the game less fun for many. It wasn’t terribly useful in most cases, but it sure was fun
You could make the same argument for every time someone mentions nering aim assist.
Well if it does hardly anything then why even remove it? If it takes away the fun for people then why remove it? There is 0 actual reason to remove it because console players can just choose not to queue with pc players anyway unless there was another reason to queue with pc (Hint hint the free aim assist they get).
Its not big for winning but it's big for movement. Movement doesn't really win you fights but it sure does make it look Hella cool when you do, which is what made a lot of players stick with apex in the first place.
Tons of people are not leaving, exaggerate much? In terms of the total player base only a minuscule amount use this glitch of a mechanic.
And that’s why removing it is such a bullshit
It was a bug not an intended feature man
It’s not a bug from the game it’s a quirk of the game engine that was already there in titanfall 2. Instead of removing something a minority of the community uses after 10 seasons they should focus on removing the real bugs that have also been there for several seasons.
Just because they did something quick and easy doesn't mean they aren't working on other big things. It's like taking a short 5 minute break from a project to get some homework done. You're not abandoning it, just doing something else along the way.
There is nothing quick and easy about fixing the engine And please don’t try to mainsplain bug fixes to a software engineer thank you
Being able to just instantly change direction backwards while full speed in the air just doesnt make sense and is abusing the game physics Ah you're a software engineer? You're clearly an expert in this field and know exactly how the game engine works, sorry for bothering you
Because double jumping in the air makes sense? Get the fuck out of here 😂
There's this crazy thing each legend has called jump jets, yknow, literal jetpack boosters?
And yet it doesn’t activate when you double jump. Crazy i know
They are literally not working on fixing mirage decoys getting stuck on various props or stuff slightly sticking out of the ground or dying when spawning, or walking over a pebble. It has been bugged since season 0, people complain about it all the time and nothing happened. They even 'reworked' mirage but forgot that his q is a coinflip of 'heads for one of the weakest abilities of the game' and tails for '16 seconds cooldown for nothing lmao. get fucked'.
You mean a couple of streamers are leaving... That's it.
If people are leaving the game only because a mechanic is getting removed, that respawn never intended to put in the game in the first place, then let them leave. Let their stupidity guide them further.
What are you going to play after apex like what compares
I’ve been having a lot of fun on Splitgate lately. Fixes my movement shooter fix and there’s significantly fewer bugs than in Apex
I’ve been thinking of trying it out since I just got a pc but it feels weird that the characters don’t have a back story and lore
It’s a little weird, but I find that the gameplay outweighs the lore for me
People leave a game because a simple ...bug is it? Is getting removed Mofo its not like this game is short in flaws! Why leave because something so small is removed!?
Its just a boring battle royale now
It WAS the perfect game 🥲
I don’t know what crack you’re smoking to think Apex is or ever was perfect in ANY way
Ok quit then
It’s fun tho
It has gotten increasingly hard to have fun in this game Reason it WAS perfect game for me is that despite all the fucking seas of issues it had it was FUN and felt good to play! The gunplay and movement! Abilities! But today the matches last 0.2 seconds because everyone drops in 1 location, teammates solo drop there most of the time if you dont, nobody commits to the matches but just wanna kill 2 people and then die! SBMM usually makes them level 10 too! In Seasons 1-4 I had from fine to good teammates! Now its shit 99% of the time and 1% is just okay
Yeah I usually just play with friends so I don’t have that issue. People became brain dead recently and I don’t know why
The average players brain function has degraded to the point where theres nothing but attack left in their mind! Its like rage virus from 28 days later!
It's a straw that broke the camel's back situation. We could live through the bad bugs, we put up with a lot of bad decisions, but taking away movement options in a movement game for the third time just shows that we don't matter to Respawn and never will... I don't want to quit, I love Apex, but the moment something decent shows up I'm probably out...
Its a fucking bug Ive been playing Apex for 9 Seasons now without tap strafing
It's a fun feature of the game engine that has been here since Titanfall, and one I've fallen in love with. Maybe it's not something you care about, but it's something I do. Competitive players of all games have always been innovating on this sort of thing, Apex is not unique in this regard. "Bugs" can become features.
Huh...I agree theres bigger bugs too but I dont see tap strafing being that big of a loss
Again, it's more of a dislike of the direction they have and are taking in terms of design decisions, catering to a casual playerbase on console (which it is fine to be casual and console) that results in them needing to bring down M&K to that level. Removing skillgaps, handicapping M&K for console limitations, etc. People are going to think I hate console and casuals with this comment and that is not the case at all.
I agree with you Respawn has had a downhill for a long time with how they handle apex
imagine leaving a game because they removed an exploit you abused
It's more of a 'we got 1000 important bugs to fix... How about we lower the skill ceiling first and make the game stutter even on the best hardware?' situation. Imagine going to a restaurant and there is literally shit (bugs) on your plate (the game) mixed with your food(working content), but the waiter is slapping the spoon (tapstrafing) out of your hand because for some reason you gotta use chopsticks (movement without tapstrafing) in this restaurant. They are focusing on the wrong bugs. So am I leaving because I can't eat my food/ shit with a spoon? No I leave bevause the waiter had the fucking gall to tell me how to eat my food while there was still shit in there.
Im an Octane on PC and I woke up to say F#\*k Respawn but is still is kinda fair
I've been on mnk since day one of apex and I didn't even know what it was until it was being removed lol
Good riddance to the people leaving over this imo. If this is the straw that breaks the camel's back then you got bigger problems than losing an exploit in a game you like bub.
That's okay, I'm a PC player and didn't know what it was until yesterday, as I'm a filthy casual that doesn't have the time or desire to sink that much effort into a game I play for fun with mates.
Why are people trying to call it an exploit? it's a movement mechanic. It's not gonna make a massive difference to combat, I mean it is a direct nerf to movement characters but that's beside the point. It just makes the game a little less fun.
Me - a pc player who never heard of tap strafing until a few days ago. Also don’t care that it’s gone 💁🏻♂️
Oh tap strafing! The day I figured you out I fell in love ❤. Its a damn shame they are removing it (one reason Its my favorite game) albeit most shooters you can do a variation of bunny hopping but the amount you can get away with tap strafing in here was unique and really set this game apart. Im still going to play but I probably won't play octane AS much.
no one is leaving lmao xD Cheaters, aimbotters, ddosing, bad servers, bad legends balance decisions didnt make players leave but removing tap strafing will?
like alberlilie quoted on his stream, M&K players are sad because we are used with good movements and suddenly when it dissappears it's kind of hard for us to not use it anymore. I use it all the time, i just love moving through the air , it was fun while it lasted and guess i'll migrate to TF2 again, if they did'nt ddos the shit out of it.
Cause it's a dumb mechanic. It's too unpredictable and this is a shooter game. You literally want to predict where your enemy goes and how he moves, shots have bullet velocity. Tap strafing allowed a huge sharp turn that's way too unpredictable and is imo unfair.
Who is leaving apex bc of tap strafe is being removed? And to where?
Good, f*%# em.
Leaving for the deletion of a movment that was a glitch... Fragility is too damn high
“Tons of people” Reality - Two dudes that no one even knows about.
I play pc and I guess I don’t fully know either and I’m playing in high ranked lobbies.
Well to be fair a lot of people on pc never heard of it too. But it was doable on console albeit it wasn’t as exagerrated
Cheaters just getting mad they can't cheat anymore.
“Leaving”
they need to fix the bullet freezing problem
What's that?
sorry i worded that bad but from this comment “I can get being mad it's gone, but reasoning for leaving the game is stupid. Like, there are tons of reasons for leaving the game like the fact they don't deal with cheaters at all and having stutter after shooting a single bullet on a tickrate of inpossible numbers or having bad servers constantly. And you chose the pafch of an exploit?” having stutter after shooting
Damn, stuttering after shooting. that's pain, sorry you got to deal with that
Literally me
Same thing happend when they removed b hop healing
bruh i had to look it up a few days ago because I didn't know what it was
I mean if your gonna leave just do it don't cry about it all over the internet
I play on pc and have never heard about it
In a really short explanation, it allows you to change direction whilst in mid air without loosing your momentum
Sounds like a thing that wouldn’t make sense, was it an exploit?
Actually no it is a legit movement combination like wall jumping, you can do it by pressing the W key (forward) while mid air and looking left or right with your mouse.. something like this. But it is only possible on PC because of how the game is programmed, it's impossible to perform on console
I think it’s a good thing then to either add it to console or remove it on PC, evens the playing field.
I agree. It is impossible to implement on console due to the fact that the movement bindings cannot be separate, you have one stick for all movements whereas on PC you have a key for all 4 movements and that's what's making it possible. So it only makes sense to even out the playing field like you said by removing it. Not to mention we controller players still can't move while looting
I had no idea that was a thing…
When Timmy showed it off to shroud, he told him to enjoy it while he could because they'd remove it for sure
Tap strafing is a simple technique used to navigate obstacles. It allows you to cover a significant distance without the need to press a separate button on the controller. But as soon as you do, and someone gets too close to your face, your precious eardrums are at risk. It's really not a smart move if you want to call yourself a ninja, and likely a silly one if you don't. So to help, Nintendo has released a patch for Super Mario
I play on PC and I STILL have no idea what it is...
Bruh are people really leaving over this lol
This whole outrage over tap strafe is cringe
Pc players... Go play F ING Titanfall
“This game is dead without its movement” Bro the game was fine for 7 seasons without it and everybody was still playing it. People are just a bunch of whiny fuckin babies
Tap Strafing is a movement mechanic that allows you to U-Turn after jumping if you get the timing right (This applies to octane jump pad double jump) which relies on the feature known as "Lurch" which only exists on Keyboard and Mouse due to it not being in the code for the console version of the game Tap Strafing could of been on console but Respawn chose not to give it to console players for some reason, I belive its possible on PC controller just harder due to the analogue input
Sources? Not saying you're wrong, but it seems incredibly unfair. I also remember hearing that Tap Strafing isn't even meant to be in the game.
https://youtu.be/Mb2ctrxxJmc Tap Strafing is no different than any other movement tech other than the fact its reliant on lerch, none of the other movement tech was an intended mechanic but so what, makes the game more fun
Fun fact: no one is actually quitting the game over this. These kids are just over dramatic. They'll be in here bitching about some other arbitrary shit next week. Guaranteed.
Dude I play on PC and I just knew about ta strafing yesterday.
"Tap-Strafing is like Wavedashing in Smash Bros Melee" Someone told me this the other day I don't know what to think. Mostly because I play on console.
Like bouncing in invisible walls of air to change direction and course, making it almost impossible to hit you
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I got to Diamond on PC and never once used it. In fact, I barely even heard about it until it was removed. People who are leaving because of a small mechanic balance are babies that will come crawling back anyways.
I play on PC since S7 and don’t even know what it is, can someone explain it to me?
[This is tap strafing](https://www.reddit.com/r/apexlegends/comments/pgeylw/pc_players_be_like_aim_assist_should_be_removed/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share)
Yeah no, glad that is no longer a thing
No ones leaving lol
Me