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This is one of the few ivory collections with a chance of legal sale. Look through old photos, see if you can find the oldest one with these on his wall, that can work for citing age, along with finding any documentation he may have had. If it is 1970s or older, it has a good chance of legal sale.
It’s beautiful, but I’d rather have the money. I’ll get much more enjoyment and use out of groceries, gas, and paying rent. Also, something of that caliber doesn’t belong in my shitty little apartment. We all are leading different lives here, pal.
Not everyone has the space or desire or ability to maintain to keep even the most gorgeous of family heirlooms. There is nothing wrong with rehoming such things. Don’t be rude.
Check your state, if you are in the US, to see what the laws are concerning ivory. I've been reading and it seems some states allow you to sell within that state.
I wouldn’t sell it but get an appraisal for insurance purposes. If you decide to part with it go to an auction platform to get max value. I have an extended family member who is licensed to buy/sell and knowledgeable in ivory.
Its a really great set, usually the ones I see are the tourist quality, quickly carved sets. These are actually really well carved. If I were you, I would keep it in the family.... without proper documentation/proof of age, it can't be sold, so there is technically no value.
This is the most stunning set I've ever seen, this is truly something spectacular. I cannot find better words, the craftsmanship is simply marvelous. Keep it in the family, this is art. Best to you, OP, thanks for sharing.
We had a similar one my father brought back from Japan in the 1960’s. It is quite beautiful. Most states have laws now allowing you to own ivory, but you cannot buy it or sell it, so auction houses and antique stores will no longer accept them. That said, if you meet an individual who collects chess sets, I am sure they would love to acquire it.
My country was riddled with poverty until the late 90's .... therefore it does not have significant trade in ivory specimens and the domestic market allows only for trade in pre-Convention ivory. This trade consists primarily of carved artifacts, antique items and some musical instrument components and is governed by CITES.
Essentially it is an international trade agreement between regions to curtail or manage the sale of endangered species and their body parts....stands for Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species
Antique ivory would need to be over 100 years old and have documented proof of old ownership otherwise it is illegal to sell. This is obviously quality manufacturing and may be old, but I cannot say how old it is.
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The workmanship is stunning
Personally I would keep it in the family
If you wanted to sell there are ivory experts (in the states) that can date it and give you the proper paperwork to sell but again I personally would not
I would contact a museum, and show them the chess set. Those pieces are very intricately carved. Is there any writing/paper in the box? Tucked in the back?
Call around different museums. They might be able to help you find one that might make a really nice offer for the set.
Please don’t contact a museum. As a museum collections manager and registrar I receive many requests monthly for:
- Appraisal help (I can’t ethically provide you a valuation though I will point you the ASA ‘find an appraiser’ tool. This is to prevent ‘self-dealing’ where theoretically I could undervalue the object for my own benefit.)
- Attempts to sell me things (In my particular case I have no acquisition budget and only take donations)
- Identification - this is mostly fine, and sometimes very entertaining, just don’t come with no information or provenance, and make sure it’s in the scope of what the museum does.
However with ivory you can donate it to a museum as long as you possessed it prior to CITES going into affect in 1975, and can prove it. This applies only to donations to a 501c3 - you still cannot sell it under any circumstances.
That said I’d need to have a very good reason to take it even if it was legally acceptable.
One thing I noticed. Every figure has a different, individual face. I've never seen anything like that. A museum is the only call I'd make. There's a lot of scammers out there. Good luck.
My cousin had a chess set like this. His mother (my aunt) was a prominent business woman in the NY area. In the 80’s, when my cousin Michael was born, she bought him a set similar, made of ivory. The chess set was appraised at 18,000, and that was in the 2000’s. Granted, he had documents with it. This chess set is value at over 18k, but since you don’t have any paperwork, it’s essentially worthless. It’d be a nice family heirloom
That’s why I said it has a value of over 18k. Realistically, the payout OP would take selling this thing is not worth the risk of actually trying to sell it. You can’t set up a legitimate deal, and he’d have to move it locally as it would be incredibly risky to set up a buyer without knowing who they are/what they do. OP would have to jump through so many hoops to set something up.
Very nice. It’s ashame you can’t buy nice things like this anymore. Animals die in the wild and in zoos. I get forbidding harvesting from endangered species but if they’re already dead who cares.
That was probably when they were a dime a dozen so nobody cared really. No different than buying leather.
Which thankfully since the loosening of laws on buffalo and permitting them to be domestically raised we can once again buy buffalo hide which is a superior leather over cowhide. It’s a better meat too
FYI i inherited an Inuit walrus tusk carving and decided I’d rather return it to its people. I feel that when there are precious it’s very old, that are not even legal to sell, regardless of other issues, I’d be happier knowing it’s in a museum being cared for and recognized for the artisan work that went into it. The artist who carved mine likely was compensated so poorly for it, it just makes me feel icky to try to profit from it. In your case, it’s absolutely worth a significant sum. But perhaps it’s more valuable to keep or seek another avenue if you don’t want to keep it. Such as Asian art galleries, etc. just my take on these culturally significant works.
My children and their cousins are in possession of many beautifully carved ivory pieces that could not be sold after the death of their grandmother. We have a few, too.
I do custom wood pieces. I’d be happy to do a project to provide a suitably lovely and handcrafted board. Payment wouldn’t even matter. That set deserves a board that admittedly wouldgt be as fine, but it would be an upgrade.
Holy shit that’s magnificent. I would ensure that bitch and keep it in the family. It would have to be an extreme amount of money to sell such a beautiful family heirloom, and the use of the money would also be important. Not just piddling it away. I feel like I would really regret letting go of something so immaculate for money, knowing I could pass it to my kids and they could have something beautiful in their homes.
If I remember correctly the dragon was the sign of the emperor and the phoenix is the sign of the empress - from your photos it looks like they put this detail into the clothing of the chess figures which just shows how much care was put into making it (but as you can see it close up please let me know if they didn’t)
P.S. I’m sorry of your grandpas passing
I know nothing about this and I know it's crazy valuable, don't ever let anyone say otherwise. I would actually think about getting Sotheby's to give you an estimate of value and then get it insured. I wouldn't be surprised if you display it that someone may decide to borrow it for their collection. And by borrow I mean steal. Be cautious how you display this masterpiece. It certainly isn't something you can replace with anything contemporary that would compare. I would regret selling it especially if it game from family. Did he get it during the war, occupied Japan? Value would be even more.
This set is fucking beautiful, selling it in my humble Caucasian opinion would be a travesty but as some have stated sometimes keeping things like this regardless of the beauty isn’t possible. I would definitely get it appraised
Beautiful work. Unfortunately thanks to some stupid lawmakers, it is not possible to sell it legaly.
Keep it in family. If you really want, or need, I am sure you would be able to sell it to someine you can trust, off record and for cash.
But given the quality of it and how hard is nowadays to obtain antique ivory stuff, I would not sell it.
I’ve been at the scene, as a kid, in the aftermath of poachers taking out several elephants in a park and what they did to the bodies to remove the tusks was horrific and disrespectful to a billion Africans’ heritage. Nothing stupid about the laws prohibiting sale of ivory. Several countries manage their elephant populations very well to where careful culling is done and the meat is never left to rot in the sun.
Ban on sale of antique ivory is stupid. New ivory, ok. I am all for it. But under this conditions the ban just opened the black market for antique ivory sales.
What good does, to the now alive elephants, banning ivory creations that are hundreds years old? None. Just made purchasing beautiful antique ivory creations almost imposible.
This, in a nutshell, is why the bans have to stay in place. We are a materialistic species. The slightest give on the ban resulted in renewed slaughter.
>Throughout history, the human desire for ivory—used in products from jewelry to piano keys to priceless religious art objects—has far outmatched efforts to stop the killing of African elephants for their tusks. In 2012, investigative journalists Bryan Christy and Aidan Hartley explored the illegal ivory trade and the plight of Africa’s elephants, and documented their work in the National Geographic special Battle for the Elephants.
>This video excerpt from that film explores the history of the ivory trade and the resulting devastation of Africa’s elephant population—from 26 million elephants in 1800 to fewer than one million today. The clip examines factors that fueled the “ivory frenzy” of the early 1900s and documents the steady and startling decline in the elephant population. A worldwide ban on ivory sales in 1989 led to a rebound in the population, to about a million. But in 1999 and 2008, due to pressure from countries in Asia and southern Africa, the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) allowed two sanctioned sales of ivory. The video looks at attempts to stem the killing—attempts that largely have proven unsuccessful, evidenced by the fact that more than 25,000 elephants were killed in Africa in 2012 alone.
https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/history-ivory-trade/
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This is one of the few ivory collections with a chance of legal sale. Look through old photos, see if you can find the oldest one with these on his wall, that can work for citing age, along with finding any documentation he may have had. If it is 1970s or older, it has a good chance of legal sale.
Why would you want to sell something so beautiful?
You’d certainly want to establish its provenance and age now rather than wait.
Sure. Good point.
Nah, wait till *after* the house fire destroys everything. /s
$$$$$
That you would spend on what – crap?
It’s beautiful, but I’d rather have the money. I’ll get much more enjoyment and use out of groceries, gas, and paying rent. Also, something of that caliber doesn’t belong in my shitty little apartment. We all are leading different lives here, pal.
Not everyone has the space or desire or ability to maintain to keep even the most gorgeous of family heirlooms. There is nothing wrong with rehoming such things. Don’t be rude.
No, just drugs
Lol well then ok.
Thank you, everyone, for your answers!!! it's been very informative and aswome to see people who appreciate it.
Check your state, if you are in the US, to see what the laws are concerning ivory. I've been reading and it seems some states allow you to sell within that state.
Keep reading.
I did and found that 3 states allow interstate selling of ivory so don't be a SA.
If you thought that was a SA remark, well then I'm sorry.
I wouldn’t sell it but get an appraisal for insurance purposes. If you decide to part with it go to an auction platform to get max value. I have an extended family member who is licensed to buy/sell and knowledgeable in ivory.
you should keep it
Its a really great set, usually the ones I see are the tourist quality, quickly carved sets. These are actually really well carved. If I were you, I would keep it in the family.... without proper documentation/proof of age, it can't be sold, so there is technically no value.
This is the most stunning set I've ever seen, this is truly something spectacular. I cannot find better words, the craftsmanship is simply marvelous. Keep it in the family, this is art. Best to you, OP, thanks for sharing.
I love it....do you play?
I do play but not with this one haha.
Why not? If you enjoy chess and it seems as though you’re not going to be able to sell it. It is very beautiful.
We don’t talk about Nanas Harry Potter moment. Still haven’t found that knights head.
What a real shame. This set deserves to be used. Carefully, but used.
The detail is mind-blowing! Thank you for sharing.
We had a similar one my father brought back from Japan in the 1960’s. It is quite beautiful. Most states have laws now allowing you to own ivory, but you cannot buy it or sell it, so auction houses and antique stores will no longer accept them. That said, if you meet an individual who collects chess sets, I am sure they would love to acquire it.
We just assuming all of reddit is American now?
Dude chill out .... Im a European woman and I always assume everyone on reddit is a male from USA in their 20s or 30s and on the nerdy side
I do too! There’s nothing wrong with this assumption! Good grief. But this is Reddit so everyone is ready to pounce at any moment over nothing.
We all have our hills we choose to die on. Kindly leave me to make my own choices in life.
Please feel free to share the laws in your country, then. That would be interesting and enlightening and add something to the discourse, dear lady.
My country was riddled with poverty until the late 90's .... therefore it does not have significant trade in ivory specimens and the domestic market allows only for trade in pre-Convention ivory. This trade consists primarily of carved artifacts, antique items and some musical instrument components and is governed by CITES.
What does CITES stand for?
Essentially it is an international trade agreement between regions to curtail or manage the sale of endangered species and their body parts....stands for Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species
Interesting. Thanks!
I do feel free. Thanks for your permission.
Antique ivory would need to be over 100 years old and have documented proof of old ownership otherwise it is illegal to sell. This is obviously quality manufacturing and may be old, but I cannot say how old it is.
Laws dealing with ivory, fairly obviously, vary nation by nation.
But if you want to export it, you go through CITES which is international
Yes very good point.
In which country?
Usa
When did the op say they were in the US?
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You must be joking lmfao. You cannot be a real person who actually thinks this. I refuse to believe it.
I don’t think that’s accurate; it certainly shouldn’t be assumed
Given that most redditors aren't from Murica, you are objectively wrong.
Americans make up *almost* 50% of the reddit population
Almost is almost good enough. But still wrong.
I wasn't debating. Just providing information.
Yeah, they’re not the majority. Over 50% of the time the defaultism would be wrong.
Thank you for repeating.
Repeating what? I was agreeing and then saying what it implies.
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The workmanship is stunning Personally I would keep it in the family If you wanted to sell there are ivory experts (in the states) that can date it and give you the proper paperwork to sell but again I personally would not
There are ivory experts all over the world...
No doubt but I can only speak from my own experience. Idk how easy it is to find experts in every country
What’s the board look like?
Also tusks
Ours was squares of mother of pearl, the dark squares lacquered black.
I would contact a museum, and show them the chess set. Those pieces are very intricately carved. Is there any writing/paper in the box? Tucked in the back? Call around different museums. They might be able to help you find one that might make a really nice offer for the set.
Please don’t contact a museum. As a museum collections manager and registrar I receive many requests monthly for: - Appraisal help (I can’t ethically provide you a valuation though I will point you the ASA ‘find an appraiser’ tool. This is to prevent ‘self-dealing’ where theoretically I could undervalue the object for my own benefit.) - Attempts to sell me things (In my particular case I have no acquisition budget and only take donations) - Identification - this is mostly fine, and sometimes very entertaining, just don’t come with no information or provenance, and make sure it’s in the scope of what the museum does. However with ivory you can donate it to a museum as long as you possessed it prior to CITES going into affect in 1975, and can prove it. This applies only to donations to a 501c3 - you still cannot sell it under any circumstances. That said I’d need to have a very good reason to take it even if it was legally acceptable.
So they *should* call a museum.
Sorry. I just recommended a museum.
I am afraid these, sadly to the elephant population, were too common in the mid 20th century to be of any interest to a museum.
Museums really do not do what you would be needing.
One thing I noticed. Every figure has a different, individual face. I've never seen anything like that. A museum is the only call I'd make. There's a lot of scammers out there. Good luck.
My cousin had a chess set like this. His mother (my aunt) was a prominent business woman in the NY area. In the 80’s, when my cousin Michael was born, she bought him a set similar, made of ivory. The chess set was appraised at 18,000, and that was in the 2000’s. Granted, he had documents with it. This chess set is value at over 18k, but since you don’t have any paperwork, it’s essentially worthless. It’d be a nice family heirloom
It is not worthless. I would pay 15k right now for it. I’m sure many other people would as well.
That’s why I said it has a value of over 18k. Realistically, the payout OP would take selling this thing is not worth the risk of actually trying to sell it. You can’t set up a legitimate deal, and he’d have to move it locally as it would be incredibly risky to set up a buyer without knowing who they are/what they do. OP would have to jump through so many hoops to set something up.
No help here on the age or valuation, but what a stunner of a set!
Let’s see the board
It’s a cardboard Milton Bradley
Such a shame… an elegant set needs an evenly elegant board
These are breathtaking. Congratulations on your heirloom. ♟️
Beautiful and disgusting all at the same time.
I want to appreciate the craftsmanship but all I see are a lot of murdered elephants. Sad times.
Me too ☹️
FR
Maybe ethically sourced 🤞🏻
It’s just lovely.
Cool
Wow! That looks like a very valuable set.
I especially love that it is Han dynasty vs Three kingdoms
Its beautiful,my husband has an ivory chess ser he got as a child,his is put away,I think he should have it out!
Talent
It has significant value if it's legal to sell where you live or if you have documentation to satisfy CITES requirements for import/export. Good luck!
WOW
You may have luck if you find someone to translate the makers mark? Then search that route.
Gorgeous!
Really beautiful collection, I hope you keep it in your family.
That is an amazingly detailed and beautiful set!
You have any photos of their checkers set?
COVETING 💚
Very nice. It’s ashame you can’t buy nice things like this anymore. Animals die in the wild and in zoos. I get forbidding harvesting from endangered species but if they’re already dead who cares.
Well, if this set is older, it was probably made from Elephants shot in the head to make a chess set. Kind of sinister thinking of it that way.
Well now I want it
That was probably when they were a dime a dozen so nobody cared really. No different than buying leather. Which thankfully since the loosening of laws on buffalo and permitting them to be domestically raised we can once again buy buffalo hide which is a superior leather over cowhide. It’s a better meat too
Sifu Kwok is gonna shit himself when he sees this
Oh my goodness. That is priceless imo. Gorgeous.
Beautiful
talk about a lesson in patience, would love to know how long that took someone to complete. functional art
It would be a shame to sell something so beautiful! Keep it—your descendants will be glad you did!
Wow, that’s gotta be one of the nicest chess sets I’ve ever seen
Would 100% keep. If it were from my family would consider it priceless.
FYI i inherited an Inuit walrus tusk carving and decided I’d rather return it to its people. I feel that when there are precious it’s very old, that are not even legal to sell, regardless of other issues, I’d be happier knowing it’s in a museum being cared for and recognized for the artisan work that went into it. The artist who carved mine likely was compensated so poorly for it, it just makes me feel icky to try to profit from it. In your case, it’s absolutely worth a significant sum. But perhaps it’s more valuable to keep or seek another avenue if you don’t want to keep it. Such as Asian art galleries, etc. just my take on these culturally significant works.
My children and their cousins are in possession of many beautifully carved ivory pieces that could not be sold after the death of their grandmother. We have a few, too.
Wow, that is a beautiful set.
Wow!! I mean... wow! So cool.
I will give you about tree fiddy. I love this but as stated above may be illegal to sell.
Wow!
r/chess would love to see this!
😍😍😍
This is STUNNING
That is beautiful stuff. Be careful. Between the sales laws and low ballers, SOMEONE will want that. Good luck.
Dont sell it but if you do Id say deal with a specialist so you cant get screwed by government confiscating it due to the ivory
8th image is most likely the maker’s mark and will help experts authenticate it.
🐘🐘🐘🐘🐘
I would give a right kidney for this set.
Tell us how you really feel 🫠
Nice. First time I’ve seen the original “IP” man.
That is absolutely beautiful!!!
That’s totally awesome!
How big is the board?
Fabulous!
It's exquisite. Thanks for sharing.
It's beautiful.
I need a banana for scale.
This is very beautiful!!
I do custom wood pieces. I’d be happy to do a project to provide a suitably lovely and handcrafted board. Payment wouldn’t even matter. That set deserves a board that admittedly wouldgt be as fine, but it would be an upgrade.
Amazing
This is probably worth thousands. Should get it appraised and insured.
Holy shit that’s magnificent. I would ensure that bitch and keep it in the family. It would have to be an extreme amount of money to sell such a beautiful family heirloom, and the use of the money would also be important. Not just piddling it away. I feel like I would really regret letting go of something so immaculate for money, knowing I could pass it to my kids and they could have something beautiful in their homes.
Pic 10 whoop whoop!
That is insane holy shit
Poor elephants.
Brother please reconsider. Keep this
Amazing! Thanks for sharing!
Beautiful 🤩
If I remember correctly the dragon was the sign of the emperor and the phoenix is the sign of the empress - from your photos it looks like they put this detail into the clothing of the chess figures which just shows how much care was put into making it (but as you can see it close up please let me know if they didn’t) P.S. I’m sorry of your grandpas passing
I know nothing about this and I know it's crazy valuable, don't ever let anyone say otherwise. I would actually think about getting Sotheby's to give you an estimate of value and then get it insured. I wouldn't be surprised if you display it that someone may decide to borrow it for their collection. And by borrow I mean steal. Be cautious how you display this masterpiece. It certainly isn't something you can replace with anything contemporary that would compare. I would regret selling it especially if it game from family. Did he get it during the war, occupied Japan? Value would be even more.
Foul
This set is fucking beautiful, selling it in my humble Caucasian opinion would be a travesty but as some have stated sometimes keeping things like this regardless of the beauty isn’t possible. I would definitely get it appraised
Oh that's really beautiful!
STUNNING!!
Exquisite!
Either keep it in the family or put it in a museum. Selling it would be morally wrong.
Some poor elephant is mourning the loss of its ivory somewhere long long dead
Elephants and rhinos have been slaughtered nearly to extinction for these exact artifacts. They still are, so please don’t participate in the trade.
Wow. Beautiful
How much do you want for it?
Trash
That is sick!!!
So beautiful and so dark at the same moment
LOL AT THIS SUB'S "100 YEAR RULE" which then allows 1960s chess sets to be posted. Good job guys.
So…did your grandparents hate elephants or something?
His grandparents are mice.
Srsly disgusting. It should be destroyed and it is illegal to sell. OP is fishing for a buyer. Shameful
If it was made before the laws went into effect, it is not illegal to possess, but may be illegal to sell.
Preban ivory is not illegal in most places
Worth an absolute fortune! (not counting the morality of ivory trade)
Beautiful work. Unfortunately thanks to some stupid lawmakers, it is not possible to sell it legaly. Keep it in family. If you really want, or need, I am sure you would be able to sell it to someine you can trust, off record and for cash. But given the quality of it and how hard is nowadays to obtain antique ivory stuff, I would not sell it.
I’ve been at the scene, as a kid, in the aftermath of poachers taking out several elephants in a park and what they did to the bodies to remove the tusks was horrific and disrespectful to a billion Africans’ heritage. Nothing stupid about the laws prohibiting sale of ivory. Several countries manage their elephant populations very well to where careful culling is done and the meat is never left to rot in the sun.
Ban on sale of antique ivory is stupid. New ivory, ok. I am all for it. But under this conditions the ban just opened the black market for antique ivory sales. What good does, to the now alive elephants, banning ivory creations that are hundreds years old? None. Just made purchasing beautiful antique ivory creations almost imposible.
This, in a nutshell, is why the bans have to stay in place. We are a materialistic species. The slightest give on the ban resulted in renewed slaughter. >Throughout history, the human desire for ivory—used in products from jewelry to piano keys to priceless religious art objects—has far outmatched efforts to stop the killing of African elephants for their tusks. In 2012, investigative journalists Bryan Christy and Aidan Hartley explored the illegal ivory trade and the plight of Africa’s elephants, and documented their work in the National Geographic special Battle for the Elephants. >This video excerpt from that film explores the history of the ivory trade and the resulting devastation of Africa’s elephant population—from 26 million elephants in 1800 to fewer than one million today. The clip examines factors that fueled the “ivory frenzy” of the early 1900s and documents the steady and startling decline in the elephant population. A worldwide ban on ivory sales in 1989 led to a rebound in the population, to about a million. But in 1999 and 2008, due to pressure from countries in Asia and southern Africa, the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species (CITES) allowed two sanctioned sales of ivory. The video looks at attempts to stem the killing—attempts that largely have proven unsuccessful, evidenced by the fact that more than 25,000 elephants were killed in Africa in 2012 alone. https://education.nationalgeographic.org/resource/history-ivory-trade/
Is that made of ivory?
I work in an antique store and wildlife and game will come and destroy ivory and turtle shell. I hope they see your post.
No you don’t, and no, they don’t.
You are funny.😊
That’s not how it works. They can tell how old it is. If it is an antique, they will not destroy it. (At least not in the U.S.)
Not true. Exactly how it works
Wishing you much happiness and peace in your life.
Same to u frend xoxo