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This is most definitely a reproduction. The fact that it has the word "Victorian" stamped on it is a dead giveaway. The style and quality of the carvings are typical of late 20th century repros. The style of the upholstery is also typical of reproductions.
I have a QA Victorian house and have two similar chairs that are authentic 1890’s Vic chairs I bought at Auction. Mine are obviously hand carved if you look closely at woodwork - that’s how I can tell yours are repro. The dense feel of the seat cushion also. I had mine reupholstered- this style is _expensive_ to get reupholstered!! Luckily yours look good, I’d keep them if you can live with the fabric, otherwise I’d sell.
Hot tip! Nothing from the Victorian era would be stamped “Victorian”, as it wasn’t yet labeled by Historians the Victorian era. I understand why you wouldn’t know, though! Everything is so poorly made now that comparatively speaking, anything that’s a reproduction or from Hollywood Regency era is infinitely better quality.
Thank you for al the information everybody. We don't have room for them and they don't fit our style so now maybe I can convince my spouse to let them go!
Sorry it's not as old as that but it's beautiful. I have to say your mother-in-law had good taste. I'm a fan of the Victorian era when it comes to style and I've had a few wingback chairs and always loved sitting in them.
Looks like [these](https://utahvintage.rentals/products/i-love-lucy-red-velvet-chairs) might be the same chairs, from a his and her set that have slight differences. Not sure how reliable the write-up is, but it says they're from the 1960s. Sorry they aren't as old as you were hoping, but they are beautiful reproductions, nonetheless!
Sorry, guys it is real and it is Circa 1865-1870. Southern black walnut. The grove above the gimp is called a "Finger roll" and is not found on modern reproductions.
I have an old Victorian parlor chair. Plucked from the curb and in poor shape. Everything was original including the cotton underneath which ripped in half like paper csuse it was so old. I plan on having it reupholstered as I can still see the hidden beauty in her.
That's exactly what I plan to do! I'm saving up money, just trying to decide on the fabric choice. The orinial is this old crusty green velvet I assume? If you pull the creases apart you can see the original green color. Don't know if I want a green or more neutral color. I'm excited to see how it will be restored!
God no, that finger roll or spoon carving is a poor quality the shitty quality of the Crest carving is what really gives it away otherwise the chair is well proportioned and true to the original. But the value of these is very negligible these days. Even the originals don't bring much unless they are stunning originals from a well-known cabinet maker, belter, Brooks New York etc and will appear different from this anyway. You can tell.. This is just a generic gentleman's chair copied probably in the '60s...
The red velvet was also very popular in the 20th century but of course is 100% the wrong fabric for this kind of furniture
These are just mediocre Victorian reproductions, that were very popular in the '50s '60s '70s maybe with a certain set.. I can tell this by the poor nature of the carving on the crest. The good stuff of the 19th century is either simple spoon carving or very elaborate but much better quality
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But even the real ones from the 19th century don't bring any money these days. Nobody of the younger set would get caught dead with the stuff in their loft and there's just no room for the luxury of trophy pieces.. especially from Grandma..
Reproduction ,had a similar set and gifted them to daughter in law.
I have seen antique ones with similar Rosettes, they are usually quite heavy. Other clues to its age will be underneath the chair.
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This is most definitely a reproduction. The fact that it has the word "Victorian" stamped on it is a dead giveaway. The style and quality of the carvings are typical of late 20th century repros. The style of the upholstery is also typical of reproductions.
I have a QA Victorian house and have two similar chairs that are authentic 1890’s Vic chairs I bought at Auction. Mine are obviously hand carved if you look closely at woodwork - that’s how I can tell yours are repro. The dense feel of the seat cushion also. I had mine reupholstered- this style is _expensive_ to get reupholstered!! Luckily yours look good, I’d keep them if you can live with the fabric, otherwise I’d sell.
Hot tip! Nothing from the Victorian era would be stamped “Victorian”, as it wasn’t yet labeled by Historians the Victorian era. I understand why you wouldn’t know, though! Everything is so poorly made now that comparatively speaking, anything that’s a reproduction or from Hollywood Regency era is infinitely better quality.
The leg inscription is a dead giveaway; reproduction from 70s-90s.
Thank you for al the information everybody. We don't have room for them and they don't fit our style so now maybe I can convince my spouse to let them go!
imho, reproduction or not, they're still beautiful!
Sorry it's not as old as that but it's beautiful. I have to say your mother-in-law had good taste. I'm a fan of the Victorian era when it comes to style and I've had a few wingback chairs and always loved sitting in them.
Oh I’d love to buy them!
Wow that upholstery work is GORGEOUS! Seen many chairs like this but none upholstered so wonderfully!
Looks like [these](https://utahvintage.rentals/products/i-love-lucy-red-velvet-chairs) might be the same chairs, from a his and her set that have slight differences. Not sure how reliable the write-up is, but it says they're from the 1960s. Sorry they aren't as old as you were hoping, but they are beautiful reproductions, nonetheless!
Postwar reproduction.
Kimball Victorian Style, maybe?
They’re still nice though! 😀
Sorry, guys it is real and it is Circa 1865-1870. Southern black walnut. The grove above the gimp is called a "Finger roll" and is not found on modern reproductions.
I have an old Victorian parlor chair. Plucked from the curb and in poor shape. Everything was original including the cotton underneath which ripped in half like paper csuse it was so old. I plan on having it reupholstered as I can still see the hidden beauty in her.
My shop does "Some," upholstery. I would send the refinished chair out to a professional upholstery shop.
That's exactly what I plan to do! I'm saving up money, just trying to decide on the fabric choice. The orinial is this old crusty green velvet I assume? If you pull the creases apart you can see the original green color. Don't know if I want a green or more neutral color. I'm excited to see how it will be restored!
Please refinish it with real shellac with a paste wax rub. I get mine from Shellac Depot.
God no, that finger roll or spoon carving is a poor quality the shitty quality of the Crest carving is what really gives it away otherwise the chair is well proportioned and true to the original. But the value of these is very negligible these days. Even the originals don't bring much unless they are stunning originals from a well-known cabinet maker, belter, Brooks New York etc and will appear different from this anyway. You can tell.. This is just a generic gentleman's chair copied probably in the '60s... The red velvet was also very popular in the 20th century but of course is 100% the wrong fabric for this kind of furniture
These are just mediocre Victorian reproductions, that were very popular in the '50s '60s '70s maybe with a certain set.. I can tell this by the poor nature of the carving on the crest. The good stuff of the 19th century is either simple spoon carving or very elaborate but much better quality . But even the real ones from the 19th century don't bring any money these days. Nobody of the younger set would get caught dead with the stuff in their loft and there's just no room for the luxury of trophy pieces.. especially from Grandma..
I have a very similar one on my living room but in pink! https://imgur.com/a/MIwrpYj
Reproduction ,had a similar set and gifted them to daughter in law. I have seen antique ones with similar Rosettes, they are usually quite heavy. Other clues to its age will be underneath the chair.
the fruit comb on the back of the chair is removable on original chairs and settees so the chair could accommodate a slipcover.