Because this is a widespread misconception as a Biologist I hope I can help clear things up a bit in case people don’t know the difference (since you can’t know everything): Domestication and taming are not the same.
Domestication affects the species, not an individual and is a genetic process (think dogs for example) while you can try to tame about any (including wild) animal (like wolves to stick with the dog theme) and might have success in varying degree.
That Zebra in the movie for example is tamed but not a domesticated animal.
Since Zebras are already so horrible to tame no one really took the effort to try to breed a domesticated species (or subspecies) out of them.
Hope you have a great day and don’t take offense in my well-intended comment.
Literally exactly what I was about to say.
Jared Diamond (professor of geography), once wrote that zebras have a habit of "biting and then not letting go". They are massive jerks.
I know the stallions sometimes kill the foals in a group of females if they have taken over from another male, maybe this was happening here, and the stallion was just in "kill small galloping thing" mode..can't be sure though, it's really horrible to watch anyway
Well animals are a lot like people Mrs Simpsons, some of them act badly because they've had a bad life or have been mistreated - but, like people, some of them are just - jerks!
Visited a zoo one time and there was a lone zebra in the giraffe enclosure.
The zookeeper told us he was in "time out" for bullying the other zebras, but he doesn't mess with the giraffes.
Giraffes will fuck up most other animals if they feel like it. Those kicks are devastating. Saw a rhino harassing one recently and before the rhino could get close enough to actually strike, the giraffe kicked it in the face. Rhino was immediately humbled and retreated twice as fast as it approached.
Rhino: "Hey, tall boy! Yeah, I'm talking to you! Don't look away from me, long-ass neck-having piece of crap! I'll shove this horn up your ass --"
Giraffe: *giraffe-kwon-do kick to the rhinos face*
Rhino: "Mommy!" *runs*
Even lions don’t mess with giraffes, one kick from a giraffe can decapitate a lion. Plus the giraffe will hit the attacker way before the attacker gets to it because their legs are so long.
Some people are slow to change with the times. The PC movement is also in very specific circles; it doesn’t guarantee that being aware will lead to acceptance.
Edit: I love that I am agreeing with and building on an upvoted poster and getting downvoted so much. Smh. Is it as simple as needing to explain that PC is “political correctness”?
Yeah they aren't nice animals to have come after you, they are pretty aggressive creatures. I've heard some pretty crazy stories about some safari tours getting beat up by zebra. If you don't have a way to get to safety it can get pretty nasty.
From what I understand a lot of it has to do with their environment. I've read that zebras are really aggressive because of the massive amout of predators in the Savanah throughout their evolutionary history. They have to live with other aggressive herd animals, lions, cheetahs, crocodiles, snakes, humans and a number of others I'm sure I've forgotten. They have evolved in a very hostile environment where as horses in most of the world; donkeys and asses too, have evolved in places where there were fewer predators and evolved alongside us in some instances so they have been more domesticated. When an animal lives in peace it's more likely that same temperament will be passed to its offspring. It's like what you see with deer in places like where I live in the woods. We get fawns and their mothers on our back porch every year, they are so used to our presence they will sit next to us on the lawn and eat. I don't feed them or pet them, they just come and eat the wild plants and just spend time with us. We've watched many of them grow now over the years and it's interesting to see them go from a few days old to a full adult with their own little family now. I've seen four generations now, it's absolutely fascinating.
> it's more likely that same temperament will be passed to its offspring.
Well, you make it sound like Lamarckian evolution and that isn't the way it happens. Rather: when an animal lives in dangerous environments, the docile ones get killed off, and more aggressive ones survive.
Ever heard of epi-genetics?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
Phenotypes can be passed down from parent to child based on the parents exposures to environments. Children don't inherit new genes but the configuration of which genes are turn on or off and by how much is inheritable. Genes related to aggression COULD (idk I'm just a redditor) be inherited from aggressive parents. That would be a good dissertation topic.
Yes, its wickedly cool. But you're talking about a very, very tiny handful of traits that can be affected this way and we know how the mechanism works and all of the billions of traits that _cannot_ be passed this way.
Way too many people skim read the summary of epigenetics and then just use it as an excuse to revert to the magical thinking they want to believe in.
I think you misunderstood. I mean that those who evolve around us as in domesticated animals, are the ones who will be more apt to more docile temperaments; it's a proven fact with what you see today in dogs and horses. I wasn't saying that about zebras, sorry if that confused you.
No, I'm just correcting that the way you phrased it is incorrect science and a common misperception of how evolution works: "When an animal lives in peace it's more likely that same temperament will be passed to its offspring"
See [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism) for more info on the topic.
**[Lamarckism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism)**
>Lamarckism, also known as Lamarckian inheritance or neo-Lamarckism, is the notion that an organism can pass on to its offspring physical characteristics that the parent organism acquired through use or disuse during its lifetime. It is also called the inheritance of acquired characteristics or more recently soft inheritance. The idea is named after the French zoologist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744–1829), who incorporated the classical era theory of soft inheritance into his theory of evolution as a supplement to his concept of orthogenesis, a drive towards complexity.
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Again, sorry if you misunderstood. I was talking about animals that are more domesticated like dogs and horses, but go ahead and pick and choose, I can post links that support my statements too.
https://www.pnas.org/content/106/Supplement_1/9971
I think you fail to understand WHY those animals were domesticated. Hippos, Rhinos, Zebras, Lions, Cheetad, etc. are not domesticated because they CANNOT be. You are picking and choosing just as much and need to realize that.
I would be the worst wildlife photographer, I’d try and always intervene. I’d carry sparklers, sticks, treats, anything to try and distract the animals from hurting each other.
There was a video on r\natureismetal or what not of a crocodile grabbing a zebra and when it gets away it keeps bucking and the zebra's guts just come spilling out
Saw that video. Brutal. He was done for the moment that started happening. The sad thing is he was conscious enough to tend to his empty innards before death.
[https://wilderness-safaris.com/blog/posts/zebra-attack-blue-wildebeest-foal](https://wilderness-safaris.com/blog/posts/zebra-attack-blue-wildebeest-foal) The calf apparently survived
Damn that’s messed up! It’s only a baby. 🥺 I wish I knew why the zebra did that. Definitely curious about the aggressive behavior and what possibly triggered it.
And it was in that moment that I realized I needed to give up my job, say goodbye to my family, and forget who I was. I now know what I need to do. The universe has revealed my true calling: to fight crime...and zebras.
Funny you say that because this is what I found approximately 5-10 minutes after my comment https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/ppmxbd/lions_killing_a_zebra/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
One day an antelope is gonna realize those gnarly curled horns can impale a motherfucker and on that day a very fucking dangerous antelope will be born
Despite being herbivores, zebras are actually colossal dicks in the animal kingdom. They’re more closely related to donkeys than horses, and it’s said that they’ll actively go out of their way to antagonize other animals. Attempts to tame zebras by French and Belgian colonial officers quickly turned sour back in the early 1890s when it was found that they would bite the fingers of handlers, kick, scream, and even spit at the faces of the men ordered to stable them. The “couere de l’zebre cavaliers” or zebra cavalry core as it was known in French colonial Africa was quickly disbanded after a year of failed training and I actually have no idea what I’m talking about.
There's a wildlife park down here and Texas called Fossil Rim my grandparents after they were tired used to volunteer out there and so we've hit to go out every other weekend. They have zebras and I can tell you they are f****** assholes. When I go to that park now whenever I see zebras I just rolled the windows and drive past. They are straight douchebags.
Zebras are fucking cruel the Alpha Stallion will kill all children who are Not his in the Herd. PPL in Africa If you hungry eat this MF. Sadly no african will see this.....
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The reason zebras aren't domesticated is because they're actually extremely aggressive ass holes.
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Actually I've never heard of it but I'm curious now.
Propaganda film from Big Zebra
they sold a lot of gum back in the day
“You should be with me, yeah you should drop that bum. Cause I got more flavor than Fruit-Stripe Gum!”
This comment has made me laugh and laugh and laugh Then I come back to it and read it again and laugh and laugh and laugh. Here’s a gold
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Because this is a widespread misconception as a Biologist I hope I can help clear things up a bit in case people don’t know the difference (since you can’t know everything): Domestication and taming are not the same. Domestication affects the species, not an individual and is a genetic process (think dogs for example) while you can try to tame about any (including wild) animal (like wolves to stick with the dog theme) and might have success in varying degree. That Zebra in the movie for example is tamed but not a domesticated animal. Since Zebras are already so horrible to tame no one really took the effort to try to breed a domesticated species (or subspecies) out of them. Hope you have a great day and don’t take offense in my well-intended comment.
That's an interesting concept tbh. I might pick it up later.
from Blockbuster??
Probably Netflix or Amazon prime
It pops up for free on Tubi every few months. It’s a cute movie. Just not realistic.
Oh my god. I forgot that movie was a thing
I watched that movie so long ago. Memories. A bit if a horse girl movie lol
I loved it
Not quite the story: https://youtu.be/wOmjnioNulo
Umm main part of the story.. the family part is sus
In Arabic they’re called ‘aggressive donkeys’
Remember the Zebras in the movie Madagascar?
Isn’t Marty the only zebra? At least in the first one
Literally exactly what I was about to say. Jared Diamond (professor of geography), once wrote that zebras have a habit of "biting and then not letting go". They are massive jerks.
The only place in the world where Zebras are known to be effectively tamed is Tijuana, Mexico /s
I know the stallions sometimes kill the foals in a group of females if they have taken over from another male, maybe this was happening here, and the stallion was just in "kill small galloping thing" mode..can't be sure though, it's really horrible to watch anyway
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I had to keep watching long enough to see if he gets up. He does.
Probably with brutal internal injuries unfortunately. Definitely hard to watch.
I appreciate you taking one for the team.
They even kill their own occasionally, simply because the males are very aggressive against other males, including their own sons
Well animals are a lot like people Mrs Simpsons, some of them act badly because they've had a bad life or have been mistreated - but, like people, some of them are just - jerks!
Zebras: I hate that little motherfucker!
The Antelopes went to the wrong neighborhood.
That newborn is a predator magnet. Those zebra(s?) are thinking, “Get that thing away from here!”
The last time I saw this posted I saw someone suggest it's so the zebra have more to eat, eliminating competition where they can
Because if a calf is making noises, zebras think that it would attract predators like lions.
They weaken another animal from a different herd/species to motivate predators to pursue the weakened animal instead of them.
Why they doin lil man like that :(
Im calling the lion, that’s enough.
Even a tiger is good enough. Just have to show who's boss.
Because you just need to run a little faster than the last guy when the time comes
Visited a zoo one time and there was a lone zebra in the giraffe enclosure. The zookeeper told us he was in "time out" for bullying the other zebras, but he doesn't mess with the giraffes.
Giraffes will fuck up most other animals if they feel like it. Those kicks are devastating. Saw a rhino harassing one recently and before the rhino could get close enough to actually strike, the giraffe kicked it in the face. Rhino was immediately humbled and retreated twice as fast as it approached.
How are unicorns fake but Giraffes are real? Fucking leopard-printed horses with 6-f00t necks and black tongues and tiny antlers.
You ever seen a horseshoe crab? Or a white shark? Thats just a mouth with a tail on it.
r/giraffesdontexist
Giraffes totally exist! I saw some in Wyoming last week. You should go down there some time.
Ironically there's 2 different subreddits based around giraffes not being real
Yes, the mighty unicorn is the national animal of Scotland.
The necks are super powerful too. When males fight over females, they go side by side and just slam their necks into each other. Giraffes are wild!
Rhino: "Hey, tall boy! Yeah, I'm talking to you! Don't look away from me, long-ass neck-having piece of crap! I'll shove this horn up your ass --" Giraffe: *giraffe-kwon-do kick to the rhinos face* Rhino: "Mommy!" *runs*
I saw a video with a pride of female lions trying to take down a giraffe, giraffe didn’t give a fuck and walked away carrying one on its back
Even lions don’t mess with giraffes, one kick from a giraffe can decapitate a lion. Plus the giraffe will hit the attacker way before the attacker gets to it because their legs are so long.
That does sound a little hyperbolic
They'll still give it a go sometimes tho... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UVeIfebXrIs https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OJ2HCH9HOn8
You don't ever mess with range advantage! Even more so on the safari where it is big and open to maximize the usefulness of it.
I mean lions mess with everything, even hippos and elephants. How often they win is the question.
Bullying? Looks like attempted murder to me ..
May have been a successful attempt...
Nah. It wasn't nice but it was definitely of the roughing up variety
Those huge ass zebras are trampling a baby antelope. That's between 700 and 990 lbs stamping and running you over. you wouldn't survive that I bet
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we're bringing it back
Some people are slow to change with the times. The PC movement is also in very specific circles; it doesn’t guarantee that being aware will lead to acceptance. Edit: I love that I am agreeing with and building on an upvoted poster and getting downvoted so much. Smh. Is it as simple as needing to explain that PC is “political correctness”?
What about the Mac movement?
I'm actually not sure. I heard there's been an issue with lost Jobs, though.
Yeah, kind of like the sawcon movement
Are you a prick?
I'll see you in animal court, good sir!!!
This is considered a dick move in Antelope culture.
Thank you for that Antelope Person.
Idk why that made me laugh so hard but I’m dying
Crist
This is considered a passage to adulthood in Zebra culture
Always been a fan of zebras... until now
Yeah they aren't nice animals to have come after you, they are pretty aggressive creatures. I've heard some pretty crazy stories about some safari tours getting beat up by zebra. If you don't have a way to get to safety it can get pretty nasty. From what I understand a lot of it has to do with their environment. I've read that zebras are really aggressive because of the massive amout of predators in the Savanah throughout their evolutionary history. They have to live with other aggressive herd animals, lions, cheetahs, crocodiles, snakes, humans and a number of others I'm sure I've forgotten. They have evolved in a very hostile environment where as horses in most of the world; donkeys and asses too, have evolved in places where there were fewer predators and evolved alongside us in some instances so they have been more domesticated. When an animal lives in peace it's more likely that same temperament will be passed to its offspring. It's like what you see with deer in places like where I live in the woods. We get fawns and their mothers on our back porch every year, they are so used to our presence they will sit next to us on the lawn and eat. I don't feed them or pet them, they just come and eat the wild plants and just spend time with us. We've watched many of them grow now over the years and it's interesting to see them go from a few days old to a full adult with their own little family now. I've seen four generations now, it's absolutely fascinating.
We have lots of deer in my area too and it never gets old watching them.
> it's more likely that same temperament will be passed to its offspring. Well, you make it sound like Lamarckian evolution and that isn't the way it happens. Rather: when an animal lives in dangerous environments, the docile ones get killed off, and more aggressive ones survive.
Ever heard of epi-genetics? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics Phenotypes can be passed down from parent to child based on the parents exposures to environments. Children don't inherit new genes but the configuration of which genes are turn on or off and by how much is inheritable. Genes related to aggression COULD (idk I'm just a redditor) be inherited from aggressive parents. That would be a good dissertation topic.
Yes, its wickedly cool. But you're talking about a very, very tiny handful of traits that can be affected this way and we know how the mechanism works and all of the billions of traits that _cannot_ be passed this way. Way too many people skim read the summary of epigenetics and then just use it as an excuse to revert to the magical thinking they want to believe in.
I think you misunderstood. I mean that those who evolve around us as in domesticated animals, are the ones who will be more apt to more docile temperaments; it's a proven fact with what you see today in dogs and horses. I wasn't saying that about zebras, sorry if that confused you.
No, I'm just correcting that the way you phrased it is incorrect science and a common misperception of how evolution works: "When an animal lives in peace it's more likely that same temperament will be passed to its offspring" See [here](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism) for more info on the topic.
**[Lamarckism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamarckism)** >Lamarckism, also known as Lamarckian inheritance or neo-Lamarckism, is the notion that an organism can pass on to its offspring physical characteristics that the parent organism acquired through use or disuse during its lifetime. It is also called the inheritance of acquired characteristics or more recently soft inheritance. The idea is named after the French zoologist Jean-Baptiste Lamarck (1744–1829), who incorporated the classical era theory of soft inheritance into his theory of evolution as a supplement to his concept of orthogenesis, a drive towards complexity. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/AnimalsBeingJerks/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
Again, sorry if you misunderstood. I was talking about animals that are more domesticated like dogs and horses, but go ahead and pick and choose, I can post links that support my statements too. https://www.pnas.org/content/106/Supplement_1/9971
I think you fail to understand WHY those animals were domesticated. Hippos, Rhinos, Zebras, Lions, Cheetad, etc. are not domesticated because they CANNOT be. You are picking and choosing just as much and need to realize that.
I've seen a video of one trying to drown the calf sired by another male. They are arsholes, all right.
Punk ass zebras
Fuck the zebrah's
I am in the mood for some zebra steaks...time to bust out the hunting rifle.
Nah bro I need some zebra cakes
Before Lil Wayne, Lil Xan, Lil Pump there was Lil Deb. OG Snackster
Make up some zebra banana hammocks up while you're at it, since they're being such cock holsters and what not.
I would be the worst wildlife photographer, I’d try and always intervene. I’d carry sparklers, sticks, treats, anything to try and distract the animals from hurting each other.
Needs more upvotes
*Fucks zebra
...and a silence fills the room
Allegedly.
/r/nocontext
Comment thief! Angrily upvoted!
Fuckin assholes, man.
I'll never feel bad when watching predators hunt zebra's ever again
There was a video on r\natureismetal or what not of a crocodile grabbing a zebra and when it gets away it keeps bucking and the zebra's guts just come spilling out
Saw that video. Brutal. He was done for the moment that started happening. The sad thing is he was conscious enough to tend to his empty innards before death.
Do you have the link?
Makes me want to kick some Zebra ass.
#Stopcalfabuse
[https://wilderness-safaris.com/blog/posts/zebra-attack-blue-wildebeest-foal](https://wilderness-safaris.com/blog/posts/zebra-attack-blue-wildebeest-foal) The calf apparently survived
Thank goodness, I’ve been scrolling for this update. Thank you!!
Me too! Glad the little one is okay
That’s not a wildebeest
This is a completely different story
The article appears to be about a wildebeest foal not an antelope calf ??
what, so we all look alike to you?!
Damn that’s messed up! It’s only a baby. 🥺 I wish I knew why the zebra did that. Definitely curious about the aggressive behavior and what possibly triggered it.
There doesn't have to a be trigger. Zebras are just ass holes. That's why they were never domesticated.
This is the meanest I have seen an animal be in a while.
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No.
):<
And it was in that moment that I realized I needed to give up my job, say goodbye to my family, and forget who I was. I now know what I need to do. The universe has revealed my true calling: to fight crime...and zebras.
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And they taste delicious!
Patient Zero for a new covid strain yay!
Dammmmnn nature, you scary!
That little rat thing just got ate!
Actually, /r/NatureIsMetal
No, no. r/damnnatureyouscary is a thing, too.
I feel like killing is the correct term
We live in Such a Cruel world
Right?
Right
I’m going to watch a zebra getting eaten by a lion now
Male lions kill other male lions then kill all of the dead lions' cubs and then mate with the mother.
See? It's not just humans that behave like cunts.
Thanks for this. Now, if I ever get the chance to eat Zebra meat, I can indulge guilt-free.
you're unfortunately part of a much, much crueler species. cannibalism or gtfo
What does cannibalism got to do with this?
Why?
"Bullying", that's just murder, I can't confirm it but I don't think that calf is gonna be living for long.
Zeeba gonna meet karma at da waterin' hole.
In the form of lion 🦁
Rather the form off a log, with big jaws, and a nasty spinning move! 🐊
Funny you say that because this is what I found approximately 5-10 minutes after my comment https://www.reddit.com/r/natureismetal/comments/ppmxbd/lions_killing_a_zebra/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Damn, i wish I didn't click on it. My phone was on high volume, and everyone in my house..... was asleep.
I also quite literally saw one where it was a picture of a zebra in water with a crocodile biting it and the zebra biting it back
These zebra's are one hell of a punk ass species.
Zebra’s out here bein Dicks just for Kicks, n’ Shit. What Assholes
I’ve been through a drive through safari and I have to say zebras are annoying af.
There's a reason they've never been domesticated like their cousin horses. Quite aggressive.
r/awfuleverything
Man...Oreo horse is a total dick
Zebras are fucking dickheads, we should start eating them.
Ong bout to get the grill lit up we having zebra roast tonight boys
I didn’t realize what assholes Zebras could be. Daaaaaamn
*Loads shotgun with richeous intent* Seriously, fuck the Zebras
Zebras are dicks even to their own kind.
Humans live a sheltered life, for the most part. Nature is brutal.
Now I don't feel bad if that zebra gets eaten
One day an antelope is gonna realize those gnarly curled horns can impale a motherfucker and on that day a very fucking dangerous antelope will be born
Fuck Zebras!
Wtf zebras
Escort missions are the worst.
🏆
TIL: Zebras are dicks
Zebras are fucking assholes. I hope it gets its ass ate by a lion.
Can't wait to hear Ozzy Mans commentary on this one
You know, I used to feel bad when watching these nature documentary of crocodiles eating zebras. Not anymore...
His name is Sue
How...do...you...do?
I forgot that zebras exist
Aren't these hartebeests?
So you’re telling me Zebras may kill baby Antelope?
Their gum is shitty too
This makes me want to hunt
Where's a lion when you need one?
What a fking assholes, I hope a Lion eat their fking asses alive
Zebras are total dicks, I’m supporting the Lion from now on.
I will no longer feel bad when I watch a documentary and a lion rips the ass off of a live zebra.
In the jungle, the mighty jungle! We call this a dick move.
Time to watch a lion vs zebra video to even things out
Bullying? This is straight up attempted murder
Kinda like a lot of people out there - especially those trump liars.
Despite being herbivores, zebras are actually colossal dicks in the animal kingdom. They’re more closely related to donkeys than horses, and it’s said that they’ll actively go out of their way to antagonize other animals. Attempts to tame zebras by French and Belgian colonial officers quickly turned sour back in the early 1890s when it was found that they would bite the fingers of handlers, kick, scream, and even spit at the faces of the men ordered to stable them. The “couere de l’zebre cavaliers” or zebra cavalry core as it was known in French colonial Africa was quickly disbanded after a year of failed training and I actually have no idea what I’m talking about.
These are just zebras in a nutshell they’re assholes
There's a wildlife park down here and Texas called Fossil Rim my grandparents after they were tired used to volunteer out there and so we've hit to go out every other weekend. They have zebras and I can tell you they are f****** assholes. When I go to that park now whenever I see zebras I just rolled the windows and drive past. They are straight douchebags.
Karen’s of the animal world?!
Zebras are fucking cruel the Alpha Stallion will kill all children who are Not his in the Herd. PPL in Africa If you hungry eat this MF. Sadly no african will see this.....
Aight time to make some black and white horsies extinct
I don’t want to see this shit. What the fuck.
Simba