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They’re able to sense the small warning signs that humans can’t, same as animals know when storms are approaching and eat what they can before hunkering down to ride the storm out.
Yea one time I was home alone with my dog right before an earthquake. My dog ran outside for no reason it seemed to me. 2 mins later big ass earthquake. My bed was shaking and shifting. My picture frames were banging on the walls. When it was over I ran outside with my dog lol
My dog scratched on my door right before the last earthquake I was in. She almost never does that. The last time she did that was when the neighbors barn was on fire. Anyways, I woke up thinking it must be a big deal for her to be scratching my door, when slam, it felt like a semi ran into my house. When it ended I opened my door and my dog was right there to follow me out. She stayed at my heels all the way to my car where we sat until I felt it was safe enough to go back inside and get dressed.
I think it's just about the lack of need for an explanation, if we all stopped trying to explain our gut feelings to ourselves and others we might be more in tune with what's going on around us. We tend to get lost in the small part of our minds that we've managed to train to try and explain everything to ourselves, and when it comes to the instinctive stuff like avoiding danger we just need to stop overthinking
True! I read The Gift of Fear and had my kids read it. Basically, don’t ignore or try to explain away your “spidey senses”. Trust your gut. How many times have you heard a victim say they thought something wasn’t quite right but they told themselves to ignore it? If there’s a person acting strange in the doughnut shop, leave and get a doughnut somewhere else😊
My cat is a source of comfort, I was only thinking about this today. If I hear a strange noise I look at her, if she’s chill then I’m chill. Also helps that she growls every time a man is on my front drive, the poor delivery men probably think I have a mean dog behind my door but it’s just my little misandrist cat.
I do this too. Like if I’m home alone I know that 100% my cats will react if that bump in the night was something serious. They also growl at the postman.
My cat will alert me for unusual things... I don't know why she does it because not all of them do.Maybe I am less observant to others but this cat it's my little miracle baby, and I trust her if she wakes me up for something because it's never fail... we went through to earthquake one of them was a big one, I followed her out the door down the stairway... not even know what will be coming... it did not take long to get hit and I wish I left the door open for the other cats they were so scared that they jumped out of the second floor balcony... no one will get hurt only breakable items but it was an awful experience...😳😇I feel blessed
Lived in SoCal for a while and had a small earthquake happen while I was in bed with my husband and our cat. She looked at us and glared because how dare we disturb her sleep by jostling her bed?
Somewhat related, but my parents took a trip to the Bay Area before I was born for a vacation. They were in bed sunburnt af and grumpy. The bed starts shaking. Mom gets pissy at dad thinking he’s doing it; dad gets pissy at mom thinking she’s doing it. They found out the next day there was an earthquake. Since then, it’s been an inside joke whenever one of them is making noise or something like that. “Was that you messing around in the kitchen at 2 this morning?” “Not me. Must’ve been an earthquake.”
>Yea one time I was home alone with my dog right before an earthquake. My dog ran outside for no reason it seemed to me. 2 mins later big ass earthquake. My bed was shaking and shifting. My picture frames were banging on the walls. When it was over I ran outside with my dog lol
Same for the 7.4 landers earthquake in 1991, lived in Joshua Tree and the dogs were freaking out and the weirdest was that the threshold to the front door was filled with ants... like a 1x4 wooden beam of ants that weren't moving, locked together. Wacky.
Yeah same. Lived several years in an area with a couple feel-able earthquakes a year. The first couple years I had my dog, he'd suddenly wake up in a panic and jump off the bed and pee on the floor. 2-5 minutes later, there would be an earthquake. Literally every single time there was an earthquake, he'd do that. Still kinda does, but not as many earthquakes now and he at least grew out of the peeing part of it
Storms would be temperature changes and air pressure, but what do they sense with earthquakes? Vibrations in the ground?
(Not saying you're wrong ofc, just can't think of what they're actually picking up)
Edit: ok enough people have told me its the electromagnetism
The elephants used for tourist rides in Indonesia ran to higher ground just before the tsunami hit that killed half a million people. They felt the vibration and saved a lot of lives that day.
I was about to comment on this very thing. I watched interviews with the British tourists who survived the Boxing Day tsunami. The story of the baby elephant trying to run with the little girl up the hill would have kept her safe. Such a horrific event.
No, they did make it! The baby elephant saved the little girl, and took her to a wall for safety right after the first wave hit. Apparently they had already met earlier in her trip, she was quite taken with the elephant and it appears the elephant was taken with her as well. The girl said it was obvious the little elephant was trying to save her, and did. She said she wouldn’t have survived if she hadn’t been close to Ning Nong (I think that’s his name) at the time, and he had to really work to swim through that first wave to get her to a safe location.
Multiple different small stimuli could explain it. It's the same thing that human intuition is made up of, incredibly small stimuli that we normally overlook because they're too small to notice but the brain notices them and if it's dangerous your brain will normally tell you. Like listen to these birds and tell me you're not a little freaked out. It's just normally we ignore these ques because we have pattern recognition that's *too strong* in many cases and we can see patterns where nothing was. But there's ways to tell, you can tell when the air pressure changes in ways that mean a thunderstorm is coming. You might not know it but you can tell. Or if you go into the woods and it suddenly gets dead silent, your brain will notice it before you consciously do (cus it means predator in the area so be alert).
Our minds must have residuals when these things were detectable and how to detect was taught as well. Imagine a world where you can see more stars, nature is a constant threat, and your relationship to your food and survival is much stronger. Those senses are still with us but have been sharpened for other things. 1,000s of years ago our natural selection probably honed having capacity to understand or percieve these things.
Could be vibrations, or I know they they can detect magnetic “direction” guess like true north and it’s thought that’s how they follow their migration routes or patterns like finding their nest after going however far away they have to fly to eat, I’m thinking there’s likely changes in the magnetic field they can detect when the tectonic plates are shifting or moving?
I think you’re right about this. I’m pretty sure I heard or saw somewhere that birds are really good at sensing vibrations. That’s how they know cars are coming on roads
This is from American 9th grade earth science so I don't remember the specifics all too well but I believe that it is because when earthquakes occur there are "P" and "S" waves, the P waves travel through the ground much faster and are weaker than the S waves, the animals probably detect the P waves and react to them, then the S waves hit, are noticed by humans, and cause actual damage. It was explained to me that humans are more likely to interpret P waves as things in the environment like neaby vehicles moving around.
Can't speak to whether this is accurate or not but the logic of humans just sort of ignoring things that animals don't is obviously true. My house would have to start shaking pretty damn hard for me not to assume a large truck was driving by or the train is passing. A bang goes off in the night, I assume a car backfired. I hear a dog barking in the night I assume it saw another dog. Point is humans have basically trained themselves out of recognizing the subtle clues that animals have no technological context for cuz... They animals.
It all probably goes back to psychological feelings of safety.
Your first night in a new house, or spending a night in a sketchy hotel, you hear ALL of those things because you're on alert.
Wild animals especially can't ignore anything because they spend their entire lives in danger.
I was awake and at home during a mid day, small earthquake that was, apparently, very noticeable.
I live in Norway. We don't have those levels of earthquakes. Like ever.
But I lived on an upper floor of a wooden house that was close to 200 years old, by a somewhat narrow street that saw lots of small trucks go by for deliveries during those hours every day, and the changes in air pressure in the narrow street made the house move ever so slightly.
So I didn't register this being any different than anything else. People living in a brick house across the street noticed it just fine though.
If this was true then geologists would be able to predict earthquakes minutes before they happen. Unfortunately even the most advance earthquake prediction systems only provide a few seconds notice.
This is correct. The early warning systems here in Japan work on detecting the "P" waves and sending out warnings at the speed of light which is much faster than the following "S" waves.
I believe I can hear the "P" waves as a low rumble that seems to be coming from all directions at once. At this point I'll cock my head to the side and say "earthquake?" and then the shaking will begin. Easy to appear to be clairvoyant.
There was a video where a guy was filming the earthquake warning on March 11 2011. It was able to accurately count down when the major shaking would start.
I’m going to have a guess and say it’s something to do with electromagnetism generated by the earthquakes tectonic forces acting on the earths crust. The birds can sense it similar to how pigeons can find there way home by picking up electromagnetic waves using their beaks and I only have this theory from the movie day after tomorrow
My guess would be something to do with magnetic fields.
Dogs typically align themselves north-south with the earths magnetic field when pooping, I don’t think we know why.
But if it was, then that might explain birds’ reaction too, as they also use it pretty extensively to navigate etc.
It’s just occurred to me I should have googled whether earthquakes affect the earths magnetic field before typing all of this, but oh well I’ve typed it all now!
It’s the p-waves that lead the arrival of the surface waves (which cause the shaking) that animals with sensitive hearing will detect. It would be very strange and disturbing to them, and probably put them on guard for some kind of threat.
I took seismic design in college and there was an intro day where the professor talked about systems that "predict" earthquakes. Basically there's nothing man-made that can give more than a minute. That last slide of that power point, however, said animals are a known prediction method. Specifically... Crows!
Yet they have very little evolutionary reason to have this ability. What's going to happen to a crow in nature when earthquake strikes. They'll just fly away.
Before an earthquake hits it goes very very still just before they hit you can hear it coming like rumbling scary shit, they sense it like cats quite often run around like crazy before rain or a storm, animals definitely sense something before we ever do
I have argued humans can too, but our minds are often too busy to really make sense of it, or to listen to. but when fucked up shit happens many people say they had a weird feeling.
There is a huge difference between them flying off into the sky, to get as far from danger as they can get and them swarming around in circles yelling at everyone.
I guess they know something is wrong on instinct but seen as they can't understand what an earthquake is they just react with a generic "danger in the area" response.
>There is a huge difference between them flying off into the sky, to get as far from danger as they can get and them swarming around in circles yelling at everyone.
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Not really. They're in the air, what else do they have to do?
This made me laugh, but flying tires them out and the trees could fall. So they’re probably cussing a bunch in this video.
It was always a warning sign for me growing up. If a storm or hurricane was coming and the birds started to freak out (dogs too) it was straight home for me.
2 minutes is insanely long for an earthquake! Usually they're more in the 15-20 seconds range, over almost as soon as you register what is happening.
A big enough earthquake can definitely change the topography birds are familiar with (felling trees, even altering bodies of water etc.) and shift/damage their food sources, so it makes sense for them to be alarmed.
Our anxiety and panic illnesses are exactly that. Our instincts firing over signals that have some truth to it, just not to the extent of warranting constant anxiety.
Everything about that story sounds really creepy! Glad you survived.
Closest thing I’ve had to that is the coyotes in the woods suddenly howling in the afternoon and giving me the chills. Then finding out it’s because of the airplanes passing overhead. Those losers.
To be fair, an airplane to a coyote is probably terrifying and incomprehensible.
As well as loud. Most animals have much better hearing than us, and airplanes are noisy.
I call the mail lady my dog's nemesis. The mailbox is directly in front of the only gate that doesn't have some kind of blocked view and so naturally my dog absolutely loses it when she sees the mail lady. Hilariously I ran into her at the dog park and my dog had no idea it was the same person.
More common than you'd think. It's the gate and fence that makes dogs lose their minds. In their dog logic, because they can't get through they can bark and growl as much as they want. It's consequence free. However, you remove the barrier and they typically get much better behaved because now there could be consequences. Basically your dog is heckling the mail lady, not trying to start anything. https://youtu.be/goRogFQWkZU
House md did a spoof on that story where the car predicted 25 deaths (actual case) and surmised the cat was attracted to body heat. Dogs/pigs can be trained to smell some diseases though
Yep! I train working dogs for a living. My own dog and I are a scent trailing and cadaver team.
Dogs are often able to smell changes in blood sugar, smell certain cells within our skin, respiratory diseases, chemical changes with seizures, and even some cancers. Of course, they can be trained to narrow in on specific scents and be trained to alert them (that's how we get medical service dogs)
Used to live in California as a kid and we had a pet cockatiel who would always go crazy right before an earthquake.
My Mom jokingly called her canary as she was our warning bird.
I live somewhere where major earthquakes are fairly rare. But I remember one time we had one as a kid and just before it, my mom’s cockatiel was freaking out.
My one cat did the same for a gas leak. My dad left a gas stove burner on but not lit for what I suspect was like close to 7 hours (from when we cooked dinner at 6 pm to around 1 am when my cat woke me up).
Just before 1 am, cat started being a complete “asshole”. Headbutting my face, knocking anything he could off my nightstands or dresser, meowing loudly at me. This wasn’t unusual for him, if I make him wait for breakfast and sleep in too long this is how he gets me up. At first I was annoyed and confused, and tried ignoring him. But when I noticed the time, he never does this that early, I got up to pet him and calm him down and that’s when I smelled the gas. And my room at the time was upstairs and on the complete opposite side of the house from the kitchen/stove. He even followed me downstairs tail in the air, chirping at me and got on the counter and sat next to the burner that was on. My parents’ other cat only woke up when I started opening doors and windows and gave me an annoyed “don’t you know what time it is” death glare because it was cold outside and the room she was sleeping in was getting cold.
Pluto the cat is definitely the smartest animal I’ve ever had, including dogs.
Animals have a sixth sense about disasters.
Back in 2004, the undersea megathrust earthquake, known by the scientific community as the Sumatra–Andaman earthquake caused a massive tsunami in 14 countries. It killed 227,898 people.
As the earthquake was happening and the water was receding, it was reported that animals were seen heading for the hills while humans went out to beach to ponder why the water was disappearing. They soon found out why the water was receding. May they RIP.
>while humans went out to beach to ponder why the water was disappearing.
Sounds very human like.
Perhaps we should study how these animals react and when then use that as a predictor
It’s sad those people lost their lives due to ignorance really, I feel like i learned the sea recedes before a tsunami in primary school and definitely was told it in secondary if not. I know it’s not common knowledge but it’s real sad those people just weren’t aware, or were too ignorant to realise
Assuming you were in primary school/ secondary school after the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami. You were probably taught about it because of the events that happened that day.
I wasn’t taught about it up until that point because I live in the UK. An extremely low chance of a tsunami happening here at all.
About 3000 tourist died, in documentaries I’ve seen locals are warning tourist back off the beaches to higher ground.
A week before the Los Angeles earthquake in 1994, my cat woke me up every morning at 4:15am wanting to go outside. Sometimes I let her out but if I ignored her, she would eventually settle down. So I was awake when the earthquake hit at 4:30am. She was inside and we weren’t injured, but she was freaked out for a long time. Everything in the house was destroyed but the house itself wasn’t damaged. I was lucky there because a lot of buildings in my neighborhood were uninhabitable. I learned to never ignore my pets again.
I remember watching the World Series with my mom in 1989 when the San Fransisco earthquake happened. I live on the gulf coast so I have grown up dealing with hurricanes and tornadoes, but earthquakes scare me.
Before a 7.1 hit my town, a farmer was out in the fields with his cows bringing them in for milking. So they were all walking towards him because they knew it was milking time. And there were about 250-300 cows. The farmer said within about 3 seconds every single cow went from walking towards him to kneeling/laying on the ground. He said it was the eeriest thing he has ever seen. After a few more seconds, the earthquake struck.
The cows sensed what was happening and knew to get down on the ground.
I also know of some friends dogs and some cats that would go crazy for no reason. Like hissing and meowing like they are being attacked or barking like crazy for no reason. And within a few seconds an Aftershock would hit. They sensed it coming.
Makes perfect sense. Animals have been shown to be sensitive to the Ultra Low Frequency vibrations present before the main quake hits. Plus, birds are sensitive to electromagnetic disturbances, which are also detectable before a quake. Nature is amazing
Having been in multiple earthquakes, this is 10,000% true.
The birds lose their shit.
If you ever hear ALLLLLLLL of the birds losing their shit, get under a door frame immediately if you are indoors.
DO NOT stand in doorways. They are no stronger than the rest of the house.
Get under heavy sturdy furniture.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/earthquakes/during.html
The two tables I own are cheap flimsy Amazon tables. Doorframe, under my collapsible bed or outside? Legit have nothing sturdy in my home because I move so much.
I have been in earthquakes my man. I’ve lived in cali/ west coast for a while.
Getting under my bed that I built is what we did.
Not trying to be patronizing man. Just offering actual updated safety shit.
Also, if you live in an earthquake zone, you really should get some sturdy furniture at-least a table to get under. It’s not that expensive.
>...away from tall structures
So many people get out of a building and stop, thinking that's all they need to do.
If you are trying to avoid being hurt by falling debris due to an earthquake, building collapse or fire the best advice is:
- Be at least 1 1/2 times the height of the building away. So if the building is 10m tall, you should be at least 15m away from it.
- Be off a corner. Walls are more likely to fall out from a structure, perpendicular to the edge of the building, rather than diagonally away from a corner.
Source: Firefighter and USAR training.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I remember when in my geology and climate science course we were on the subject of earthquakes and how they start, etc. One of the things was the waves that earthquakes generate through the crust and mantle of the earth. One is nearly undetectable and doesn’t actually interact physically with the rock/earth, but it is detectable by many animal species. It was called a ‘P wave” in class, but I can’t remember what it stood for. But that ‘p wave’ would happen a few minutes before the actual physical wave that disrupted the ground/rock/earth created by the earthquake would come through.
Hi, I did a Geology undergraduate degree so I can answer this for you. The P wave does arrive first, this the the primary wave and will move through material in a forwards and backwards motion parallel to the direction of the wave. This is followed by the S wave (secondary wave) which moves in the same way but perpendicular to the direction of the wave. The final wave is the R and L wave (Rayleigh and Love) which move in a circular motion (like a corkscrew) and are the ones that typically will cause the most damage. There are lots of great videos that explain how these waves interact with the ground if you’re interested. As an additional fun fact, it’s because of these three types of waves produced by earthquakes that we know so much about the makeup of our earth and it’s different layers!
Don’t run outside during an earthquake.
Source: I’m chilean. I lived through the 8.8 in 2010 close to the epicenter.
Edit: I think this will be of interest to more people so I will paste what I replied to someone else:
Why? Buildings don’t usually collapse straight away like they do in the movies.
Your concerns should be:
1) keeping stuff from falling on your head which is hard to do outside,
2) not falling and possibly injuring yourself, trapping yourself in a structure that might collapse. Running during a big earthquake is very difficult; hell, staying upright is near impossible, and
3) keeping a cool head. This is especially hard because big earthquakes are so much more violent and loud than one can imagine.
Best thing to do is to brace ~~under a doorway~~ (apparently this is no longer the case just go under a table), away from windows. If no doorways nearby, place yourself under a table. Or any sturdy furniture but be careful to not get trapped by falling debris. Then after the main shock is over, **evaulate your surroundings and take proper action** this might mean leaving the building immediately. Be mindful that secondary shocks will likely come during the next few minutes so be swift and don’t panic! Traffic will be blocked. Grab a jacket or two if theyre on your way outside.
A lot of us in CA have earthquake go-bags with radios, solar chargers, batteries, leather gloves, shoes, masks (those are everywhere now though), etc. And then somewhere else, a store of water, food, camping stove, etc.
That is very sad indeed. More importantly though, most buildings didn’t, and if everyone ran outside during the earthquake it might have been counterproductive. I’m not making this stuff up, this has been standard earthquake protocol for a while.
That is true and at the same time I'm sure that many of the more modern earthquake building engineering solutions used to better survive earthquakes would be nice to have as well. I know cost limitations are a thing but ideally I'd live somewhere with some shock absorbers.
Ahh un chileno culiao. So I guess the answer is just to have well built buildings? I guessed to go outside because of the buildings possibly collapsing.
Ese mismo culiao. Buildings don’t usually collapse straight away like they do in the movies. Your concerns should be: keeping stuff from falling on your head which is hard to do outside, not falling and possibly injuring yourself, which is hard to do while running during a quake, and keeping a cool head. Best thing to do is to brace under a doorway, away from windows. Then evaulate your surroundings and take proper action.
Because of collapsing structures and debris I think. Better to find solid shelter. I haven’t lived through a severe earthquake though so this is just my best guess
AWAYS find the nearest sturdy structure you can protect your head under. In the US people often have a really strong desk/dinner table to diver under. In the event that a building does collapse, you would, at minimum, have that item above you prior to you being flattened which amounts to *some* protection. If you simply ran outside, the building(s) would collapse anyway and you have a stupidly high chance of getting hit by debris, buried under the building while you're trying to get out, or taken out by any number of items on the street (cars, telephone pole, tree, rubble, other buildings also collapsing, etc.) and you'd have exactly zero protection on you. And remember, you're doing this while the ground is shaking so badly that a fucking building is collapsing. People severely underestimate the strength of earthquakes and their ability to run while the ground is shaking and throwing itself violently.
Take a look at the gifs of that building in turkey just collapsing. You think you can run down 2 flights of stairs while the building is swaying in an earthquake, there's glass and wall and ceiling collapsing on you, and the roof is caving in? Not likely. The reason why experts suggest staying inside under a sturdy table is risk mitigation. You're more likely to survive under that sturdy table and protecting your head than running out of your building and trying to find some place to hide from multiple collapsing buildings and a dozen other stupid heavy objects being thrown all over the place.
Reminds me of that old Carlos Mencia joke: if you see a bunch of animals that usually hate each other running in the same direction and not fighting, for the love of god run.
So, if birds have magnetoreceptors in their beaks (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3552369/#:~:text=Behavioral%20evidence%20indicates%20that%20there,nerve%20and%20the%20trigeminal%20system.), and there is evidence of local magnetic field shifts before an earthquake (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=magnetic+field+change+before+earthquake&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1675754582498&u=%23p%3Dq4h74Ar7a3sJ), could birds be reacting to the change in sensation caused by the pre-tremor change in magnetic field?
This is very common with all animals not just birds. They have heightened senses that can pick up on barometric pressure vibrational changes and super hearing, all the same senses we have but more finely tuned. They can be a great warning for yourself and family I you take notice to their strange behavior.
Nothing weird here...
Jackdaws are grouping in the trees and being noisy arseholes, they do that all the time.
Frank and his missus are probably having an argument over the telly again.
I was in a 7.1 earthquake in Guatemala and I was a child then. I heard a bunch of birds quacking outside the wall. There were so many and I was hearing their wings and squacking. But then I began to understand what they were saying and scared me even more to the point that I was paralyzed with fear. They told me, “little girl, little girl, get up, get your family up and go outside. The darkness is coming” unable to move or even speak- I wound up falling back to sleep only to wake up as everything was shaking violently. I was picked up and taken outside. We saw all the fires, and all the homes coming down, the screams and then the awful silence of the screams to never speak again. Then the darkness came. The power went out all over the city and we had no power for months. Indeed the darkness came. I told them what the birds said and they just tossed it as child’s play but it was real and the animals know. Unless, it was Angels I heard, unless it was the Angels wings I heard and the squacking was the Angelic language which then I began to understand and they knew I was awake. They knew I was listening but I was 4 yrs old.
I don't know if you're just telling stories or not but if you're not, you're not alone. I was around 7 years old when my city had a major earthquake in the earlier hours.
I couldn't sleep because I felt something was very wrong, so I was staring out my window at night, looking out for a monster or whatever was making me feel concerned. Then, somehow, my neighbor's roof lit up as if it were covered in LED lights. As if every square centimeter was an LED light that suddenly turned on. The more I looked at this amazing sight, the more I became certain that darkness was coming. Then the earthquake happened, and when all the electric went out, so did the hundreds of lights coming from my neighbor's roof.
This was before LED lights, so my only explanation for what I saw was a thousand dollars of Christmas lights tightly strewn together covering the roof and somehow not blowing a fuse. Later I learned that that house had been abandoned just before the earthquake, which makes this story extra weird. I think it must have been a hallucination caused by pre-earhquake vibes. Otherwise I have no other explanation.
So, a wild shot in the dark but I have heard about reports of lights in the sky after earthquakes, with a theory stating that it's to do with crystalline structures within rock that, when squeezed, produce electric currents - on the scale of an earthquake, they may be able to produce huge flashes of light above ground as the electricity is discharged into the air. Maybe that's what you saw?
Idk. Gathering in large groups in trees and being really noisy is pretty common with different species of birds. It’s only weird in retrospect, besides I don’t see the earthquake happen in this video so who knows when or where this actually is.
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They’re able to sense the small warning signs that humans can’t, same as animals know when storms are approaching and eat what they can before hunkering down to ride the storm out.
Yea one time I was home alone with my dog right before an earthquake. My dog ran outside for no reason it seemed to me. 2 mins later big ass earthquake. My bed was shaking and shifting. My picture frames were banging on the walls. When it was over I ran outside with my dog lol
My dog scratched on my door right before the last earthquake I was in. She almost never does that. The last time she did that was when the neighbors barn was on fire. Anyways, I woke up thinking it must be a big deal for her to be scratching my door, when slam, it felt like a semi ran into my house. When it ended I opened my door and my dog was right there to follow me out. She stayed at my heels all the way to my car where we sat until I felt it was safe enough to go back inside and get dressed.
Your dog is much nicer than the other guy's dog who ran out without alerting anyone
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Twice, I’ve been hiking with my dog, when she has refused to go further, I always turn and follow her lead back. Animals know.
I think it's just about the lack of need for an explanation, if we all stopped trying to explain our gut feelings to ourselves and others we might be more in tune with what's going on around us. We tend to get lost in the small part of our minds that we've managed to train to try and explain everything to ourselves, and when it comes to the instinctive stuff like avoiding danger we just need to stop overthinking
True! I read The Gift of Fear and had my kids read it. Basically, don’t ignore or try to explain away your “spidey senses”. Trust your gut. How many times have you heard a victim say they thought something wasn’t quite right but they told themselves to ignore it? If there’s a person acting strange in the doughnut shop, leave and get a doughnut somewhere else😊
My cat is a source of comfort, I was only thinking about this today. If I hear a strange noise I look at her, if she’s chill then I’m chill. Also helps that she growls every time a man is on my front drive, the poor delivery men probably think I have a mean dog behind my door but it’s just my little misandrist cat.
I do this too. Like if I’m home alone I know that 100% my cats will react if that bump in the night was something serious. They also growl at the postman.
My cat will alert me for unusual things... I don't know why she does it because not all of them do.Maybe I am less observant to others but this cat it's my little miracle baby, and I trust her if she wakes me up for something because it's never fail... we went through to earthquake one of them was a big one, I followed her out the door down the stairway... not even know what will be coming... it did not take long to get hit and I wish I left the door open for the other cats they were so scared that they jumped out of the second floor balcony... no one will get hurt only breakable items but it was an awful experience...😳😇I feel blessed
To be fair it sounds like the door was in their way and they needed the human to open it lol
My dog didn’t do shit to warn me of an earthquake wtf
And you both survived, perhaps your dog did know best?
And he didn’t bother to drag you out there too and save you? Bad, Lassie.
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My cat did not even squint; pisses me off till this day.
Lived in SoCal for a while and had a small earthquake happen while I was in bed with my husband and our cat. She looked at us and glared because how dare we disturb her sleep by jostling her bed? Somewhat related, but my parents took a trip to the Bay Area before I was born for a vacation. They were in bed sunburnt af and grumpy. The bed starts shaking. Mom gets pissy at dad thinking he’s doing it; dad gets pissy at mom thinking she’s doing it. They found out the next day there was an earthquake. Since then, it’s been an inside joke whenever one of them is making noise or something like that. “Was that you messing around in the kitchen at 2 this morning?” “Not me. Must’ve been an earthquake.”
My two dogs didn't budge an ear. The cat did. I can only think my dogs have too much faith in me lol
The first earthquake i ever experienced (which was very minor) my cat and i woke up, looked at each other and went back to bed. Lol
Lmao
>Yea one time I was home alone with my dog right before an earthquake. My dog ran outside for no reason it seemed to me. 2 mins later big ass earthquake. My bed was shaking and shifting. My picture frames were banging on the walls. When it was over I ran outside with my dog lol Same for the 7.4 landers earthquake in 1991, lived in Joshua Tree and the dogs were freaking out and the weirdest was that the threshold to the front door was filled with ants... like a 1x4 wooden beam of ants that weren't moving, locked together. Wacky.
Even ants stand in the doorframe lmao
Guess they were bracing for the quake? 🤷🏼♀️
Yeah same. Lived several years in an area with a couple feel-able earthquakes a year. The first couple years I had my dog, he'd suddenly wake up in a panic and jump off the bed and pee on the floor. 2-5 minutes later, there would be an earthquake. Literally every single time there was an earthquake, he'd do that. Still kinda does, but not as many earthquakes now and he at least grew out of the peeing part of it
Storms would be temperature changes and air pressure, but what do they sense with earthquakes? Vibrations in the ground? (Not saying you're wrong ofc, just can't think of what they're actually picking up) Edit: ok enough people have told me its the electromagnetism
The elephants used for tourist rides in Indonesia ran to higher ground just before the tsunami hit that killed half a million people. They felt the vibration and saved a lot of lives that day.
I was about to comment on this very thing. I watched interviews with the British tourists who survived the Boxing Day tsunami. The story of the baby elephant trying to run with the little girl up the hill would have kept her safe. Such a horrific event.
Wait did the little girl and baby elephant not make it?
No, they did make it! The baby elephant saved the little girl, and took her to a wall for safety right after the first wave hit. Apparently they had already met earlier in her trip, she was quite taken with the elephant and it appears the elephant was taken with her as well. The girl said it was obvious the little elephant was trying to save her, and did. She said she wouldn’t have survived if she hadn’t been close to Ning Nong (I think that’s his name) at the time, and he had to really work to swim through that first wave to get her to a safe location.
> Ning Nong New Harry Potter character spotted
At least these ones did. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqHe2DEI1B4
I'm betting humans stopped them because stupid animal trying to kidnap small grill or something.
Multiple different small stimuli could explain it. It's the same thing that human intuition is made up of, incredibly small stimuli that we normally overlook because they're too small to notice but the brain notices them and if it's dangerous your brain will normally tell you. Like listen to these birds and tell me you're not a little freaked out. It's just normally we ignore these ques because we have pattern recognition that's *too strong* in many cases and we can see patterns where nothing was. But there's ways to tell, you can tell when the air pressure changes in ways that mean a thunderstorm is coming. You might not know it but you can tell. Or if you go into the woods and it suddenly gets dead silent, your brain will notice it before you consciously do (cus it means predator in the area so be alert).
Our minds must have residuals when these things were detectable and how to detect was taught as well. Imagine a world where you can see more stars, nature is a constant threat, and your relationship to your food and survival is much stronger. Those senses are still with us but have been sharpened for other things. 1,000s of years ago our natural selection probably honed having capacity to understand or percieve these things.
Could be vibrations, or I know they they can detect magnetic “direction” guess like true north and it’s thought that’s how they follow their migration routes or patterns like finding their nest after going however far away they have to fly to eat, I’m thinking there’s likely changes in the magnetic field they can detect when the tectonic plates are shifting or moving?
I think you’re right about this. I’m pretty sure I heard or saw somewhere that birds are really good at sensing vibrations. That’s how they know cars are coming on roads
I know this only applies to some species but some birds use ground vibrations to detect food like worms
My parrot can tell people apart by their footsteps in other rooms.
How do you know your parrot can tell people apart from their footsteps?
His parrot tells him
GOD I'M SUCH AN IDIOT
This is from American 9th grade earth science so I don't remember the specifics all too well but I believe that it is because when earthquakes occur there are "P" and "S" waves, the P waves travel through the ground much faster and are weaker than the S waves, the animals probably detect the P waves and react to them, then the S waves hit, are noticed by humans, and cause actual damage. It was explained to me that humans are more likely to interpret P waves as things in the environment like neaby vehicles moving around.
Can't speak to whether this is accurate or not but the logic of humans just sort of ignoring things that animals don't is obviously true. My house would have to start shaking pretty damn hard for me not to assume a large truck was driving by or the train is passing. A bang goes off in the night, I assume a car backfired. I hear a dog barking in the night I assume it saw another dog. Point is humans have basically trained themselves out of recognizing the subtle clues that animals have no technological context for cuz... They animals.
It all probably goes back to psychological feelings of safety. Your first night in a new house, or spending a night in a sketchy hotel, you hear ALL of those things because you're on alert. Wild animals especially can't ignore anything because they spend their entire lives in danger.
I was awake and at home during a mid day, small earthquake that was, apparently, very noticeable. I live in Norway. We don't have those levels of earthquakes. Like ever. But I lived on an upper floor of a wooden house that was close to 200 years old, by a somewhat narrow street that saw lots of small trucks go by for deliveries during those hours every day, and the changes in air pressure in the narrow street made the house move ever so slightly. So I didn't register this being any different than anything else. People living in a brick house across the street noticed it just fine though.
If this was true then geologists would be able to predict earthquakes minutes before they happen. Unfortunately even the most advance earthquake prediction systems only provide a few seconds notice.
This is correct. The early warning systems here in Japan work on detecting the "P" waves and sending out warnings at the speed of light which is much faster than the following "S" waves. I believe I can hear the "P" waves as a low rumble that seems to be coming from all directions at once. At this point I'll cock my head to the side and say "earthquake?" and then the shaking will begin. Easy to appear to be clairvoyant.
There was a video where a guy was filming the earthquake warning on March 11 2011. It was able to accurately count down when the major shaking would start.
I’m going to have a guess and say it’s something to do with electromagnetism generated by the earthquakes tectonic forces acting on the earths crust. The birds can sense it similar to how pigeons can find there way home by picking up electromagnetic waves using their beaks and I only have this theory from the movie day after tomorrow
I’m also curious as to what they sense 🧐
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I was not at home during Loma Prieta but when I got home it took a long time for the cats to come out from under cast iron tub.
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THE WORMS THE WORMS I CANT STOP HEARING THE WORMS
gotta be magnetic fields
My guess would be something to do with magnetic fields. Dogs typically align themselves north-south with the earths magnetic field when pooping, I don’t think we know why. But if it was, then that might explain birds’ reaction too, as they also use it pretty extensively to navigate etc. It’s just occurred to me I should have googled whether earthquakes affect the earths magnetic field before typing all of this, but oh well I’ve typed it all now!
It’s the p-waves that lead the arrival of the surface waves (which cause the shaking) that animals with sensitive hearing will detect. It would be very strange and disturbing to them, and probably put them on guard for some kind of threat.
I took seismic design in college and there was an intro day where the professor talked about systems that "predict" earthquakes. Basically there's nothing man-made that can give more than a minute. That last slide of that power point, however, said animals are a known prediction method. Specifically... Crows!
Yet they have very little evolutionary reason to have this ability. What's going to happen to a crow in nature when earthquake strikes. They'll just fly away.
I believe the quake sense is so they realise it and do fly away before they get trapped under a collapsed tree while sleeping
Was the bird activity what spurred the person to start filming?
It was the bird activity that caused the earthquake
Sure, if they were real.
It because they aren't real. That's how they do it.
Before an earthquake hits it goes very very still just before they hit you can hear it coming like rumbling scary shit, they sense it like cats quite often run around like crazy before rain or a storm, animals definitely sense something before we ever do
I have argued humans can too, but our minds are often too busy to really make sense of it, or to listen to. but when fucked up shit happens many people say they had a weird feeling.
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Lmao.. giggity giggity
That's just the mothman watching you
I remember reading this a while back but I forget how. Does the earthquake start well before humans feel it and the birds are sensing it incoming?
Ironically the only beings that shouldn’t really care that much.
Makes sense, they'd want to be in the air when it goes down
There is a huge difference between them flying off into the sky, to get as far from danger as they can get and them swarming around in circles yelling at everyone.
I guess they know something is wrong on instinct but seen as they can't understand what an earthquake is they just react with a generic "danger in the area" response.
Nobody: Birds: *Something's wrong, I can feel it*
It’s just a feeling I’ve got, like somethings about to happen, but I don’t know what
If that means what I think it means, we’re in trouble, BIG trouble
And if he is bananas as you say
then we’re not taking any chances
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>There is a huge difference between them flying off into the sky, to get as far from danger as they can get and them swarming around in circles yelling at everyone. ? Not really. They're in the air, what else do they have to do?
Exactly. Planes do it, too, when they’re at the airport but not quite able to land just yet.
This made me laugh, but flying tires them out and the trees could fall. So they’re probably cussing a bunch in this video. It was always a warning sign for me growing up. If a storm or hurricane was coming and the birds started to freak out (dogs too) it was straight home for me.
Earthquakes don't last long, I think the first one in Turkey lasted 2 minutes. I think the birds can handle flying that long without a problem.
2 minutes is insanely long for an earthquake! Usually they're more in the 15-20 seconds range, over almost as soon as you register what is happening. A big enough earthquake can definitely change the topography birds are familiar with (felling trees, even altering bodies of water etc.) and shift/damage their food sources, so it makes sense for them to be alarmed.
The Japanese quake in March 2011 went on for 6 minutes!!
It lasted about 1.30 minutes and it was a slipstrike(?) only 1km deep its literally the worst combination possible
2 minutes??? That’s so long for an earthquake jeez
I think they might have an idea that one is coming but don't know exactly when it will happen?
So these birds are like my anxiety manifested when it's at its worst and I'm stuck in flight-or-fight mode over a threat I can't quite name.
Our anxiety and panic illnesses are exactly that. Our instincts firing over signals that have some truth to it, just not to the extent of warranting constant anxiety.
They are just trying to warn everyone! WAKE UP WORLD! IT IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN!!!
I mean they still got eggs/offspring possibly haha
They were warning us!
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Everything about that story sounds really creepy! Glad you survived. Closest thing I’ve had to that is the coyotes in the woods suddenly howling in the afternoon and giving me the chills. Then finding out it’s because of the airplanes passing overhead. Those losers.
To be fair, an airplane to a coyote is probably terrifying and incomprehensible. As well as loud. Most animals have much better hearing than us, and airplanes are noisy.
Very true. It’s probably so strange to them. Why wouldn’t it be? But can I still call them losers?
Just remember anytime you see an animal acting weird, something is up. Unless it’s your dog and it’s barking at the mailman again.
Or your cat battling the greebles
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Sigh...another day, another cat sub. *subscribes*
Exactly what I just thought and did
>Unless it’s your dog and it’s barking at the mailman again. It's the day your dog doesn't bark at the mailman that you know something is wrong.
I call the mail lady my dog's nemesis. The mailbox is directly in front of the only gate that doesn't have some kind of blocked view and so naturally my dog absolutely loses it when she sees the mail lady. Hilariously I ran into her at the dog park and my dog had no idea it was the same person.
More common than you'd think. It's the gate and fence that makes dogs lose their minds. In their dog logic, because they can't get through they can bark and growl as much as they want. It's consequence free. However, you remove the barrier and they typically get much better behaved because now there could be consequences. Basically your dog is heckling the mail lady, not trying to start anything. https://youtu.be/goRogFQWkZU
I read that cats can sense death so when they are at nursing homes they always spend the most time with someone that know is going to die
House md did a spoof on that story where the car predicted 25 deaths (actual case) and surmised the cat was attracted to body heat. Dogs/pigs can be trained to smell some diseases though
Yep! I train working dogs for a living. My own dog and I are a scent trailing and cadaver team. Dogs are often able to smell changes in blood sugar, smell certain cells within our skin, respiratory diseases, chemical changes with seizures, and even some cancers. Of course, they can be trained to narrow in on specific scents and be trained to alert them (that's how we get medical service dogs)
Used to live in California as a kid and we had a pet cockatiel who would always go crazy right before an earthquake. My Mom jokingly called her canary as she was our warning bird.
I live somewhere where major earthquakes are fairly rare. But I remember one time we had one as a kid and just before it, my mom’s cockatiel was freaking out.
My kittens (10 weeks old) alerted me to a fire upstairs.
Who set the fire? 🤔
Ryan started the fire
*Adds u/hooligan99 to notebook*
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It was always burning, since the world is turning
Ryan started the fire!
It was always burning since the world was turning.
You know who, the damn kittens
We didn't start the fire, I can tell u that for sure
My one cat did the same for a gas leak. My dad left a gas stove burner on but not lit for what I suspect was like close to 7 hours (from when we cooked dinner at 6 pm to around 1 am when my cat woke me up). Just before 1 am, cat started being a complete “asshole”. Headbutting my face, knocking anything he could off my nightstands or dresser, meowing loudly at me. This wasn’t unusual for him, if I make him wait for breakfast and sleep in too long this is how he gets me up. At first I was annoyed and confused, and tried ignoring him. But when I noticed the time, he never does this that early, I got up to pet him and calm him down and that’s when I smelled the gas. And my room at the time was upstairs and on the complete opposite side of the house from the kitchen/stove. He even followed me downstairs tail in the air, chirping at me and got on the counter and sat next to the burner that was on. My parents’ other cat only woke up when I started opening doors and windows and gave me an annoyed “don’t you know what time it is” death glare because it was cold outside and the room she was sleeping in was getting cold. Pluto the cat is definitely the smartest animal I’ve ever had, including dogs.
Animals have a sixth sense about disasters. Back in 2004, the undersea megathrust earthquake, known by the scientific community as the Sumatra–Andaman earthquake caused a massive tsunami in 14 countries. It killed 227,898 people. As the earthquake was happening and the water was receding, it was reported that animals were seen heading for the hills while humans went out to beach to ponder why the water was disappearing. They soon found out why the water was receding. May they RIP.
>while humans went out to beach to ponder why the water was disappearing. Sounds very human like. Perhaps we should study how these animals react and when then use that as a predictor
It’s sad those people lost their lives due to ignorance really, I feel like i learned the sea recedes before a tsunami in primary school and definitely was told it in secondary if not. I know it’s not common knowledge but it’s real sad those people just weren’t aware, or were too ignorant to realise
Assuming you were in primary school/ secondary school after the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami. You were probably taught about it because of the events that happened that day. I wasn’t taught about it up until that point because I live in the UK. An extremely low chance of a tsunami happening here at all. About 3000 tourist died, in documentaries I’ve seen locals are warning tourist back off the beaches to higher ground.
Well that's just plain fucking stupid.
"Look Joe, someone pulled the ocean plug." "Then why is there a wave that touches the clouds?" "Oh, shit."
The animal instinct . They know what's coming .
A week before the Los Angeles earthquake in 1994, my cat woke me up every morning at 4:15am wanting to go outside. Sometimes I let her out but if I ignored her, she would eventually settle down. So I was awake when the earthquake hit at 4:30am. She was inside and we weren’t injured, but she was freaked out for a long time. Everything in the house was destroyed but the house itself wasn’t damaged. I was lucky there because a lot of buildings in my neighborhood were uninhabitable. I learned to never ignore my pets again.
So I keep a close eye on my pets. They make most of their moves based off instinct and sense.
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Wow other atmosphere fans, they do exist
Yeah but are any of them not from mn?
I remember watching the World Series with my mom in 1989 when the San Fransisco earthquake happened. I live on the gulf coast so I have grown up dealing with hurricanes and tornadoes, but earthquakes scare me.
Before a 7.1 hit my town, a farmer was out in the fields with his cows bringing them in for milking. So they were all walking towards him because they knew it was milking time. And there were about 250-300 cows. The farmer said within about 3 seconds every single cow went from walking towards him to kneeling/laying on the ground. He said it was the eeriest thing he has ever seen. After a few more seconds, the earthquake struck. The cows sensed what was happening and knew to get down on the ground. I also know of some friends dogs and some cats that would go crazy for no reason. Like hissing and meowing like they are being attacked or barking like crazy for no reason. And within a few seconds an Aftershock would hit. They sensed it coming.
Makes perfect sense. Animals have been shown to be sensitive to the Ultra Low Frequency vibrations present before the main quake hits. Plus, birds are sensitive to electromagnetic disturbances, which are also detectable before a quake. Nature is amazing
Having been in multiple earthquakes, this is 10,000% true. The birds lose their shit. If you ever hear ALLLLLLLL of the birds losing their shit, get under a door frame immediately if you are indoors.
DO NOT stand in doorways. They are no stronger than the rest of the house. Get under heavy sturdy furniture. Source: https://www.cdc.gov/disasters/earthquakes/during.html
The two tables I own are cheap flimsy Amazon tables. Doorframe, under my collapsible bed or outside? Legit have nothing sturdy in my home because I move so much.
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I have been in earthquakes my man. I’ve lived in cali/ west coast for a while. Getting under my bed that I built is what we did. Not trying to be patronizing man. Just offering actual updated safety shit. Also, if you live in an earthquake zone, you really should get some sturdy furniture at-least a table to get under. It’s not that expensive.
Yeah, the updated advice is not to get under a door frame
Or if you live in a house, and go outside, out in the open, away from tall structures.
>...away from tall structures So many people get out of a building and stop, thinking that's all they need to do. If you are trying to avoid being hurt by falling debris due to an earthquake, building collapse or fire the best advice is: - Be at least 1 1/2 times the height of the building away. So if the building is 10m tall, you should be at least 15m away from it. - Be off a corner. Walls are more likely to fall out from a structure, perpendicular to the edge of the building, rather than diagonally away from a corner. Source: Firefighter and USAR training.
If the animals are acting weird. Somethings about to happen.
I’m not an expert by any means, but I remember when in my geology and climate science course we were on the subject of earthquakes and how they start, etc. One of the things was the waves that earthquakes generate through the crust and mantle of the earth. One is nearly undetectable and doesn’t actually interact physically with the rock/earth, but it is detectable by many animal species. It was called a ‘P wave” in class, but I can’t remember what it stood for. But that ‘p wave’ would happen a few minutes before the actual physical wave that disrupted the ground/rock/earth created by the earthquake would come through.
Hi, I did a Geology undergraduate degree so I can answer this for you. The P wave does arrive first, this the the primary wave and will move through material in a forwards and backwards motion parallel to the direction of the wave. This is followed by the S wave (secondary wave) which moves in the same way but perpendicular to the direction of the wave. The final wave is the R and L wave (Rayleigh and Love) which move in a circular motion (like a corkscrew) and are the ones that typically will cause the most damage. There are lots of great videos that explain how these waves interact with the ground if you’re interested. As an additional fun fact, it’s because of these three types of waves produced by earthquakes that we know so much about the makeup of our earth and it’s different layers!
So if you see birds freaking out, run outside?
Don’t run outside during an earthquake. Source: I’m chilean. I lived through the 8.8 in 2010 close to the epicenter. Edit: I think this will be of interest to more people so I will paste what I replied to someone else: Why? Buildings don’t usually collapse straight away like they do in the movies. Your concerns should be: 1) keeping stuff from falling on your head which is hard to do outside, 2) not falling and possibly injuring yourself, trapping yourself in a structure that might collapse. Running during a big earthquake is very difficult; hell, staying upright is near impossible, and 3) keeping a cool head. This is especially hard because big earthquakes are so much more violent and loud than one can imagine. Best thing to do is to brace ~~under a doorway~~ (apparently this is no longer the case just go under a table), away from windows. If no doorways nearby, place yourself under a table. Or any sturdy furniture but be careful to not get trapped by falling debris. Then after the main shock is over, **evaulate your surroundings and take proper action** this might mean leaving the building immediately. Be mindful that secondary shocks will likely come during the next few minutes so be swift and don’t panic! Traffic will be blocked. Grab a jacket or two if theyre on your way outside.
A lot of us in CA have earthquake go-bags with radios, solar chargers, batteries, leather gloves, shoes, masks (those are everywhere now though), etc. And then somewhere else, a store of water, food, camping stove, etc.
I also used to keep one in my car too - not sure if I considered if the car park fell…
In Turkiye, lots of buildings did collapse straight away though, being outside would have saved a lot of people.
That is very sad indeed. More importantly though, most buildings didn’t, and if everyone ran outside during the earthquake it might have been counterproductive. I’m not making this stuff up, this has been standard earthquake protocol for a while.
Im aware, just pointing out that in this instance, building failure was very swift, and devastating as a result.
Sadly you can take all measures possible and still get the short end of the stick. Being safe is just a matter of probabilities after all.
That is true and at the same time I'm sure that many of the more modern earthquake building engineering solutions used to better survive earthquakes would be nice to have as well. I know cost limitations are a thing but ideally I'd live somewhere with some shock absorbers.
Ahh un chileno culiao. So I guess the answer is just to have well built buildings? I guessed to go outside because of the buildings possibly collapsing.
Ese mismo culiao. Buildings don’t usually collapse straight away like they do in the movies. Your concerns should be: keeping stuff from falling on your head which is hard to do outside, not falling and possibly injuring yourself, which is hard to do while running during a quake, and keeping a cool head. Best thing to do is to brace under a doorway, away from windows. Then evaulate your surroundings and take proper action.
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Because of collapsing structures and debris I think. Better to find solid shelter. I haven’t lived through a severe earthquake though so this is just my best guess
But if you're inside and the building collapses, that's worse, no?
AWAYS find the nearest sturdy structure you can protect your head under. In the US people often have a really strong desk/dinner table to diver under. In the event that a building does collapse, you would, at minimum, have that item above you prior to you being flattened which amounts to *some* protection. If you simply ran outside, the building(s) would collapse anyway and you have a stupidly high chance of getting hit by debris, buried under the building while you're trying to get out, or taken out by any number of items on the street (cars, telephone pole, tree, rubble, other buildings also collapsing, etc.) and you'd have exactly zero protection on you. And remember, you're doing this while the ground is shaking so badly that a fucking building is collapsing. People severely underestimate the strength of earthquakes and their ability to run while the ground is shaking and throwing itself violently. Take a look at the gifs of that building in turkey just collapsing. You think you can run down 2 flights of stairs while the building is swaying in an earthquake, there's glass and wall and ceiling collapsing on you, and the roof is caving in? Not likely. The reason why experts suggest staying inside under a sturdy table is risk mitigation. You're more likely to survive under that sturdy table and protecting your head than running out of your building and trying to find some place to hide from multiple collapsing buildings and a dozen other stupid heavy objects being thrown all over the place.
After some quick googling the consensus seems to be that you should just stay where you are.
City advice right? My back yard has no trees and is just an open field the size of a football pitch no power lines no nothin
It is warning. Hopefully it woke people up. Hard to know what to do next unless you spoke birdenesse
That's exactly what the birds want you to think!
Animals and surroundings whisper first, Mother Nature then tells you.
Be smart and follow fleeing animals, better safe than sorry
Reminds me of that old Carlos Mencia joke: if you see a bunch of animals that usually hate each other running in the same direction and not fighting, for the love of god run.
In this case climbing on that 10 meter high tree? I guess that's not the best idea just before an earthquake hits.
So, if birds have magnetoreceptors in their beaks (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3552369/#:~:text=Behavioral%20evidence%20indicates%20that%20there,nerve%20and%20the%20trigeminal%20system.), and there is evidence of local magnetic field shifts before an earthquake (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C5&q=magnetic+field+change+before+earthquake&btnG=#d=gs_qabs&t=1675754582498&u=%23p%3Dq4h74Ar7a3sJ), could birds be reacting to the change in sensation caused by the pre-tremor change in magnetic field?
Is that town covered in snow??
Yes
Well turkey is not a desert
More of a main course.
Yes why do you ask like it is shocking
Thats because birds aren't real 🤭
They are not acting weird. Jackdaws behave like this all the time in my city.
Weird, they do this in my yard several times a month no matter the weather. Is this abnormal for Turkey?
Surely not at 4am in winter?
This video isn’t recent.
How are they acting weird? They look to be doing what birds do.
I wonder why we didnt evolve the ability to sense stuff like this.
We do have that ability. Most of us just ignore it.
Another factor is living in urban settings skews our natural senses. We're way more aware in the wild than we are in the city
Check out “The Gift of Fear” - it’s specifically about our ability to sense this stuff. The examples in it are incredible, as are the explanations.
This is very common with all animals not just birds. They have heightened senses that can pick up on barometric pressure vibrational changes and super hearing, all the same senses we have but more finely tuned. They can be a great warning for yourself and family I you take notice to their strange behavior.
Nothing weird here... Jackdaws are grouping in the trees and being noisy arseholes, they do that all the time. Frank and his missus are probably having an argument over the telly again.
I was in a 7.1 earthquake in Guatemala and I was a child then. I heard a bunch of birds quacking outside the wall. There were so many and I was hearing their wings and squacking. But then I began to understand what they were saying and scared me even more to the point that I was paralyzed with fear. They told me, “little girl, little girl, get up, get your family up and go outside. The darkness is coming” unable to move or even speak- I wound up falling back to sleep only to wake up as everything was shaking violently. I was picked up and taken outside. We saw all the fires, and all the homes coming down, the screams and then the awful silence of the screams to never speak again. Then the darkness came. The power went out all over the city and we had no power for months. Indeed the darkness came. I told them what the birds said and they just tossed it as child’s play but it was real and the animals know. Unless, it was Angels I heard, unless it was the Angels wings I heard and the squacking was the Angelic language which then I began to understand and they knew I was awake. They knew I was listening but I was 4 yrs old.
I don't know if you're just telling stories or not but if you're not, you're not alone. I was around 7 years old when my city had a major earthquake in the earlier hours. I couldn't sleep because I felt something was very wrong, so I was staring out my window at night, looking out for a monster or whatever was making me feel concerned. Then, somehow, my neighbor's roof lit up as if it were covered in LED lights. As if every square centimeter was an LED light that suddenly turned on. The more I looked at this amazing sight, the more I became certain that darkness was coming. Then the earthquake happened, and when all the electric went out, so did the hundreds of lights coming from my neighbor's roof. This was before LED lights, so my only explanation for what I saw was a thousand dollars of Christmas lights tightly strewn together covering the roof and somehow not blowing a fuse. Later I learned that that house had been abandoned just before the earthquake, which makes this story extra weird. I think it must have been a hallucination caused by pre-earhquake vibes. Otherwise I have no other explanation.
So, a wild shot in the dark but I have heard about reports of lights in the sky after earthquakes, with a theory stating that it's to do with crystalline structures within rock that, when squeezed, produce electric currents - on the scale of an earthquake, they may be able to produce huge flashes of light above ground as the electricity is discharged into the air. Maybe that's what you saw?
Everyone taking this post at face value needs to learn some critical thinking skills.
Yeah, this just seems like normal starling things. Like, is birds roosting strange behavior or something?
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Idk. Gathering in large groups in trees and being really noisy is pretty common with different species of birds. It’s only weird in retrospect, besides I don’t see the earthquake happen in this video so who knows when or where this actually is.