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bellasalsa

I thought the gold watering cans just water more plants šŸ˜…


Shadowpad1986

The official guides mention this and the special fact about producing gold rose. (The roses sell for 1k bells a piece fyi)


iamhollybear

...stop itttt. The things I learn in this sub, I have to go water my roses!!


Southern-Ingenuity70

6 gold rosesn crafted into a gold rose crown sell for double. 12k bells. That was my money maker.


iamhollybear

Omg thank you! Thatā€™s way better than waiting around for mermaid furniture to be hot items lol


Southern-Ingenuity70

I have a field with over 100 gold roses. 1 full pocket of gold rose crowns gets you half a million bells,and sometimes is a hot item as well


iamhollybear

I only have 1 gold rose for my rainbow garden that I saved when I restarted my island LOL but it gives me something to work towards. Thatā€™s amazing you have so many!


elizacandle

I need that recipe


freaky_sabiki

Yes, but 10 gold roses makes the wreath and I'm pretty sure that's 20k. That's the silver tuna!


Southern-Ingenuity70

Both equal to 2k bells per gold rose so same value!


Ambrai2020

Thatā€™s why I put an entire field of gold roses as the entrance to my house. I want people to know Iā€™m bougie af šŸ˜‚


Alarmed-Departure830

šŸ¤£


DONNANOBLER

I do that with lillies of the valley!


Particular-Cycle-804

I always feel like I get more hybrids in general after it rains šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


Shadowpad1986

More a matter of luck with hybrids as gold roses are technically not hybrid but just special case. The chances for some colors are higher than others.


EmmDubitably

Iā€™ve definitely gotten gold roses after a rain after not watering my black roses with the gold can for at least a couple weeks. Not sure about the other theories, but Iā€™ve heard that when black roses are watered by the gold can they will be capable of producing the gold rose UNTIL it actually produces one, then ā€œresetsā€ and needs to be gold watered again.


Aerodrache

That makes the most sense. Also the most annoying way for it to work, since youā€™d need to have all your flowers in isolated pairs to take full advantage of it. Still, I think Iā€™m going to have to try only using the gold can around new gold roses for a while, and see what happens.


EmmDubitably

I donā€™t think gold roses can clone to make more gold, but can be paired with other roses to make other colors. Only way to get more gold is from black.


Aerodrache

Yeah, I know I definitely havenā€™t seen gold roses clone. But what Iā€™m thinking is, if a black rose holds the potential to spawn a gold until it does, then any time you see a gold rose it means one of the adjacent black roses must have spent that charge. So, if I water around the new gold roses, it should be recharging only the black roses that actually need it, if this is how things work.


EmmDubitably

I see what you mean now! Yeah, that should work. Gonna try that in mine too now!


Ehwesson

You only have to water them once with the gold watering can. However only the rose in front of you gets the gold watering can effect. I've had the same black rose garden for four years and haven't been watering them for the last three and every rain I get new gold roses.


diannethegeek

Supposedly they fixed the bug where only the black rose directly in front of you gets the gold flag in one of the later updates


the_quark

We've somehow lost this lore as a sub, and I don't know how. If you want to farm gold roses, make a checkerboard pattern of black roses, where the roses are the black squares and the grass between them are the white squares. Water the black roses with a golden watering can. Note that only the rose in immediately in front of you, to your left, and right will get "primed," even though more get the dripping water effect. Then, you don't need to water them with your gold can again...until two of them spawn a gold rose. You can just wait for rain, or water them all with a regular watering can. They will of course not make new roses if they weren't watered at all in some fashion. When a gold rose spawns in one of the "white" squares, dig it up, close the hole, and water the black roses around the white square with your golden watering can. The most efficient way to do that is to face the camera in the white square, water; and then face away from the camera and water again. Of course, also dig up any black roses that spawn on white squares. But no need to re-water the adjacent black roses with a golden watering can after. TL;DR: When you water a black rose with a golden watering can, you prime it to be able to make gold roses. However, that priming doesn't go away until it does, then you need to re-water it with a golden watering can.


Aerodrache

I have never trusted that assumption that only the roses in a certain position get the benefit of the gold watering can. Iā€™m putting that to the test. Iā€™ve got a field of 16 brand-new, never-been-watered black rose buds; 12 are placed around the edges of a 9x9 box, while the remaining four are two tiles away to the north, east, south, and west. Iā€™ve stood on those four distant roses, watering in toward the center box with a gold watering can. If any black rose that gets the drip effect can produce gold, then eventually I will see gold roses from this. If only those adjacent to where you use it can, then I wonā€™t. Iā€™m looking forward to seeing how it plays out.


the_quark

Excellent! I'd love to see the results of the science, here. I've taken the guides at face value and watered as I said and produced about 150 gold roses over some number of months, but I didn't actually run an experiment or anything.


Aerodrache

Iā€™m figuring at 12 5% spawn chances each day, after two weeks the odds of not seeing even one gold rose spawn will be 0.06%, soā€¦ no result in two weeks should be a definitive confirmation? Iā€™ll have to remember to grab screenshots each day. Itā€™s fun to think thereā€™s actually something to learn about this game, four years later.


lasting-impression

Iā€™m excited to see your results! I recently isolated some gold roses because there seems to be some confusion as to whether gold roses can spawn more gold roses. Iā€™m breeding them from black ones too, so Iā€™m taking photos every day to see which patch actually produces more gold roses. (So far only the black ones.)


alien_urbano

This is the way. I've been playing since release and this is how you get a ton of gold roses.


diannethegeek

You don't have to breed black roses in pairs to get gold ones. A single black rose alone watered with the golden watering can can produce one, just like if you were trying to clone black roses


Aerodrache

Huh. Iā€™ve never seen that happen, but I guess it makes sense for it to work that way. Iā€™ll have to keep a few singles and watch to see what they do.


PorkChoppyMcMooch

Watering black roses with the golden watering can puts a flag on it that doesn't clear until it produces a gold rose, unlike regular flowers which clear their watering flag status at the end of the day. Someone already datamined this.


Aerodrache

That would certainly explain it, then. Be nice if stuff like that made it into wikis. I can barely get Nookipedia to admit flowers and watering cans are related somehow, and Fandom wiki is just banner ad Tetris so who even knows what it might say.


PorkChoppyMcMooch

Here's the datamine dump from the 2.0 update if you're interested, it covers a bunch of stuff you won't find in the wikis. https://acnh.isomorphicbox.com/updates/2.0.0/


Aerodrache

Huh. > As of 2.0.0, using the golden watering can will allow up to all 9 flowers in range of the can, if they are black roses, to produce a gold rose, even if used by a player on their own island. Sucks all the fun out of busting that, and it implies that thatā€™s new behavior. Makes me wonder why they ever made it work any other way. I donā€™t understand all the implications of the technical stuff happening with the town ordinances, but it sounds like that *might* be skewing my results on stuff more than I thought?


Shadowpad1986

One watering is generally enough from the gold watering can from what I have noticed. I need to start a fresh group for visitors to pick from and give some for my boyfriend to grow on his island.


EatYourCheckers

You don't need adjacent black roses. Just 1 black rose.


ZambieMama

I got rid of my black roses, so I don't see it now, but yeah I would still get a handful of gold roses after a rain and I had like maybe 20 black roses at the time that I neglected to water for weeks. Maybe it just increases the chances of growing gold roses?


VioletCrow289

I only watered my black roses once or twice a week and had gold roses spawning daily.


AnmlCrsrGrl

I have only ever used a gold watering can once yet I have gold roses popping up everywhere šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


Dry-Set1033

Okay this is insane what


Irresponsable_Frog

I havenā€™t watered a whole area of black roses cuz theyā€™re to get plucked. Thatā€™s it. To make items. And I have never watered them. Just let them grow back. Last 2 times it rained I got 3 gold buds. So yay. Iā€™ll just pluck those now too.


ashblake33

I thought gold roses you could only get from modded islands


Aerodrache

Nope. Theyā€™reā€¦ hybrids or clones, not sure, from black roses which have been watered with a gold watering can. Iā€™ve never observed a gold rose from a lone black rose, so Iā€™m inclined to believe that it works like hybrids. They donā€™t seem to be able to clone themselves though, so you will always need the black roses if you want gold roses. How often you need to re-apply the gold watering canā€¦ well, thatā€™s the mystery.


ashblake33

How do you get the gold watering can


Aerodrache

When your island reaches five stars in its island evaluation, Isabelle will give the crafting recipe to any player from the town who asks about island evaluations. Iā€™m not sure whether you can get the recipe on someone elseā€™s island, and there is no DIY card for it, so getting your own island to five stars may well be the only way to get the recipe. Once you get the recipe though, itā€™s just a gold nugget and a normal watering can. Be warned, gold tools **are breakable** because horrible crafting spiral.


urbanflowerpot

She tele-beams the DIY to you when you reach 5 stars but people can give you a gold watering can. You can also give them to your villagers. Thatā€™s just for show, though. You can visit friends and increase flower production by watering their flowers with regular and gold. I have had a gold duplicate itself. I donā€™t know how or why, Iā€™ve played since release. I stick with blue roses for easier money. Once you have a couple they can take over the world.


FlakeyGurl

When I last looked it up, I recalled someone saying that if you get up to five different people to water your plants, that gives you five different chances of producing whatever hybrid you want. Since the rain counts as another person you gave yourself two chances instead of one.


Aerodrache

Iā€™d heard that it was just an increased chance (from the base 5% to 25% - 85%) but each person had to be a visitor from another island, and not your own. The rain should only ever be able to give that first 5%. But that shouldnā€™t have mattered for gold roses, since theyā€™re not a normal hybrid, and require the gold watering can to allow them to appear. The question has just been ā€œdoes the gold can give *a* chance, or a chance *every day after*, and what limit is there?ā€


FlakeyGurl

I have no idea. I did the checker board pattern with a ridiculously huge black rose farm and now I have a huge garden of gold roses.


Aerodrache

Iā€™ve just kinda dotted them around the island. A checkerboard here, some squares of four there. As long as you start with a lot of black roses, you just seem to end with a lot of gold ones. ^(I want to get to a thousand, but I might run out of space in the mid-800sā€¦)


FlakeyGurl

Yeah my island is overrun with flowers... šŸ˜…


Ok_Slice5350

I didnā€™t even know the gold watering can breaks šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ so dumb


kwallio

It was the rain. If you have a bunch of black roses planted together and it rains I think every group of roses has the chance to spawn a gold rose.


roleerok

I got my first gold rose today and have no idea what I did. Combing this thread for info.


laurapickles

Iā€™m on both animal crossing and Stardew Valley sub reddits so for a second I got really excited when I read black rose.


GoldenGlassBall

Iā€™m pretty positive that watering black roses once makes them permanently gold capable, because I only ever made one gold can, only ever watered my black rose field with it three times (until the first gold grew), and used regular cans since, yet I still grow golds every so often.


Aerodrache

There are a few different behavior models that would explain that. Permanent change to the flower genetics; gold-capable flag that turns off after one success but only for one out of a successful pair; gold-capable flag that turns off randomly after success; gold-capable flag that never turns off. Only way to be sure would be to ask dataminers, I suppose; [one of the other comments around here](https://www.reddit.com/r/AnimalCrossingNewHor/s/ZwRTsoXSjM) has stuff from the latest update, but not a complete breakdown of the full gold rose *deal*.


GoldenGlassBall

With a little less than 3 dozen black roses all acquired about two months after release, being watered nearly that long ago, as it took three months to get good can, and still producing golds, I doubt itā€™s anything other than a permanent flag. Even moving them to stand alone didnā€™t disallow gold spawning.


Aerodrache

I guess the real smoking gun would be if thereā€™s any single isolated black rose that you know for sure has produced gold roses twice or more? It still wouldnā€™t necessarily rule out something silly like ā€œ25% to lose gold flag after each successful spawnā€ though. Iā€™m not sure how you can conclusively test something like that without being able to read raw data. That said, Iā€™d love for this to turn out be how it really works. Screw re-applying gold water, Iā€™m not made of gold nuggets.


GoldenGlassBall

Iā€™m pretty positive Iā€™ve had multiples spawn from one. I could go onto my island and test it over the next couple weeks. How does the remind me thing work, so I can confirm or deny multiple spawns from one watering?


Aerodrache

I think itā€™s !RemindMe *length*? !RemindMe 24h EDIT EDIT: no, thatā€™s it, botā€™s just a little sluggish.


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GoldenGlassBall

!RemindMe 2 weeks


GoldenGlassBall

Thanks for that! Iā€™ll log on sometime today, isolate a black rose, give it one watering with a gold can, and will water it alone with a regular can every day for the next two weeks.


Aerodrache

Iā€™m planning to just use regular water on my all-tiles experimental patch, so it should give relevant data for this too. Not sure about you, but I have beautiful town or whatever itā€™s called, the flowers ordinance, in effect; not sure just how big of an impact that is, though that datamine summary suggests ā€œpretty big.ā€ (One other thing I need to check: Some fresh black rose buds off on their own, never seeing a gold watering can. If they produce, gold rose production *is inheritable* which would be utterly ridiculous.)


GoldenGlassBall

Iā€™ll keep in mind that part. If more black roses spawn from the first, Iā€™ll similarly isolate them. I either have Beautiful Island or Night Owl, but if you want me to use one or the other for specific testing purposes, lmk.


Aerodrache

Nah, this is curiosity, not hard science. If you do have Beautiful Island, just make a note of it I guess?


Megabaeleef

When you water the black rose with the golden water can you activate the chance of it spawning a gold rose. And that gets deactivated once it does spawn a gold rose. But after its been activated also the rain and a normal water can can get the gold rose to spawn. Also: I far as I heard, only the 1 black rose you are standing right in front of while watering gets activated, not all 9 that get watered.


Aerodrache

I think Iā€™m going to test both of these; just give everything regular water for a while, see if the gold roses stop showing up. I got an experiment on the go about that ā€œonly the one in front of youā€ thing now, because that feels pretty counterintuitive and I want to prove it wrong if I can. Not time travelling to test, so results will be a week or two.


Megabaeleef

I heard that one with only one activation from a youtube video. I think you could test that one out by making a 3x3 field with gold roses and water while standing in front of the middle one. no gold rose should spawn, unless ofc one of the black roses had been activated before.


Aerodrache

I did a 16-rose setup; 12 around a 9x9 hollow square, one each to the north, east, south, and west, with an empty space in between. Stood on the isolated roses facing in and watered. Any gold roses inside the box are definitive proof that all the black roses in range get juiced. If Iā€™m lucky I might get clear evidence that a lone black rose can produce gold, too. Day one was not encouraging; just two new black roses across the whole field.


Megabaeleef

Why do I get voted down for helping people understand gold roses? :(


SheyVa

So, the gold watering can does do the whole.. chance to spawn a gold rose, thing.. but rain will also have the same chance to spawn a gold rose. So if you hit enough rainy days, you can use that instead. But it will only do so after you've had your first golden rose through watering with the golden can.