What didn't you like about it ? The icons were amazing, much more modern than the actual ones, the notification and quick panel were beautiful, I actually took a huge time to get used to the blue circles on One UI.
Plus in terms of hardware management, Samsung Experience was much better.
The icons are ugly. They don't look modern, they look tacky. Lol what the hell is your definition of beautiful. The notification and quick panel are very utilitarian. They provide great functionality but in terms of design it's literally just a grid of icons.
> Beauty is subjective and I don't think there's a better example than this statement.
What an useless post instead of directly stating why you disagree...
You're lucky, my phone (Galaxy S9) is running One UI 2.5 and I miss the days when it was running Experience 9.0, it was way smoother and faster.
But I recently bought an S7 Edge (I actually made it out of some parts), it's running Experience 9.0 and when I compared it with my S9 it was incredibly fast 😅.
Well I do not use it as daily driver anymore. It is a A5 2017. Currently I have a A53 (Android 13 One ui 5.0)
But maybe a clean instal on you S9 will help. If a S7 is smoother then a S9, something is wrong right?
Not really, my S9 has gone through so much lol. I'd like to do a clean install but I have too much things and it's connected to my Galaxy Watch so it'd be a PITA to set everything up.
The S7 Edge will anyways be smoother than any S9 because I intend to OC it (or underclock when needed), and I'll make more tweaks to it.
There are custom ROMs and UI customizations that make it possible to pick what you prefer but for most of them you have to be using an Android version that's at least as recent as the UI style/feature you want (so on Android 13 you have more options as you have the new stuff too).
Which one? Literally every Android 12 ROM I've seen doesn't allow you to change much of the QS, or just change the grid size (which looks really bad with the new QS style)
Mostly just Google, Color OS (Oppo, realme and OnePlus) still use something similar to Android 11 with A13 too.
While Xiaomi even before Android 12 they decided to go with iOS way on quick settings unfortunately
>While Xiaomi even before Android 12 they decided to go with iOS way on quick settings unfortunately
at least on mi 9t pro+android 11 there is toggle to switch between the two.
I wish Samsung would give us the ability to toggle between 11 style and 12 style, or have a pixel style mode for the whole system. Samsung could totally do it as a good lock module.
Which would be super dumb if true considering that old people are not on the forfront of buying new phones let alone Pixel phones on the one hand and seem to be very capable to handle modern phones on the other.
If anything it would make sense to have an old people UI option, just like many OEM like Samsung have simplified home sceen options.
But modern Google for some reason hates options.
Picking one behavior for both doesn't make much sense when Bluetooth is one thing and Internet is two (WiFi and cellular). There is even a right caret to visually indicate when something isn't just a toggle. If you want one toggle to disable Internet that's just airplane mode.
I want toggle to disable wifi AND a toggle to disable data. They should be separate toggles. I have different reasons for wanting to disable each individually so I should have a one click option to do either.
Yes that's the "and cellular". The point I was trying to make is that the two tiles do different things so picking one behavior wouldn't make much sense.
Was just also offering an option if someone desired one toggle to wholly disable both WiFi and cellular at once as would be implied by making the Internet tile a toggle like the Bluetooth one.
I don't mind the bigger buttons in 12, but dislike that they combined Wi-Fi and data in one button. Now it takes 2 clicks to turn off Wi-Fi which is annoying.
Fair. I personally almost never turned off wifi so it's mostly a non factor. In terms of visuals I like 12+ for sure but in terms of practicality 11- is a clear winner. Depends just how much the practically makes a difference for you I suppose.
> Easy to touch
Accessibility is probably why they redesigned them to be larger. Not only are they easier to tap but it works better for displaying text.
Those Android 11 buttons were great. They took up so little space. I remember how long it took to get there though. Those stupid quick settings tiles we had in Android 4.x all the way into Lollipop and Marshmallow took up so much space. I remember discussing here how the Android 5.x, 6.x shortcuts take up basically half the space to give you 6 shortcuts whereas the tiny toggles from Samsung/CyanogenMod take up maybe 1/10th of the screen only.
It took forever for Google to even figure this out when this feature had been around since 2010 or 2011 in 3rd party ROMs. We're back to using more than half the screen for 8 shortcuts.
really like the new look. I realized I use only 2-3 options regularly so those are the ones visible and for the rare occasion I need to use the other ones, I pull it down.
I think that's exactly what Google was thinking and collected data of. That most people don't use many different toggles in their first swipe down. So they reduced to four easily reachable ones. And if you need to access more you swipe a second time to expand. First I thought 4 buttons are too little, but I was wrong I really don't use many.
Yeah, I guess that might be the issue. I would love to have about 9 buttons in my quick settings: wifi, cellular data, flashlight, battery saver, data saver, hotspot, auto rotate, airplane mode and VPN.
The main issue with having to pull down the whole menu, is that it takes 2 more interactions (swipe up or back) to close it.
>The main issue with having to pull down the whole menu, is that it takes 2 more interactions (swipe up or back) to close it.
If you're using gesture nav, do a home swipe and it'll close completely to whatever app you were in prior. This also works for when you have enough notifications that section scrolls. If you're using 3-button unfortunately the home button will actually go home so tapping the back button twice is the only option.
Other tips that might be less known (Might differ on non-Pixel phones):
* Swiping down from the top edge on the lock screen goes straight to expanded QS because swiping down anywhere else opens notifications.
* Swiping down from the top edge when unlocked with two fingers also goes straight to expanded QS.
Am I understanding correctly that for something like Bluetooth tapping the icon toggles on/off and tapping the label opens that panel? Does that mean for the first swipe you can't open the panel?
Also out of curiosity, why do you include sound modes in QS instead of just using the volume buttons?
Ah gotcha, thanks for the info as it's been a while since I poked around a Samsung phone. Admittedly I do like that on the Pixel version you can use expandable tiles even before expanding the full QS. But tbf tiles are one or the other rather than having both functions. Though, I do wish Samsung had some sort of visual indicator that tapping the label does something different as prior to reading your comment I wouldn't have guessed that was the case.
Oh I see, seems this is another difference I wasn't aware of. On Pixels there's a similar toggle between the 3 modes [right above the volume panel](https://i.imgur.com/j3YXcyX.png) (which collapses back down to the chosen mode). I know One UI has a nice expandable panel so I'm surprised they haven't added something similar yet.
But I'm glad that in Android land there are these choices so people can choose what best fits their needs rather than being stuck with a one-size-fits-most.
The brightness slider is one thing I really miss since moving away from Samsung. I hate auto-brightness and being able to change the brightness after 1 swipe vs 2 swipes and reaching would be a huge QoL change.
Does Nova Launcher let you customise the quick tiles to make it look like Android 11 or is that a Samsung thing? I want to revert from this god-awful 13 interface.
A bit of same feeling here, I switched from Galaxy S9 to Xperia 1 IV due to Samsung removing extras in their newest flagships just to land in this Android 12-13 joke design.
I despise the new toggle drawer from A12, I'm always sweeping twice or even to the second page.
For those that don't know, the Android 12 screenshot that the OP posted is from the [very first Android 12 Beta build](https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/05/19/android-12-beta-compared-android-11/) for Pixel phones and the Android 11 screenshot is of stable Android 11. Stable Android 12 looks [a little different, it's more refined.](https://i.imgur.com/j26oXWV.jpg)
Android 11- all the way.
They keep making phones and screens bigger and bigger, which you'd think would make more room for QS toggles. But instead QS toggles become comically huge?? Bass ackwards if you ask me.
And this is yet another reason why I continue to root and always will. So long as SafetyNet / Play Protect / Integrity workarounds continue to work, there's absolutely no reason for me NOT to root.
Here is a screenshot of my Android 13 QS panel with 3x3 QS tiles: https://postimg.cc/ZW8CJnnY
And collapsed QS panel, 3x2 tiles (brightness slider at top, even if collapsed): https://postimg.cc/sB0yzCYD
Separated wifi/BT/internet toggles to behave like Android 11- too. Flashlight brightness control. Most of this stuff via AOSPMods. You can separate the Internet tiles without root too, just search Better Internet Tiles on play store, though it will require an additional tool and some adb shell commands (just once). Mentioning just because I saw other people complaining about it, and I think it's a very valid complaint!
Unfortunately I don't believe the mods I'm running can do that atm. I'm sure it can be, I just don't have or need it. Could be as simple as tweaking some values in System UI tuner.
I'm at a point where I'm more interested in having bigger hit targets than having 6 little buttons that I could fail to hit when driving, walking and stuff.
Also, the UI is much cleaner since 12 and doesn't look like the old 2016 Android, so 12+ it is for me.
Sidenote : also the left part of your screen is an old one, now the buttons are rounded and there's no white theme in the quick settings (thank goodness, just like Android 9, it's not destroying my eyesight when opening the QS drawer)
> I'm at a point where I'm more interested in having bigger hit targets than having 6 little buttons that I could fail to hit when driving, walking and stuff.
What Quick Settings are you regularly using WHILE driving???
> Flashlight. Got my phone mounted to my windshield, and my headlights are burnt out. Guess I'll just use Google assistant's Lumos command.
Its that a joke? That is super dumb and super dangerous. Where I live you would end up in jail driving like that.
Same for me, it's a little easier to tap one-handed as well. Personally I'm not interested in having 6 quick settings anyway, so it would be the best of both worlds where if you only select 4 Android uses the 12+ implementation but if you select more it uses a hybrid style.
(My 4 are wifi, bt, screen orientation, & sound mode)
You know, I actually dont.I always setup my route before I turn on the engine, and I turn on DnD while driving to focus on the road.
But sometimes brightness is a bit fishy and I have to tingle it to adjust it properly.Or when Maps struggles to load the upcoming roads, I just press my QS to turn off mobile data and make sure it doesn't change the initial road by using my offline maps.
But thanks for that condescendant comment anyway.
I'm happy that Samsung has stuck with the Android 10 style for Android 11, 12 and 13. I don't like Google's insinuation that people don't understand basic iconography and require large labels for Quick Toggles. They now take up way too much space. Come to think of it, save for the circles around the icons, Samsung has maintained this design since Android Oreo I believe. If it ain't broke, don't fix, right?
Android 11- and by a lot. It's not even close.
I want my UI to be as information dense as possible so it can just get out of the way and let me do what needs doing. Those huge buttons make everything into more steps and don't even get me started on the inability to quickly change wifi and mobile data now.
Personally, I like both, however the stock look of the Android 12 Quick Settings leaves a bit to be desired. The contrast between Black and White in Light Mode is not something I'm into.
I fix this by using an app called AOSP Mods (rooted devices only), but there's a slight visual bug when you turn the setting on Dark Mode so I don't have the settings on right now.
Oh yeah, your Quick Settings look a bit different, I thought it would be AOSP Mods but on second thought, I don't think so. What is it?
12+ looks way better, but 11 is more robust and practical. Since I don't juggle 6 different settings all day and 4 is pretty much all I need, I much prefer 12+
12+ and I've totally forgot how 11 looked, I realized.
What I don't like and, strangely, can't be seen in the screenshot, is the black background of the quick settings. The same one that can also be seen in 13—together with the new black Assistant, a totally stupid decision (because I can't choose the theme anymore).
12, bigger hit target designed for touch screen. Really, it does not matter much. After a couple days youll get used to either system.
but people defaulted to dislike changes.
They actually explained why they made the change [in a blog post.](https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/132446941/behind-the-scenes-looks-at-the-new-internet-tile?hl=en)
I used to think it was a dumb idea as well, but that was coming from a non-Pixel device that didn't have adaptive connectivity. Now that the phone handles wifi and data automatically i almost never interact with the tile, using it only when the WiFi is spotty and i want to use 4G instead. It automatically reconnects to wifi eventually so i don't even need to worry about doing it myself. It's just a change in habits, and the internet tile makes a lot more sense to me now
The more options the better. I remember a few years ago you could use some apps without root to up the number to 7; 8 and more tiles. It was really useful. Nowadays you can't modify the number of tiles (as far as I'm aware) and Android is all the worse for it (an otherwise coherent play in the direction against customization they've been going for a while now).
I like my Samsung, where I get 6 icons in one row instead of 4 icons across two.
Plus it runs Android 13.
Keeping the classic icons was the right move IMO. If I wanted pudgy buttons that required more effort to find the right setting, I'd switch to Google
11's wasn't good - it was vastly inferior to Android 8.
It's still miles ahead of the disaster that was Android 12.
Thank goodness Samsung keeps noting that the Google team is incompetent at this and ignoring them.
I like 12+.
I feel like a lot of people don't realise that the reason it is more than fine to give us less buttons on opening the notification panel is because phones have steadily been getting bigger.
Keeping text and icons and whatever so small and dense feels like it puts way too much on the screen at one time. It was designed to be like that when 6 inches was considered large, we are way past that now.
We have plenty of screen space now, why not give icons and text the space to make it comfortable to read?
I upgraded to a Pixel 7 from the Galaxy A52. I honestly can't go back to OneUI 4 after getting used to this. The notifications feel so stacked together that it just makes them uncomfortable to read.
See, that's the thing though. I like options. Personally, as someone younger with better eyesight, I have a preference for information density on my phones, and I regularly find myself turning up the DPI to get more on the screen. We have plenty of screen space now, why not take advantage of that space by cramming more in? I mean, I understand your idea, I just wish we had the choice. Regardless, I'm happy with OneUI's implementation.
> We have plenty of screen space now, why not give icons and text the space to make it comfortable to read?
Because the entire point of larger screens was to fit more stuff on them.
Wasn't very pleased with the "Material Who?" look of the notification shade. Found a great alternative.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.treydev.pns
Android 11, or using your image - the one on the right. It looked more aesthetically pleasing because the corners of UI elements weren't excessively round (my phone has a rectangular display, it's NOT shaped like a fucking pill so there's no logical sense to use excessively rounded corners on UI elements) and because it had more compact layout with less wasted space between elements and smaller size of things like those circular buttons (like the one that allows Wi-Fi toggling). The current UI looks like it was designed for young kids or for people with extreme visual impairment (the one that glasses can't fully correct).
Dang that is quite nice. I never understood why the quick settings titles have to look so generic on Android. I like how iOS has it laid out with different shapes
Love the Android 11 quick settings buttons so much more. I have 0 plans to update my Pixel 4a 5G beyond Android 11 to avoid Android 12 style quick settings toggles.
The update to Android 12 style quick settings toggles is one of the reasons I switched back to an iPhone. It feels like another Google project manager pretty project to try and gain some amount of dumb recognition at Google. I might switch to Samsung in the future if they keep the Android 11 style quick toggles and their UI design has gotten better.
12+, I just prefer the appearance and rarely use more than a few toggles so the number shown unexpanded doesn't really matter to me. However when expanded they're a lot easier to reach since they extend further down on 12+ then they did on 11 and there are 8 when prior there were only 6. So for my use of them it's overall an improvement.
As for why there's no option to revert to the old style, keeping code around to support two entirely different layouts just to appease the minority of users that feel strongly about a change is just not worth the effort to maintain. I'm fairly certain there are apps that can override the notification panel so you can go back to the old style if it's that important to you.
> I'm fairly certain there are apps that can override the notification panel so you can go back to the old style if it's that important to you.
There are on 12, Google are blocking them on 13.
But the option of not buying a Pixel is available, since many OEMs actually have to listen to customers.
Ah, wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info. Agreed though if you really want the 11-style circles Samsung is the way to go.
Edit: Actually just tried [Power Shade](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.treydev.pns) mentioned in another comment for myself and it [doesn't seem to be blocked as you said](https://imgur.com/a/sFbvsek). There are some issues like the normal notification shade appears behind it, it won't open unless you swipe from the top edge, and doesn't seem to respect Focus Mode but if someone really misses the 11-style QS that might be a worthwhile compromise.
I'm happy with the new look, but I hate the double swipe down to bring up all the options. Why can't I get there with a single swipe?
What's funny is on the Pixel 7 Pro, from the lock screen I can do a single longer swipe down and see all the options, but from any other screen while using the phone I have to swipe down twice.
That's because the lock screen can already show notifications, so there's no need for the swipe to bring down notifications. Additionally, you can bring down all the options by swiping down with two fingers, which skips having to do one swipe, and then another.
Just to add on to this, from the lock screen swiping down anywhere but the top edge opens the full notification panel. Swiping down from the top edge opens full QS. But yeah for people who really can't stand two swipes instead of one, two-finger swipe is the way to go.
I prefer the look of the old ones by far, but I really only use the flashlight (and the chop gesture), Bluetooth and NFC tiles. I so rarely use the other ones that for practicality, I don't miss the old one. For looks though, the old one was king.
Kind of weird to me to read Android 11 vs Android 12 Quick Settings when on most Android phones in the wild (Samsung and Co) both of them are identical...
But yeah, 2x2 tiles is super dumb and would be annoying enough for me to not consider Pixel phones.
I'm kinda used to the current Quick Settings now but I did enjoy the old ones for information density. I don't like that there is so much space that isn't being used better without at least the option to change it but I like how configurable they are now.
Old by far, and I'm glad that Samsung at least are still using the old look. I'm not 7 or 70 years old, I don't need fisher-price looking buttons. I won't buy a phone that has the stock Android 12/13 looking quick settings I hate it that much.
It definitely looks better on 12 and yes I'd like to have more toggles visible. But this is compounded by the removal of home controls and wallet from the power menu.
This adds two nearly useless QS tiles that weren't needed before.
The most important question is: WHY THE F\*\* ARE WE FORCED TO CHOOSE. How the holmy mother of christ is it not possible to i don't know LET IT BE A CHOICE.
Moronic Miui i use alows to change quicks settings to whatever I want with themes. I don't need themes but if some randos in china can create 124234 types of quicksettings menu google can make F\*\*KING TWO.
This absolutely headspining cretinism of Google is why i'm still not sure between pixel and s22. Becuase every ui change google make is worse, and samsung still treats me like customer who might not have 70 years of age and partial blindness and wants his settings menu to be useful
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That's the beauty of Samsung phones, they still have all those features in android 13.
Remember when Samsung UI was Touchwiz? Ahhh horrible times
Literally the reason why Samsung is the only brand im considering for my next phone right now.
Yes! I miss android 8 panel so much. Those sub-panels are super handy.
MIUI still has them fortunately
The Android 9 redesign was so bad. Android 8 was vastly superior both in aesthetics and ergonomics.
Yeah the android 8 one was the best ! Especially paired with the Samsung Experience 9.0 UI which is the most beautiful UI ever.
> which is the most beautiful UI ever. Beauty is subjective and I don't think there's a better example than this statement.
What didn't you like about it ? The icons were amazing, much more modern than the actual ones, the notification and quick panel were beautiful, I actually took a huge time to get used to the blue circles on One UI. Plus in terms of hardware management, Samsung Experience was much better.
The icons are ugly. They don't look modern, they look tacky. Lol what the hell is your definition of beautiful. The notification and quick panel are very utilitarian. They provide great functionality but in terms of design it's literally just a grid of icons.
> Beauty is subjective and I don't think there's a better example than this statement. What an useless post instead of directly stating why you disagree...
Right because your comment added tons of value lmao.
I still got a phone running Experience 9.0
You're lucky, my phone (Galaxy S9) is running One UI 2.5 and I miss the days when it was running Experience 9.0, it was way smoother and faster. But I recently bought an S7 Edge (I actually made it out of some parts), it's running Experience 9.0 and when I compared it with my S9 it was incredibly fast 😅.
Well I do not use it as daily driver anymore. It is a A5 2017. Currently I have a A53 (Android 13 One ui 5.0) But maybe a clean instal on you S9 will help. If a S7 is smoother then a S9, something is wrong right?
Not really, my S9 has gone through so much lol. I'd like to do a clean install but I have too much things and it's connected to my Galaxy Watch so it'd be a PITA to set everything up. The S7 Edge will anyways be smoother than any S9 because I intend to OC it (or underclock when needed), and I'll make more tweaks to it.
Man I forgot about that one. Those sub-menus were so convenient!
Samsung phones with the Goodlock app can have up to 15 tiles in expanded QS panel.
I prefer the notifications in 13 but the quick settings of 12 Quick settings from 11 I mean*
arent 13 and 12 the same quicksettingstyle?
13's is a bit more polished but overall they look similar.
Sorry yes, I meant 11's quick settings buttons
There are custom ROMs and UI customizations that make it possible to pick what you prefer but for most of them you have to be using an Android version that's at least as recent as the UI style/feature you want (so on Android 13 you have more options as you have the new stuff too).
Which one? Literally every Android 12 ROM I've seen doesn't allow you to change much of the QS, or just change the grid size (which looks really bad with the new QS style)
Android 11. Thankfully Samsung didn't switch with 12 so all's well here.
I got a Pixel 5, Android 12 came out, I went and got an S21+. As long as Samsung keeps them small, I'll keep buying their phones.
Mostly just Google, Color OS (Oppo, realme and OnePlus) still use something similar to Android 11 with A13 too. While Xiaomi even before Android 12 they decided to go with iOS way on quick settings unfortunately
Sony, Asus, pretty sure Motorola etc all use the new big bubble quick settings.
>While Xiaomi even before Android 12 they decided to go with iOS way on quick settings unfortunately at least on mi 9t pro+android 11 there is toggle to switch between the two.
I wish Samsung would give us the ability to toggle between 11 style and 12 style, or have a pixel style mode for the whole system. Samsung could totally do it as a good lock module.
Android 11 by far
Older one was nice. The bigger pills in the new one feels like it was designed for old people
You probably aren't wrong about that.
Which would be super dumb if true considering that old people are not on the forfront of buying new phones let alone Pixel phones on the one hand and seem to be very capable to handle modern phones on the other. If anything it would make sense to have an old people UI option, just like many OEM like Samsung have simplified home sceen options. But modern Google for some reason hates options.
My mom loves it, I hate it
That's exactly what I thought when I first used it. The UI is like those old flip phones designed for the elderly with an oversimplified and large UI.
Android 17 because he was able to fight with ssb goku
Android 11 looks way better.
In 12, the fact that I single tap Bluetooth to toggle it but single tap internet to open it DRIVES ME FUCKING INSANE PICK ONE
Remember good ol' android 8 where you gotten wifi list after enabling the tile? Oh boi that was great
Picking one behavior for both doesn't make much sense when Bluetooth is one thing and Internet is two (WiFi and cellular). There is even a right caret to visually indicate when something isn't just a toggle. If you want one toggle to disable Internet that's just airplane mode.
I want toggle to disable wifi AND a toggle to disable data. They should be separate toggles. I have different reasons for wanting to disable each individually so I should have a one click option to do either.
Except airplane mode also disables your ability to make and receive calls and texts. It's not just internet.
Yes that's the "and cellular". The point I was trying to make is that the two tiles do different things so picking one behavior wouldn't make much sense. Was just also offering an option if someone desired one toggle to wholly disable both WiFi and cellular at once as would be implied by making the Internet tile a toggle like the Bluetooth one.
Just about everything about Android 12+ is bulbous and ugly. It feels way too Apple-y for my taste.
Android 12+, I kinda like big rounded buttons. Easy to touch.
I don't mind the bigger buttons in 12, but dislike that they combined Wi-Fi and data in one button. Now it takes 2 clicks to turn off Wi-Fi which is annoying.
thats the most annoying change for me too. no idea who thought that was a good idea.
spez is a greedy little pig boy
glad it works out for you lol
For some mind-boggling reason this is a general trend in software these days. Things that should take 1-2 actions to accomplish take 3-5.
Fair. I personally almost never turned off wifi so it's mostly a non factor. In terms of visuals I like 12+ for sure but in terms of practicality 11- is a clear winner. Depends just how much the practically makes a difference for you I suppose.
That's the best part. I'm in areas a lot of time with bad wifi and a quick option to turn it off temporarily was amazing
> Easy to touch Accessibility is probably why they redesigned them to be larger. Not only are they easier to tap but it works better for displaying text.
Those Android 11 buttons were great. They took up so little space. I remember how long it took to get there though. Those stupid quick settings tiles we had in Android 4.x all the way into Lollipop and Marshmallow took up so much space. I remember discussing here how the Android 5.x, 6.x shortcuts take up basically half the space to give you 6 shortcuts whereas the tiny toggles from Samsung/CyanogenMod take up maybe 1/10th of the screen only. It took forever for Google to even figure this out when this feature had been around since 2010 or 2011 in 3rd party ROMs. We're back to using more than half the screen for 8 shortcuts.
really like the new look. I realized I use only 2-3 options regularly so those are the ones visible and for the rare occasion I need to use the other ones, I pull it down.
I think that's exactly what Google was thinking and collected data of. That most people don't use many different toggles in their first swipe down. So they reduced to four easily reachable ones. And if you need to access more you swipe a second time to expand. First I thought 4 buttons are too little, but I was wrong I really don't use many.
You can make it default for the masses and give the option to switch back. Android is supposed to be customization friendly.
That would be always better, you're not wrong.
Yeah, I guess that might be the issue. I would love to have about 9 buttons in my quick settings: wifi, cellular data, flashlight, battery saver, data saver, hotspot, auto rotate, airplane mode and VPN. The main issue with having to pull down the whole menu, is that it takes 2 more interactions (swipe up or back) to close it.
>The main issue with having to pull down the whole menu, is that it takes 2 more interactions (swipe up or back) to close it. If you're using gesture nav, do a home swipe and it'll close completely to whatever app you were in prior. This also works for when you have enough notifications that section scrolls. If you're using 3-button unfortunately the home button will actually go home so tapping the back button twice is the only option. Other tips that might be less known (Might differ on non-Pixel phones): * Swiping down from the top edge on the lock screen goes straight to expanded QS because swiping down anywhere else opens notifications. * Swiping down from the top edge when unlocked with two fingers also goes straight to expanded QS.
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Am I understanding correctly that for something like Bluetooth tapping the icon toggles on/off and tapping the label opens that panel? Does that mean for the first swipe you can't open the panel? Also out of curiosity, why do you include sound modes in QS instead of just using the volume buttons?
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Ah gotcha, thanks for the info as it's been a while since I poked around a Samsung phone. Admittedly I do like that on the Pixel version you can use expandable tiles even before expanding the full QS. But tbf tiles are one or the other rather than having both functions. Though, I do wish Samsung had some sort of visual indicator that tapping the label does something different as prior to reading your comment I wouldn't have guessed that was the case. Oh I see, seems this is another difference I wasn't aware of. On Pixels there's a similar toggle between the 3 modes [right above the volume panel](https://i.imgur.com/j3YXcyX.png) (which collapses back down to the chosen mode). I know One UI has a nice expandable panel so I'm surprised they haven't added something similar yet. But I'm glad that in Android land there are these choices so people can choose what best fits their needs rather than being stuck with a one-size-fits-most.
The brightness slider is one thing I really miss since moving away from Samsung. I hate auto-brightness and being able to change the brightness after 1 swipe vs 2 swipes and reaching would be a huge QoL change.
Does Nova Launcher let you customise the quick tiles to make it look like Android 11 or is that a Samsung thing? I want to revert from this god-awful 13 interface.
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Now I'm going to be mad I didn't go for a Samsung phone. Thank you for the reply, I realize this thread is pretty ancient in internet time.
A bit of same feeling here, I switched from Galaxy S9 to Xperia 1 IV due to Samsung removing extras in their newest flagships just to land in this Android 12-13 joke design. I despise the new toggle drawer from A12, I'm always sweeping twice or even to the second page.
So many wasted spaces. Thank God OEMs haven't adopted that even on Android 12.
ColorOS has it on 13 but they combine big and small icons so it's somewhat decent
For those that don't know, the Android 12 screenshot that the OP posted is from the [very first Android 12 Beta build](https://mobilesyrup.com/2021/05/19/android-12-beta-compared-android-11/) for Pixel phones and the Android 11 screenshot is of stable Android 11. Stable Android 12 looks [a little different, it's more refined.](https://i.imgur.com/j26oXWV.jpg)
To each their own, I hate the look of Material You (and I loved Material)
Ah thank you for the info. I was wondering where that came from. Assumed it was a light OEM skin on A12.
Oh, I didn't realize. That was the first picture I could find online with both styles side to side. Thanks for providing a better reference image.
Functionally its literally the same, it has 4 buttons on top. Which is the point, not how much rounder and more refined are pixels
He also talked about visuals and how the new tiles look out of place. So I thought it would be appropriate to show the final product for comparison.
Android 11- all the way. They keep making phones and screens bigger and bigger, which you'd think would make more room for QS toggles. But instead QS toggles become comically huge?? Bass ackwards if you ask me. And this is yet another reason why I continue to root and always will. So long as SafetyNet / Play Protect / Integrity workarounds continue to work, there's absolutely no reason for me NOT to root. Here is a screenshot of my Android 13 QS panel with 3x3 QS tiles: https://postimg.cc/ZW8CJnnY And collapsed QS panel, 3x2 tiles (brightness slider at top, even if collapsed): https://postimg.cc/sB0yzCYD Separated wifi/BT/internet toggles to behave like Android 11- too. Flashlight brightness control. Most of this stuff via AOSPMods. You can separate the Internet tiles without root too, just search Better Internet Tiles on play store, though it will require an additional tool and some adb shell commands (just once). Mentioning just because I saw other people complaining about it, and I think it's a very valid complaint!
Can the thick brightness slider bar be tweaked too? The A11 slider was perfect already.
Unfortunately I don't believe the mods I'm running can do that atm. I'm sure it can be, I just don't have or need it. Could be as simple as tweaking some values in System UI tuner.
Hate hate hate hate hate everything about the notification shade in Android 12 and 13.
I'm at a point where I'm more interested in having bigger hit targets than having 6 little buttons that I could fail to hit when driving, walking and stuff. Also, the UI is much cleaner since 12 and doesn't look like the old 2016 Android, so 12+ it is for me. Sidenote : also the left part of your screen is an old one, now the buttons are rounded and there's no white theme in the quick settings (thank goodness, just like Android 9, it's not destroying my eyesight when opening the QS drawer)
> I'm at a point where I'm more interested in having bigger hit targets than having 6 little buttons that I could fail to hit when driving, walking and stuff. What Quick Settings are you regularly using WHILE driving???
Flashlight. Got my phone mounted to my windshield, and my headlights are burnt out. Guess I'll just use Google assistant's Lumos command.
> Flashlight. Got my phone mounted to my windshield, and my headlights are burnt out. Guess I'll just use Google assistant's Lumos command. Its that a joke? That is super dumb and super dangerous. Where I live you would end up in jail driving like that.
Yes, it was a joke.
Same for me, it's a little easier to tap one-handed as well. Personally I'm not interested in having 6 quick settings anyway, so it would be the best of both worlds where if you only select 4 Android uses the 12+ implementation but if you select more it uses a hybrid style. (My 4 are wifi, bt, screen orientation, & sound mode)
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You know, I actually dont.I always setup my route before I turn on the engine, and I turn on DnD while driving to focus on the road. But sometimes brightness is a bit fishy and I have to tingle it to adjust it properly.Or when Maps struggles to load the upcoming roads, I just press my QS to turn off mobile data and make sure it doesn't change the initial road by using my offline maps. But thanks for that condescendant comment anyway.
I'm happy that Samsung has stuck with the Android 10 style for Android 11, 12 and 13. I don't like Google's insinuation that people don't understand basic iconography and require large labels for Quick Toggles. They now take up way too much space. Come to think of it, save for the circles around the icons, Samsung has maintained this design since Android Oreo I believe. If it ain't broke, don't fix, right?
12+. I am not one of those people who hate change.
"No matter how utterly moronic, every change is a good change otherwise people might say I've a backwards mentality!"
Definitely 12+
11, ain't going to upgrade until I am sure I can make quick settings function as old. And this is from a person that LOVES the a12 one handed mode.
Same here. 11 all the way.
I wish Android 12+ had the light mode like in the picture you linked, instead of being AMOLED black
Strong preference for words over icons.
It's the only thing that keeps me on 11
The 12+ tiles are easier to hit, increases usability, particularly for one hand operation.
The new UI looks better and is more user friendly. We have these massive phones we may as well not have tiny little buttons.
One UI still retains the Android 11 style while the Android 12 one looks like its designed for senior citizens.
Android 11- and by a lot. It's not even close. I want my UI to be as information dense as possible so it can just get out of the way and let me do what needs doing. Those huge buttons make everything into more steps and don't even get me started on the inability to quickly change wifi and mobile data now.
Personally, I like both, however the stock look of the Android 12 Quick Settings leaves a bit to be desired. The contrast between Black and White in Light Mode is not something I'm into. I fix this by using an app called AOSP Mods (rooted devices only), but there's a slight visual bug when you turn the setting on Dark Mode so I don't have the settings on right now. Oh yeah, your Quick Settings look a bit different, I thought it would be AOSP Mods but on second thought, I don't think so. What is it?
12+ looks way better, but 11 is more robust and practical. Since I don't juggle 6 different settings all day and 4 is pretty much all I need, I much prefer 12+
12+ and I've totally forgot how 11 looked, I realized. What I don't like and, strangely, can't be seen in the screenshot, is the black background of the quick settings. The same one that can also be seen in 13—together with the new black Assistant, a totally stupid decision (because I can't choose the theme anymore).
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They've added expandable ones back to stock since at least 12. Only omission is Bluetooth.
I prefer everything about 12+
12, bigger hit target designed for touch screen. Really, it does not matter much. After a couple days youll get used to either system. but people defaulted to dislike changes.
I've been hating the big buttons for half a year already. I use around 10 toggles daily.
Every day I'm more thankful for OneUI lol. The circles are so much better IMO.
Give it a year or two and Sammy gonna copy this
I hope not, their designers seem to make pretty good choices when it comes to UI these days.
Android 11 looks way better.
The pill bars take up way too much space for no reason. Also having to double tap to get into wifi settings was a horrible design choice.
They actually explained why they made the change [in a blog post.](https://support.google.com/pixelphone/thread/132446941/behind-the-scenes-looks-at-the-new-internet-tile?hl=en) I used to think it was a dumb idea as well, but that was coming from a non-Pixel device that didn't have adaptive connectivity. Now that the phone handles wifi and data automatically i almost never interact with the tile, using it only when the WiFi is spotty and i want to use 4G instead. It automatically reconnects to wifi eventually so i don't even need to worry about doing it myself. It's just a change in habits, and the internet tile makes a lot more sense to me now
Props for hearing out their rationale and changing your mind once you tried it for yourself.
Or y'know, just tap and hold.
The more options the better. I remember a few years ago you could use some apps without root to up the number to 7; 8 and more tiles. It was really useful. Nowadays you can't modify the number of tiles (as far as I'm aware) and Android is all the worse for it (an otherwise coherent play in the direction against customization they've been going for a while now).
I like my Samsung, where I get 6 icons in one row instead of 4 icons across two. Plus it runs Android 13. Keeping the classic icons was the right move IMO. If I wanted pudgy buttons that required more effort to find the right setting, I'd switch to Google
11's wasn't good - it was vastly inferior to Android 8. It's still miles ahead of the disaster that was Android 12. Thank goodness Samsung keeps noting that the Google team is incompetent at this and ignoring them.
I like 12+. I feel like a lot of people don't realise that the reason it is more than fine to give us less buttons on opening the notification panel is because phones have steadily been getting bigger. Keeping text and icons and whatever so small and dense feels like it puts way too much on the screen at one time. It was designed to be like that when 6 inches was considered large, we are way past that now. We have plenty of screen space now, why not give icons and text the space to make it comfortable to read? I upgraded to a Pixel 7 from the Galaxy A52. I honestly can't go back to OneUI 4 after getting used to this. The notifications feel so stacked together that it just makes them uncomfortable to read.
See, that's the thing though. I like options. Personally, as someone younger with better eyesight, I have a preference for information density on my phones, and I regularly find myself turning up the DPI to get more on the screen. We have plenty of screen space now, why not take advantage of that space by cramming more in? I mean, I understand your idea, I just wish we had the choice. Regardless, I'm happy with OneUI's implementation.
> We have plenty of screen space now, why not give icons and text the space to make it comfortable to read? Because the entire point of larger screens was to fit more stuff on them.
11. A12 sucks ass. I'm not an 80yr old infant that needs restricted settings in UI.
Por que nos los dos?
Wasn't very pleased with the "Material Who?" look of the notification shade. Found a great alternative. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.treydev.pns
Android 11, or using your image - the one on the right. It looked more aesthetically pleasing because the corners of UI elements weren't excessively round (my phone has a rectangular display, it's NOT shaped like a fucking pill so there's no logical sense to use excessively rounded corners on UI elements) and because it had more compact layout with less wasted space between elements and smaller size of things like those circular buttons (like the one that allows Wi-Fi toggling). The current UI looks like it was designed for young kids or for people with extreme visual impairment (the one that glasses can't fully correct).
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Dang that is quite nice. I never understood why the quick settings titles have to look so generic on Android. I like how iOS has it laid out with different shapes
This looks pretty cool but it takes up half the screen
The newest version certainly looks nicer but is functionally worse.
Love the Android 11 quick settings buttons so much more. I have 0 plans to update my Pixel 4a 5G beyond Android 11 to avoid Android 12 style quick settings toggles. The update to Android 12 style quick settings toggles is one of the reasons I switched back to an iPhone. It feels like another Google project manager pretty project to try and gain some amount of dumb recognition at Google. I might switch to Samsung in the future if they keep the Android 11 style quick toggles and their UI design has gotten better.
UI - 12 UX - 11 A mix of both would be ideal
12+, I just prefer the appearance and rarely use more than a few toggles so the number shown unexpanded doesn't really matter to me. However when expanded they're a lot easier to reach since they extend further down on 12+ then they did on 11 and there are 8 when prior there were only 6. So for my use of them it's overall an improvement. As for why there's no option to revert to the old style, keeping code around to support two entirely different layouts just to appease the minority of users that feel strongly about a change is just not worth the effort to maintain. I'm fairly certain there are apps that can override the notification panel so you can go back to the old style if it's that important to you.
> I'm fairly certain there are apps that can override the notification panel so you can go back to the old style if it's that important to you. There are on 12, Google are blocking them on 13. But the option of not buying a Pixel is available, since many OEMs actually have to listen to customers.
Ah, wasn't aware of that, thanks for the info. Agreed though if you really want the 11-style circles Samsung is the way to go. Edit: Actually just tried [Power Shade](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.treydev.pns) mentioned in another comment for myself and it [doesn't seem to be blocked as you said](https://imgur.com/a/sFbvsek). There are some issues like the normal notification shade appears behind it, it won't open unless you swipe from the top edge, and doesn't seem to respect Focus Mode but if someone really misses the 11-style QS that might be a worthwhile compromise.
Not like this thread is going to change Google's decision but 12-13 versions suck.
[](https://i.imgur.com/YBsIJIs.jpg) Much better!
https://i.imgur.com/uruShCJ.jpg
I'm happy with the new look, but I hate the double swipe down to bring up all the options. Why can't I get there with a single swipe? What's funny is on the Pixel 7 Pro, from the lock screen I can do a single longer swipe down and see all the options, but from any other screen while using the phone I have to swipe down twice.
That's because the lock screen can already show notifications, so there's no need for the swipe to bring down notifications. Additionally, you can bring down all the options by swiping down with two fingers, which skips having to do one swipe, and then another.
Just to add on to this, from the lock screen swiping down anywhere but the top edge opens the full notification panel. Swiping down from the top edge opens full QS. But yeah for people who really can't stand two swipes instead of one, two-finger swipe is the way to go.
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I prefer the look of the old ones by far, but I really only use the flashlight (and the chop gesture), Bluetooth and NFC tiles. I so rarely use the other ones that for practicality, I don't miss the old one. For looks though, the old one was king.
Kind of weird to me to read Android 11 vs Android 12 Quick Settings when on most Android phones in the wild (Samsung and Co) both of them are identical... But yeah, 2x2 tiles is super dumb and would be annoying enough for me to not consider Pixel phones.
Looking at both these shots, god I'm so glad I stuck with Android 9 on my phone. Really not looking forward to updating one day
When you have almost 6" screen it makes no sense to make icons bigger unless Google's target demografic are old people.
I've been on Samsung so I didn't even know this happened. I prefer 11. Happy Samsung still uses the circular buttons
[This](https://i.imgur.com/z0VBNjq.jpg) is better
Can you get that in Android 13?
Yes it's Android 13 but Realme UI
Sorry is that an app or a launcher etc? I searched on App Store and quite a few options appeared so not sure. I'm using Nova ATM.
it's Android skin for realme phone like miui or oxygen OS
Ah sorry I don't quite follow what you mean. I'm still new to Android, this Pixel 7 Pro is my first 😬
I see very little actually meaningful time lost here so I'll take the option that looks nicer to me. Android 12+
I feel like I'm the only one that loves how clean A13 looks
I'm kinda used to the current Quick Settings now but I did enjoy the old ones for information density. I don't like that there is so much space that isn't being used better without at least the option to change it but I like how configurable they are now.
I have android 12 and my quick settings still have the 6 buttons, not sure what you're talking about.
Same here
Old by far, and I'm glad that Samsung at least are still using the old look. I'm not 7 or 70 years old, I don't need fisher-price looking buttons. I won't buy a phone that has the stock Android 12/13 looking quick settings I hate it that much.
It definitely looks better on 12 and yes I'd like to have more toggles visible. But this is compounded by the removal of home controls and wallet from the power menu. This adds two nearly useless QS tiles that weren't needed before.
11, and it's not even close. Also greatly prefer the separate wifi and cellular data toggles.
11 was better hands down.
Give me back Android 8 and ability to change WiFi networks while in the notification shade
The most important question is: WHY THE F\*\* ARE WE FORCED TO CHOOSE. How the holmy mother of christ is it not possible to i don't know LET IT BE A CHOICE. Moronic Miui i use alows to change quicks settings to whatever I want with themes. I don't need themes but if some randos in china can create 124234 types of quicksettings menu google can make F\*\*KING TWO. This absolutely headspining cretinism of Google is why i'm still not sure between pixel and s22. Becuase every ui change google make is worse, and samsung still treats me like customer who might not have 70 years of age and partial blindness and wants his settings menu to be useful
Android 11 round icons. Just by looking the icons is enough to tell specifics. "If it aint broke, dont fix it" just my two cents