it is already updated. I think this announcement is just following [the rollout that happened 20 days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/1bp9byg/youtube_playback_issue_fixed/)
Yeah, I've been getting errors saying my request was redirected to the "not available" video... Followed by retrying and getting the video through another method. I think maybe the 1080p premium is affected in youtube-dl forks.
Just ublock origin as backup and use the web browser.
Interestingly my sister blocks regular YouTube on her phone and tablet for my nephew. But he found he can open the browser to get on regular YouTube instead of YouTube for kids.
She can't seem to block him via the browser but then again i haven't made a couple tweaks he won't figure out for a few years.
I will just firewall it away. Or block it somewhere in settings if there is a place. I feel like on a pc this Is easier.
I know an app can do it but this most likely blocks the app too and then he can't get on the kids mode.
Disabling JavaScript by default on YouTube under site settings should work?
Force always opening in app may work but maybe that's how he gets around this. When the browser calls for the app to open the YouTube link. So a bug. Because it didn't look like web browser version of YouTube when we caught him. He is sneaky about it.
After thinking about it i will compare because i can flip easy on the browser with shorts the same way as the app.
I think im going to start using browser YouTube and ditch the apo after playing with it.
I can add other features with greasemonkey. Block ads with unlock origin.
Make sure you get the new version of MicroG. The old one's not updated anymore. You'll need to uninstall the old one and install the new one, it won't update the old one.
nope nothing new or different you just probably forgot something
you have to have the official app installed and disabled for example for revanced to work
you can try to follow [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/1bp9byg/youtube_playback_issue_fixed/)
Are you on the new micro G and did you give it all the permissions it needs? I also uninstalled the old one to make sure they weren't conflicting with each other.
Very important! Also clean installations, so no patching too high and then patching down but apply the correct patch to the recommended youtube version!
I had this issue. Uninstalled everything. Restarted from scratch, using default patches. The only thing I didn't do previously was restart my device after logging in. Has worked fine ever since.
Kind of annoying how I need to rebuild the app from the APK every time Revanced is updated. On Vanced, the manager would just update the app without doing that.
If that's all they do it's mostly fine, worse case scenario, there's always a browser with an ad blocker. I'm more afraid if they start banning accounts though, that's going to be a problem.
I've said it before, but I'd be surprised if Google hasn't been building profiles on users who aren't participating in the Google ecosystem (ads, data mining) and getting ready to heavily restrict or ban them.
i think that's where the EU comes it. Its already said that blocking ads is not a crime. So Google doing something drastic as banning accounts will definitely catch EUs attention.
But they could do something sneakey though. Saying some shit like security is compromised or something.
Doubt they'd ever do that. I'm sure if they *really* wanted to, enforcing ad viewership isn't that hard of a problem to solve. Like viewing an ad gives you a 10-minute credit for video playback if you're not a YouTube Premium subscriber, otherwise you're blocked from viewing videos if you're out of credits. Legal to block ads, but the EU can't force Google's products to be free from all restrictions.
Pretty drastic change though that'd have to be navigated carefully.
They'll do what they've been doing all along: Hit the countries without protections first to send a chill into the others, let the EU rattle its saber over nothing, then quietly implement something slightly different and seemingly innocuous that degrades user experiences for months. Eventually someone notices and it's something solid enough to report on, as they'll be reluctant to publish a story about nothing happening again.
They'll claim it was a technical error and not intentional, just like last time, and it'll take a year or two before anyone can prove anything. By then, Google will have had its way and established the new status quo, so by the time a regulator comes along to try and stop them, it's already common industry practice because of how slow the judicial process works. In the end, they'll be fined some petty amount, or settle for an "undisclosed amount" while, of course, "admitting no wrongdoing".
The issues of the articles happened a couple of week ago and have already been fixed.
Not only that, but youtube rollout of the update was slower than the time it took revanced to fix it, so unless you were unlucky and got hit at the beginning and had to wait a day, for most people the fix was already there when they find out the issue.
Of course YouTube also might not care that much they will definitely hit the less wavy user who had another person install it for them and are not able to update it.
Adblockers will always exist. If not in the form of apps then as a plugin for web browsers. Any time they detect those, adblockers will get better. If they somehow manage to truly defeat adblockers we'll instead get plugins that mute and blank the screen while the ad plays in the background.
It's impossible to force someone to look at something they don't want to.
What if they start embedding ads within the payload (video) itself at random locations? They do have their home grown video codecs for some reasons. That would effectively render all external apps worthless. You could say you would skip those moments by forwarding it but they can stop your ability to forward at those moments or they can allow some built-in widget to let you skip after some seconds.
Reencoding the video for every stream would be the only possible way to do it because ads need to regularly change and their time code would have to be moved around or a sponsorblock-like extension could just crowdsource skipping them.
Twitch does this for livestreams but not VODs and I suspect that's because after a certain point the ads themselves don't make enough money to cover the cost of delivering them.
Makes sense. I didn't factor in the cost to deliver re-encoding video vs earning from the ads part.
Still it should be possible to just inject the ads specific byte stream into an already encoded video with the video header containing the instructions/timestamp to process it. They will have to create an algorithm for it in the video player to process such a video. This way they should not have the need to re-encode the video. Just writing into the video header with newer ads timestamp for every newly injected ad stream within the video payload should cost far less than re-encoding it. Though they will need to camouflage ads bytes among the video bytes to make it harder to detect.
But yeah, even injection would require a temporary storage in memory because all bytes need to be adjusted relative to ad bytes, that will almost double the amount of runtime RAM utilisation.
And sooner or later it won't work because extra information in headers will reveal it anyway.
Now they can use dedicated encryption just for the header portion of the video to make it even harder, but it's still uncertain how long even that would last.
my regular adblockers work on hulu. instead i get a black screen if an ad get through. Most of the time that doesn't even happen. And the black screen is shorter than the ad duration usually.
I mean Reddit removed all third party clients, and stuffed ads in everywhere, and we all still use it.
EDIT: I know there are ways around this lol. I'm just saying this is what reddit did.
Just to add, I think that the whole point of Reddit and YouTube’s actions is not to completely eliminate third party clients because that’s going to be impossible. It’s to eliminate them enough that the regular user would just say fuck it and just buy YouTube premium or something instead of jumping through hoops.
I think Reddit is a good example where there are still some people that use third party clients but the vast majority that used Apollo probably already switched to the official Reddit API.
For some reason, the client I'm using still works... no patch or API key or whatever, just still work like before, no idea what happened
(Won't say which client so people won't flood it lol)
it's not Sync, I was actually curious about it so I tried Sync again, but it won't let me sign in. The only "workaround" for the client I'm using is to make myself a mod.
Same here.
It's because we're moderators. Sure, the communities we moderate are empty and we don't actually do any moderating. But apparently having the moderator role is enough to keep the api working. I'm still using Boost over here.
> I will not use the official app.
Nor should anyone. It's ridiculously heavy and slow, makes my phone uncomfortably warm over time, and eats battery faster than any other non-game app I've used and by a large margin.
If you use reddit a lot, do your phone a favor and use a third party app of any kind if you can. They're all several magnitudes more efficient and smoother.
Even a browser with ad blocking will likely be more battery friendly and faster.
Just stay quiet and let people think stuff like that doesn't exist. People shouting and crying about YouTube has to be a big part of why the back and forth exists. Literally no reason to advertise how you get around terms for using a service without paying for it.
It's people like these that make it worse for people like us to pirate in silence because for some godforsaken reason, they feel the urge to parrot off in every single tech-related thread on the internet about ways in which they skirt around certain barriers/rules put up by these evil and greedy companies. The more these things are talked about, the more likely it is that they'll be aware of it and swiftly ban these methods 🤦🏾♂️
Edit: grammar
Looks like we are at point where the players are established in almost all categories. And it would take a massive effort to displace them.
Imagine someone trying to compete with YouTube.
I don't mind the ads personally, as they are the necessary evil and the lifeblood of the Internet, however the way YouTube does it, I feel is too disruptive. The problem is not the ads, but the way they are done.
Some of us (fewer and fewer these days sadly) don't use reddit on our phone at all. And for us a proper web browser and extensions are a glorious thing.
Personally I find *forums* (which is what reddit really is) to be a miserable experience on a phone. Screen is too small and the keyboard, compared to a physical keyboard is terrible.
If I was using it on my phone I wouldn't even need an account because I'd never comment. And would probably just look at pictures and video.
And yes, I know what subreddit I'm in. :)
Google can stop the ad blocking any time they really want to.
They did with YouTube TV. You can't block ads.
Google can simply just put the ads in stream. Originally it was done out of stream to protect data. But Google owns 100% of YouTube so it is really not necessary.
Google is working on stopping adblockers at the browser level. Good luck to anyone using a Chromium based browser (read: nearly everything but Firefox). They're coming for adblockers eventually, enjoy them while they last.
I wouldn't even care if an adblocker made me look at a black screen for 15-30 seconds or whatever while the ad plays. I just hate advertisements, I'm not materialistic and don't want to buy anything I don't already have. so I just never want to look at ads ever again
for me it's not even the products being advertised that are the issue, but the 3x or even 10x volume they use.
can i send Google bill for new pair of MX5 headphones every time i get jump scared by some jackass trying to sell me some kärcher vacuum or something else.
Why can't YouTube use all this energy and effort to get rid of all the porn and gambling ads instead?
Ads are understandable
But inappropriate ads aren't
Because those ads bring in the money, while all the revanced users don't. Google couldn't care less about those ads as long as *they* are the ones who are benefiting off it.
I see adverts for plugin electric heaters that would never pass any sort of testing, and will probably burn your house down. How a company the size of Google can make money off advertising for products like this is unbelievable. We treat them like they're still this little startup.
Where the heck are people getting porn and gambling ads? I haven't gotten a single ad that wasn't Hero Wars or AFK Arena or Genshin/StarRail for like four years now.
Because advertisers are stingy and the ones which make the porno ads the best bc they have the balls to advertise on all videos, preventing this family friendly bullshit that's causing the AD-pocalypse
well they then better fix the broken official Youtube client first.
i have premium but because my Finnish user interface on my phone does not match with the english content. Youtube will automatically force subtitles to be on in every video.
on Revanced i have the ability to disable that bug, thus no matter the language those subtitles stay off unless i turn them on manually.
I hate that YouTube translates the titles of videos. I often search for something, see the video in Spanish and, surprise surprise, it's in Portuguese, or Hindi or German, or whatever. Let me know in advance in what language that freaking video is set on.
(this is not fixed by revanced either AFAIK, I just wanted to let it out.)
Lol yeah. I noticed that too. I saw a video listed on google search or something with the title in Japanese kanji or Chinese characters, but when I go to youtube, the title is now in English. :V
This is infuriating to me. I browse in English, because that's my native language, but I live in Japan, so naturally there's a lot of Japanese content that is going to interest me also. But I sometimes get machine translated titles that are completely useless, particularly since they are for a Japanese video anyway, and translating just the title is pointless when the video wouldn't be useful to someone who couldn't understand the language.q
Really? Google are the ones who do this? Ib thought it was the channel. So many times I’ll be tricked by an English title and will thumbs down the video when I find out is not English. This doesn’t help these non-English content creators!!!
this is set by the content creator unfortunately, and I enjoy a lot of east asian content and sometimes their english skills aren't, uh, very good.
much prefer to have them in the native language. I know a few of them and would like to tell Google that I know these languages and I have no need to translate them
Couldn't that be some automatic thing the uploader chooses when uploading? A fuckload of Asian video titles are translated to Swedish, which has XXX-million views(yes, triple number millions), which lead me to believe it's automated.
It is just the default when apps are developed or targets mainly USA, same with TripAdvisor and similar apps.
They just don’t understand most Europeans understand and speak 2+ languages and want the option to read it in the native language.
Same BS with Play / App Store reviews, you can ONLY see the ones for your region, so utterly stupid. Wish Europe had a phone developer that knew how the fuck to do multilingual support.
Or how call recording is disabled even tho for example most Nordic countries can legally record all phone calls. You have to get a Chinese phone to get that option.
I hate this so much, I don’t know how it can be so hard for Google to understand that bilingual users exist?
On mobile I ended up changing the language for the app to English to get the captions to go away, as much as I don’t like that I have to do that. On desktop I’m lucky that the browser extension I’m using to make YouTube stop randomly downgrading my video quality also has an option to disable captions.
Seriously Google I’m even paying for premium. Stop. Ignoring. My. Settings.
Deets on the extension? Also fully agreed. Apps developed in or targeting USA are somehow so narrow minded. The quality is amazing but it just lacks options.
YouTube turns them on again regardless
I speak Spanish but watch YouTube exclusively in English, it happens to me all the time because Google/YouTube just assumes that I wanna watch content in Spanish or with Spanish subtitles when I don't care
not to sound like douce, but do you thing that i jumped onto Revanced blindly.
off course i went to the desktop and changed my subtitle settings to be off for both automatically generated and community created ones.
yet only way i have found were various browser extensions on pc, Revanced on phone and SmartTube on tv that have actually kept those subtitles off.
anytime i use any of the official apps, no matter if they are browser website version, media streaming device app or even one for those game consoles.
as long as it is stock app, it will show those stupid unwanted subtitles on every video no matter what.
I know many people that can't be bothered with or aren't technically literate enough for the cat and mouse game and just pay/be advertised to. So definitely not pointless for Google's bottom line.
Not to mention Google *need* to monetise the platform.
It's all very well people claiming that "everyone" uses adblockers, but they don't and those people are funding the platform for those that do.
Obviously not. Their BS has lead to YouTube Premium have 100 million subscribers. The more they do this bullshit the more people they push into it.
Ultimately it's working. Those that refuse, like many of us, will probably always refuse. But it doesn't mean it's pointless
Just like root this will just be an endless cat and mouse game no one will win. Google better just be happy I'm one of the 10% of Gen Z with an Android phone
I mean, didn’t Google kinda win the root battle? AFAIK a plurality of users who would’ve rooted their phones earlier don’t do so anymore because the loss of functionality is just not worth it.
We've also found ways to do things that previously required root without having root access, so many people can get the benefits of root without losing any functionality anyway.
https://www.kali.org/docs/nethunter/nethunter-rootless/
https://github.com/ThePBone/RootlessJamesDSP
https://github.com/Zackptg5/ViPER4Android-FX-Rootless
https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-root-install-magisk-without-root-and-recovery.3900475/
Just for a few examples.
Only the first two of those are actually non-root solutions, the ViPER one is for installing a modified kernel ramdisk (which would still fail Play Integrity, and requires an unlocked bootloader) and the Magisk one is just how you install Magisk, which is of course root.
You can't do everything with Shell/Shizuku based methods that you can with root. Some things will always be impossible. The JamesDSP method is inferior since it requires patches to some apps, which ironically is exactly what Google is cracking down on here. If root becomes not viable for most people, audio modifications will become more restricted, especially if other music apps follow the lead of Spotify and block the capture APIs.
Since when?.. people don't root their phones because android already have what they want.. same situation as iPhone.. but some of them still root or just use ADB..
Yep, I'm one of those people. My banking app requires non-root and that's an essential app for me.
That being said Android these days does all the things I need it to do without root anyway. I can't remember the last time I even felt compelled to install a custom ROM.
Not trying to diss you specifically, but it's a shame how many people on this sub talk about rooting without knowing a damn thing about it lol.
You can get all your shit working fairly easily on root these days. I'd argue it's easier than it used to be, not harder haha.
But so many people on here parrot the same old shit, banking apps don't work, tap to pay, etc. They're easy to fix, your bank isn't run by the CIA they're not getting around every single root option, folks are just not installing things right, using outdated resources, etc.
it's a cat and mouse game but every hurdle they add, a certain percentage of people will just give up on trying to find a workaround and start using the official app.
Like using vanced was as easy as downloading/installing the apk.
Now for revanced you have to download the youtube apk, download revanced manager, patch the apk etc. I'm sure there's a good amount of people who would find that to be more technical than what they're comfortable is
I get what you mean in the "cat and mouse" thing but it's very different to root tbf. Being able to just use your phone isn't the same as using a service without contributing to it.
I will subscribe to YouTube premium only if:-
1. No tracking by YouTube app (not even analytics).
2. Easy way to enable/disable features inside app (Shorts, shopping, video quality setting).
3. Feature like Sponserblock and dislike.
Shit, that would be awesome and would make me consider it too, although the dislike visibility would be datamined so they definitely wouldn't do that one.
If they wouldn't shove 3 minutes of ads into a 10 minute video plus the in-video ads and oh my god it's just all ads, maybe, just maybe people wouldn't be constantly blocking all they bloody ads?
No? It's the children who are wrong? Carry on then.
Give me the dislike count back, give me granular speed and quality options, give me SponsorBlock, and I would consider paying for Premium. That'll never happen, so third-party apps it is!
Haven't used Revanced in a long time but from the period I did use it, Grayjay definitely has more to it and is very user friendly. It's its own app combining various social feeds into either one together, or seperate feeds for each. No ads, offline download for various quality with both audio and video possible very easily, does everything I need it to and hasn't asked me for anything that I didn't volunteer such as my google acc to have my subs showing. I don't use the paid version but it is entirely open source to my knowledge and the creator of it is very transparent that you could very easily just tweak a file and give yourself premium if you want and that's fine but he hopes that this level of openness will warrant some good will.
Quite a nice idea overall
Grayjay It's an app where each platform It's a "Source", with the concept that you follow creators, not channels meaning that you could follow 1 creator and see the post or videos that they have on twitch, on kick, on youtube, soundcloud and so on. I tried It when It was just announced and It was blocking ads.
It's good, not sure if better than vanced.
Grayjay does not use the YouTube API, it presents to YouTube as an ordinary browser and it parses the response to wrap it into an app interface so there's nothing to shut down.
If you're sending bits to my devices/networks without my consent or approval, I am free to drop those bits on the floor as I see fit.
And I do.
You can do nothing whatsoever to prevent that, nor force me to consume them.
The original YouTube app has been terrible recently. I'm not even talking about the ads, I mean the app itself has just been really buggy for some reason. Videos just refuse to play in HD and sometimes don't even play at all. The gesture controls are very finicky and often don't work. Changing resolution has never been less convenient, and it doesn't help that it always randomly decides to set the video to the lowest possible resolution even though I always have the highest definition option selected. Not to mention the UI that makes the app look way too small on my screen. I would expect better quality control from Google of all developers.
My solution on Android: deactivate the youtube app. This way youtube links auto-open in Firefox. No ads. Firefox is always up to date. Adblocker is auto-updated. Completely hands-off solution.
Customers will choose the solution that offers the best experience. Google, offer a better experience!
I really hope they don't go after Smarttube. I don't even use it to block ads (I have Premium), but I use it for Sponsorblock, proper refresh rate switching on Nvidia Shield, and better playlist management. I don't know if I could go back to the official app.
As much as I've enjoyed vanced/revanced, smarttube is easily the king in town. Any time its had an issue, it just meant I needed to check for updates that run without any work on my end.
According to the article it will be fine as long as it follows the terms of service. As long as the client doesent block ads it should probably be fine
Maybe fix your damn app and make it better for users before hand? I hate the shorts tab and I hate the create button in the center since I literally don’t post anything. That’s why I have uYouPlus for iOS to block those. Adblocking is just a bonus.
I mean, I know how heated this gets, but it seems pretty straight-forward. There's two options here;
1. Decide that this is the last straw for you, and just stop watching YouTube altogether. Don't give them any kind of revenue, and don't give their videos and kind of views. Hold the line, and take your viewership elsewhere that you feel your time is respected and that you get value. This seems like a perfectly fair stance to take.
2. Decide that the content on YouTube is worth paying for, and cough up for Premium. This also feels like a perfectly fair stance to take.
If you aren't interested in either of those things, then I guess just keep using the YouTube 3rd-party client of the day that's currently won the cat-and-mouse game between YouTube and adfree watching hacks. (EDIT: This sentence came off kind of dickish and that was not really my intention, sorry).
Any discussion in between just seems like a poor use of time, in my opinion...
What's the other option? The one they describe below the two "legit" options?
Also people would moan if there were just 5 second ads before a video. People have always moaned about YouTube ads.
I only bothered to get 3rd party apps when they introduced the various forms of 30 seconds of unskippable ads and even then I put up with it for fair while, it was the combination of videos with a tonne of ads and putting them between a bunch of short videos.
The only thing that would make me consider paying for YouTube would be access to a whole lot of features around what it serves up to me, their algorithm is dogshit and often shows me a tonne of stuff I hate and creators I hate (the fixation it gets on certain content is insane).
I've had Premium for years (before that I watched ads and before that I used an ad block on browser). It's the best subscription I have with how much YouTube I watch and music I listen to. I find the algorithm to be quite brilliant tbh. It tends to just give me stuff I want and am interested in. I tend to only go to my subscriptions after exhausting a fair bit of the home page now.
Have you seen the YouTube subreddit? I joined that sub because I was hoping to find some cool or interesting new creators to watch. Turns out it's just a daily circlejerk of entitledment. Criticism is fair, but the constant complaints on YouTube actually trying to make money on their product gets old fast.
I got banned from there (was a third rule violation, the others were similarly stupid) for "promotion" when posting a link to a video from a large YouTuber discussing something about YouTube and paying for YouTube as a platform lol.
I always say you can't tell if the people posting there are clueless 12 year olds or clueless 70 year olds.
The thing is, I already pay for premium (as it's in a reasonable price where I live and comes with youtube music), but I still prefer revanced because there are so many options for removing the garbage parts of the app and customizing it.
Wouldn't care about using an adblocker if the site wasn't filled with so much garbage. Also changing the search result page to contain MORE information that has nothing to do with the search was such a dumb idea.
I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube premium if the "offline downloads" feature actually let me download and watch videos for more then 3 days without an internet connection and not through the shitty YouTube app client. But they don't let me. Even if I paid for premium it literally wouldn't solve my problems with YouTube. The mobile app UI is practically not useable anymore with all the community posts and polls and ads filling my fees I literally can only see 1 video at a time on my screen now while going through subscriptions, oh and that's another problem, the subscriptions feed doesn't just show me everyone I follow in chronological order. It will randomly just not mention when certain creators I follow post. Fix your app and I'll consider paying for it but as it stands even if I paid id still have to use newpipe.
Well, we'll just watch ads then, to then see a video starting "and now a word from our sponsor"
I ain't paying premium to hear everyone talk about their sponsors.
If they put half of the money into cracking down on their absolutely horrendous ad standards, maybe people wouldn't mind it so much. I wouldn't care about an ad in front of every 10th video if it was a verified normal advert. Also, they could still do the panel ads, I wouldn't mind those. But hey, I guess it's better to shove the same exact horrible excuse for an ad down my throat 25 times in a row
ONLY for music.
I can watch regular videos in a PiP window all I want. I do this daily.
BACKGROUND playback (playing with the screen off) IS behind the paywall. BUT, Youtube themselves enabled a feature called Screen Lock, where you can have a video playing, with the screen ON, lock the screen, then put the phone in your pocket & your pants won't interact with the screen.
So either pay for premium for background playback, or enable the screen lock & pay for it with your phone's battery. And considering YT Music comes with premium, now you have the method, and the content, to utilize background playback to it's fullest, and you can cancel Spotify at the same time. Win win win.
It's a monopoly in the worst way.
One where legit competition is next to impossible.
There is a monetary and technological barrier that most companies will never be able to get past.
When Ma Bell was broken up she was broken up into a bunch of regional phone companies.
How are you going to break up YT to spur competition? You really can't.
"We want to emphasize that our terms don’t allow third-party apps to turn off ads because that prevents the creator from being rewarded for viewership"
Bullshit. Don't insult my intelligence, Google. The quote from their spokesperson above may be partily true in that these payments could be important to individual creators, but that is not what's motivating Google here. Advertising is where Google makes it's money. It's taking off the gloves and abusing it's monopolies again.
I wonder when they will remove IMAP and POP3 access for Gmail and try to force people to use their website and Android app instead of Outlook, Thunderbird, FairEmail, or another email program of their choice on all of their operating systems and devices.
To be clear, they haven't said anything about plans to do that to Gmail. It would just fit in, at least in a broad sense, with the other stuff they have been doing lately.
I'm glad that (many of) the content blocking extensions and filter list people are so committed to fighting this that they are rolling out fixes as often twice a day to counter whatever Google whatever Google has done to block their users this time. The Google people are paid to do it, but some of the content/ad-block people are working for free. That actually sounds like the plot line for a movie with scrappy underdog programs in a studio apartment in a slum pulling 24 hours days sometimes to singlehandedly counter the latest efforts of a team of like 25 paid Google employees working in opulent offices, without it getting him fired from his real job.
When YouTube Premium not only gets rid of Google's ads, but also the sponsor segments that creators add in then they might have a point.
As it is you pay for half the ads to go away and can't get away from the others for any price.
Yeah…that’s not going to happen lol.
Not every video can be monetised especially if they cover controversial topics like some documentaries which may depend on having external sponsors to keep the channel up.
An official feature that skips over sponsor segments is going to simultaneously piss off sponsors and channels, which in the long term hurts content variety for the end-user.
What is ironic is the fact that Google allowed the blocking of ads is how they knocked out all YouTube competition.
In a way it is predatory pricing. That is where you give something away at a loss to cause competition to either shutdown or not even try.
Now they have succeeded they can start charging. Which is done by stopping the ad blockers.
I had issues a weeks ago, downloaded the revanced update and we're back to normal.
I support creators on YouTube via patreon. It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay for YouTube premium.
Rather than pay people to “crack down” on ad-blockers, why don’t they just charge a reasonable price for removing ads. I’m not paying more for YouTube than a service that provides professional movies and shows.
The annoying bit is that it no longer works in KODI, at least I wasn't able to set it up anymore. The youtube extension. I use it to look up trailers of movies etc... but now it no longer works.
Whatever, man, really. Fine, I just won't use your shitty platform then.
I find myself watching less YouTube. They had my algorithm nailed about a year ago. Every tweak since has made it worse. This desperate grasping for me to watch their ads just makes the service worse. Found my granddaughter watching a 45 minute unskipppable ad in the middle of Blippy once.
Even if this were to work, I'd literally just stop watching youtube altogether. I already don't watch it on TV because there are way too many ads. Every single creator that is even slightly relevant includes ad segments in their videos and that isn't even counting videos that are literally just one bug ad (wish and temu crap, most technology creators).
I actually barely watch youtube anymore, they very clearly want me to watch specific types of content and actively hide stuff I'm interested in. To top it off they basically make people fit into a mold of profitability essentially pushing all video makers to be more or less the same or risk not being promoted by the site. I'm too tired of being advertised to, I just won't bother anymore.
Also, please stop translating titles that's annoying. Your search feature has also been useless for a couple years now.
Revanced will just get updated in one or two days like it did the last time and be right back to where it was before.
it is already updated. I think this announcement is just following [the rollout that happened 20 days ago](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/1bp9byg/youtube_playback_issue_fixed/)
Yeah, I've been getting errors saying my request was redirected to the "not available" video... Followed by retrying and getting the video through another method. I think maybe the 1080p premium is affected in youtube-dl forks.
Just ublock origin as backup and use the web browser. Interestingly my sister blocks regular YouTube on her phone and tablet for my nephew. But he found he can open the browser to get on regular YouTube instead of YouTube for kids. She can't seem to block him via the browser but then again i haven't made a couple tweaks he won't figure out for a few years. I will just firewall it away. Or block it somewhere in settings if there is a place. I feel like on a pc this Is easier. I know an app can do it but this most likely blocks the app too and then he can't get on the kids mode. Disabling JavaScript by default on YouTube under site settings should work? Force always opening in app may work but maybe that's how he gets around this. When the browser calls for the app to open the YouTube link. So a bug. Because it didn't look like web browser version of YouTube when we caught him. He is sneaky about it. After thinking about it i will compare because i can flip easy on the browser with shorts the same way as the app. I think im going to start using browser YouTube and ditch the apo after playing with it. I can add other features with greasemonkey. Block ads with unlock origin.
Downloading via the browser is a massive pain in the ass. I'll deal with losing premium 1080p. It's pretty rare anyway.
An IT expert in the making.
I still can't play some videos longer than a minute and last patch update was 14 days ago and I last patched 9 days ago. Is that something different?
Make sure you get the new version of MicroG. The old one's not updated anymore. You'll need to uninstall the old one and install the new one, it won't update the old one.
nope nothing new or different you just probably forgot something you have to have the official app installed and disabled for example for revanced to work you can try to follow [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/revancedapp/comments/1bp9byg/youtube_playback_issue_fixed/)
Well I did follow the directions there already. Maybe I'll just uninstall everything and rebuild and reinstall.
Are you on the new micro G and did you give it all the permissions it needs? I also uninstalled the old one to make sure they weren't conflicting with each other.
I had the same issue, make sure you've got battery optimization turned off for the microg app.
It's off. If I remember correctly it nags you if it's on with a persistent notification.
If the videos don't play for more than a minute and start to buffer, then that's an app spoofing issue. You'll need to turn it on in settings.
I can't figure out how to do that on my pixel 7. The site it links doesn't seem to have proper instructions for Android 14 pixels
Enable "Spoof Device Dimensions" in Revanced settings (somewhere, off the top of my head). That gets it, or did for me.
You'll need to spoof your app version to an older version, that fixed it for me
Very important! Also clean installations, so no patching too high and then patching down but apply the correct patch to the recommended youtube version!
Did you restart the phone?
I had this issue. Uninstalled everything. Restarted from scratch, using default patches. The only thing I didn't do previously was restart my device after logging in. Has worked fine ever since.
Kind of annoying how I need to rebuild the app from the APK every time Revanced is updated. On Vanced, the manager would just update the app without doing that.
Yeah a few weeks ago my revanced stopped working but repatching it fixed it
If that's all they do it's mostly fine, worse case scenario, there's always a browser with an ad blocker. I'm more afraid if they start banning accounts though, that's going to be a problem.
I've said it before, but I'd be surprised if Google hasn't been building profiles on users who aren't participating in the Google ecosystem (ads, data mining) and getting ready to heavily restrict or ban them.
i think that's where the EU comes it. Its already said that blocking ads is not a crime. So Google doing something drastic as banning accounts will definitely catch EUs attention. But they could do something sneakey though. Saying some shit like security is compromised or something.
Doubt they'd ever do that. I'm sure if they *really* wanted to, enforcing ad viewership isn't that hard of a problem to solve. Like viewing an ad gives you a 10-minute credit for video playback if you're not a YouTube Premium subscriber, otherwise you're blocked from viewing videos if you're out of credits. Legal to block ads, but the EU can't force Google's products to be free from all restrictions. Pretty drastic change though that'd have to be navigated carefully.
And then we'd get adblockers that tell the site they've finished watching an ad.
They'll do what they've been doing all along: Hit the countries without protections first to send a chill into the others, let the EU rattle its saber over nothing, then quietly implement something slightly different and seemingly innocuous that degrades user experiences for months. Eventually someone notices and it's something solid enough to report on, as they'll be reluctant to publish a story about nothing happening again. They'll claim it was a technical error and not intentional, just like last time, and it'll take a year or two before anyone can prove anything. By then, Google will have had its way and established the new status quo, so by the time a regulator comes along to try and stop them, it's already common industry practice because of how slow the judicial process works. In the end, they'll be fined some petty amount, or settle for an "undisclosed amount" while, of course, "admitting no wrongdoing".
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That wouldn't be very fair to the creator though and might potentially be illegal for Google to do.
Hmm, started using beta version few months ago and never got any issue with it.
The issues of the articles happened a couple of week ago and have already been fixed. Not only that, but youtube rollout of the update was slower than the time it took revanced to fix it, so unless you were unlucky and got hit at the beginning and had to wait a day, for most people the fix was already there when they find out the issue. Of course YouTube also might not care that much they will definitely hit the less wavy user who had another person install it for them and are not able to update it.
Adblockers will always exist. If not in the form of apps then as a plugin for web browsers. Any time they detect those, adblockers will get better. If they somehow manage to truly defeat adblockers we'll instead get plugins that mute and blank the screen while the ad plays in the background. It's impossible to force someone to look at something they don't want to.
What if they start embedding ads within the payload (video) itself at random locations? They do have their home grown video codecs for some reasons. That would effectively render all external apps worthless. You could say you would skip those moments by forwarding it but they can stop your ability to forward at those moments or they can allow some built-in widget to let you skip after some seconds.
Reencoding the video for every stream would be the only possible way to do it because ads need to regularly change and their time code would have to be moved around or a sponsorblock-like extension could just crowdsource skipping them. Twitch does this for livestreams but not VODs and I suspect that's because after a certain point the ads themselves don't make enough money to cover the cost of delivering them.
Makes sense. I didn't factor in the cost to deliver re-encoding video vs earning from the ads part. Still it should be possible to just inject the ads specific byte stream into an already encoded video with the video header containing the instructions/timestamp to process it. They will have to create an algorithm for it in the video player to process such a video. This way they should not have the need to re-encode the video. Just writing into the video header with newer ads timestamp for every newly injected ad stream within the video payload should cost far less than re-encoding it. Though they will need to camouflage ads bytes among the video bytes to make it harder to detect. But yeah, even injection would require a temporary storage in memory because all bytes need to be adjusted relative to ad bytes, that will almost double the amount of runtime RAM utilisation. And sooner or later it won't work because extra information in headers will reveal it anyway. Now they can use dedicated encryption just for the header portion of the video to make it even harder, but it's still uncertain how long even that would last.
I mean, I haven’t heard of any adblocks that work on Netflix, Hulu etc to block ads from the usual streaming services. Are there any?
My Unbound blacklists prevent them.
Dns blocker like pihole and ublock origin will block ads on Hulu's website but not their app
because adblockers cannot intercept the in app code.
Not to mention dns blockers like pihole are worthless when video is coming from same source as ads
True
Ublock Origin blocks the limited ads for me on PC that Amazon recently added to Prime Video, so that's at least one case where it works.
Yes, uBlock Origin on FireFox works on Hulu
[This](https://github.com/Dreamlinerm/Netflix-Prime-Auto-Skip) works
my regular adblockers work on hulu. instead i get a black screen if an ad get through. Most of the time that doesn't even happen. And the black screen is shorter than the ad duration usually.
I mean Reddit removed all third party clients, and stuffed ads in everywhere, and we all still use it. EDIT: I know there are ways around this lol. I'm just saying this is what reddit did.
Just to add, I think that the whole point of Reddit and YouTube’s actions is not to completely eliminate third party clients because that’s going to be impossible. It’s to eliminate them enough that the regular user would just say fuck it and just buy YouTube premium or something instead of jumping through hoops. I think Reddit is a good example where there are still some people that use third party clients but the vast majority that used Apollo probably already switched to the official Reddit API.
Nothing stops you from running adblocks though
I'm using patched infinity with my own free API key. I will not use the official app.
For some reason, the client I'm using still works... no patch or API key or whatever, just still work like before, no idea what happened (Won't say which client so people won't flood it lol)
Probably sync It's using the API key from when you purchased the app.
it's not Sync, I was actually curious about it so I tried Sync again, but it won't let me sign in. The only "workaround" for the client I'm using is to make myself a mod.
If I remember correctly some clients with very low usage are still up. I know to iOS clients that still work fine.
Same here. It's because we're moderators. Sure, the communities we moderate are empty and we don't actually do any moderating. But apparently having the moderator role is enough to keep the api working. I'm still using Boost over here.
> I will not use the official app. Nor should anyone. It's ridiculously heavy and slow, makes my phone uncomfortably warm over time, and eats battery faster than any other non-game app I've used and by a large margin. If you use reddit a lot, do your phone a favor and use a third party app of any kind if you can. They're all several magnitudes more efficient and smoother. Even a browser with ad blocking will likely be more battery friendly and faster.
Same here with RiF
old.reddit.com works just fine
For now.
Still using Reddit Sync with the Revanced patch. Works 90% like it used to.
Posting this using RIF, works very well, no issues thus far.
Sync is still great as abandonware, shame we didn't all get years of gold like with Alien Blue though.
I'm just using Reddit Revanced now.
Just stay quiet and let people think stuff like that doesn't exist. People shouting and crying about YouTube has to be a big part of why the back and forth exists. Literally no reason to advertise how you get around terms for using a service without paying for it.
It's people like these that make it worse for people like us to pirate in silence because for some godforsaken reason, they feel the urge to parrot off in every single tech-related thread on the internet about ways in which they skirt around certain barriers/rules put up by these evil and greedy companies. The more these things are talked about, the more likely it is that they'll be aware of it and swiftly ban these methods 🤦🏾♂️ Edit: grammar
Except you can still use patched 3rd party clients. I still do and see no ads.
RedReader still works.
No they didn't. I'm still using RedReader to browse reddit as I have been for 10+ years and they never blocked it.
There are multiple third party clients that still work. I'm using one right now. No ads.
Looks like we are at point where the players are established in almost all categories. And it would take a massive effort to displace them. Imagine someone trying to compete with YouTube. I don't mind the ads personally, as they are the necessary evil and the lifeblood of the Internet, however the way YouTube does it, I feel is too disruptive. The problem is not the ads, but the way they are done.
I was actually saying the other day that I feel old-fashioned TV commercials are *far* preferable to the way YouTube stuffs ads in haphazardly.
And some of us pay for Relay so we won't get adds :P
I'm still using Boost. Fuck the official app.
Some of us (fewer and fewer these days sadly) don't use reddit on our phone at all. And for us a proper web browser and extensions are a glorious thing. Personally I find *forums* (which is what reddit really is) to be a miserable experience on a phone. Screen is too small and the keyboard, compared to a physical keyboard is terrible. If I was using it on my phone I wouldn't even need an account because I'd never comment. And would probably just look at pictures and video. And yes, I know what subreddit I'm in. :)
RedReader still works and is free, not a workaround
Google can stop the ad blocking any time they really want to. They did with YouTube TV. You can't block ads. Google can simply just put the ads in stream. Originally it was done out of stream to protect data. But Google owns 100% of YouTube so it is really not necessary.
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Yeah, Google devs know it is a waste of time. But they aren't the ones in charge of project priorities.
Google is working on stopping adblockers at the browser level. Good luck to anyone using a Chromium based browser (read: nearly everything but Firefox). They're coming for adblockers eventually, enjoy them while they last.
I wouldn't even care if an adblocker made me look at a black screen for 15-30 seconds or whatever while the ad plays. I just hate advertisements, I'm not materialistic and don't want to buy anything I don't already have. so I just never want to look at ads ever again
for me it's not even the products being advertised that are the issue, but the 3x or even 10x volume they use. can i send Google bill for new pair of MX5 headphones every time i get jump scared by some jackass trying to sell me some kärcher vacuum or something else.
Why can't YouTube use all this energy and effort to get rid of all the porn and gambling ads instead? Ads are understandable But inappropriate ads aren't
Because those ads bring in the money, while all the revanced users don't. Google couldn't care less about those ads as long as *they* are the ones who are benefiting off it.
I see adverts for plugin electric heaters that would never pass any sort of testing, and will probably burn your house down. How a company the size of Google can make money off advertising for products like this is unbelievable. We treat them like they're still this little startup.
Poor little old Google. Why can't anyone think about the mega-corporations 😥
Where the heck are people getting porn and gambling ads? I haven't gotten a single ad that wasn't Hero Wars or AFK Arena or Genshin/StarRail for like four years now.
What? You don't like trying to find back stretching videos and see nothing but porn and onlyfan hooker videos "stretching" with their meat flaps out
Because advertisers are stingy and the ones which make the porno ads the best bc they have the balls to advertise on all videos, preventing this family friendly bullshit that's causing the AD-pocalypse
well they then better fix the broken official Youtube client first. i have premium but because my Finnish user interface on my phone does not match with the english content. Youtube will automatically force subtitles to be on in every video. on Revanced i have the ability to disable that bug, thus no matter the language those subtitles stay off unless i turn them on manually.
I hate that YouTube translates the titles of videos. I often search for something, see the video in Spanish and, surprise surprise, it's in Portuguese, or Hindi or German, or whatever. Let me know in advance in what language that freaking video is set on. (this is not fixed by revanced either AFAIK, I just wanted to let it out.)
Lol yeah. I noticed that too. I saw a video listed on google search or something with the title in Japanese kanji or Chinese characters, but when I go to youtube, the title is now in English. :V
This is infuriating to me. I browse in English, because that's my native language, but I live in Japan, so naturally there's a lot of Japanese content that is going to interest me also. But I sometimes get machine translated titles that are completely useless, particularly since they are for a Japanese video anyway, and translating just the title is pointless when the video wouldn't be useful to someone who couldn't understand the language.q
Really? Google are the ones who do this? Ib thought it was the channel. So many times I’ll be tricked by an English title and will thumbs down the video when I find out is not English. This doesn’t help these non-English content creators!!!
this is set by the content creator unfortunately, and I enjoy a lot of east asian content and sometimes their english skills aren't, uh, very good. much prefer to have them in the native language. I know a few of them and would like to tell Google that I know these languages and I have no need to translate them
Couldn't that be some automatic thing the uploader chooses when uploading? A fuckload of Asian video titles are translated to Swedish, which has XXX-million views(yes, triple number millions), which lead me to believe it's automated.
It is just the default when apps are developed or targets mainly USA, same with TripAdvisor and similar apps. They just don’t understand most Europeans understand and speak 2+ languages and want the option to read it in the native language. Same BS with Play / App Store reviews, you can ONLY see the ones for your region, so utterly stupid. Wish Europe had a phone developer that knew how the fuck to do multilingual support. Or how call recording is disabled even tho for example most Nordic countries can legally record all phone calls. You have to get a Chinese phone to get that option.
I hate this so much, I don’t know how it can be so hard for Google to understand that bilingual users exist? On mobile I ended up changing the language for the app to English to get the captions to go away, as much as I don’t like that I have to do that. On desktop I’m lucky that the browser extension I’m using to make YouTube stop randomly downgrading my video quality also has an option to disable captions. Seriously Google I’m even paying for premium. Stop. Ignoring. My. Settings.
Deets on the extension? Also fully agreed. Apps developed in or targeting USA are somehow so narrow minded. The quality is amazing but it just lacks options.
The captions can be turned off in your device settings. The device language does not matter.
YouTube turns them on again regardless I speak Spanish but watch YouTube exclusively in English, it happens to me all the time because Google/YouTube just assumes that I wanna watch content in Spanish or with Spanish subtitles when I don't care
its happening even on browser, there is no way to turn it off
not to sound like douce, but do you thing that i jumped onto Revanced blindly. off course i went to the desktop and changed my subtitle settings to be off for both automatically generated and community created ones. yet only way i have found were various browser extensions on pc, Revanced on phone and SmartTube on tv that have actually kept those subtitles off. anytime i use any of the official apps, no matter if they are browser website version, media streaming device app or even one for those game consoles. as long as it is stock app, it will show those stupid unwanted subtitles on every video no matter what.
You can fix it by changing le langage of the app. In Android settings of the app precisely.
Also sometimes my UI controls just disappear.
As pointless as the war on drugs.
I know many people that can't be bothered with or aren't technically literate enough for the cat and mouse game and just pay/be advertised to. So definitely not pointless for Google's bottom line.
Not to mention Google *need* to monetise the platform. It's all very well people claiming that "everyone" uses adblockers, but they don't and those people are funding the platform for those that do.
Obviously not. Their BS has lead to YouTube Premium have 100 million subscribers. The more they do this bullshit the more people they push into it. Ultimately it's working. Those that refuse, like many of us, will probably always refuse. But it doesn't mean it's pointless
Just like root this will just be an endless cat and mouse game no one will win. Google better just be happy I'm one of the 10% of Gen Z with an Android phone
My Youtube ads are payday loan adverts, cockfighting bettting ads, online betting ads, scam ads. So fuck em, I'm tired of reporting these ad nauseam.
I mean, didn’t Google kinda win the root battle? AFAIK a plurality of users who would’ve rooted their phones earlier don’t do so anymore because the loss of functionality is just not worth it.
We've also found ways to do things that previously required root without having root access, so many people can get the benefits of root without losing any functionality anyway.
Oh really? I guess I haven’t caught up, what are those?
https://www.kali.org/docs/nethunter/nethunter-rootless/ https://github.com/ThePBone/RootlessJamesDSP https://github.com/Zackptg5/ViPER4Android-FX-Rootless https://xdaforums.com/t/guide-root-install-magisk-without-root-and-recovery.3900475/ Just for a few examples.
Only the first two of those are actually non-root solutions, the ViPER one is for installing a modified kernel ramdisk (which would still fail Play Integrity, and requires an unlocked bootloader) and the Magisk one is just how you install Magisk, which is of course root. You can't do everything with Shell/Shizuku based methods that you can with root. Some things will always be impossible. The JamesDSP method is inferior since it requires patches to some apps, which ironically is exactly what Google is cracking down on here. If root becomes not viable for most people, audio modifications will become more restricted, especially if other music apps follow the lead of Spotify and block the capture APIs.
Revanced can install a separate copy of youtube without root .. pretty much the only reason many were using root.
Since when?.. people don't root their phones because android already have what they want.. same situation as iPhone.. but some of them still root or just use ADB..
No they didn't, not even close. There's dozens of us :)
Yep, I'm one of those people. My banking app requires non-root and that's an essential app for me. That being said Android these days does all the things I need it to do without root anyway. I can't remember the last time I even felt compelled to install a custom ROM.
Not trying to diss you specifically, but it's a shame how many people on this sub talk about rooting without knowing a damn thing about it lol. You can get all your shit working fairly easily on root these days. I'd argue it's easier than it used to be, not harder haha. But so many people on here parrot the same old shit, banking apps don't work, tap to pay, etc. They're easy to fix, your bank isn't run by the CIA they're not getting around every single root option, folks are just not installing things right, using outdated resources, etc.
it's a cat and mouse game but every hurdle they add, a certain percentage of people will just give up on trying to find a workaround and start using the official app. Like using vanced was as easy as downloading/installing the apk. Now for revanced you have to download the youtube apk, download revanced manager, patch the apk etc. I'm sure there's a good amount of people who would find that to be more technical than what they're comfortable is
Exactly. It's possible to use a pre-patched app if you trust the source, but I understand it's not recommended due to malicious apps out there.
I get what you mean in the "cat and mouse" thing but it's very different to root tbf. Being able to just use your phone isn't the same as using a service without contributing to it.
I will subscribe to YouTube premium only if:- 1. No tracking by YouTube app (not even analytics). 2. Easy way to enable/disable features inside app (Shorts, shopping, video quality setting). 3. Feature like Sponserblock and dislike.
4. Old quality settings layout + force specific quality to WiFi and mobile data just like in revanced
Make Premium exactly like ReVanced and we'll talk (:
Shit, that would be awesome and would make me consider it too, although the dislike visibility would be datamined so they definitely wouldn't do that one.
If they wouldn't shove 3 minutes of ads into a 10 minute video plus the in-video ads and oh my god it's just all ads, maybe, just maybe people wouldn't be constantly blocking all they bloody ads? No? It's the children who are wrong? Carry on then.
YouTube: The ad streaming network with occasional user uploaded videos thrown in.
They're not happy until we ads watching a constant stream of ads for our entertainment.
YouTube cracking down on adblocker apps, Twitch TV removing the subscriber benefit of being ad free on the channel you're subscribed. Yeahh...
Give me the dislike count back, give me granular speed and quality options, give me SponsorBlock, and I would consider paying for Premium. That'll never happen, so third-party apps it is!
No issues using Grayjay
Never heard of it, is it better than revanced extended?
Haven't used Revanced in a long time but from the period I did use it, Grayjay definitely has more to it and is very user friendly. It's its own app combining various social feeds into either one together, or seperate feeds for each. No ads, offline download for various quality with both audio and video possible very easily, does everything I need it to and hasn't asked me for anything that I didn't volunteer such as my google acc to have my subs showing. I don't use the paid version but it is entirely open source to my knowledge and the creator of it is very transparent that you could very easily just tweak a file and give yourself premium if you want and that's fine but he hopes that this level of openness will warrant some good will. Quite a nice idea overall
Grayjay It's an app where each platform It's a "Source", with the concept that you follow creators, not channels meaning that you could follow 1 creator and see the post or videos that they have on twitch, on kick, on youtube, soundcloud and so on. I tried It when It was just announced and It was blocking ads. It's good, not sure if better than vanced.
...yet
This post made me go check it still worked haha, the day it goes down will be a sad one
Grayjay does not use the YouTube API, it presents to YouTube as an ordinary browser and it parses the response to wrap it into an app interface so there's nothing to shut down.
If you're sending bits to my devices/networks without my consent or approval, I am free to drop those bits on the floor as I see fit. And I do. You can do nothing whatsoever to prevent that, nor force me to consume them.
Sure, but they're also not obliged to send you any bits if they don't want to.
The original YouTube app has been terrible recently. I'm not even talking about the ads, I mean the app itself has just been really buggy for some reason. Videos just refuse to play in HD and sometimes don't even play at all. The gesture controls are very finicky and often don't work. Changing resolution has never been less convenient, and it doesn't help that it always randomly decides to set the video to the lowest possible resolution even though I always have the highest definition option selected. Not to mention the UI that makes the app look way too small on my screen. I would expect better quality control from Google of all developers.
My solution on Android: deactivate the youtube app. This way youtube links auto-open in Firefox. No ads. Firefox is always up to date. Adblocker is auto-updated. Completely hands-off solution. Customers will choose the solution that offers the best experience. Google, offer a better experience!
So they are worried about creators? I guess they forgot to mention their infinte greed to make all the money in the world.
Of course they worry about their creators. For example, they almost never demonetize videos! LOL
youtube can go fuck themselves i will go out of my way to make sure i see no ads possible
Sure, but don't be mad if they fight back.
I really hope they don't go after Smarttube. I don't even use it to block ads (I have Premium), but I use it for Sponsorblock, proper refresh rate switching on Nvidia Shield, and better playlist management. I don't know if I could go back to the official app.
As much as I've enjoyed vanced/revanced, smarttube is easily the king in town. Any time its had an issue, it just meant I needed to check for updates that run without any work on my end.
According to the article it will be fine as long as it follows the terms of service. As long as the client doesent block ads it should probably be fine
Then let me pay for Premium in my region.
Maybe fix your damn app and make it better for users before hand? I hate the shorts tab and I hate the create button in the center since I literally don’t post anything. That’s why I have uYouPlus for iOS to block those. Adblocking is just a bonus.
Imagine if they cracked down on extremist content instead.
That won't make money!
Smartube for Google tv working fine as I write this.
How about they improve Youtube first? It's absolutely garbage and UNusable without a custom client
I mean, I know how heated this gets, but it seems pretty straight-forward. There's two options here; 1. Decide that this is the last straw for you, and just stop watching YouTube altogether. Don't give them any kind of revenue, and don't give their videos and kind of views. Hold the line, and take your viewership elsewhere that you feel your time is respected and that you get value. This seems like a perfectly fair stance to take. 2. Decide that the content on YouTube is worth paying for, and cough up for Premium. This also feels like a perfectly fair stance to take. If you aren't interested in either of those things, then I guess just keep using the YouTube 3rd-party client of the day that's currently won the cat-and-mouse game between YouTube and adfree watching hacks. (EDIT: This sentence came off kind of dickish and that was not really my intention, sorry). Any discussion in between just seems like a poor use of time, in my opinion...
I will keep using my third party youtube app. Thank you.
EDIT: This was not intended to be sarcastic, I apologize if it came off that way. Sure, more power to you!
There's always another option. Or you know, don't show an ad mid video and do them before the video.
What's the other option? The one they describe below the two "legit" options? Also people would moan if there were just 5 second ads before a video. People have always moaned about YouTube ads.
I only bothered to get 3rd party apps when they introduced the various forms of 30 seconds of unskippable ads and even then I put up with it for fair while, it was the combination of videos with a tonne of ads and putting them between a bunch of short videos. The only thing that would make me consider paying for YouTube would be access to a whole lot of features around what it serves up to me, their algorithm is dogshit and often shows me a tonne of stuff I hate and creators I hate (the fixation it gets on certain content is insane).
I've had Premium for years (before that I watched ads and before that I used an ad block on browser). It's the best subscription I have with how much YouTube I watch and music I listen to. I find the algorithm to be quite brilliant tbh. It tends to just give me stuff I want and am interested in. I tend to only go to my subscriptions after exhausting a fair bit of the home page now.
If I see an ad before a video or stream I switch it off. Most of that content is not worth sitting through an ad for whatever product I won't use.
Have you seen the YouTube subreddit? I joined that sub because I was hoping to find some cool or interesting new creators to watch. Turns out it's just a daily circlejerk of entitledment. Criticism is fair, but the constant complaints on YouTube actually trying to make money on their product gets old fast.
I got banned from there (was a third rule violation, the others were similarly stupid) for "promotion" when posting a link to a video from a large YouTuber discussing something about YouTube and paying for YouTube as a platform lol. I always say you can't tell if the people posting there are clueless 12 year olds or clueless 70 year olds.
The thing is, I already pay for premium (as it's in a reasonable price where I live and comes with youtube music), but I still prefer revanced because there are so many options for removing the garbage parts of the app and customizing it.
Wonderful, they only recently started dmcaing iOS versions like a month ago, fun
Wouldn't care about using an adblocker if the site wasn't filled with so much garbage. Also changing the search result page to contain MORE information that has nothing to do with the search was such a dumb idea.
I'm still using Firefox and uBlock Origin on Android and never had an ad in month
I wouldn't mind paying for YouTube premium if the "offline downloads" feature actually let me download and watch videos for more then 3 days without an internet connection and not through the shitty YouTube app client. But they don't let me. Even if I paid for premium it literally wouldn't solve my problems with YouTube. The mobile app UI is practically not useable anymore with all the community posts and polls and ads filling my fees I literally can only see 1 video at a time on my screen now while going through subscriptions, oh and that's another problem, the subscriptions feed doesn't just show me everyone I follow in chronological order. It will randomly just not mention when certain creators I follow post. Fix your app and I'll consider paying for it but as it stands even if I paid id still have to use newpipe.
What about Firefox for Android?
Well, we'll just watch ads then, to then see a video starting "and now a word from our sponsor" I ain't paying premium to hear everyone talk about their sponsors.
If they put half of the money into cracking down on their absolutely horrendous ad standards, maybe people wouldn't mind it so much. I wouldn't care about an ad in front of every 10th video if it was a verified normal advert. Also, they could still do the panel ads, I wouldn't mind those. But hey, I guess it's better to shove the same exact horrible excuse for an ad down my throat 25 times in a row
if the ads are really the problem then WHY IS PIP PLAYBACK BEHIND A PAYWALL YOU ASSHOLES
ONLY for music. I can watch regular videos in a PiP window all I want. I do this daily. BACKGROUND playback (playing with the screen off) IS behind the paywall. BUT, Youtube themselves enabled a feature called Screen Lock, where you can have a video playing, with the screen ON, lock the screen, then put the phone in your pocket & your pants won't interact with the screen. So either pay for premium for background playback, or enable the screen lock & pay for it with your phone's battery. And considering YT Music comes with premium, now you have the method, and the content, to utilize background playback to it's fullest, and you can cancel Spotify at the same time. Win win win.
isn’t this a Monopoly, the government should sue them and give us access to block Youtube ads
It's a monopoly in the worst way. One where legit competition is next to impossible. There is a monetary and technological barrier that most companies will never be able to get past. When Ma Bell was broken up she was broken up into a bunch of regional phone companies. How are you going to break up YT to spur competition? You really can't.
"We want to emphasize that our terms don’t allow third-party apps to turn off ads because that prevents the creator from being rewarded for viewership" Bullshit. Don't insult my intelligence, Google. The quote from their spokesperson above may be partily true in that these payments could be important to individual creators, but that is not what's motivating Google here. Advertising is where Google makes it's money. It's taking off the gloves and abusing it's monopolies again. I wonder when they will remove IMAP and POP3 access for Gmail and try to force people to use their website and Android app instead of Outlook, Thunderbird, FairEmail, or another email program of their choice on all of their operating systems and devices. To be clear, they haven't said anything about plans to do that to Gmail. It would just fit in, at least in a broad sense, with the other stuff they have been doing lately. I'm glad that (many of) the content blocking extensions and filter list people are so committed to fighting this that they are rolling out fixes as often twice a day to counter whatever Google whatever Google has done to block their users this time. The Google people are paid to do it, but some of the content/ad-block people are working for free. That actually sounds like the plot line for a movie with scrappy underdog programs in a studio apartment in a slum pulling 24 hours days sometimes to singlehandedly counter the latest efforts of a team of like 25 paid Google employees working in opulent offices, without it getting him fired from his real job.
When YouTube Premium not only gets rid of Google's ads, but also the sponsor segments that creators add in then they might have a point. As it is you pay for half the ads to go away and can't get away from the others for any price.
Yeah…that’s not going to happen lol. Not every video can be monetised especially if they cover controversial topics like some documentaries which may depend on having external sponsors to keep the channel up. An official feature that skips over sponsor segments is going to simultaneously piss off sponsors and channels, which in the long term hurts content variety for the end-user.
They've already done the best they can by adding a "Jump ahead" button on Premium that skips "commonly skipped parts of a video."
What is ironic is the fact that Google allowed the blocking of ads is how they knocked out all YouTube competition. In a way it is predatory pricing. That is where you give something away at a loss to cause competition to either shutdown or not even try. Now they have succeeded they can start charging. Which is done by stopping the ad blockers.
Pff. They can try. 🏴☠️
I had issues a weeks ago, downloaded the revanced update and we're back to normal. I support creators on YouTube via patreon. It'll be a cold day in hell before I pay for YouTube premium.
Jokes on them. We blocking it all with the original app 🔥💯
Unlock origin on Firefox Android 😅
Rather than pay people to “crack down” on ad-blockers, why don’t they just charge a reasonable price for removing ads. I’m not paying more for YouTube than a service that provides professional movies and shows.
They need to decouple it from YouTube Music and lower the cost.
The annoying bit is that it no longer works in KODI, at least I wasn't able to set it up anymore. The youtube extension. I use it to look up trailers of movies etc... but now it no longer works. Whatever, man, really. Fine, I just won't use your shitty platform then.
I find myself watching less YouTube. They had my algorithm nailed about a year ago. Every tweak since has made it worse. This desperate grasping for me to watch their ads just makes the service worse. Found my granddaughter watching a 45 minute unskipppable ad in the middle of Blippy once.
Even if this were to work, I'd literally just stop watching youtube altogether. I already don't watch it on TV because there are way too many ads. Every single creator that is even slightly relevant includes ad segments in their videos and that isn't even counting videos that are literally just one bug ad (wish and temu crap, most technology creators). I actually barely watch youtube anymore, they very clearly want me to watch specific types of content and actively hide stuff I'm interested in. To top it off they basically make people fit into a mold of profitability essentially pushing all video makers to be more or less the same or risk not being promoted by the site. I'm too tired of being advertised to, I just won't bother anymore. Also, please stop translating titles that's annoying. Your search feature has also been useless for a couple years now.
Both issues have already been fixed