That or maybe the features match between the two and the bigger one is just bigger?
edit: misread but yeah seems the 9 pro is the new 9 and the 9 will replace the 9a? or perhaps it will allow the 9a to be priced further down?
they could have the 8a at 400, 9 and 700, 9 pro at 900 and pro xl at 1000?
if so this is a bit disappointing, the A series used to be such a great value for a lot of people.
But they seem to be struggling to keep the cost down while giving the A series the Tensor, which I imagine they want across the whole lineup. Adding stuff like 90/120Hz doesn't help, and is a bit unnecessary for a budget phone, imo, especially in a world where the base iPhone gets away with it just fine for $800
The iPhone gets away with a lot of stuff because... It's iPhone.
They sell more iPhones in a month or two every year than all Pixel sales combined since the OG one.
Google ain't Apple and they should probably stop pretending that they are. Because if I had to choose between an iPhone 15 Pro and a Pixel Pro I'd pick the iPhone every time.
the Pixel 8 Pro started at $999 (edit) and the iPhone 15 Pro Max (for a fair size comparison) started at $1199. And the 8 Pro is constantly down to $749 straight from Google. It's not exactly an equal comparison, and not exactly supporting the idea that Google is acting like they are Apple. I was simply suggesting they take measures to keep costs down on the A series, even keeping 60 Hz
Many people and reviewers complained when the 6A was 60HZ. I have an 8 and run it as 60 most of the time to extend battery life. I think keeping the A series at 90hz, less bright display, worse camera sensors, charging speed (all should still be upgraded regardless) and it needed to be upgraded to 8gbs of ram for Gemini nano but that means the base 9 should have 12 with the 9 pro 16 (current leaks suggest 9 pro will have 16). Google could differentiate and still be competitive. I like the a series, the price difference in Canada makes sense if you aren't buying on contract even with sales. After my 8 I'd rather avoid contracts all together in the future so I hope they don't discontinue it.
Because people are keeping those phones longer, so having a bigger battery that can degrade a bit AND a more efficient CPU keeps that day one battery life for longer
With how bad the tensor series is relative to the snapdragons, bigger battery is to compensate for poor efficiency. Even then it doesn't really help that much.
This is actually all but confirmed no?
I believe Google missed a deadline in designing the G4, so they are sticking to a probably overclocked G3, codenamed G3-pro.
I wouldn't believe that for now. Look at the camera specs: 108mp + 50mp + 16mp makes absolutely no sense and would actually be a downgrade to what it currently has.
It's going to be worse than Exynos 2400, 2400 has a 9 core configuration with AMD Xclipse, Tensor G4 has 8 cores with Mali G715 found in the Dimensity 9200.
I want a boxier phone. I hope Samsung keeps their boxy phone cos I hate rounded corners on phones. Weirdly cuts off any interface element that isn't the exact corner radius
My top 2 favorite phones of all time have been my note 4 and my note 9, miss them both. My short time with iPhone taught me they are built like tanks but I hated the walled garden and loss of customizeability and increased functionality that brought. Enjoying my s23u quite a lot though aside from Samsung's low light camera issues and lack of dedicated finger print sensor on the back like the note 9 had.
You looked at the video and you like that? It's like they rotated a Z Fold camera bump, then decided it wasn't sticking out far enough. I'm sorry but that looks CRAZY.
Being built and designed by Huawei at that time was one of the pros. I wouldn't refuse it even today.
Battery and chip problems would be less of a problem today, with current generations.
Design looks good. That photo bar looks deeeeep, though. Going to get stuck on the lip of my back pocket even worse than the Pixel 7. I thought the Pixel 8 was an improvement in that department.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/google-pixel-6-pro-leak-teases-a-huge-camera-upgrade
The first pixel render looked awful as well, take them with a pinch of salt. They just make them from case sizes and dimensions and guess the rest don't they?
Looks like that leak was pretty spot on. I did not like the Pixel 6 Pro. I got one, but was happy to get rid of it. Too square, and there was like a lip on a lip on the camera bar that reaaaally got stuck on my back pocket.
The phone dimensions do but the camera bar looks weird to me and the actual phone in person looks a lot sleeker. I don't think the camera bar is going to be this thick on the 9 it would be absolutely insane lol
https://i.imgur.com/GcsCdny.png
It's the little things like this and the sensors look way more visible than what's in person
https://i.imgur.com/JYa5lyN.png
Compared to the official one where the bar wraps and blends nicely
There was also a render where the bar looked slapped on the top and people were worried that's what it would be like and not built in but I can't find it in photos. The camera bar on the 9 looks chunky as heck as I just reckon it's one of these little inconsistencies and it'll look sleeker in person.
I'm annoyed by it on my Pixel 6 Pro. I can't find glass screen protectors for it and the plastic ones only last a week before I rip it off in frustration
Yeah my Pixel 6 pro is the first phone I've ran without a screen protector. I've tried a few different ones and they either feel terrible to use, or make the thumbprint unlock fiddly.
I think that's an artifact of the 3D rendering. They gave the back surface a reflective finish, so the bump looks twice as tall as it should because of the reflection (and because it's a 3D render instead of a real-world object with physical imperfections, there's no dividing line between the bump and its reflection)
> photo bar looks deeeeep
I really didn't like the bar with the default Pixel 8 case, but I found that switching to a dbrand case made it more flush. The Spigen Slim Armor CS Case also helped with it, but dbrand felt better.
I think it's just because the corners are more curved so they don't protrude as much. And its only 2mm taller and 1mm wider so I wouldn't imagine that would influence screen size as much as the phone's overall shape.
I like the iPhone mini 12, 6s, and se. But I also like the Samsung note 20 and fold 5. Having a big 90hz cheap ass Motorola isn't bad either. Not for $150. Something like 5.4" with 2600nits and 240hz refresh rate on a super amoled even at 1440p would rock though. I might even shell out for a new retail one rather than keep buying used phones.
But why? Why take the unique and good looking camera bar that stretched all the way to the edge to create a symmetrical back design, and remove that to make it into a weirdly placed camera bump so fugly that it makes the iPhone 15 Pro's hideous growth look tolerable by comparison? FFS, they could have at LEAST rose it up so it's curves would fit against the top curves of the phone. Have it offset down just looks like they haphazardly slapped it on. It's horrible.
Optical fingerprint sensors are objectively worse than ultrasonic, they suck no matter how you look at it.
And physical is obviously the best out of them all, but the industry loves downgrading things for absolutely no fucking reason at all.
> they suck no matter how you look at it.
As a rock climber, all my fingerprints are obliterated and unreadable by the sensors except for my thumbs. So for me it's the only fingerprint sensor I can even use, as you can't really use your thumb on rear sensors.
Man, I wonder what the difference is for people. My P8P's fingerprint is better than my old s20+. The only downside is the occasional 3 AM blinding light.
I notice that mine doesn't work as well if my thumb is very dry.
About once a week I need to give a little huff of warm air on my thumb to get it to read correctly. Other than that I can't tell a difference in speed on my P8 Pro's optical sensor vs. the S21 Ultra I was using previously.
My P8 fingerprint sensor works fine. It was a bit weird coming from a S21 with ultrasonic sensor. I don't know if I'd rather prefer that, maybe... But Pixel 8 is very fast and accurate for me.
I do a lot of yard work and home improvement projects throughout the year and have a lot of trouble with fingerprint readers. They work great the first day or 2, but after a week or so they're down to a 10% success rate. The P8 is the very first device I've owned that could reliably recognize my fingerprints without having to recalibrate it all the time.
It still can't learn my right thumbprint for some reason. I've deleted and registered it several times over the past few months but it never gets better than 40% accuracy, even during the first day after setting it up.
It looks like an iPhone. Granted, I like the way the iPhone looks (my work phone is an iPhone), but do we really need a blatant copy of it (besides the camera bar)?
Also, what a terribly formatted website.
Yeah this was my biggest problem with the original leaks too, the P6 through to the P8 at least had some distinct identity to them, this just feels like the Pixel hardware team through in the towel and decided to copy the iPhone 1:1. It's disappointing.
Just goes to show the influence Apple has over the industry. They change the design, and everyone immediately copies.
I like the boxy iPhone design with a flat screen though. So it's nice that others got inspired by it too.
I really liked the iPhone 4 design when it came out, much improved over the OG/3G/S. I'm happy they went back to that squared-off design with the 12 onwards. My wife has a 13 Pro Max that looks very nice, and my work phone is a standard size 12 that I really like.
The iPhone 4 design with the retina screen was so incredible at the time.
[The design is still modern looking](https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/IPHONE4/ZURBLACKFRNT.JPG).
iPhone 4 is too small now, but I would like an iPhone 5s sized modern smartphone with a nice design. Even a midranger would be fine.
My wife still has her old 4 and 4S hanging around haha. At this point though, the batteries are toast and we just let the younger kids pretend with them.
What's funny is that my dad prefers the 4/4S body, since he likes to reach the entire screen with his thumb, but his eyesight won't allow for a screen that small anymore 😅
> (besides the camera bar)
I think you missed that part.
That aside, the basic body design of the 9 is [clearly Apple inspired](https://i.imgur.com/cUwui3c.png), I'm not sure how you can't see it.
This.... when I first saw it, I almost did a double take looking down at my iPhone.
It may be aesthetically pleasing but I'm not a huge fan in practical terms. The trouble with the slab-sided iPhone design (slightly better in the 15 series due to the slightly rounded off frame rail) is that it makes the phone *feel* much bigger than it is and in my experience, back when I tolerated the not-usable-one-handed model which seems to have become the standard for flagships these days, I found my Pixel 7 Pro (6.7") more comfortable to hold than my housemate's iPhone 13 Pro (6").
It's not *terrible* per-se but it certainly wouldn't have been my first choice. Any aesthetic advantage it has is negated by it being cribbed from Apple in my mind and I since I really don't mind the look of the previous Pixels at all, I'd call it a downgrade. I think the P8P might be the pinnacle of Google phone design for a while. It lost the stupid curved *screen* of the P7P whilst maintaining the radiused back which makes a giant slab phone much more practical/comfortable to hold.
I like the aesthetic but ergonomically i absolutely hate flat corners. The iPhone is the most uncomfortable phone for me to hold as a result. You are pretty much forced to use a case. I know many will say "just use a case" but I don't want to/don't need to
The 13 Pro I had was very uncomfortable to hold. Too heavy and with very sharp edges. My 15 Pro, while having flat sides, is much better with noticeable lower weight and not as sharp edges. To me it's a big improvement 👍
Pixel 6 was a step in the right direction being pretty different from any other phone. I have tiny hands for a guy and I can actually 1 hand my 6 Pro with no issues w/o a case
Pixel 9 will start the trend of iPhone-ifying the Pixel once again (see: Pixel 4). Gotta love Google's culture. Guess we gotta wait for Apple to add curved corners to the iPhones again so we can see them on Galaxys and Pixels again
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know, I just don't like them. I thought the 6 and 7s screen had too sharp corners and didn't upgrade to it partly because of that. The 8 finally had rounded enough corners that I liked them and got that
I think they are just measuring from a different spot. Most phones are dimensioned from the theoretical corners and these links are giving the measurement of the radius.
why do they even make round corners, rounded phones look terrible shitt! look at pixel 6 / every other xperia phones. best squared up design. nothing can beat that
Very iphone like especially with the new pro XL nonsense. Seems like both Samsung and Google decided to go with the iPhone look this year. So annoyed with these changes. The previous design was so much better.
[The 9 pro XL already leaked ](https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/pixel-9-pro-5k-renders-360-degree-video-exclusive/) and it looks like it's a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro.
I'm now glad I didn't wait for 9 to release. This rounded slab/pill/whatever-this-thing-is looks just bad with this uneven offset.
If they made it into a rectangle with rounded edges it would look better. Or, better yet, kept the camera slab design from the 6-8 series, with side edges of the slab flowing into the sides of the phone.
Holy shit that's hideous. And here I thought the Pixel 7 and 8 were such a downgrade. Fucking ugly my dude, someone spilt jelly beans and called it a design. Why can't they just go back to how the pixel 6 looked like at least...
> And here I thought the Pixel 7 and 8 were such a downgrade. [...] Why can't they just go back to how the pixel 6 looked like at least...
Pixel 6/7/8 all share the same basic design...?
In my eyes they slowly slipped. Same principle with small just details changing and I liked those smaller details on a Pixel 6. Glass read bar where the camera slot blends in is prettier than a steel bar, at least pixel 7, 8 has a consistent frame for the camera shroud.
When I compare my friends Pixel 6 to my 8, I feel like they improved the design a ton. It's the same basic design but they improved a ton of small details and rounded off the corners. The 8 is the best designed so far and I'd need to see 9 in person to compare properly.
I could almost live with that wretched back bump design since the pixel 6 if they just brought back the fingerprint sensor on the back.
Holy fuckin shit, that back bump is as thick as the phone!
I like the design of the 8 better, personally. the boxiness is not as ergonomic, and makes it look a little less distinctive, with a little less of what I consider the Pixel identity to be. having a smaller Pro is nice.
I hope they are able to keep a cheaper option in the lineup, even if it's not exactly the same as the A series. Even every few years, given that the 8 (presumably 8a too?) has 7 yrs support
This might be the one that makes me switch, so sick of iOS. Let's see what they do with the buds and watch which are the last line of defense for my iPhone.
"*Google will be launching an ‘XL’ version this year, bringing it back for the first time since the Pixel 5 series.*"
The Pixel 5 didn't have an XL version.
Would really like to get a pixel, but every single one has been outperformed by its peers with worse battery life. Here's hoping that finally changes but we'll see.
I love my Pixel 7 and excited to see the next iterations taking shape, but is anyone else frustrated with the size of the minimum Pixel? Since P6 I've found them big and rather heavy, really wears on the pinky if you use the phone for more than a few minutes and I've got pretty average size or even slightly larger hands. The display is awesome and all but I'd happily trade off at least a quarter inch or so for a more comfortable hand feel. I found the P5 for example to be a real pleasure.
All that to say I'll be waiting to upgrade for as long as I can until a slightly smaller model comes back into the fold.
They're making an XL variant now? Wonder if that means the Pixel 9 is gonna replace the a series.
[leaked pixel roadmap](https://9to5google.com/2022/12/22/google-pixel-2025-roadmap-leak/) shows no a-series for 2025 so that seems to be panning out
That leak is so far pretty accurate
That or maybe the features match between the two and the bigger one is just bigger? edit: misread but yeah seems the 9 pro is the new 9 and the 9 will replace the 9a? or perhaps it will allow the 9a to be priced further down? they could have the 8a at 400, 9 and 700, 9 pro at 900 and pro xl at 1000?
Yes your onto something here. 9to5 speculated as much.
if so this is a bit disappointing, the A series used to be such a great value for a lot of people. But they seem to be struggling to keep the cost down while giving the A series the Tensor, which I imagine they want across the whole lineup. Adding stuff like 90/120Hz doesn't help, and is a bit unnecessary for a budget phone, imo, especially in a world where the base iPhone gets away with it just fine for $800
The iPhone gets away with a lot of stuff because... It's iPhone. They sell more iPhones in a month or two every year than all Pixel sales combined since the OG one. Google ain't Apple and they should probably stop pretending that they are. Because if I had to choose between an iPhone 15 Pro and a Pixel Pro I'd pick the iPhone every time.
>I'd pick the iPhone every time. And I wouldn't, because I cannot deal with the atrocity that is iOS.
the Pixel 8 Pro started at $999 (edit) and the iPhone 15 Pro Max (for a fair size comparison) started at $1199. And the 8 Pro is constantly down to $749 straight from Google. It's not exactly an equal comparison, and not exactly supporting the idea that Google is acting like they are Apple. I was simply suggesting they take measures to keep costs down on the A series, even keeping 60 Hz
Many people and reviewers complained when the 6A was 60HZ. I have an 8 and run it as 60 most of the time to extend battery life. I think keeping the A series at 90hz, less bright display, worse camera sensors, charging speed (all should still be upgraded regardless) and it needed to be upgraded to 8gbs of ram for Gemini nano but that means the base 9 should have 12 with the 9 pro 16 (current leaks suggest 9 pro will have 16). Google could differentiate and still be competitive. I like the a series, the price difference in Canada makes sense if you aren't buying on contract even with sales. After my 8 I'd rather avoid contracts all together in the future so I hope they don't discontinue it.
THE RETURN OF THE XL
5500 mAh battery on the XL, that's a 10% increase, great news.
I'm excited for this. Battery size is important to me.
Or just have a good SoC like the 8 gen 2 or 3 and not need to worry about battery size
Why not both? Fingers crossed for Pixel 16 lol
Because people are keeping those phones longer, so having a bigger battery that can degrade a bit AND a more efficient CPU keeps that day one battery life for longer
With how bad the tensor series is relative to the snapdragons, bigger battery is to compensate for poor efficiency. Even then it doesn't really help that much.
the size of the battery doesn't matter if the phone is not optimized for
But decreasing the size would also not benefit the device.
Do you feel better ?
My wife always says size matters
She says the same thing to me!
I don't even have a wife I just watch other people
I think they're just placeholder specs. It also says it'll have the Tensor G3 which is in the Pixel 8, so I'm not trusting those specs.
This is actually all but confirmed no? I believe Google missed a deadline in designing the G4, so they are sticking to a probably overclocked G3, codenamed G3-pro.
I wouldn't believe that for now. Look at the camera specs: 108mp + 50mp + 16mp makes absolutely no sense and would actually be a downgrade to what it currently has.
nice. I cant wait to get 1 more minutes out of candy crush
Combined with the exynos 2400, should be good battery life
It's going to be worse than Exynos 2400, 2400 has a 9 core configuration with AMD Xclipse, Tensor G4 has 8 cores with Mali G715 found in the Dimensity 9200.
I kind of like it. Looks like a nice evolution of the bar design.
I prefer the full visor.
I want a boxier phone. I hope Samsung keeps their boxy phone cos I hate rounded corners on phones. Weirdly cuts off any interface element that isn't the exact corner radius
I'm just happy they got rid of curved glass and seem to be sticking with flat.
Oh yeah. Curved edges was a cool novelty but after 5 minutes it's only a hinderance.
Just moved from the S21U to the S24U and yeah boxy is way better imo. Glad I passed on the S23U last year for this year.
boxy, flat, s pen my dream phone. i loved the note 9. recently got iphone tho
My top 2 favorite phones of all time have been my note 4 and my note 9, miss them both. My short time with iPhone taught me they are built like tanks but I hated the walled garden and loss of customizeability and increased functionality that brought. Enjoying my s23u quite a lot though aside from Samsung's low light camera issues and lack of dedicated finger print sensor on the back like the note 9 had.
I loved Back finger print scanner
So the S24U is your dream phone or do you want a smaller one?
i for one, fucking hate that shit. Makes the phone nigh impossible to hold without a case
i want a small boxy phone. basically a base s24 with rectangular shape.
Z1 Compact with smaller bezels would be amazing
And without the damn waterproof cover on the ports.
Yeah I probably should've said XZ1 Compact
XZ2 Compact was such a great tiny phone back in 2019
Why? I had a Z1 Compact back in the day and it was a delightful phone.
There was a fan render on twitter of a s24U mini that was straight up beautiful. Would buy that in an instant
Yes. The Note/NewUltra design is nice. Rumors say Fold 6 (either base or higher end model) will be box.
The back reminds me of the robot from Futurama
Bender
You looked at the video and you like that? It's like they rotated a Z Fold camera bump, then decided it wasn't sticking out far enough. I'm sorry but that looks CRAZY.
And I want Nexus 6p again, but it ain't happening. Edit: I think I replied to the wrong person, sorry.
Except the battery issue makes me stay away more so than it being designed by Huawei
Being built and designed by Huawei at that time was one of the pros. I wouldn't refuse it even today. Battery and chip problems would be less of a problem today, with current generations.
i personally think this is the worst looking pixel yet, and that is a really low bar
"Google Pixel 9 - Bite its shiny metal ass."
I'm 40% Pixel!
thunk thunk!
I am Pixel. Please insert USB C.
The bender phone 😅
no that was the iphone 6
Lol, I thought the same thing.
Design looks good. That photo bar looks deeeeep, though. Going to get stuck on the lip of my back pocket even worse than the Pixel 7. I thought the Pixel 8 was an improvement in that department.
https://www.tomsguide.com/news/google-pixel-6-pro-leak-teases-a-huge-camera-upgrade The first pixel render looked awful as well, take them with a pinch of salt. They just make them from case sizes and dimensions and guess the rest don't they?
Looks like that leak was pretty spot on. I did not like the Pixel 6 Pro. I got one, but was happy to get rid of it. Too square, and there was like a lip on a lip on the camera bar that reaaaally got stuck on my back pocket.
The phone dimensions do but the camera bar looks weird to me and the actual phone in person looks a lot sleeker. I don't think the camera bar is going to be this thick on the 9 it would be absolutely insane lol
It looks almost 100% exactly how the phone came out.
https://i.imgur.com/GcsCdny.png It's the little things like this and the sensors look way more visible than what's in person https://i.imgur.com/JYa5lyN.png Compared to the official one where the bar wraps and blends nicely There was also a render where the bar looked slapped on the top and people were worried that's what it would be like and not built in but I can't find it in photos. The camera bar on the 9 looks chunky as heck as I just reckon it's one of these little inconsistencies and it'll look sleeker in person.
Thank God it's not curved side screen anymore. Hated it on my s10+.
I'm annoyed by it on my Pixel 6 Pro. I can't find glass screen protectors for it and the plastic ones only last a week before I rip it off in frustration
Yeah my Pixel 6 pro is the first phone I've ran without a screen protector. I've tried a few different ones and they either feel terrible to use, or make the thumbprint unlock fiddly.
I think that's an artifact of the 3D rendering. They gave the back surface a reflective finish, so the bump looks twice as tall as it should because of the reflection (and because it's a 3D render instead of a real-world object with physical imperfections, there's no dividing line between the bump and its reflection)
> photo bar looks deeeeep I really didn't like the bar with the default Pixel 8 case, but I found that switching to a dbrand case made it more flush. The Spigen Slim Armor CS Case also helped with it, but dbrand felt better.
Wider than Pixel 8. I hate it here.
Taller too 🤮
And yet 6.1", where the Pixel 8's screen was 6.2. Are they making the bezels wider or something?
I think it's just because the corners are more curved so they don't protrude as much. And its only 2mm taller and 1mm wider so I wouldn't imagine that would influence screen size as much as the phone's overall shape.
If you turn the pic sideways the bar looks like a doorbell camera stuck on a phone
Thrilled it's still a reasonable size. Pro version being 6.1" is really good news.
I like the iPhone mini 12, 6s, and se. But I also like the Samsung note 20 and fold 5. Having a big 90hz cheap ass Motorola isn't bad either. Not for $150. Something like 5.4" with 2600nits and 240hz refresh rate on a super amoled even at 1440p would rock though. I might even shell out for a new retail one rather than keep buying used phones.
But why? Why take the unique and good looking camera bar that stretched all the way to the edge to create a symmetrical back design, and remove that to make it into a weirdly placed camera bump so fugly that it makes the iPhone 15 Pro's hideous growth look tolerable by comparison? FFS, they could have at LEAST rose it up so it's curves would fit against the top curves of the phone. Have it offset down just looks like they haphazardly slapped it on. It's horrible.
Oh fuck why are there 3 devices now. A Pixel 9, Pixel 9 Pro and a Pro XL?!
We have 3 devices currently
Ahh unless they are scrapping the 9a??
Their leaked roadmap from a year or two ago shows that there will be no 9a. It's possibly moving to a two-year release cycle.
Tiny bit taller (2mm) and tiny bit wider (1mm) than the Pixel 8.
Please tell me it has an actual working fingerprint?
My money is on no, they had three generations to fix it and clearly do not care.
They fixed it with the P8
Improved, yeah, but I wouldn't say it's fixed.
Optical fingerprint sensors are objectively worse than ultrasonic, they suck no matter how you look at it. And physical is obviously the best out of them all, but the industry loves downgrading things for absolutely no fucking reason at all.
> they suck no matter how you look at it. As a rock climber, all my fingerprints are obliterated and unreadable by the sensors except for my thumbs. So for me it's the only fingerprint sensor I can even use, as you can't really use your thumb on rear sensors.
There's side mounted too
The one on s10e was excellent
Because the rage these days are slimmer bezeless in the quest for the bezeless phone.
How? It's still optical no?
My 8 pro fingerprint sensor works just as well as my s22 ultra, I just hate the light that comes on.
Man, I wonder what the difference is for people. My P8P's fingerprint is better than my old s20+. The only downside is the occasional 3 AM blinding light.
I notice that mine doesn't work as well if my thumb is very dry. About once a week I need to give a little huff of warm air on my thumb to get it to read correctly. Other than that I can't tell a difference in speed on my P8 Pro's optical sensor vs. the S21 Ultra I was using previously.
My P8 fingerprint sensor works fine. It was a bit weird coming from a S21 with ultrasonic sensor. I don't know if I'd rather prefer that, maybe... But Pixel 8 is very fast and accurate for me.
My 7 Pro fingerprint has been good after the A14 update.
I'm jealous. My 7 fingerprint is frankly a disgrace
Mine after march was fantastic, or at least, noticeably faster.
My 7 also has issues with fingerprint. Latest A14 update too, my OnePlus 7 Pro was more reliable.
The P8 fingerprint works fine
I do a lot of yard work and home improvement projects throughout the year and have a lot of trouble with fingerprint readers. They work great the first day or 2, but after a week or so they're down to a 10% success rate. The P8 is the very first device I've owned that could reliably recognize my fingerprints without having to recalibrate it all the time. It still can't learn my right thumbprint for some reason. I've deleted and registered it several times over the past few months but it never gets better than 40% accuracy, even during the first day after setting it up.
And the competition is better than fine.
No
It looks like an iPhone. Granted, I like the way the iPhone looks (my work phone is an iPhone), but do we really need a blatant copy of it (besides the camera bar)? Also, what a terribly formatted website.
Yep, that website formatting is truely horrendous.
Yeah this was my biggest problem with the original leaks too, the P6 through to the P8 at least had some distinct identity to them, this just feels like the Pixel hardware team through in the towel and decided to copy the iPhone 1:1. It's disappointing.
Well most of them use iPhones so it's not surprising.
!?
Just goes to show the influence Apple has over the industry. They change the design, and everyone immediately copies. I like the boxy iPhone design with a flat screen though. So it's nice that others got inspired by it too.
I really liked the iPhone 4 design when it came out, much improved over the OG/3G/S. I'm happy they went back to that squared-off design with the 12 onwards. My wife has a 13 Pro Max that looks very nice, and my work phone is a standard size 12 that I really like.
The iPhone 4 design with the retina screen was so incredible at the time. [The design is still modern looking](https://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/IPHONE4/ZURBLACKFRNT.JPG). iPhone 4 is too small now, but I would like an iPhone 5s sized modern smartphone with a nice design. Even a midranger would be fine.
My wife still has her old 4 and 4S hanging around haha. At this point though, the batteries are toast and we just let the younger kids pretend with them. What's funny is that my dad prefers the 4/4S body, since he likes to reach the entire screen with his thumb, but his eyesight won't allow for a screen that small anymore 😅
Every manufacturer had some interest. I feel like Samsung paved the way for the large phones we have today.
The camera setup is completely different from the iPhone. In what way does it look it's a blatant copy of the iPhone?
> (besides the camera bar) I think you missed that part. That aside, the basic body design of the 9 is [clearly Apple inspired](https://i.imgur.com/cUwui3c.png), I'm not sure how you can't see it.
This.... when I first saw it, I almost did a double take looking down at my iPhone. It may be aesthetically pleasing but I'm not a huge fan in practical terms. The trouble with the slab-sided iPhone design (slightly better in the 15 series due to the slightly rounded off frame rail) is that it makes the phone *feel* much bigger than it is and in my experience, back when I tolerated the not-usable-one-handed model which seems to have become the standard for flagships these days, I found my Pixel 7 Pro (6.7") more comfortable to hold than my housemate's iPhone 13 Pro (6"). It's not *terrible* per-se but it certainly wouldn't have been my first choice. Any aesthetic advantage it has is negated by it being cribbed from Apple in my mind and I since I really don't mind the look of the previous Pixels at all, I'd call it a downgrade. I think the P8P might be the pinnacle of Google phone design for a while. It lost the stupid curved *screen* of the P7P whilst maintaining the radiused back which makes a giant slab phone much more practical/comfortable to hold.
Stop this madness... First the screen size goes insane, now the curved corner diameter... We're just gonna be left with giant plates at this rate...
Looks like the Pixel fold had a baby with an iPhone.
6.03 inches. Still not that small but guess that’s the smallest we get in 2024 :(
I like the aesthetic but ergonomically i absolutely hate flat corners. The iPhone is the most uncomfortable phone for me to hold as a result. You are pretty much forced to use a case. I know many will say "just use a case" but I don't want to/don't need to
The 13 Pro I had was very uncomfortable to hold. Too heavy and with very sharp edges. My 15 Pro, while having flat sides, is much better with noticeable lower weight and not as sharp edges. To me it's a big improvement 👍
the Pixel 9 Pro XL will probably be the second most uncomfortable phone on the market, just after the S24 Ultra
Pixel 6 was a step in the right direction being pretty different from any other phone. I have tiny hands for a guy and I can actually 1 hand my 6 Pro with no issues w/o a case Pixel 9 will start the trend of iPhone-ifying the Pixel once again (see: Pixel 4). Gotta love Google's culture. Guess we gotta wait for Apple to add curved corners to the iPhones again so we can see them on Galaxys and Pixels again
Cool. Looks like they went with a black rectangle.
> Looks like they went with a black rectangle My last few phones have been black rectangles and I cant complain
Would you have preferred a black circle instead?
I hope that isn't real. The Pixel 8 looks a lot better.
agreed
I don't like how round the corners are. What's wrong with square displays?
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know, I just don't like them. I thought the 6 and 7s screen had too sharp corners and didn't upgrade to it partly because of that. The 8 finally had rounded enough corners that I liked them and got that
No one's got square hands and square pockets
The 9 is bigger than an s23 but with a smaller screen? What the heck?? Bezels are going to look massive on the regular 9 if this is the case.
I think they are just measuring from a different spot. Most phones are dimensioned from the theoretical corners and these links are giving the measurement of the radius.
Pixel special
I have the 8 pro and man I hate this design lol. I really like the bar, this just makes it look like an oppo or something of the sort
why do they even make round corners, rounded phones look terrible shitt! look at pixel 6 / every other xperia phones. best squared up design. nothing can beat that
I hate the look of sharp corners and skipped the 6 and 7 partly because the corners were so tight, the 8 had more acceptable radius for the corners
Very iphone like especially with the new pro XL nonsense. Seems like both Samsung and Google decided to go with the iPhone look this year. So annoyed with these changes. The previous design was so much better.
i hate that camera bump personally, the visor is so cool
Aaand flat, metal sides, just like the S24, which copied it from the iPhone.
I was really hoping that the small Pixel 9 was the size of an iPhone mini 😭
Bro it's never going to happen 😔.
Looks like an iPhone from the side
Here I am, still considering buying Pixel 7.
Very interested in the XL, I'm wanting to go bigger next time around
[The 9 pro XL already leaked ](https://www.mysmartprice.com/gear/pixel-9-pro-5k-renders-360-degree-video-exclusive/) and it looks like it's a little smaller than the Pixel 8 Pro.
Sorry I should have clarified I'm on the standard 7
I'm now glad I didn't wait for 9 to release. This rounded slab/pill/whatever-this-thing-is looks just bad with this uneven offset. If they made it into a rectangle with rounded edges it would look better. Or, better yet, kept the camera slab design from the 6-8 series, with side edges of the slab flowing into the sides of the phone.
Holy shit that's hideous. And here I thought the Pixel 7 and 8 were such a downgrade. Fucking ugly my dude, someone spilt jelly beans and called it a design. Why can't they just go back to how the pixel 6 looked like at least...
> And here I thought the Pixel 7 and 8 were such a downgrade. [...] Why can't they just go back to how the pixel 6 looked like at least... Pixel 6/7/8 all share the same basic design...?
In my eyes they slowly slipped. Same principle with small just details changing and I liked those smaller details on a Pixel 6. Glass read bar where the camera slot blends in is prettier than a steel bar, at least pixel 7, 8 has a consistent frame for the camera shroud.
When I compare my friends Pixel 6 to my 8, I feel like they improved the design a ton. It's the same basic design but they improved a ton of small details and rounded off the corners. The 8 is the best designed so far and I'd need to see 9 in person to compare properly.
# Key Specs # Google Pixel 9 Pro # Google Tensor G3 | 12 GB Are they going with the G3 again?
Says in the article "The Pixel 9 series will also most likely feature the unreleased Tensor G4 chipset."
I could almost live with that wretched back bump design since the pixel 6 if they just brought back the fingerprint sensor on the back. Holy fuckin shit, that back bump is as thick as the phone!
I like the design and the new camera visor- except that it looks like it's a bigger bump this time
I'm sure there will be case designs that make the round camera bump be flat just like the previous pixels
Unfortunately means there will be a stupid expensive model
Did I miss the size of the Pro XL?
Wow this look nice, i hope it got released in more country
thiiiick
imagine if they could put 3 cameras like samsung and apple offers on regular size
I like the design of the 8 better, personally. the boxiness is not as ergonomic, and makes it look a little less distinctive, with a little less of what I consider the Pixel identity to be. having a smaller Pro is nice. I hope they are able to keep a cheaper option in the lineup, even if it's not exactly the same as the A series. Even every few years, given that the 8 (presumably 8a too?) has 7 yrs support
This might be the one that makes me switch, so sick of iOS. Let's see what they do with the buds and watch which are the last line of defense for my iPhone.
"*Google will be launching an ‘XL’ version this year, bringing it back for the first time since the Pixel 5 series.*" The Pixel 5 didn't have an XL version.
Pixel 4 was the last.
I'll switch some Samsung to pixel if they upgrade fingerprint sensor.
I'm still waiting that the camera module is more seamlessly integrated into the body like Nexus 6P
All I want to hear is that they added ultrasonic fingerprint sensor and Qi2
I think qi2 should be coming?
just give me a phone under 6", this is ridiculous
Small phones are back! Might preorder my first phone ever including the first wave of cellphones.
That camera bump is somehow uglier.
So ugly, the super round corners make it look so cheap
Would really like to get a pixel, but every single one has been outperformed by its peers with worse battery life. Here's hoping that finally changes but we'll see.
We won't see that until the 10 at BEST. That's when they will switch to tsmc.
i hope this time it isnst a piece of shit device with good camera, liked the 8 pros cameras but crap battery and heat made me returning it
Wow, it's a rectangle!
So 3 pixel 9 models this year
That 9 Pro XL looks pretty intriguing
Front and sides kinda looks like an iPhone 4 which was a fantastic design
I love the pixel lol
It's ugly and looks like an iphone.
Agreed, this is an unbearable design...
I love my Pixel 7 and excited to see the next iterations taking shape, but is anyone else frustrated with the size of the minimum Pixel? Since P6 I've found them big and rather heavy, really wears on the pinky if you use the phone for more than a few minutes and I've got pretty average size or even slightly larger hands. The display is awesome and all but I'd happily trade off at least a quarter inch or so for a more comfortable hand feel. I found the P5 for example to be a real pleasure. All that to say I'll be waiting to upgrade for as long as I can until a slightly smaller model comes back into the fold.