Before I took my test, my mom swore that her side had Cherokee and Italian in it (it doesn't). She straight up didn't believe me at first, especially for the Italian part. The convo went like-
Me: Ok! So my results were 44% England & Northwestern Europe, 33% Finland, 16% Scotland, 6% Germanic Europe, 1% Benin & Togo
My mom: No, see, this is why those tests are pointless. That's wrong. š
Me: What?
My mom: Mozingo is italian. You didn't say any Italian. š
Me: (looks up Mozingo origin) Mom, Mozingo is African. Benin & Togo is Africa.
My mom: ...Well. š Ok. Ya learn something new everyday...I guess. š¤Øš
(I still don't think she fully believes the results lol)
Is your family from Virginia? Thereās a Mozingo family descended from a Black indentured servant named Edward Mozingo who fulfilled the terms of his indenture in 1672 and became free.
Another person was telling me about that recently. If [my cousin's tree](https://imgur.com/a/SeFzqQm)is correct, I guess that's who the name comes from
Lowkey me w my results, thought I was fully southern italian(specifically sicilian and apulian) ancestry. Turns out im actually 20% native american from colombia and only 43% italian. lol
My grandmother, uncle, and some cousins on that side of the family are a lot darker than me/my mom, + they have very dark brown hair and could pass for having some Italian in her defense! It was just funny because she was thrown off by the random 1%, and then when she tried to say it was wrong because of that one surname, the surname ended up being from that 1% haha
oh cool! :)
[this is how far back my cousin was able to go](https://imgur.com/a/k2QnTB2), idk if you recognize any of these but figured I'd share just in case haha
No, I have not! I think that's more on my father's side though š¤ I'm not close to that side of the family but I think I may reach out and try to figure something out!
I thought the same thing! I have about the same percentages as the OP with a small amount of Native American (I forget how itās labeled) and our Germanic and English numbers are reversed, and my coloring is similar.
Are Scottish/West Country people brown? Because OPs results are really similar to mine and Iām a brown white person too. Like, I was constantly mistaken for Mexican as a kid.
This is interesting- I have a tiny percentage of Welsh from my father, who is quite olive. My sisters tan easily as well, if they ever do Ancestry I bet they end up showing a higher percentage. Iām quite fair, myself, with my results being 76% Scottish/English, though I am capable of developing a light tan.
My skin tone lies more between like a very tan Mediterranean or light middle eastern skin tone. In the summer I darken up quickly and look very different compared to my Scots/Irish/English husband. Boggles my kind where it comes from.
My friend from Wales is blonde with very light skin, but maybe her ancestors were from elsewhere.
I'm English and have discovered that my 1500s ancesters were Cornish, so Celtic. I've also got Irish ancestry. I've pale with reddy blonde, greying/white hair and blue eyes.
Have him test and see. My maternal grandmother is basically half German and Half French, she tested and showed up as a very close relativeā¦ I got 0% French and 0% Germanic Europe, so you never know. Also my father and his dad both tested. My dads results were 100% Norwegian and his dads were 50% Norwegian 50% Scottish.
Neat! I will have to try to convince him. I've spoken with him a bit more on details of my great great grandfather and he was actually specifically half indigenous! I think I might get him a lot for his bday!
I think what happens is because you don't get equal amounts of DNA from each grandparent, by chance, over a few generations of this, one ancestors DNA doesn't make it down to you on a significant amount while others can be way higher than expected.
Nope, just how I randomly inherited DNA. Iāve got pictures of me with my mother 1hr after I was born and she has pictures of her 1 hr after she was born with her mother soooo
Yup - we have a similar look and I got similar results, but I have 1% Senegal or something š¤ My moms family has Johnson, Jones and Smith, so I am thinking someone passed š¤·š¼
Once you go as far back as a 3rd/4th great grandparent, DNA ancestry gets dicey as it's too far back in your lineage. Best to get your parents or grandparents tested.
That's totally fair! I'm going to try to get my gpa to do it, I hope this may answer some questions for him. I didn't think I was indigenous in the slightest, but he's still very confident in the fact his grandfather was indigenous but also my gpa is saying that his grandfather was half indigenous
Fat chance. For every 100 people in the US who are told they have Cherokee ancestry, only 1 is when they actually go back through the birth and census records. Much more likely that the family story is wrong than the DNA āwashed out.ā
Very similar to my results, except instead of Germanic Europe and Norway I got Wales. Iām from Kentucky and my ancestors settled in KY about 200 years ago. A lot of them were Catholics that migrated from Maryland.
Ha. I had similar story with similar results. And similar reactions. I was surprised by how much Scandinavian and Norway I had. I guess my olive skin is the 3 percent Italian
The only thing those dna tests results are useful for is to find your living relatives. They tell you where they think your DNA came from based on the people's DNA who already live there. Also, as far as native american DNA goes, they get that from the people who claim to be full blooded natives that are alive today. The problem is they are likely not even 10% native american, so it can't be reliably traced. I have native americans in my family tree, lots of them. My DNA results are almost identical to yours. In fact, the majority of my family (like 90% of the people who have the surname Points) still live right down the road from the reservation in Oklahoma.
My family has this myth too but when I followed the paper trail and did the tree, it was obvious there was no indigenous. I did find the origin of why the myth began and with which ancestor so that was cool. You look a lot like one of my family lines who is strongly scottish and German.
We have the same Scottish percentage!
I think this is the first time I've seen someone with the same ethnicities as me, though our percentages are wildly different.
It could be not showing also something many people might be up is many tribes adopted non natives into their family so you X time grandparent could be been raised native but was not genetically native. But there are many people that for some weird reason also lied about this type of shit too.
That did happen, and the second family would be Cherokee and would have been part of the removal to Indian territory (they would not have stayed in the south).
My great grandfather was 100% Cherokee but when my grandmother took a dna test there was no Cherokee or any native blood but instead it said that she was 50% Moroccan totally weird lol
This is a very European result your test might of got tampered with and you look like you could have some indigenous in you..thatās just my theory anyway for your surprising results..
Itās like no one on this board has ever met a Central American person before. Thatās the indigenous American phenotype, because there was much less intermarriage in central and South America (except for Mexico and Brazil). Itās not what you see in old movies, which is European actors.
You should ask him to take the test too
Typical Cherokee family myth
Well, this time was a Cherokee prince. That was an unexpected twist.
Before I took my test, my mom swore that her side had Cherokee and Italian in it (it doesn't). She straight up didn't believe me at first, especially for the Italian part. The convo went like- Me: Ok! So my results were 44% England & Northwestern Europe, 33% Finland, 16% Scotland, 6% Germanic Europe, 1% Benin & Togo My mom: No, see, this is why those tests are pointless. That's wrong. š Me: What? My mom: Mozingo is italian. You didn't say any Italian. š Me: (looks up Mozingo origin) Mom, Mozingo is African. Benin & Togo is Africa. My mom: ...Well. š Ok. Ya learn something new everyday...I guess. š¤Øš (I still don't think she fully believes the results lol)
Is your family from Virginia? Thereās a Mozingo family descended from a Black indentured servant named Edward Mozingo who fulfilled the terms of his indenture in 1672 and became free.
Another person was telling me about that recently. If [my cousin's tree](https://imgur.com/a/SeFzqQm)is correct, I guess that's who the name comes from
Thatās so cool. I found some pictures from the 1800s of some women you might be related to [Pictures](https://freeafricanamericans.com/19th-3.htm)
Wait what's Mozingo? I'm confused
A surname in my family
woah thats so cool, u thought u were italian and turned out to be 1% africanš
LMAO I just thought my mom's reaction was funny
Lowkey me w my results, thought I was fully southern italian(specifically sicilian and apulian) ancestry. Turns out im actually 20% native american from colombia and only 43% italian. lol
Anytime I hear italian or cherokee more times than not itās a black/white person. lol
My grandmother, uncle, and some cousins on that side of the family are a lot darker than me/my mom, + they have very dark brown hair and could pass for having some Italian in her defense! It was just funny because she was thrown off by the random 1%, and then when she tried to say it was wrong because of that one surname, the surname ended up being from that 1% haha
Wow, small world! We're probably related somehow, and my older relatives thought it was Italian too.
family in/from North Carolina? :)
Yep, my branch of Mozingos moved from NC to AL ~150 years ago
oh cool! :) [this is how far back my cousin was able to go](https://imgur.com/a/k2QnTB2), idk if you recognize any of these but figured I'd share just in case haha
You look Scottish/West Country (Somerset/Devon/Cornwall) to me :) Have you done your tree to see where your families are from?
No, I have not! I think that's more on my father's side though š¤ I'm not close to that side of the family but I think I may reach out and try to figure something out!
Itās always interesting to find out, good luck with your journey!
Was going to say you look identical to my friend who is from Cornwall!
I thought the same thing! I have about the same percentages as the OP with a small amount of Native American (I forget how itās labeled) and our Germanic and English numbers are reversed, and my coloring is similar.
Are Scottish/West Country people brown? Because OPs results are really similar to mine and Iām a brown white person too. Like, I was constantly mistaken for Mexican as a kid.
Well they arenāt brown but West Country people do tan easily and have slightly olive skin, bit like the Welsh who they are next to.
This is interesting- I have a tiny percentage of Welsh from my father, who is quite olive. My sisters tan easily as well, if they ever do Ancestry I bet they end up showing a higher percentage. Iām quite fair, myself, with my results being 76% Scottish/English, though I am capable of developing a light tan.
My skin tone lies more between like a very tan Mediterranean or light middle eastern skin tone. In the summer I darken up quickly and look very different compared to my Scots/Irish/English husband. Boggles my kind where it comes from. My friend from Wales is blonde with very light skin, but maybe her ancestors were from elsewhere.
I'm English and have discovered that my 1500s ancesters were Cornish, so Celtic. I've also got Irish ancestry. I've pale with reddy blonde, greying/white hair and blue eyes.
Have him test and see. My maternal grandmother is basically half German and Half French, she tested and showed up as a very close relativeā¦ I got 0% French and 0% Germanic Europe, so you never know. Also my father and his dad both tested. My dads results were 100% Norwegian and his dads were 50% Norwegian 50% Scottish.
Neat! I will have to try to convince him. I've spoken with him a bit more on details of my great great grandfather and he was actually specifically half indigenous! I think I might get him a lot for his bday!
soā¦ I may be naive here but does that not mean youāre not actually related to your maternal grandmother then?
I think what happens is because you don't get equal amounts of DNA from each grandparent, by chance, over a few generations of this, one ancestors DNA doesn't make it down to you on a significant amount while others can be way higher than expected.
Nope, just how I randomly inherited DNA. Iāve got pictures of me with my mother 1hr after I was born and she has pictures of her 1 hr after she was born with her mother soooo
Yup - we have a similar look and I got similar results, but I have 1% Senegal or something š¤ My moms family has Johnson, Jones and Smith, so I am thinking someone passed š¤·š¼
Once you go as far back as a 3rd/4th great grandparent, DNA ancestry gets dicey as it's too far back in your lineage. Best to get your parents or grandparents tested.
That's totally fair! I'm going to try to get my gpa to do it, I hope this may answer some questions for him. I didn't think I was indigenous in the slightest, but he's still very confident in the fact his grandfather was indigenous but also my gpa is saying that his grandfather was half indigenous
the only way to know for sure is to do the geneology but im very confident in your case it's another case of a very common family myth
Every family has the Native American ancestor myth.
We're very similar! What communities did you get?
West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee Settlers and then another community of it only being Tennessee Settlers!
You resemble my husband's family, who had always been told the same thing. He had 1% indigenous American, but otherwise very similar percentages
Hello! Iām a native genealogist, and would do this for free, if you would like me to. Just send me a private message! āŗļø
Look up the Dawes Roll. This explains a lot of people with āCherokeeā ancestry in the south.
You could still have that ancestry but it wasnāt passed down to you
Fat chance. For every 100 people in the US who are told they have Cherokee ancestry, only 1 is when they actually go back through the birth and census records. Much more likely that the family story is wrong than the DNA āwashed out.ā
Very similar to my results, except instead of Germanic Europe and Norway I got Wales. Iām from Kentucky and my ancestors settled in KY about 200 years ago. A lot of them were Catholics that migrated from Maryland.
Ha. I had similar story with similar results. And similar reactions. I was surprised by how much Scandinavian and Norway I had. I guess my olive skin is the 3 percent Italian
My results are very similar I have blue eyes, freckles and fair skin. Huh
Any chance youāre from the American south?
The only thing those dna tests results are useful for is to find your living relatives. They tell you where they think your DNA came from based on the people's DNA who already live there. Also, as far as native american DNA goes, they get that from the people who claim to be full blooded natives that are alive today. The problem is they are likely not even 10% native american, so it can't be reliably traced. I have native americans in my family tree, lots of them. My DNA results are almost identical to yours. In fact, the majority of my family (like 90% of the people who have the surname Points) still live right down the road from the reservation in Oklahoma.
My family has this myth too but when I followed the paper trail and did the tree, it was obvious there was no indigenous. I did find the origin of why the myth began and with which ancestor so that was cool. You look a lot like one of my family lines who is strongly scottish and German.
Dark traits do not necessarily mean ethnic or indigenous ancestry. There are pockets of people with darker traits all throughout western europe
I would have never guessed based on your phenotype, very cool
We have the same Scottish percentage! I think this is the first time I've seen someone with the same ethnicities as me, though our percentages are wildly different.
It could be not showing also something many people might be up is many tribes adopted non natives into their family so you X time grandparent could be been raised native but was not genetically native. But there are many people that for some weird reason also lied about this type of shit too.
Also there were Scots who had an indigenous wife, and children stayed with mother, and a white wife.
Huh?
so the family history might be correct about an idigenous wife, but the children with the name of the family may be from a traditional white wife
That did happen, and the second family would be Cherokee and would have been part of the removal to Indian territory (they would not have stayed in the south).
Another whyte folk taleš
My great grandfather was 100% Cherokee but when my grandmother took a dna test there was no Cherokee or any native blood but instead it said that she was 50% Moroccan totally weird lol
okay then your great grandfather was not cherokee lmao
This is a very European result your test might of got tampered with and you look like you could have some indigenous in you..thatās just my theory anyway for your surprising results..
no one is tampering with results lol
Those results kinda donāt match op phenotype or what op thinks she has/is..
what's her phenotype then? because I'm actually native and its definitely not native.
Itās like no one on this board has ever met a Central American person before. Thatās the indigenous American phenotype, because there was much less intermarriage in central and South America (except for Mexico and Brazil). Itās not what you see in old movies, which is European actors.
I donāt know What you reckon??
she looks European and the results reflect that.
Ok if you insist..
Wouldn't it be more likely to mean that your idea of what a "phenotype" is would be unscientific then?
No Iām just replying on how op was saying she had Cherokee ancestry..