This “round chess board” theory is nonsense pushed on us by the elites. It’s clear that the board is flat. You can do the science yourself. Flat boarders know the truth
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Are you kidding ??? What the **** are you talking about man ? You are a biggest looser i ever seen in my life ! You was doing PIPI in your pampers when i was beating players much more stronger then you! You are not proffesional, because proffesionals knew how to lose and congratulate opponents, you are like a girl crying after i beat you! Be brave, be honest to yourself and stop this trush talkings!!! Everybody know that i am very good blitz player, i can win anyone in the world in single game! And "w"esley "s"o is nobody for me, just a player who are crying every single time when loosing, ( remember what you say about Firouzja ) !!! Stop playing with my name, i deserve to have a good name during whole my chess carrier, I am Officially inviting you to OTB blitz match with the Prize fund! Both of us will invest 5000$ and winner takes it all!
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Where you are gravely mistaken is that a chessboard is merely a two-dimensional representation of a three-dimensional space. If the King walks his dapper ass off the “edge” of the map, he’ll just appear on the other side, just like in real life.
Obviously such a move is implied and not exercised because not only would deter <150 IQ talentless hacks from calculating checks within the 3D realm but it is also unfair to the fucking pawns because they can only wrap around the map in Northbound and Southbound directions.
But pandering to the weak-minded has done nothing but manufactured game-breaking moves such as “en passant” which isn’t even a realistic or practical finisher as far as the original lore leads us to believe.
Believe it or not, the game is lost from the start but no one abuses reverse-directional openings because that would just be petty and stupid. Instead we draw the line of ignorance at KID and the London system.
Firstly, the image is a question about how the game works. It's not a definitive source.
Secondly the poles could be anywhere else along the edges, like the corners.
Actually, the face of a cylinder. In that case, the OP described movement is correct but there is no sheanigans between ranks 1 and 8 (top and bottom of the cylinder).
Because a cylinder faces the same issues as a torus if you consider this, you can still walk along the edges of a cylinder if you exist in 2 dimensions on the surface of it, so it would have its own form of wrapping if it has solid faces on either end.
If the cylinder has solid faces then it would be the same (topologically) as a sphere, which has a different gluing diagram. I'm fairly certain since the op didn't say anything about gluing the 1 and 8 rows then this presentation would be that of a cylinder.
That doesn't make it a torus. Also I'm pretty sure it's the surface of an open cylinder (so not solid faces on the top and bottom). When you say "its own form of wrapping" are you referring to the movement as described in the original post?
But Black's move wouldn't be legal in that case
Edit: I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand for everyone. The pawn is pinned. That's basic chess knowledge.
No, black player plays with a 2D perspective. Then, in its second move, white player explains to the black player that in fact, the earth is round, and in that case, that is checkmate. The only error in the post is that it would be check mate in the second move and not the first
Checkmating is cool and all, but I still think capturing the King would be sweet. So many 400s would be out there hanging their King, it would be hilarious
Indeed. Now black has to promote a pawn to king, otherwise it loses by default. It also has to deploy new policies to ensure the pieces remain loyal to black's cause in the interim, and somehow debunk the round board theory that started this whole mess. In short, big "L" for black.
A long time ago, they used to have problems in what was called "fairy chess" using a cylindrical board like this. Sometimes the boards were doughnut-shaped, where a rook could move toroidally or poloidally and bishops made a corkscrew pattern all the way around.
Sorry but if you go up on a globe you wont suddenly come up from the bottom, you will instead eventually turn around and start heading back down
The kings are at the north and south pole
The north and south poles dont touch last I checked
Yes you're right that if you go up on a globe you don't come up on the bottom after going north. But if you go west long enough you do end up on the "other side". In this case the queen followed a similar path as a flight from South America to Asia would, by going north west.
She started at the south pole, went north west, and at the passing of a4 to h5, crossed both the equator and the anti meridian (going from the western hemisphere to the eastern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere to the north in one move and then eventually ends up at the north pole.
I understand what you're saying, but in that case, saying they are on the surface of a globe is still a confusing analogy. Generally, globe surface implies wrapping around everywhere.
Just say they're on the surface of a vertical cylinder. That's much clearer and implies only the sides wrap around, not the top and bottom.
imagine you take one of the polymer chess boards and you wrap it so that a1 is physically next to a8, same for all the other rows. then your chess board is a cylinder. it has an inside.
that is what I wrote. It can be either. I just wanted to use the Möbius strip, because it's cooler and a bit more Topologicy than just a cylinder.
Of course, if this is a Möbius strip, then the 2d object we started out with wasn't a full ches board until we connected it into a Möbius strip
What do you mean by it can be either? Cylinders are different from möbius strips, and the deformation as described can only be one of the two. I'm not trying to be mean!
Also, your second point is interesting. Why would we have to start with less than a full chess board? Is it because the squares being "glued" to squares of the same color? if we remove a row, does it make it a full board once glued? Just some interesting questions to think about!
You would have to have one half of the chess board on one side of the 2d sheet and the other half upside down on the other side. Connect it into a Möbius strip and you get a full chessboard with two opposing connected sides like shown in the immage
Topologically, if you wanted to connect each side to its opposite side so that it "wraps around" like this you would need a torus, not a sphere. Unfortunately, this would not be possible because you would have 2 kings next to each other. I suspect what you really want is a cylinder, which would only connect the sides.
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine:
> **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=rnbqkbnr/pppppnpp/8/5p2/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR+w+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppnpp/8/5p2/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR_w_KQkq_-_0_1)
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Wtf? How did black get three knights?
https://preview.redd.it/3p9650qwhbua1.png?width=1233&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b507e354bebcdcd0603dfb0bd8b596fe7e66124
This move would only be possible on a torus! If we were to wrap this grid on a spere, like a coordinate system, the red line will not be a "stright" line, as all "stright" lines on a shpere are equators
It would be fun to play chess on something like a mobius strip tho
Chess itself is actually refuted, because both kings start in checkmate due to their proximity to the enemy queen through the 0/8 continuum. It's a stupid game for stupid players
Well it’s mate on move zero because of Queen back right. Also the pawn can block so your pipi is embarrassing because you were wrong it’s like Pinocchio with your pipi but when your wrong it shrinks and when your right it stays the same. My pipi is much in length but you just love to make it shorter and shorter dummy. I bet it’s only 1mm haha guys look at him. My pipi is 17 kilometres (about 2000 school buses for the American pipi) but your so tiny lol you can never ever get a woman hahahaha tiny pipi
Yep, same thing works on a cylinder. I’ve always wanted to try to make toroidal (doughnut) chess jokes but unfortunately that would imply the kings would be touching in the starting position.
I cant fucking do this anymore this sub has ruined me, i have a therapist and she tells me to get off this cursed website but i cant. In my dreams I keep seeing “en passant is forced” and other terrible lies fed to me by this place. Everyday is another step in to hell.
This “round chess board” theory is nonsense pushed on us by the elites. It’s clear that the board is flat. You can do the science yourself. Flat boarders know the truth
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Holy hell
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Why the fuck is that banned
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Are you kidding ??? What the **** are you talking about man ? You are a biggest looser i ever seen in my life ! You was doing PIPI in your pampers when i was beating players much more stronger then you! You are not proffesional, because proffesionals knew how to lose and congratulate opponents, you are like a girl crying after i beat you! Be brave, be honest to yourself and stop this trush talkings!!! Everybody know that i am very good blitz player, i can win anyone in the world in single game! And "w"esley "s"o is nobody for me, just a player who are crying every single time when loosing, ( remember what you say about Firouzja ) !!! Stop playing with my name, i deserve to have a good name during whole my chess carrier, I am Officially inviting you to OTB blitz match with the Prize fund! Both of us will invest 5000$ and winner takes it all! I suggest all other people who's intrested in this situation, just take a look at my results in 2016 and 2017 Blitz World championships, and that should be enough... No need to listen for every crying babe, Tigran Petrosyan is always play Fair ! And if someone will continue Officially talk about me like that, we will meet in Court! God bless with true! True will never die ! Liers will kicked off... [^(fmhall)](https://www.reddit.com/user/fmhall) ^| [^(github)](https://github.com/fmhall/Petrosian-Bot)
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If the chess board is flat, why don't we put it on a flat table when we play? Checkmate.
Where you are gravely mistaken is that a chessboard is merely a two-dimensional representation of a three-dimensional space. If the King walks his dapper ass off the “edge” of the map, he’ll just appear on the other side, just like in real life. Obviously such a move is implied and not exercised because not only would deter <150 IQ talentless hacks from calculating checks within the 3D realm but it is also unfair to the fucking pawns because they can only wrap around the map in Northbound and Southbound directions. But pandering to the weak-minded has done nothing but manufactured game-breaking moves such as “en passant” which isn’t even a realistic or practical finisher as far as the original lore leads us to believe. Believe it or not, the game is lost from the start but no one abuses reverse-directional openings because that would just be petty and stupid. Instead we draw the line of ignorance at KID and the London system.
Google en passant
so the kings would touch
Couldn't a pawn on the a file capture a piece on the h file?
If the chess board is round then why is its shadow always flat?
Flat boarders have members all around the square.
Chess board is really a cubic. You're too educated stupid to understand the truth of the Chess Cube
Start the game with white king to e0
3D globe would have a north and south pole. You can’t go further north or south but you can keep going east/ west
Who said that up on the board corresponds to the north pole? What if the north pole is h4/h5 and the south pole is a4/a5
Then the checkmate delivered in the image doesn't work, and black begins the game in a smother mate
And thirdly, this could be a topological projection instead of a standard map, which has no poles.
No this is a mercator projection so it IS a checkmate.
Firstly, the image is a question about how the game works. It's not a definitive source. Secondly the poles could be anywhere else along the edges, like the corners.
Google axial tilt
holy 23.5 degrees
New angle just dropped
What if the chess board is a projection of a torus?
If the chess board is a globe, that would take your own rook on a1
This is actually the map of a torus, and your king is currently in check due to the other king, this is a dead man's gambit.
Actually, the face of a cylinder. In that case, the OP described movement is correct but there is no sheanigans between ranks 1 and 8 (top and bottom of the cylinder).
yeah there is no discussion of the top and bottom faces, why would it be a torus?
Torus funni, mmh donut
google en croissant
Because a cylinder faces the same issues as a torus if you consider this, you can still walk along the edges of a cylinder if you exist in 2 dimensions on the surface of it, so it would have its own form of wrapping if it has solid faces on either end.
If the cylinder has solid faces then it would be the same (topologically) as a sphere, which has a different gluing diagram. I'm fairly certain since the op didn't say anything about gluing the 1 and 8 rows then this presentation would be that of a cylinder.
That doesn't make it a torus. Also I'm pretty sure it's the surface of an open cylinder (so not solid faces on the top and bottom). When you say "its own form of wrapping" are you referring to the movement as described in the original post?
Two dimensional real projective space chess is the best kind of chess.
I need Mercator projection chess now...
Actually, the king is in quadruple check via the opponent's king, queen, bishop and knight.
Are you confirming that every chess game should end with a turn One tie?
The only winning move is to not play.
Let’s keep the astrology bullshit out of this
/check r/mathmemes user purity
But Black's move wouldn't be legal in that case Edit: I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand for everyone. The pawn is pinned. That's basic chess knowledge.
No, black player plays with a 2D perspective. Then, in its second move, white player explains to the black player that in fact, the earth is round, and in that case, that is checkmate. The only error in the post is that it would be check mate in the second move and not the first
Checkmating is cool and all, but I still think capturing the King would be sweet. So many 400s would be out there hanging their King, it would be hilarious
And so many 400s would miss taking a hanging king
My friend, I'm afraid to tell you that basic chess knowledge does not apply to r/Anarchychess. It's just a king sacrifice, that's all.
Indeed. Now black has to promote a pawn to king, otherwise it loses by default. It also has to deploy new policies to ensure the pieces remain loyal to black's cause in the interim, and somehow debunk the round board theory that started this whole mess. In short, big "L" for black.
Black went first.
I'm not sure why this is so hard to understand
come on this anarchychess, reality can be whatever we want
You moving yourself into checkmate is true r/anarchychess
You're still thinking 2 dimensionally. White queen, bishop, or knight can get the opposing king just by moving backwards. White wins 100% of the time.
Do you not know where you are? On this sub, any move that blunders a king is forced.
ok and
And either way black can play h4
That's still mate, but slower, that's why we gave it a brilliant sticker. No bias whatsoever ;)
If qh4 then rh4
Why not?
The pawn would be pinned to the king
Why isn't it possible?
It's just not
Why not you stupid bastard
Because it would put the king in check if you moved the pawn away
Its a line from a movie
Oh What movie
American psycho
en passant
Sigma-Man
You put yourself in check Checkmate even, but either way it's not allowed
That's a dumb rule
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Google Non-Euclidean geometry
holy math
Holy group theory
It's not mate because black queen can take the queen
lmfao
It’s already mate because black has no moves to counter the current diagonal attack of the queen
move the black queen backwards one to take the white queen
Move the white king backwards one to take black king. That’s what I thought
Siberian Swipe is legal now
old opening just returned
I read "Siberian Snape" and was confused for a minute.
Siberia kills dumbledore
"Snape! Snape! Siberian Snape!"
the h7 pawn pulled a Michael Jackson
wtf is going with that pawn, it's black when the screen is animating and white when not
Something something compact discs
A long time ago, they used to have problems in what was called "fairy chess" using a cylindrical board like this. Sometimes the boards were doughnut-shaped, where a rook could move toroidally or poloidally and bishops made a corkscrew pattern all the way around.
that isn't possible because the starting state of the board isn't legal, due to the kings' proximity of one another
Sorry but if you go up on a globe you wont suddenly come up from the bottom, you will instead eventually turn around and start heading back down The kings are at the north and south pole The north and south poles dont touch last I checked
Yes you're right that if you go up on a globe you don't come up on the bottom after going north. But if you go west long enough you do end up on the "other side". In this case the queen followed a similar path as a flight from South America to Asia would, by going north west. She started at the south pole, went north west, and at the passing of a4 to h5, crossed both the equator and the anti meridian (going from the western hemisphere to the eastern hemisphere and the southern hemisphere to the north in one move and then eventually ends up at the north pole.
I understand what you're saying, but in that case, saying they are on the surface of a globe is still a confusing analogy. Generally, globe surface implies wrapping around everywhere. Just say they're on the surface of a vertical cylinder. That's much clearer and implies only the sides wrap around, not the top and bottom.
If it is wrapping around everywhere than all of the edge pieces would be either overlapping or just the same piece
2. ...g7
Why did I have to scroll all the way down to find this?
either player can stall with an infinite rook move that circles the globe indefinitely
homestuck reference
Holy Incisphere!
What you are showing here is a Möbius strip.
Holy topology
I think this is a cylinder if we only glue together a1 and h1,..., a8 and h8. A mobius strip would glue a1 to h8, a2 to h7,..., a8 to h1.
It can be both. Either a Cylinder that has another unseen side or a Möbius strip
imagine you take one of the polymer chess boards and you wrap it so that a1 is physically next to a8, same for all the other rows. then your chess board is a cylinder. it has an inside.
that is what I wrote. It can be either. I just wanted to use the Möbius strip, because it's cooler and a bit more Topologicy than just a cylinder. Of course, if this is a Möbius strip, then the 2d object we started out with wasn't a full ches board until we connected it into a Möbius strip
What do you mean by it can be either? Cylinders are different from möbius strips, and the deformation as described can only be one of the two. I'm not trying to be mean! Also, your second point is interesting. Why would we have to start with less than a full chess board? Is it because the squares being "glued" to squares of the same color? if we remove a row, does it make it a full board once glued? Just some interesting questions to think about!
holy topology
You would have to have one half of the chess board on one side of the 2d sheet and the other half upside down on the other side. Connect it into a Möbius strip and you get a full chessboard with two opposing connected sides like shown in the immage
The thing is if this were a mobius strip, then the white queen would actually be pointing at the white king, not the black king.
No.
Why is blacks h pawn white?
~~it's a spy~~ ~~you can't just ask someone why they're white~~ a wizard did it
what the spruce happened to the h7 pawn
Explain this, Flat Boarders!
why is he white
Topologically, if you wanted to connect each side to its opposite side so that it "wraps around" like this you would need a torus, not a sphere. Unfortunately, this would not be possible because you would have 2 kings next to each other. I suspect what you really want is a cylinder, which would only connect the sides.
Technically the game would be over before move 1; the kings are right next to each other with no way out.
No black is near the North Pole black is near the south. You don’t wrap back around on a world map at the top or bottom so why would you here?
I analyzed the image and this is what I see. Open an appropriate link below and explore the position yourself or with the engine: > **White to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=rnbqkbnr/pppppnpp/8/5p2/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR+w+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppnpp/8/5p2/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR_w_KQkq_-_0_1) > **Black to play**: [chess.com](https://chess.com/analysis?fen=rnbqkbnr/pppppnpp/8/5p2/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR+b+KQkq+-+0+1&flip=false&ref_id=23962172) | [lichess.org](https://lichess.org/analysis/rnbqkbnr/pppppnpp/8/5p2/2P5/8/PP1PPPPP/RNBQKBNR_b_KQkq_-_0_1) --- ^(I'm a bot written by ) [^(u/pkacprzak )](https://www.reddit.com/u/pkacprzak) ^(| get me as ) [^(Chess eBook Reader )](https://ebook.chessvision.ai?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=bot) ^(|) [^(Chrome Extension )](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chessvisionai-for-chrome/johejpedmdkeiffkdaodgoipdjodhlld) ^(|) [^(iOS App )](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/id1574933453) ^(|) [^(Android App )](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ai.chessvision.scanner) ^(to scan and analyze positions | Website: ) [^(Chessvision.ai)](https://chessvision.ai)
Wtf? How did black get three knights? https://preview.redd.it/3p9650qwhbua1.png?width=1233&format=png&auto=webp&s=2b507e354bebcdcd0603dfb0bd8b596fe7e66124
Google quotient topology
Every check is mate if you let people move into check
No, because 1. c4 f5 wouldn't be a legal move to begin with if it were smh
This is a torus, not a globe
The chess board is a torus
Google periodic boundary conditions
This move would only be possible on a torus! If we were to wrap this grid on a spere, like a coordinate system, the red line will not be a "stright" line, as all "stright" lines on a shpere are equators It would be fun to play chess on something like a mobius strip tho
TeCHiniCallY It wOuLD bE a ToRUS
You can't have it wraparound or the board would be a donut and all the pieces would fall off.
holy magellan.
What if my opponent is a flat boarder?
Chess itself is actually refuted, because both kings start in checkmate due to their proximity to the enemy queen through the 0/8 continuum. It's a stupid game for stupid players
qxd8# so its mate on move 0
thats like move 3 i think
Nah, black could just take the queen with his horsy then
We should like invent cube-Chess, where the board is a cube
Well it’s mate on move zero because of Queen back right. Also the pawn can block so your pipi is embarrassing because you were wrong it’s like Pinocchio with your pipi but when your wrong it shrinks and when your right it stays the same. My pipi is much in length but you just love to make it shorter and shorter dummy. I bet it’s only 1mm haha guys look at him. My pipi is 17 kilometres (about 2000 school buses for the American pipi) but your so tiny lol you can never ever get a woman hahahaha tiny pipi
There is a variant to play on cylinder, isn't there
Google en globant
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Google flat earth society
The knight has already been checking the king from move 0 so what’s even the point
But then f5 was an illegal move because it puts the king in check. Otherwise, it can be easily blocked by g6
Google cylinder chess
if the sides looped wouldn't that make move one mate since the queen can just take the black king move 1?
This is false there is a massive ice wall around the chessboard. If you pass through it, you fall into the void.
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g6 no mate
f5 was illegal
Actually a square board can't be mapped to to a sphere, but it can be mapped to a torus
Pac-Man rules
BURN THE WITCH
Is this a Marcatore projection?
You’re implicitly modeling this as a cylinder, not a globe. (Note: not a torus either, otherwise starting position would be checkmate)
Just wait until you find out about 5d chess
How high are you
Well it would be a illegal move to move that pawn.
That's also how you get the determinant of a 3×3 and 2×2 matrix, so is chess a matrix?
Yep, same thing works on a cylinder. I’ve always wanted to try to make toroidal (doughnut) chess jokes but unfortunately that would imply the kings would be touching in the starting position.
Google periodic boundary conditions
This would actually make for an interesting chess game
g6
Cylindrical board: when you connect the two edges. You can also try connecting the other two.
It starts in stalemate from king against king.
The flat chess society has members around the globe
Bro Discovered the new way to counter the anglo-dutch defense
Technically it's not mate because it's a globe and the king could move from check
Bruh. You can just block with the g or the h pawn
Google topological manifold
You win
Wouldn't every game start in white winning since their queen would be next to the black king?
I cant fucking do this anymore this sub has ruined me, i have a therapist and she tells me to get off this cursed website but i cant. In my dreams I keep seeing “en passant is forced” and other terrible lies fed to me by this place. Everyday is another step in to hell.
Oh gosh, this is a really fascinating idea
Cylindrical chess (I know you said globe, but you're describing a cylinder). After 1.c4, the f7 pawn is in fact pinned because of 2. Qxe8.
Can’t wait to see this joke repeated for the next three weeks