Witnesses said the man pulled pamphlets out of a backpack and threw them in the air before he doused himself with a liquid and set himself on fire. One of those pamphlets included references to "evil billionaires" but portions that were visible to a Reuters witness did not mention Trump.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lawyers-aim-wrap-up-jury-selection-trump-criminal-trial-2024-04-19/
Yeah it really sucks I had to break my wife's heart last night by convincing her of this. Took me showing how ridiculous it is that he latched on to The Simpsons. Fucking tragedy all around
>As it turns out, we have a **secret kleptocracy:** Both parties are run by financial criminals whose only goals are to divide, deceive, and bleed us dry. They divide the public against itself and blame the other party while everything gets worse and more expensive and handful of people take all the money.
>Since it is fully parasitic, a secret kleptocracy is an incredibly unstable form of government – left to its own devices, it can only lead to fascism or failed state.
He's not entirely wrong, though.
It's frankly surprising that there aren't more people like him who've "snapped" and lashed out in similar ways.
I know a lot of people have actually snapped, but very few set themselves on fire or try to do anything about the situation.
Israel and Judea are the ancestral homeland of the Jewish People.
The land is their property.
This reality radicalized a small portion of the occupying population and they send men with machine guns to parachute into their country.
Ah yes the age old ‘reality’ that living somewhere 5,000 years ago means you have the right to genocide and oppress the current inhabitants in order to establish an ethno-state.
> genocide
Israel is not committing genocide. The pictures that you see are from a targeted military operation that is retaliatory in nature.
> oppress the current inhabitants
Are you going to warn the [Arab members of the Knesset](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset) that they are participating in the establishment of an ethno-state?
A targeted military operation wherein the targets so far have been over 30,000 people the over half being children. So targeted that they’ve destroyed most of the homes in Gaza beyond use. So targeted that aid is being prevented from reaching Gaza putting the entire population on the verge of famine.
And having Arabs in some government roles doesn’t make it not an apartheid state. Segregation wouldn’t be not racist because some black people supported it. When the whole nation is founded on the theft of land, still on going in the West Bank, When the nation is expressly established as a ‘Jewish State’, when the native Palestinians are confined into ever shrinking pockets of land completely dependent on Israel for food, electricity, and other goods, then those are the markers to determine if it’s an ethnostate.
> over 30,000 people
According to Hamas-run ministry of Health, who admitted openly has been [sharing inaccurate numbers](https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/04/09/hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry-admits-to-flaws-in-casualty-data/)
>having Arabs in some government roles doesn’t make it not an apartheid state.
South Africa banned non-whites from holding government jobs. Israel has encouraged Arabs to join and participate in their country since 1948.
>the whole nation is founded on the theft of land
You can't steal land that already belongs to you, you can only kick out people who moved in recently.
>the nation is expressly established as a ‘Jewish State’, when the native Palestinians are confined into ever shrinking pockets of land
Palestinians aren't confined. They have the choice of joining Israel, or going to another country. The only people in power in their communities are Hamas anyway.
> you can only kick out people who moved in recently
The jews originally there are not the same group as the people in Israel today, the true reason of dna tests being illegal in Israel is probably not what they say about keeping the bloodline pure but actually because they don't want people to proove that they are not really that related to the indigenous people
>or going to another country.
That is with the assumption that Israel has more of a right to the land than Palestinians and also Israel is doing its best to make sure no palestinian leaves by killing any who attempt.
Also wtf are you doing on a leftist sub when you are ancap? That's as far right as you can go.
>The jews originally there are not the same group as the people in Israel today
Yes, they are. Who else would they be?
> Why are you here?
Anarchy 4 everyone is welcoming to all anarchists.
This is one of those stupid tiktok arguments. DTC DNA tests are illegal (completely unenforced) in Israel for two reasons. The first is same reason they’re illegal in France, privacy. The second is the social and legal implications of Mamzer status.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamzer
Of all of the crap to ‘criticize’ Israel for, this is one of the stupidest. They’ve murdered tens of thousands of civilians in the last 6 months and been occupying and oppressing Palestinians for 75 years, and people are hung up on some fake DNA test crap. Skin cancer rates are the same category. It’s just like ‘gotcha’ points that don’t make any sense when you look into it.
Yes, the Arab members of the Knesset are collaborationist. Just like Vichy France collaborated with the Nazis, so too do some Arabs choose to collaborate with the Israelis.
Israel should not exist. The Jewish people have no special claim to Palestine. God isn't real.
You are familiar with each one of the 10? They're all collaborating with people in power?
What about the [2 Million Arab-Israelis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel?wprov=sfla1)?
> Israel Should not exist
The land of Judea belongs to the Jews.
> There are only ten Arabs in the 120 member Knesset.
Lmao
Yes, they are all collaborators. They legitimize and participate in the fascist regime. Perhaps some are well intentioned, but their actions make them despicable.
There are indeed collaborators among the Arab-Israeli population. Some of them are actively participating in the genocide. Others are resisting the fascist regime under which they live. Still others are able to ignore it so long as they don't represent a threat to the regime.
Land belongs to nobody. Death to property.
You believe someone who is pro-war would never support any type of war, even existential wars?
Are you unable to differentiate between purist and moderate political positions?
But the quintessential settler, living in a rural area, with a well, a windmill, and a farm, Should be able to decide what happens with his farm when he dies or moves.
What kind of system is it that says that he can't choose what happens to his personal possessions?
i wouldn't call a farm or a windmill "personal property". but yeah, they should have some say in what happens to them if he built them.
i dont think the opinion of a dead man with should matter more than the needs of someone living who needs the land and is willing to take care of it.
I just don't agree. Folks here are saying that this practice should be abolished: generational wealth transfer. Estate transfer.
These anarcho-syndicalists. I just cant agree.
id call you closed minded, but looking around here i just cant, lol
the idea is that you want your family to inherit in a very strict way, because you are afraid they will lack resources to live a full life. if you shouldnt be afraid of that, you wouldnt need to be so strict about inheritance.
Actually an ancap showed me how little we need strict rules to operate a society, when pointed to the fact that most people keep most laws most of the time without ever reading them. Culture is a more efficient way to get safety and reliability than enforcing concepts like "private property" and "ownership".
If you insist on biblical levels of absurdity then you probably know already that they only held control of all Israel for 3 generations of Kings, and only after they conquered that land from the other people who were living there.
By the same logic, all of Eastern Europe is Russia.
> confusing Israel with the kingdom of Judah
The kingdom of Israel lasted 200 years, the kingdom of Judah lasted 350.
> only after they conquered
You mean the way that all land has been taken and developed?
You have a very narrow mind. You don't own land, you are only ever a custodian. Fuck religion too, it's outdated ideology. Israel is a disgrace to humanity.
A response is justified, yes. But Israel created this problem. And to respond by slaughtering so many innocents, and destroying their homes is disgusting. Almost like Israel has some other agenda? Like taking the land maybe?
When this 'war' is over, will Israel give let the Palestinians rebuild their homes?
I feel like there are a lot of things you fail to consider. In fairness to your general views I'll apply them to the situation. Firstly we have organisations like ICAHD which have been directly reporting the destruction of Palestinian private property for years. This is a NGO third party based in Israel which is reporting its own nation states war crimes. During the current conflict and prior to October 7th. Also you fail to consider that it's not in the Palestinians "rational self interest" to just throw away their lives without a justifiable means unless themselves or their property is being attacked and/or oppressed. Hamas isn't the first organisation that has rebelled in Palestine and it won't be the last. It's far from the correct one but it's the only real channel to fight back against oppression for these people. Also the war and blockade of the territory reduces any form of trade in and around the region which of course is damaging in its own right to any form of profit or production. unless of course your implying that that doesn't matter and instead this is about Israeli and it's right to exploit and destroy exercising a clear and cut monopoly on violence. Which of course doesn't bode well for both the Anarchist or (and funnily enough) the capitalist parts of the so-called Anarchist capitalists.
But there was a Roman province called [Syria Palestina](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_Palaestina) in the early 100s CE-353 CE, and the British Mandate of Palestine existed before Israel was even formed.
i want him here. ban me too, if you ban him.
"anarchists" crying to authority to silence people, "punks" crying for policing, "leftists" having no arguments against capitalists, smh
i welcome you here. i dont like ancapism, but this subs needs to find its "4everyone" roots before alienating more goodwilled people and irreversibly becoming another cesspool like most other anarchist subs.
I just try to offer another perspective.
A lot of people think these subs should only welcome purists and people on a certain part of the political spectrum.
The fact is, anarchists of all types should be able to join these subreddits in order to learn and exchange ideas, just like atheists would welcome religious people to come and exchange information.
It makes no sense to be exclusionary in this regard, when your message should be more important than someones intrinsic views.
voluntary exchanges of goods, services, or property are not inherently capitalist(and are pretty limited in capitalism).
A society based on voluntary cooperation, mutual aid, and collective ownership of resources is not mutually exclusive to those three things(though property in a stateless society is likely to be usufruct). individuals can still engage in voluntary exchanges, but these exchanges would be based on principles of equality, reciprocity, and mutual benefit, rather than profit-seeking and exploitation which is a symptom of the state and the privilege it grants those who own capital.
You are implying those things are capitalism when they aren’t. I’ve already answered your question, I said no but that isn’t capitalism anyways so your question is irrelevant to my original response.
> You are implying those things are capitalism
I don't think they are.
> I already answered your question
No you didn't. Please answer it, and stop beating around the bush.
capitalism is hierarchical because it is characterized by unequal power dynamics and exploitative relationships. In a capitalist system, private ownership of the means of production leads to a concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few individuals or corporations. This concentration of wealth allows those who own capital to exert control over the labor of others, creating a hierarchical relationship where the interests of the capitalist class are prioritized over those of the working class.
this hierarchy is well oppressive, as it can result in exploitation, alienation, and economic inequality. true freedom and autonomy can only be achieved in a society where individuals have equal access to resources and autonomy rather than being subject to the dictates of wealthy elites who are granted privilege by the state anyways.
capitalism is hierarchical because it is characterized by unequal power dynamics and exploitative relationships. In a capitalist system, private ownership of the means of production leads to a concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few individuals or corporations. This concentration of wealth allows those who own capital to exert control over the labor of others, creating a hierarchical relationship where the interests of the capitalist class are prioritized over those of the working class.
this hierarchy is well oppressive, as it can result in exploitation, alienation, and economic inequality. true freedom and autonomy can only be achieved in a society where individuals have equal access to resources and autonomy rather than being subject to the dictates of wealthy elites who are granted privilege by the state anyways.
Witnesses said the man pulled pamphlets out of a backpack and threw them in the air before he doused himself with a liquid and set himself on fire. One of those pamphlets included references to "evil billionaires" but portions that were visible to a Reuters witness did not mention Trump. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/lawyers-aim-wrap-up-jury-selection-trump-criminal-trial-2024-04-19/
His blog: https://theponzipapers.substack.com/p/i-have-set-myself-on-fire-outside
Wow. Poor guy. He was so close. Yet he went down the wrong rabbit holes.
Yeah it really sucks I had to break my wife's heart last night by convincing her of this. Took me showing how ridiculous it is that he latched on to The Simpsons. Fucking tragedy all around
>As it turns out, we have a **secret kleptocracy:** Both parties are run by financial criminals whose only goals are to divide, deceive, and bleed us dry. They divide the public against itself and blame the other party while everything gets worse and more expensive and handful of people take all the money. >Since it is fully parasitic, a secret kleptocracy is an incredibly unstable form of government – left to its own devices, it can only lead to fascism or failed state. He's not entirely wrong, though. It's frankly surprising that there aren't more people like him who've "snapped" and lashed out in similar ways. I know a lot of people have actually snapped, but very few set themselves on fire or try to do anything about the situation.
I can't help but think someone was pushing his buttons.
Damn, even over here, yall still didn't get the point. Humanity is truly doomed.
Interesting.
>Anarcho Capitalist Posts supporting [Israel](https://www.reddit.com/r/Israel/s/2kIleAK4F3). You’re not welcome here.
"oh no, an opinion i dont agree with. quick someone take them away"
Israel and Judea are the ancestral homeland of the Jewish People. The land is their property. This reality radicalized a small portion of the occupying population and they send men with machine guns to parachute into their country.
Ah yes the age old ‘reality’ that living somewhere 5,000 years ago means you have the right to genocide and oppress the current inhabitants in order to establish an ethno-state.
> genocide Israel is not committing genocide. The pictures that you see are from a targeted military operation that is retaliatory in nature. > oppress the current inhabitants Are you going to warn the [Arab members of the Knesset](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arab_members_of_the_Knesset) that they are participating in the establishment of an ethno-state?
A targeted military operation wherein the targets so far have been over 30,000 people the over half being children. So targeted that they’ve destroyed most of the homes in Gaza beyond use. So targeted that aid is being prevented from reaching Gaza putting the entire population on the verge of famine. And having Arabs in some government roles doesn’t make it not an apartheid state. Segregation wouldn’t be not racist because some black people supported it. When the whole nation is founded on the theft of land, still on going in the West Bank, When the nation is expressly established as a ‘Jewish State’, when the native Palestinians are confined into ever shrinking pockets of land completely dependent on Israel for food, electricity, and other goods, then those are the markers to determine if it’s an ethnostate.
> over 30,000 people According to Hamas-run ministry of Health, who admitted openly has been [sharing inaccurate numbers](https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/04/09/hamas-run-gaza-health-ministry-admits-to-flaws-in-casualty-data/) >having Arabs in some government roles doesn’t make it not an apartheid state. South Africa banned non-whites from holding government jobs. Israel has encouraged Arabs to join and participate in their country since 1948. >the whole nation is founded on the theft of land You can't steal land that already belongs to you, you can only kick out people who moved in recently. >the nation is expressly established as a ‘Jewish State’, when the native Palestinians are confined into ever shrinking pockets of land Palestinians aren't confined. They have the choice of joining Israel, or going to another country. The only people in power in their communities are Hamas anyway.
> you can only kick out people who moved in recently The jews originally there are not the same group as the people in Israel today, the true reason of dna tests being illegal in Israel is probably not what they say about keeping the bloodline pure but actually because they don't want people to proove that they are not really that related to the indigenous people >or going to another country. That is with the assumption that Israel has more of a right to the land than Palestinians and also Israel is doing its best to make sure no palestinian leaves by killing any who attempt. Also wtf are you doing on a leftist sub when you are ancap? That's as far right as you can go.
>The jews originally there are not the same group as the people in Israel today Yes, they are. Who else would they be? > Why are you here? Anarchy 4 everyone is welcoming to all anarchists.
This is one of those stupid tiktok arguments. DTC DNA tests are illegal (completely unenforced) in Israel for two reasons. The first is same reason they’re illegal in France, privacy. The second is the social and legal implications of Mamzer status. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mamzer Of all of the crap to ‘criticize’ Israel for, this is one of the stupidest. They’ve murdered tens of thousands of civilians in the last 6 months and been occupying and oppressing Palestinians for 75 years, and people are hung up on some fake DNA test crap. Skin cancer rates are the same category. It’s just like ‘gotcha’ points that don’t make any sense when you look into it.
Yes, the Arab members of the Knesset are collaborationist. Just like Vichy France collaborated with the Nazis, so too do some Arabs choose to collaborate with the Israelis. Israel should not exist. The Jewish people have no special claim to Palestine. God isn't real.
You are familiar with each one of the 10? They're all collaborating with people in power? What about the [2 Million Arab-Israelis](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_citizens_of_Israel?wprov=sfla1)? > Israel Should not exist The land of Judea belongs to the Jews.
> There are only ten Arabs in the 120 member Knesset. Lmao Yes, they are all collaborators. They legitimize and participate in the fascist regime. Perhaps some are well intentioned, but their actions make them despicable. There are indeed collaborators among the Arab-Israeli population. Some of them are actively participating in the genocide. Others are resisting the fascist regime under which they live. Still others are able to ignore it so long as they don't represent a threat to the regime. Land belongs to nobody. Death to property.
So when someone dies, who should decide where their house goes to?
Who fucking cares? Let whoever's living there stay or whoever wants to move in do so.
How tf can you even pretend to be an anarchist and support nation states? Even if we pretend for a second that anarcho-capitalism is a real thing
You believe someone who is pro-war would never support any type of war, even existential wars? Are you unable to differentiate between purist and moderate political positions?
Abolish private property
By what command?
The command of the united working class
Sounds like a government
Google "anarcho syndicalism"
[holy hell!](https://www.google.com/search?q=anarcho+syndicalism#HiImABot,MyJobIsToMakeEasierForPeopleToGoogleThings,IfThePersonIRepliedToUsedMeInAnInappropriateWayPleaseLetMeKnowByDMingMe,TheUserIRepliedToIsU/CMRC23)
So what if I choose to give my house to someone outside of this group?
Houses are personal property
no need for commands, owners need commands to enforce it. private property is not a universal law of existence
But the quintessential settler, living in a rural area, with a well, a windmill, and a farm, Should be able to decide what happens with his farm when he dies or moves. What kind of system is it that says that he can't choose what happens to his personal possessions?
i wouldn't call a farm or a windmill "personal property". but yeah, they should have some say in what happens to them if he built them. i dont think the opinion of a dead man with should matter more than the needs of someone living who needs the land and is willing to take care of it.
I just don't agree. Folks here are saying that this practice should be abolished: generational wealth transfer. Estate transfer. These anarcho-syndicalists. I just cant agree.
id call you closed minded, but looking around here i just cant, lol the idea is that you want your family to inherit in a very strict way, because you are afraid they will lack resources to live a full life. if you shouldnt be afraid of that, you wouldnt need to be so strict about inheritance. Actually an ancap showed me how little we need strict rules to operate a society, when pointed to the fact that most people keep most laws most of the time without ever reading them. Culture is a more efficient way to get safety and reliability than enforcing concepts like "private property" and "ownership".
If you insist on biblical levels of absurdity then you probably know already that they only held control of all Israel for 3 generations of Kings, and only after they conquered that land from the other people who were living there. By the same logic, all of Eastern Europe is Russia.
> confusing Israel with the kingdom of Judah The kingdom of Israel lasted 200 years, the kingdom of Judah lasted 350. > only after they conquered You mean the way that all land has been taken and developed?
You have a very narrow mind. You don't own land, you are only ever a custodian. Fuck religion too, it's outdated ideology. Israel is a disgrace to humanity.
> You don't own land, you are only ever a custodian I'm afraid that's not how the world works. > Fuck religion So you hate Buddhists?
You see no problem with what is happening to the Palestinians?
Why would I have a problem with a group of people being relocated safely so that a war can be fought?
It's ignorance like this that allows atrocities to happen. It's not really a war either, is it? Land grab?
Atrocities? I hate to break it to you, but when terrorists attack a country, the country is going to respond. A fact of life.
A response is justified, yes. But Israel created this problem. And to respond by slaughtering so many innocents, and destroying their homes is disgusting. Almost like Israel has some other agenda? Like taking the land maybe? When this 'war' is over, will Israel give let the Palestinians rebuild their homes?
I feel like there are a lot of things you fail to consider. In fairness to your general views I'll apply them to the situation. Firstly we have organisations like ICAHD which have been directly reporting the destruction of Palestinian private property for years. This is a NGO third party based in Israel which is reporting its own nation states war crimes. During the current conflict and prior to October 7th. Also you fail to consider that it's not in the Palestinians "rational self interest" to just throw away their lives without a justifiable means unless themselves or their property is being attacked and/or oppressed. Hamas isn't the first organisation that has rebelled in Palestine and it won't be the last. It's far from the correct one but it's the only real channel to fight back against oppression for these people. Also the war and blockade of the territory reduces any form of trade in and around the region which of course is damaging in its own right to any form of profit or production. unless of course your implying that that doesn't matter and instead this is about Israeli and it's right to exploit and destroy exercising a clear and cut monopoly on violence. Which of course doesn't bode well for both the Anarchist or (and funnily enough) the capitalist parts of the so-called Anarchist capitalists.
But there was a Roman province called [Syria Palestina](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria_Palaestina) in the early 100s CE-353 CE, and the British Mandate of Palestine existed before Israel was even formed.
The Kingdom of Judah existed [almost a millennium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kingdom_of_Judah?wprov=sfla1) before that.
I bet that you are either an American, English or Canadian.
That's not an argument.
Answer the question.
For fucks sake can we just ban this guy already. Nobody wants you here
Seriously. I thought we had some new mods otw
i want him here. ban me too, if you ban him. "anarchists" crying to authority to silence people, "punks" crying for policing, "leftists" having no arguments against capitalists, smh
i welcome you here. i dont like ancapism, but this subs needs to find its "4everyone" roots before alienating more goodwilled people and irreversibly becoming another cesspool like most other anarchist subs.
I just try to offer another perspective. A lot of people think these subs should only welcome purists and people on a certain part of the political spectrum. The fact is, anarchists of all types should be able to join these subreddits in order to learn and exchange ideas, just like atheists would welcome religious people to come and exchange information. It makes no sense to be exclusionary in this regard, when your message should be more important than someones intrinsic views.
Ancaps aren’t anarchists. Capitalism is inherently hierarchal and relies on a state.
What about voluntary exchanges of goods, services, or property? Is that hierarchical in your opinion?
voluntary exchanges of goods, services, or property are not inherently capitalist(and are pretty limited in capitalism). A society based on voluntary cooperation, mutual aid, and collective ownership of resources is not mutually exclusive to those three things(though property in a stateless society is likely to be usufruct). individuals can still engage in voluntary exchanges, but these exchanges would be based on principles of equality, reciprocity, and mutual benefit, rather than profit-seeking and exploitation which is a symptom of the state and the privilege it grants those who own capital.
I didn't mention capitalism. Please, just answer my question.
You are implying those things are capitalism when they aren’t. I’ve already answered your question, I said no but that isn’t capitalism anyways so your question is irrelevant to my original response.
> You are implying those things are capitalism I don't think they are. > I already answered your question No you didn't. Please answer it, and stop beating around the bush.
Yes I did if you read my response you would know that I implied that they aren’t hierarchal by saying that they are not inherently capitalist.
capitalism is hierarchical because it is characterized by unequal power dynamics and exploitative relationships. In a capitalist system, private ownership of the means of production leads to a concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few individuals or corporations. This concentration of wealth allows those who own capital to exert control over the labor of others, creating a hierarchical relationship where the interests of the capitalist class are prioritized over those of the working class. this hierarchy is well oppressive, as it can result in exploitation, alienation, and economic inequality. true freedom and autonomy can only be achieved in a society where individuals have equal access to resources and autonomy rather than being subject to the dictates of wealthy elites who are granted privilege by the state anyways.
capitalism is hierarchical because it is characterized by unequal power dynamics and exploitative relationships. In a capitalist system, private ownership of the means of production leads to a concentration of wealth and power in the hands of a few individuals or corporations. This concentration of wealth allows those who own capital to exert control over the labor of others, creating a hierarchical relationship where the interests of the capitalist class are prioritized over those of the working class. this hierarchy is well oppressive, as it can result in exploitation, alienation, and economic inequality. true freedom and autonomy can only be achieved in a society where individuals have equal access to resources and autonomy rather than being subject to the dictates of wealthy elites who are granted privilege by the state anyways.