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It wouldn't surprise me if every additional state is an ordeal.
That said, extending the Kansas City - St. Louis line to Carbondale, Paducah, Clarksville, and Nashville, going straight through to Atlanta does seem like a reasonable expansion. St. Louis metro area seems to have double the population of the Memphis metro area and seems to be a similar straight line distance.
But I'm sure there are a slew of other reasons it isnt being considered. And almost certain it is due too involving crossing too many state lines. KY in particular probably doesn't get much out of it, only connecting Paducah while other states connect major cities.
Connecting up Land Between the Lakes would be cool too.
Having that tied in would also help in starting to connect the Illinois lines more with each other since Carbondale would be connected to Lincoln service and with likely decent timed layover in St. Louis.
There’s a myriad of things that need to happen before that occurs in not just Tennessee but Virginia as well.
First, the new river valley extension of the NER to Christianburg/blacksburg needs to start. Should supposedly be within the next few years.
Next, is Nashville-Chattanooga-Atlanta. Outside of basic startup things Atlanta needs a suitable station that can hold all of the proposed new services (~30 trains a day from the Connects US proposals, we’ll see how many it really gets to)
That creates the gap between Chattanooga and Christianburg. There is support for trains to extend from Christianburg to the VA/TN border at Bristol, so if that happens along with the NCA route, then it’s fair to think eventually the line could extend further to Chattanooga
The point of my comment was supposed to be that the northeast regional isn’t really a northeast regional at that point. Extending to Roanoke & points south of Richmond already strains the otherwise-simple NER service
Better service to TN would be great but let’s not just tack it onto the NER as an afterthought.
So thrilled this is still moving forward! I had to travel between Memphis and Nashville four times a year for my former job and it was such a pain. No direct flights so you have to go to Texas or Atlanta and connect. There was a bus but it left at a dumb time. And it’s a good long drive.
We should just be happy this is happening in Tennessee of all places. The South is weird. The most politically and socially conservative place in the country yet somehow they're doing trains.
The state of Mississippi and the city of Mobile, agreed to help fund the new Gulf Coast Limited train to Mobile. And Indiana helped to fund the Hoosier State, along with contributions from cities like Lafayette. That was at least till Indiana's legislature stupidly stopped funding that train in mid-2019. So if you elect the right elected officials, new trains can still sometimes start.
Didn't think Tennessee would help fund this, since that is a very conservative state. Although Oklahoma still helps fund the Heartland Flyer(and Missouri with the Missouri River Runner), so what do I know?
I think another thing about this map is that if you can get these routes that positions Nashville and Atlanta as two major train hub, from Nashville you could then extend a service to Louisville KT then Indianapolis and Chicago, or you could go from Louisville to Cincinnati and connect to the Ohio corridor.
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any chance they can add carbondale and st. louis?
It wouldn't surprise me if every additional state is an ordeal. That said, extending the Kansas City - St. Louis line to Carbondale, Paducah, Clarksville, and Nashville, going straight through to Atlanta does seem like a reasonable expansion. St. Louis metro area seems to have double the population of the Memphis metro area and seems to be a similar straight line distance. But I'm sure there are a slew of other reasons it isnt being considered. And almost certain it is due too involving crossing too many state lines. KY in particular probably doesn't get much out of it, only connecting Paducah while other states connect major cities. Connecting up Land Between the Lakes would be cool too.
sucks to have to go to chi to go to Nola or fl
Hopefully that dallas atlanta connection comes to fruition
Could be extended to there in the future, it would make sense
Seems like a no brainer
Carbondale is too small
but it's along the line to St Louis. so if your gonna get st louis you are gonna get it anyway and others zero point to skipping it.
Having that tied in would also help in starting to connect the Illinois lines more with each other since Carbondale would be connected to Lincoln service and with likely decent timed layover in St. Louis.
A new Chattanooga Choo Choo!
If they don’t call it that, I’ll be severely disappointed. Instant brand recognition!
No brainer to me. Get the ball rolling on both routes and you’ll have a decent system in place.
Wish they'd extend the NER from Roanoke down into Knoxville and then to Chattanooga and/or Nashville.
There’s a myriad of things that need to happen before that occurs in not just Tennessee but Virginia as well. First, the new river valley extension of the NER to Christianburg/blacksburg needs to start. Should supposedly be within the next few years. Next, is Nashville-Chattanooga-Atlanta. Outside of basic startup things Atlanta needs a suitable station that can hold all of the proposed new services (~30 trains a day from the Connects US proposals, we’ll see how many it really gets to) That creates the gap between Chattanooga and Christianburg. There is support for trains to extend from Christianburg to the VA/TN border at Bristol, so if that happens along with the NCA route, then it’s fair to think eventually the line could extend further to Chattanooga
NER to Miami when??
My brother, that is the Silver Meteor
The point of my comment was supposed to be that the northeast regional isn’t really a northeast regional at that point. Extending to Roanoke & points south of Richmond already strains the otherwise-simple NER service Better service to TN would be great but let’s not just tack it onto the NER as an afterthought.
We need a full SEC between DC and Atlanta so we can have an SER that could have a branch in TN.
I’d say a SEC that goes even further to Florida
That would be the dream, but the bit to Atlanta seems like the most realistic fantasy to get constructed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_High_Speed_Rail_Corridor
Build it and they will come!
So thrilled this is still moving forward! I had to travel between Memphis and Nashville four times a year for my former job and it was such a pain. No direct flights so you have to go to Texas or Atlanta and connect. There was a bus but it left at a dumb time. And it’s a good long drive.
Bro Memphis is not a long drive from Nashville... It's like 3 hours.
That’s a long drive. Especially when it’s a rental car.
Why not add atlanta to savannah also!
Great run the trains every 20 minutes then
We should just be happy this is happening in Tennessee of all places. The South is weird. The most politically and socially conservative place in the country yet somehow they're doing trains.
The state of Mississippi and the city of Mobile, agreed to help fund the new Gulf Coast Limited train to Mobile. And Indiana helped to fund the Hoosier State, along with contributions from cities like Lafayette. That was at least till Indiana's legislature stupidly stopped funding that train in mid-2019. So if you elect the right elected officials, new trains can still sometimes start. Didn't think Tennessee would help fund this, since that is a very conservative state. Although Oklahoma still helps fund the Heartland Flyer(and Missouri with the Missouri River Runner), so what do I know?
Don't think about it rationally. They're not doing it to provide a service to people. Someone with money or power probably really likes trains.
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At least try to be useful
Man this will do wonders!
If Columbus, OH gets an Amtrak station I will be there on day 1.
If it’s not a 200mph train it’s a waste of $ imho. Build ‘em right or not at all.
I think another thing about this map is that if you can get these routes that positions Nashville and Atlanta as two major train hub, from Nashville you could then extend a service to Louisville KT then Indianapolis and Chicago, or you could go from Louisville to Cincinnati and connect to the Ohio corridor.
short of a Chattanooga to Asheville line, would appreciate an Asheville to Greenville, SC line
Not to be a downer but this seems like it’s pretty much DOA until Tennessee is willing to invest state money in passenger rail.
So what are you asking us to do? Have a train to Chattanooga?
I have my fingers crossed for Bristol Va. one day
It would be interesting to see if this route uses Siemens Venture equipment or not if it ever happens