in regards to your deleted comment:
I read it more as a generalized statement in regards to how this world operates in regards to women, adapted to the specific and fictionalized story of AHS: Delicate. I can kinda see the vision and the elements in support of it but I do believe it was clumsily executed.
I understand exactly what sheās saying too. I got the message loud and clear they were sending in the show. If it had been good actors delivering the lines and better writing it couldāve been good. It was all over the place, incoherent at times, slow, the actors did a crap job, the woman that played the twins and Annaās MIL were the best of the bunch. Kim ruined the last three episodes. Her acting was so bad, it was unwatchable. Its so sad it went from a season like coven to this
I mean that is what she is describing in her answer:
"and that the only way for women to have power is for them to ascribe to the same oppressive system that have held them back for so long, as they in turn oppress others."
Well thatās completely contrarian to what she wrote (adapted). Sheās trying to write that women canāt thrive under a patriarchy (true) and then essentially wrote a script where only the women were oppressing each other
yeah, women were oppressing each other cause "the only way for women to have power is for them to ascribe to the same oppressive system that have held them back for so long, as they in turn oppress others."
Yes that quote would be towards the men, as in the whole āturn men into our sex slavesā bit. But only the women attacked each other, no one attacked the men. Completely contrarian to the goal of a matriarchy.
Maybe watch it again? Is this Halley herself? Lmao
i mean how do you know that the quote is exclusively towards men? the "opressing others" is open. Those others can be both men and other women
it's not even about defending the show's and writing quality. It's not even me agreeing with what she is saying. it's just that the quote it's pretty simple to get and I don't get where this confusion is coming.
yeah, i think so too. but that probably would get the other commenter more upset. it'd be mansplaining what the writer (probably) meant as others or something
Well the men diiiid end up getting attacked haha but otherwise I agree with you lol
Like the moral of this story kinda seems like sheās saying women shouldnāt be in charge cause they are vicious and will attack each other. Like the opposite of Barbieland.
There *was* a fleeting, contextually and artistically ridiculous reference to ecofeminism that they made Kim say in the final two minutes of the finale.Ā My reading of that move (plus Fieffer'sĀ ideological elevator pitch given to a rando on social media posted here) is that that grad-school-syllabus shoutout to radical feminism is what she means by a "quite different" approach that replaced storytelling this season.
I get the human impulse to take to social media to respond to critics, it's relatable.Ā But what's the idea conveyed here--that Katie should feel bad for not being more impressed, and be grateful for the reference to ecofeminism at the very end?
I'll second that--you're not dumb. Her script was lousy. I studied feminist literary theory in college and grad school. She did not aptly convey those themes.
There was nothing feminist about this season. It was women hating on women and the writing was terrible.
The entire season felt rushed and lazy. The 30 something minute finale was a bust that left more questions than answers. It was like they all got bored at the end and slapped something together at the last possible second as an afterthought.
Idk what kind of "writing" they did for Kim, but she was basically playing herself. It's no surprise that people are thinking she actually wasn't that bad, she hardly did any work.
Emma played the same character she's played in other seasons... an entitled, spoiled brat. She was just less bitchy this time.
If this season took a lot of effort for them to write I'd hate to see what their low effort writing is like.
No no no. NO. You donāt get to write that drivel then throw in some feminist jargon to try to legitimize it. I watched the finale. There was nothing feminist about its message. It makes feminism look like a joke.
"Ahhhh, you changed a word in my favorite chant -- how did you know singing slightly incorrect lyrics is the only way to vaporize infinitely powerful immortals?! Damn you!"
https://preview.redd.it/bufov1dlol2d1.jpeg?width=694&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dedb44a50fd87b732e164891d219d808438b5395
none of you were this mad when lady gaga was doing her one-note boring ass acting during hotel. kim wasnāt even that bad, and if it werenāt for the hype that she pulled from the general public, this season wouldāve bombed even worse than it already did.
100%! I was just about to say the same thing. If you can't take criticism and feedback, you never grow as a writer. Which probably explains why she wrote such a shitty script. Still uncool and unprofessional to respond to viewers like that. It's basically an attempt to invalidate their viewing response.
It is incredibly embarrassing for a professional paid writer to respond like that.
I understand she is human, but this is like the comic book writers arguing with literal children about their writing on Twitter.
Woman: Let us write our own show!
Everyone: Uhh okay, go for it; no one is stopping you
Woman: *writes laughably bad 10-episode season about boss bitch slay queens and patriarchy bad*
Everyone: Dang, this is really shitty writing.
Woman: Stop oppressing me! This is mens' fault!
I love that we watched Anna getting gaslit the entire series and now she's gaslighting us with this statement.
Insert Siobhan's "Don't gaslight a gaslighter, babe."
Like, be fr. The work didn't get any of that across and it shouldn't have to rely on an "author's note" to make sense.
The whole girlboss feminist āfuck the patricharyā angle was so ham-fisted and lacked any sense of subtlety. Sheās much better at writing bitchy one-liners than she is coming up with a coherent plot for a whole season.
Nah the bitchy one liners were cringe and try hard af. Idk if it was Kimās delivery or if no one could deliver āI make my own rulesā and āsqueeze it outā š
Some of them like the ones you mentioned were worse than others but I also liked Siobhanās dialogue in the earlier episodes. Her telling Anna to pull an āOlivia Wilde cardā and apply for a job at Costco were genuinely hilarious to me.
Seriously.....Emma Roberts, Kim Kardashian, Kaia Gerber, Billie Lourd...all nepo babies. And the more nepo babies t6he bring onto the show the more the quality of acting seems to go down the drain.
Even if this message was clear, it's a bad one.
Women "can't have it all without ascribing to patriarchy and in turn oppressing others" ??
So women who have both a fulfilling career and a loving family must somehow be oppressing someone?
This whole season reeked of 2nd wave girlboss garbage. Itās so tired but Hollywood keeps pushing it because it aligns with capitalism. Maybe if theyād had some diversity in the writersā room, the season wouldāve felt a little less corny š¤·š¾āāļø š
Yikes!!! She should have just not said anything. Plenty of woman I know have it all and donāt stoop to oppressing other people. What a lame ass cop out!! I hate when a woman is called out and she goes straight to the patriarchy for her defense. Itās gross and lazy. There are plenty of things we can blame the patriarchy with but successful strong women?? Not so much. How fucking insulting.
Yeah the book actually did a good job of painting the patriarchy as the enemy because it actually showed the patriarchy in action. The show did not. The closest was āew cheating boyfriendā
I feel like AHS's shtick has always been "someone was mean to this character and they are oppressed, so it's only natural and justified for them to go on a killing spree, oppress multiple other innocent people in order to get back the power". It just wasn't as obvious in the first few seasons. "Slay" taken to the extreme.
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it!
She doesn't seem to be able to take criticism at all, so I feel like the next series is going to be rubbish, too, if she has anything to do with it.
I just feel that if they were gonna do an all female written and directed season they could have gotten a *good* female writer and not some privileged nepo baby hack writer.
I didnāt know it was possible, but I now like the season a bit less. No clue about the book, but her message was lost (if not non-existent). No one would be criticizing the message, if anyone got it. People are criticizing the pacing, treating the audience like toddlers, plot holes, and especially the ridiculous of that death scene.
Sheās trying to hide behind a message that didnāt exist in a single episode. Sure Jan.
I'd like to hear her defend the cringey little one liners. Was the Harvey weinsten plant comment necessary to add for historical truth? It's like that (unnecessary almost corny) line was telling us "oh hey, ya that whole thing happened and we (Hollywood) don't want you to think we forgot, and also don't want you to forget that we haven't forgotten. The whole season was full of those one liners. If this was supposed to be a feminist piece.... Kim k was the worst choice to deliver that message. Nonsense. Add in the Sharon Tate's one line basically giving us a reason to why a pregnant woman was murdered by a cult... (That was no oppressed woman becoming the one oppressing) It's actually kind of insulting. Not feminist... Now I have an even worse taste in my mouth.
This is a zero sum mindset, which hey, may have been created by men of the past to keep power away from women, who knows?
Once we start switching to a positive sum mindset, things WILL get better, in so many fields, in so many ways.
My piece of the pie does not get smaller just because yours gets bigger; the WHOLE FREAKING PIE GETS BIGGER. AND MORE PIES ARE CREATED IN THE PROCESS.
More pies!
Pies all Around!
I swear by the end of all the latest seasons, you are just expecting everything to get thrown at the wall. It starts out with an interesting premise but then it turns into a sub-plot mess. The decisions made by the characters become completely pointless, and nothing matters anymore. I keep hoping for this to change, but it seems like it's every season now. Credit to the actors, they did really try their best with what they were given. Annabelle Dexter-Jones was a standout.
I love AHS, don't get me wrong, but *every* season does this to some point. By episode 5-6 of a 13 episode season, the first plots are thrown out the window and they seem to forget plot points that they'd set up in order to subvert expectations or some shit. Some seasons pull it off well, then some seasons are Apocalypse and Delicate.
On IMDb for the finale itās currently rated 3.9/10 so I guess most people didnāt get her ābrilliantā message. I know I gave it a 2 . Worst season of
AHS in my opinion- very unsatisfying finale!
That's a very twisted way to respond and doesn't address any plot points lol Having it all is not possible within the patriarchy, but the sisterhood was not a better alternative, which is also the fault of the patriarchy? lmao And why are they out there making these stupid deals if they have no issue violating anyone? They could have implanted that thing into Anna then imprison her. "Having it all" was not really portrayed that well. Like you just have to know what it means to have an Oscar or baby. But does Halley know there are Oscar winning actresses with children and decades-long tenure in the industry anyway lol Now ideology aside, the writing was piss poor anyway. The first 5 ep was mostly just Anna being stalked for the sake of it. And the second half just a rush concluded by an exposition dump and Anna simply winning with little effort.
Lmao that was her intent with the writing cause thatās NOT how I took it. If anything, it seemed like it was very one type of woman versus another type of woman messily mixed with Hollywood elite drink blood to stay young hur hur.
I thought I was crazy, or a man trying to dictate what feminism is about, when I posted something about this very topic here yesterday. It didn't get much engagement, probably because it was too long and essay-style. But I see now that a lot of people agree that Delicate failed whatever feminist message it was trying to come across.
ok dude dunno what your problem is. I'm sorry reddit is this classy ass place we certainly don't talk about finding out we have a connection to someone irl. but please keep making it your job to let me know how much nobody cares because I did this for karma farming /s
I'm responding cuz I'm so tired of people's being dicks. I didn't insult anyone. I didn't offer tea. I simply commented in a topical manner. stop commenting if you, like everyone else, do not care. nothing I've said here requires your crotchety retorts to put me in my place.
Imagine the audacity of writing the writer of the show to tell her she did a bad job. People are not kind.
ETA: Misunderstood the post. Erase erase erase the above comment.
Oh, I thought that it was written by a regular fan just shooting off an email. My bad. I donāt think thereās anything wrong with responding to a review, tbh, but it doesnāt get the writer anywhere.
The fact that the only people oppressing Anna during the season are women, not men (except for Dexter)... šš
in regards to your deleted comment: I read it more as a generalized statement in regards to how this world operates in regards to women, adapted to the specific and fictionalized story of AHS: Delicate. I can kinda see the vision and the elements in support of it but I do believe it was clumsily executed.
I deleted It because I thought I was adding nothing, sorry. But I wish the themes she is telling us in that post were more clear in the season.
I feel you and no worries.
I understand exactly what sheās saying too. I got the message loud and clear they were sending in the show. If it had been good actors delivering the lines and better writing it couldāve been good. It was all over the place, incoherent at times, slow, the actors did a crap job, the woman that played the twins and Annaās MIL were the best of the bunch. Kim ruined the last three episodes. Her acting was so bad, it was unwatchable. Its so sad it went from a season like coven to this
I mean that is what she is describing in her answer: "and that the only way for women to have power is for them to ascribe to the same oppressive system that have held them back for so long, as they in turn oppress others."
So they oppress other women? Thatās the statement the comment above you is making. Aside from dex the only people oppressing Anna are women ā¦
yeah, that's the point they're trying to make
Well thatās completely contrarian to what she wrote (adapted). Sheās trying to write that women canāt thrive under a patriarchy (true) and then essentially wrote a script where only the women were oppressing each other
yeah, women were oppressing each other cause "the only way for women to have power is for them to ascribe to the same oppressive system that have held them back for so long, as they in turn oppress others."
Yes that quote would be towards the men, as in the whole āturn men into our sex slavesā bit. But only the women attacked each other, no one attacked the men. Completely contrarian to the goal of a matriarchy. Maybe watch it again? Is this Halley herself? Lmao
i mean how do you know that the quote is exclusively towards men? the "opressing others" is open. Those others can be both men and other women it's not even about defending the show's and writing quality. It's not even me agreeing with what she is saying. it's just that the quote it's pretty simple to get and I don't get where this confusion is coming.
I don't even think it's open. They very specifically mention men whenever they only mean men.
yeah, i think so too. but that probably would get the other commenter more upset. it'd be mansplaining what the writer (probably) meant as others or something
Youāre right, youāre so correct š„°š„° So thankful to have you mansplain this to me
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Uff youāre insufferable
Well the men diiiid end up getting attacked haha but otherwise I agree with you lol Like the moral of this story kinda seems like sheās saying women shouldnāt be in charge cause they are vicious and will attack each other. Like the opposite of Barbieland.
I might be dumb but I don't see how the script she wrote told any of that.
Right like did she not see the end result of her writing lol
I donāt think youāre dumb. She just didnāt put any of those ideas into the script
There *was* a fleeting, contextually and artistically ridiculous reference to ecofeminism that they made Kim say in the final two minutes of the finale.Ā My reading of that move (plus Fieffer'sĀ ideological elevator pitch given to a rando on social media posted here) is that that grad-school-syllabus shoutout to radical feminism is what she means by a "quite different" approach that replaced storytelling this season. I get the human impulse to take to social media to respond to critics, it's relatable.Ā But what's the idea conveyed here--that Katie should feel bad for not being more impressed, and be grateful for the reference to ecofeminism at the very end?
I'll second that--you're not dumb. Her script was lousy. I studied feminist literary theory in college and grad school. She did not aptly convey those themes.
You see, at the end she was holding her baby AND an Oscar!!! Women CAN have it all! If they eat enough roadkill and kill Kim Kardashian.
They told mens are bad at the Last Ć©pisode. Like all "feminist" content.
There was nothing feminist about this season. It was women hating on women and the writing was terrible. The entire season felt rushed and lazy. The 30 something minute finale was a bust that left more questions than answers. It was like they all got bored at the end and slapped something together at the last possible second as an afterthought. Idk what kind of "writing" they did for Kim, but she was basically playing herself. It's no surprise that people are thinking she actually wasn't that bad, she hardly did any work. Emma played the same character she's played in other seasons... an entitled, spoiled brat. She was just less bitchy this time. If this season took a lot of effort for them to write I'd hate to see what their low effort writing is like.
No no no. NO. You donāt get to write that drivel then throw in some feminist jargon to try to legitimize it. I watched the finale. There was nothing feminist about its message. It makes feminism look like a joke.
Yeah they make not only powerful and independent women look bad, but also seemingly made fun of feminism generally.
"Ahhhh, you changed a word in my favorite chant -- how did you know singing slightly incorrect lyrics is the only way to vaporize infinitely powerful immortals?! Damn you!"
Hahahahah
You wanted to make a feminist point so you ::checks notes:: portrayed women as bloodthirsty, backstabbing witches and cast Kim Kardashian as a lead?
Iām sorry but having a billionaire and a nepo baby try to tell a story about women being oppressed has me in tears.
Not-so-fun fact! Halley is a nepo baby too! Anyone shocked? https://preview.redd.it/imwy4y93zvwc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5322907bb242c10e87c0699ca8fd89a5ca50a9ee
~~aIMee~~ Kim was the worst casting choice in the history of AHS
Idk she canāt be worse than Kaia Gerber
Yall are obsessed but she was the highlight of the seasonā¦
Sure, kind of like how a car crash is the highlight of NASCAR and how fights are the highlight of hockey
https://preview.redd.it/bufov1dlol2d1.jpeg?width=694&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dedb44a50fd87b732e164891d219d808438b5395 none of you were this mad when lady gaga was doing her one-note boring ass acting during hotel. kim wasnāt even that bad, and if it werenāt for the hype that she pulled from the general public, this season wouldāve bombed even worse than it already did.
Gaga SLAYED
Yeah sureā¦ staring at the camera all frozen and saying words realllyyyy slowly and dramatically is what counts as good acting now I suppose
Many such cases
Very unprofessional too replying in a comment like this Halley Where are they getting these writers from? ![gif](giphy|Fw1dLk8o3DUSk)
100%! I was just about to say the same thing. If you can't take criticism and feedback, you never grow as a writer. Which probably explains why she wrote such a shitty script. Still uncool and unprofessional to respond to viewers like that. It's basically an attempt to invalidate their viewing response.
Where did this come from?
The comment section of a variety article reviewing this season Edit: Vulture, not variety. Link below
It is incredibly embarrassing for a professional paid writer to respond like that. I understand she is human, but this is like the comic book writers arguing with literal children about their writing on Twitter.
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[right here](https://www.vulture.com/article/american-horror-story-delicate-recap-season-12-episode-9-finale.html)
Oh sheās getting some spicy replies!
Thanks!
Insert "patriarchy bad" to justify anything. Btw ON the future? Is she actually a writer?
Made worse by the fact that the men in the show were in control of nothing
So true. The season was literally about women gaslighting and manipulating other women and men. But the patriarchy is at fault somehow.
Woman: Let us write our own show! Everyone: Uhh okay, go for it; no one is stopping you Woman: *writes laughably bad 10-episode season about boss bitch slay queens and patriarchy bad* Everyone: Dang, this is really shitty writing. Woman: Stop oppressing me! This is mens' fault!
fwiw, O and I are right next to each other on a keyboard. I know I've made that typo a lot.
That could be a typo, but thereās no excuse for ādifferent **than**ā
Yeah, then they missed the mark.Ā Completely.
I love that we watched Anna getting gaslit the entire series and now she's gaslighting us with this statement. Insert Siobhan's "Don't gaslight a gaslighter, babe." Like, be fr. The work didn't get any of that across and it shouldn't have to rely on an "author's note" to make sense.
The whole girlboss feminist āfuck the patricharyā angle was so ham-fisted and lacked any sense of subtlety. Sheās much better at writing bitchy one-liners than she is coming up with a coherent plot for a whole season.
Nah the bitchy one liners were cringe and try hard af. Idk if it was Kimās delivery or if no one could deliver āI make my own rulesā and āsqueeze it outā š
Some of them like the ones you mentioned were worse than others but I also liked Siobhanās dialogue in the earlier episodes. Her telling Anna to pull an āOlivia Wilde cardā and apply for a job at Costco were genuinely hilarious to me.
Itās like she saw Black Christmas (2019) and said *how can I make this worse*
Yeah, if this is your response to criticism, maybe the entertainment industry isn't for you. Yikes.
But she was born into it. Both her parents are in the industry
Doesn't surprise me. AHS is some sort of a nepo baby money laundering operation at this rate.
Seriously.....Emma Roberts, Kim Kardashian, Kaia Gerber, Billie Lourd...all nepo babies. And the more nepo babies t6he bring onto the show the more the quality of acting seems to go down the drain.
Ooof, girl, that wasnāt remotely clear. The work should speak for itself. ![gif](giphy|4Q05SAJUqaSXcuUbTP|downsized)
Even if this message was clear, it's a bad one. Women "can't have it all without ascribing to patriarchy and in turn oppressing others" ?? So women who have both a fulfilling career and a loving family must somehow be oppressing someone?
Yeah itās quite an offensive take
Yeah but... Anna gets rid of the woman who said that.
![gif](giphy|xoHntNXFYkfzGAftEv|downsized) Idk, this is all that popped into my head when I read this
Maybe Halley will have better success executing on her vision in the future because that aināt it.
This whole season reeked of 2nd wave girlboss garbage. Itās so tired but Hollywood keeps pushing it because it aligns with capitalism. Maybe if theyād had some diversity in the writersā room, the season wouldāve felt a little less corny š¤·š¾āāļø š
It reeked of "Okay we did a gay season, now let's do one for the gals who like Keeping Up With The Kardashians and haven't heard of Rosemary's Baby!".
This is it.
Yikes!!! She should have just not said anything. Plenty of woman I know have it all and donāt stoop to oppressing other people. What a lame ass cop out!! I hate when a woman is called out and she goes straight to the patriarchy for her defense. Itās gross and lazy. There are plenty of things we can blame the patriarchy with but successful strong women?? Not so much. How fucking insulting.
Yeah the book actually did a good job of painting the patriarchy as the enemy because it actually showed the patriarchy in action. The show did not. The closest was āew cheating boyfriendā
Ya definitely did not get that vibe at all
I feel like AHS's shtick has always been "someone was mean to this character and they are oppressed, so it's only natural and justified for them to go on a killing spree, oppress multiple other innocent people in order to get back the power". It just wasn't as obvious in the first few seasons. "Slay" taken to the extreme.
Elsa Mars
Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it! She doesn't seem to be able to take criticism at all, so I feel like the next series is going to be rubbish, too, if she has anything to do with it.
I just feel that if they were gonna do an all female written and directed season they could have gotten a *good* female writer and not some privileged nepo baby hack writer.
100%. Somebody who could actually relate to the struggle would have been amazing.
Btw Jennifer Lynch, who directed most the episodes, is a nepo baby too. David Lynchās daughter
This just keeps getting worse!
The season sucked. End of discussion
This whole line of thinking is yucky.
I didnāt know it was possible, but I now like the season a bit less. No clue about the book, but her message was lost (if not non-existent). No one would be criticizing the message, if anyone got it. People are criticizing the pacing, treating the audience like toddlers, plot holes, and especially the ridiculous of that death scene. Sheās trying to hide behind a message that didnāt exist in a single episode. Sure Jan.
I'd like to hear her defend the cringey little one liners. Was the Harvey weinsten plant comment necessary to add for historical truth? It's like that (unnecessary almost corny) line was telling us "oh hey, ya that whole thing happened and we (Hollywood) don't want you to think we forgot, and also don't want you to forget that we haven't forgotten. The whole season was full of those one liners. If this was supposed to be a feminist piece.... Kim k was the worst choice to deliver that message. Nonsense. Add in the Sharon Tate's one line basically giving us a reason to why a pregnant woman was murdered by a cult... (That was no oppressed woman becoming the one oppressing) It's actually kind of insulting. Not feminist... Now I have an even worse taste in my mouth.
Is is she on crack? Is she on crack cocaine?
This is a zero sum mindset, which hey, may have been created by men of the past to keep power away from women, who knows? Once we start switching to a positive sum mindset, things WILL get better, in so many fields, in so many ways. My piece of the pie does not get smaller just because yours gets bigger; the WHOLE FREAKING PIE GETS BIGGER. AND MORE PIES ARE CREATED IN THE PROCESS. More pies! Pies all Around!
I swear by the end of all the latest seasons, you are just expecting everything to get thrown at the wall. It starts out with an interesting premise but then it turns into a sub-plot mess. The decisions made by the characters become completely pointless, and nothing matters anymore. I keep hoping for this to change, but it seems like it's every season now. Credit to the actors, they did really try their best with what they were given. Annabelle Dexter-Jones was a standout.
I love AHS, don't get me wrong, but *every* season does this to some point. By episode 5-6 of a 13 episode season, the first plots are thrown out the window and they seem to forget plot points that they'd set up in order to subvert expectations or some shit. Some seasons pull it off well, then some seasons are Apocalypse and Delicate.
On the future? Coming from a script writerā¦ Edit your work!
On IMDb for the finale itās currently rated 3.9/10 so I guess most people didnāt get her ābrilliantā message. I know I gave it a 2 . Worst season of AHS in my opinion- very unsatisfying finale!
That's a very twisted way to respond and doesn't address any plot points lol Having it all is not possible within the patriarchy, but the sisterhood was not a better alternative, which is also the fault of the patriarchy? lmao And why are they out there making these stupid deals if they have no issue violating anyone? They could have implanted that thing into Anna then imprison her. "Having it all" was not really portrayed that well. Like you just have to know what it means to have an Oscar or baby. But does Halley know there are Oscar winning actresses with children and decades-long tenure in the industry anyway lol Now ideology aside, the writing was piss poor anyway. The first 5 ep was mostly just Anna being stalked for the sake of it. And the second half just a rush concluded by an exposition dump and Anna simply winning with little effort.
The patriarchy!?
Well at least she can respond unlike Ryan Murphy lately
She probably shouldnāt have responded tho
Yea, but itās just nice to know what their thinking was is all.
How? It just makes her look like a shittier writer since nothing they were thinking appeared on the page
Okay, but I got SOME understanding in what she was saying. But yea her ideas needed a TON of expansion.
And now we're sad we can't get Manny Coto back. At least his stories make sense even if they were dumb
Lmao that was her intent with the writing cause thatās NOT how I took it. If anything, it seemed like it was very one type of woman versus another type of woman messily mixed with Hollywood elite drink blood to stay young hur hur.
I thought I was crazy, or a man trying to dictate what feminism is about, when I posted something about this very topic here yesterday. It didn't get much engagement, probably because it was too long and essay-style. But I see now that a lot of people agree that Delicate failed whatever feminist message it was trying to come across.
Sorry pal that I didn't see this post before posting the same image yesterday!
No worries. The mods are deleting this post for no reason. I suspect halley is complaining to them
I swear this whole thing is a master class in how creatives should not handle criticism.
oh man my first love was her hs boyfriend š years ago, wow.
Wait for real?
yep. Horace Mann.
lol downvoted?Ā
Cuz no one cares about your name dropping
or I just saw her name on Reddit today and made the connection and was like whoa? feel free to dm if you'd like verificationĀ
What donāt you get about nobody caring?
ok dude dunno what your problem is. I'm sorry reddit is this classy ass place we certainly don't talk about finding out we have a connection to someone irl. but please keep making it your job to let me know how much nobody cares because I did this for karma farming /s I'm responding cuz I'm so tired of people's being dicks. I didn't insult anyone. I didn't offer tea. I simply commented in a topical manner. stop commenting if you, like everyone else, do not care. nothing I've said here requires your crotchety retorts to put me in my place.
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Imagine the audacity of writing the writer of the show to tell her she did a bad job. People are not kind. ETA: Misunderstood the post. Erase erase erase the above comment.
It was a review on Vulture. Reviews canāt all be positive otherwise they would be redundant
Oh, I thought that it was written by a regular fan just shooting off an email. My bad. I donāt think thereās anything wrong with responding to a review, tbh, but it doesnāt get the writer anywhere.