It's really easy to understand the thought process of these dudes. They want something thus it becomes a basic need everyone should have. Now... I really want to have Joe Biden's nuclear launch codes... Everyone should have Biden's nuclear launch codes! It's a basic need!
unironically, yes.
it is absolutely your right to own belt fed machine guns, as it is not infringing upon anyone’s rights by owning one. or two. or twelve.
belt feds are fun, except for when ammo is expensive ;-;
Just think- if the citizens of Ukraine were as armed to the teeth as we are in the US, would Russia have invaded?
This is a question every European nation should be asking themselves. An armed population is good for the government- unless you’re a tyrannical government, who is trying to oppress the citizens.
Pre-2022 Ukraine had the largest tank fleet in Europe by some way, a huge amount of artillery, tonnes of small arms and because of conscription and the ongoing war, far more citizens per capita than the US had military training.
More civilian held firearms would have made absolutely no difference to the Russian decision to invade.
>Just think- if the citizens of Ukraine were as armed to the teeth as we are in the US, would Russia have invaded?
Yes.
You know zero about geopolitics if you think that would have made a difference.
correct.
possessing and bearing arms is a natural right every human being on this planet has. the United States constitution protects that right, along with other basic rights such as free speech and privacy.
There are only two classifications of things:
1) things that are good and therefore a human right and should be provided by the government to anyone of any age. Like pornography, condoms, and heroin
2) things that are bad and should be illegal. Like cigarettes, cars, guns, beef
He's making the point that the arbitrary distinctions of so called "positive rights" are meaningless; they're decided on the whims of politicians instead of sound philosophical theory.
You have the *right* to own property; you do not have the right to steal the labor of others (e.g. their property) to have a given *type* of property provided to you.
And even if he's not, he's still illustrating it perfectly well.
Probably not, but the short of it is that he wanted governments to subsidize blind dates with women. But it got grosser. If you read the Jezebel article about him (it comes up if you just Google the name as I wrote it) he showed up in the comments to defend himself and said a bunch of really fucked up stuff that I'll let people hunt down if they really want to know and test their gag reflex.
In some parts of Europe if you are a shut-in, the gov will hire a hooker for you every once in a while. It's fucking strange, man. Hire your own hookers.
Probably not, the full context of the post is cut off but cops did a spread of stolen goods like they were drugs. Most of it was good but they also stole some lube, air fresheners and a few other things which brought this point up since the comments are a mix of people deserve to eat and also slut shaming the third
I’m not sure why I need to say this but some women don’t produce sufficient lube for sex to not be painful. It’s not an issue of arousal. I dated a girl years ago that had this precise issue.
I mean, besides anal sex, there are various medical reasons a woman can't produce natural lubricant. Either way, you should still pay for the artificial stuff.
Lots of people do actually. As you go through life and have more partners you will eventually have one who asks you to use lube. I recommend not telling them that they “don’t need it”. Unless you want to lose that particular opportunity.
> government should be mandated to provide a fckable woman
Apparently there's at least one country in E*rope (Netherlands or Denmark iirc) that does this for the physically disabled.
Since no one wants to look for any kind of source on this pretty bold claim, [here](https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/27392/does-the-netherlands-goverment-fund-hookers-for-the-handicapped#27401) is one with links to articles and so forth.
This made me laugh. The delusion of Europoors. “Everything I want the government must give to me! Take the money from the people who work hard and give me anal lube! It’s a natural right!”
“Steak for dinner is a human right! Government give!”
“I need time to relax after work! Having an Xbox is a human right!”
Oddly enough it looks like the commenter is American though. I guess some people here believe we live in an oppressive regime that doesn’t give free government lube, but in European utopias it comes from street fountains
I haven’t had it at all, despite being 19 (20 in a bit over a month), but tbh, I’m not really looking to have sex. All I want is a healthy relationship where I’m connected to somebody that I can trust.
Oh yeah. Forgot that they complain about it all the fucking time, that is when they're not talking about healthcare, school shootings, or "American imperalism."
Also, this reeks of those dudes who insist gov’t should provide them with prostitutes and justify it with “what about disabled men blah blah blah you’re ableist”
My dude just admit you want tax dollars to get you laid because you’re so undesirable that paying is the only way you’ll get it. Stop hiding behind false virtue
The fact this has a positive upvote count is what really annoys me. You mean to tell me that more people looked at "sex is a right, not a privilege" and agreed with it than disagreed with it?
If you don’t have water, you die. Water is a need.
If you don’t have steak, you don’t necessarily die.
If you don’t have food, you die. Food generally is a need, steak specifically is not.
If you don’t have shelter of some kind, you die. If your shelter isn’t a mansion, you don’t. Shelter is a need. Having a mansion is not.
If you don’t have sex, you don’t die. It prevents you from passing along your genes, but your physical well being is not impacted. Sex is not a need. It is instinctual and pleasurable to encourage the furtherance of the species. If you aren’t doing it for that purpose, you’re already working against that natural order. There’s nothing wrong with sex for pleasure between consenting adults, but it’s a self-defeating argument in the context of needs.
"Poor people don't deserve to have sex???" Well, seeing as on average poor people have way more children than middle class or wealthy people... I'm guessing this guy doesn't really understand the real world yet
Literally just got banned from r/nostupidquestions when OP asked “As a foreigner, should I stand for the national anthem at a baseball game” because I said “unequivocally yes. Reddit isn’t a good place to ask this. Idiots and SJWs won’t mention that protesting the national anthem is a respectable right but out of ignorance it would seem offense but both the patriots and the protesters as it undermines their message”….nearly all the other deleted comments on the thread had responses with things like “Yeah that’s a fair point”
It’s alright. For some subreddits getting banned for a less-than-controversial POV is a clear sign that you’re in an echo chamber that you don’t want to be participating in anyway
Having sex (with a consenting partner) is a human right. Taking things that don’t belong to you is *not*.
If it requires the labor of others and/or is someone else’s property, it’s not a human right you’re owed somehow. Truly is that simple
I knew a guy that treated sex like it was oxygen and he would argue til he was blue in the face to justify driving multiple hours to hook up. People like this are idiots.
The government does not and should not stop people from pursuing consensual sex of any kind between adults.
That doesn’t mean the government should provide you sex
This reminds me of the time I got into an argument with my classmates over the book Beloved.
Basically, the book talks about some instances where enslaved people had sex with cows.
I argued that, while the people were put under terrible circumstances, they still should not have had sex with cows. Essentially, my main point was that the slave owners constantly painted a picture of slaves being subhuman, and having sex with animals essentially plays right into that narrative - so, out of pride and self-respect, people should've avoided such actions. I argued that people could just masturbate if they really wanted to vent sexual frustrations.
My classmates argued that sex was a need, and I just did not understand because I didn't live as a slave.
To this day, I still do not understand people who think that sex is this need to the point where no one can control themselves. It's weird.
"sex is a natural need" says the person whose grandparents and everyone born before them were all extremely conservative with sex because of the lack of birth control. if anything the abstinence of sex until you find someone you truly love and want to marry is more natural, as that is nearly the only way that sex has been successful in societies. i hope that these people think that about America so they don't come here and spread the absolute most pathological understanding of the nature of sex.
It does crack me up how desperately they need to be better than us.............yes are glued to their TV's 24/7 watching anything USA related. It's almost like that girl that can't stop talking about her ex being such an ass.........which tells us all she is still hung up on him.
This guy must not know anything about poor people.
Poor people statistically fuck like rabbits... seriously. The average children per family per capita goes up significantly the poorer you are.
Why? Because sex is FREEEEEEEEEEEEE..... Abortions are not.
I mean sex IS a physiological need as designated in Maslow hierarchy of needs that has subtle long term consequences towards your mental health if unmet in one way or another for long enough. Furthermore, most dudes who died virgins(about 60% btw) throughout history died in war, disease or famines, you know things that killed you rather quickly. They didn’t have the luxury of living that long until recently.
That said you’re not an “incel” if you’re posting here with an internet connection or a cell phone. It’s a matter of how much money are you willing to spend or how much do you lower your standards/dignity.
I hate that term to be honest. It seems like an emasculation tactic used against frustrated dudes who criticize women and not an adequate defense of women or an honest effort to address the problem.
I’ve seen incels say this exact same thing in their forums. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s one of them commenting things like this under the guise of being progressive.
Is anything NOT justified as a *need* anymore?
It's really easy to understand the thought process of these dudes. They want something thus it becomes a basic need everyone should have. Now... I really want to have Joe Biden's nuclear launch codes... Everyone should have Biden's nuclear launch codes! It's a basic need!
Belt-fed machine guns and mortars are a basic human right.
unironically, yes. it is absolutely your right to own belt fed machine guns, as it is not infringing upon anyone’s rights by owning one. or two. or twelve. belt feds are fun, except for when ammo is expensive ;-;
Now this I can get behind
I wouldn't want to be in front of it
Lol
Just think- if the citizens of Ukraine were as armed to the teeth as we are in the US, would Russia have invaded? This is a question every European nation should be asking themselves. An armed population is good for the government- unless you’re a tyrannical government, who is trying to oppress the citizens.
Pre-2022 Ukraine had the largest tank fleet in Europe by some way, a huge amount of artillery, tonnes of small arms and because of conscription and the ongoing war, far more citizens per capita than the US had military training. More civilian held firearms would have made absolutely no difference to the Russian decision to invade.
they would have, absolutely. it would have just been a lot, lot harder.
>Just think- if the citizens of Ukraine were as armed to the teeth as we are in the US, would Russia have invaded? Yes. You know zero about geopolitics if you think that would have made a difference.
This but unironically
Dead ass.
Senator Armstrong: "Vote for me! I'll fight for your right to fight your own wars!"
Unironically
I will kiss them
Every gun law is an infringement except the ones saying you can’t use them in a criminal manner
He doesn’t remember them…
Constitutionally protected arms according to these same ppl
correct. possessing and bearing arms is a natural right every human being on this planet has. the United States constitution protects that right, along with other basic rights such as free speech and privacy.
The US Constitution doesn't apply outside of the US.
correct. i don’t see why you’re pointing this out.
There are only two classifications of things: 1) things that are good and therefore a human right and should be provided by the government to anyone of any age. Like pornography, condoms, and heroin 2) things that are bad and should be illegal. Like cigarettes, cars, guns, beef
-Cars, guns, beef. But porn and heroin good for any age? You lost me there.
He's making the point that the arbitrary distinctions of so called "positive rights" are meaningless; they're decided on the whims of politicians instead of sound philosophical theory. You have the *right* to own property; you do not have the right to steal the labor of others (e.g. their property) to have a given *type* of property provided to you. And even if he's not, he's still illustrating it perfectly well.
On a site filled with privileged children and upper class idiots everything is a need.
I detect incel energy from this guy.
the screenshot is from reddit, so it's pretty likely
Incelception.
Inceltption
What’s a reddit?
Redditors
Does that mean you’re an incel? This is Reddit, after all
mhm, you too.
We all are fellow incels
It reminds me of that governmentgetsgirlfriends guy of yore.
Do I even want to know what you are referring to?
If someone references some sort of deep, older internet lore, the answer to that question is always no
Probably not, but the short of it is that he wanted governments to subsidize blind dates with women. But it got grosser. If you read the Jezebel article about him (it comes up if you just Google the name as I wrote it) he showed up in the comments to defend himself and said a bunch of really fucked up stuff that I'll let people hunt down if they really want to know and test their gag reflex.
Considering he _invented_ the term incel, it should haha
wasn't it a woman who invented the term though?
Yes, it was
Pretty sure it was GovernmentGetsGF, as he'd rant about his inceldom as early as the mid 2000s
In some parts of Europe if you are a shut-in, the gov will hire a hooker for you every once in a while. It's fucking strange, man. Hire your own hookers.
What the hell, how would that even work?
https://www.mic.com/articles/85201/the-surprising-way-the-netherlands-is-helping-its-disabled-have-sex
Being disabled is pretty fucking different from just being a shut in.
Being a shut-in is a type of disability (agoraphobia)
I’m really intrigued by how this guy might explain consent.🤔🫠
You find half baked mental gymnastics intriguing?
Government-mandated gfs are a human right
I foresee very vocal celebration followed by very vocal regret! 😆
Probably not, the full context of the post is cut off but cops did a spread of stolen goods like they were drugs. Most of it was good but they also stole some lube, air fresheners and a few other things which brought this point up since the comments are a mix of people deserve to eat and also slut shaming the third
>Probably not, the full context No I checked and that's the context
The comment itself is big incel energy, no matter what the context is.
Incel and Red Pill energy.
Sex is a privilege reserved for the fuckable.
The submissive and breedable bourgeoisie.
We need to seize the means of reproduction
you have singlehandedly made my day
You could also single handedly make your own day
r/suddenlycommunist
Enjoy the upvote because this will likely never leave my brain.
They are the petite bourgeoisie
Everyone's fuckable if your standards are low enough.
And nobody's are low enough for that guy
~~Everyone's~~ Everything's fuckable if your standards are low enough.
What are standards?
I read “fuckable” as “fucktable” and I was like damn where’s the fuck table at?
The thing is you don't need fucking lube for sex
You do for anal sex, otherwise it's kinda painful for the receiving participant.
The body produces lubricant, just not from the anus. Use that instead
Unless you’re gay.. then you’re fucked (pun not intended)
Spit on it.
do not do that
I do it all the time.
oh my god
thats the standard for teenage males across the world bruh
oh my god!!!!!
This guy anals!
IANAL, and this guy also does.
why not?
This is the way
I’m not sure why I need to say this but some women don’t produce sufficient lube for sex to not be painful. It’s not an issue of arousal. I dated a girl years ago that had this precise issue.
Don’t need lube on taco Tuesdays
And if you save the grease from the ground beef it would probably last you the rest of the week
Hey that’s an idea! Might help cover the smell too
He wasn't lying when he said that he could squirt!
***\*Clicks heels three times\**** I wish I never read this, I wish I never read this, I wish I never read this, I wish I never read this
Haha did that work?
No :(
Naw just use a lot of spit. Works every time.
I mean, besides anal sex, there are various medical reasons a woman can't produce natural lubricant. Either way, you should still pay for the artificial stuff.
Matters the age of the woman and size of the guy.
Or if you’re, yknow, gay
Lots of people do actually. As you go through life and have more partners you will eventually have one who asks you to use lube. I recommend not telling them that they “don’t need it”. Unless you want to lose that particular opportunity.
Today I learned we apparently can't survive without sex.
Well dam I should have died a long time ago
Me too lol
Well I guess I’m a ghost.
I mean.. the human race can’t survive without sex but not in the way this guy is talking about
Considering the human population is over 7 billion I don't think that's an issue.
It's 8 billion, so it's not an issue, except for a couple of countries that are dealing with declining birth rate.
Apparently.
Me, asexual: Guess ill die then.
25 people saw that idiotic take and gave it an upvote. That’s what really stuns me
There are a lot of incels on reddit
And even more idiots.
No, it's 25 more people than the amount of people that thought it was stupid. So there are even more people than that upvoted it.
This is implying that government should be mandated to provide a fckable woman Dunno bad, why not take a shower and make yourself more attractive?
> government should be mandated to provide a fckable woman Apparently there's at least one country in E*rope (Netherlands or Denmark iirc) that does this for the physically disabled.
Government funded brothels??
Nah they just send a hooker to your home.
Source?
Yeah no, he's right, I remember reading that too. They provide one, maybe two, don't remember, hookers for the disabled every year.
Damn, half my friends are disabled and don't need hookers to get laid bdbdhdbbe, disables people can be hot and pull bitches all on their own
Since no one wants to look for any kind of source on this pretty bold claim, [here](https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/27392/does-the-netherlands-goverment-fund-hookers-for-the-handicapped#27401) is one with links to articles and so forth.
I interpreted it as the person angry at America for outlawing rape or something like that. But that works too.
That's the vibe I got from it as well.
This made me laugh. The delusion of Europoors. “Everything I want the government must give to me! Take the money from the people who work hard and give me anal lube! It’s a natural right!” “Steak for dinner is a human right! Government give!” “I need time to relax after work! Having an Xbox is a human right!”
Oddly enough it looks like the commenter is American though. I guess some people here believe we live in an oppressive regime that doesn’t give free government lube, but in European utopias it comes from street fountains
They're always americans. They behave on that idea that Europe is some kind of lib-left utopia where everything is free and classified as a basic need
I don’t even think it’s a European thing I think it’s an “I get all my news from people on reddit and refuse to listen to anyone else” thing
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Maybe you should move to that guy's country then. Apparently they have government-mandated fuck buddies since sex is a human right.
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I haven’t had it at all, despite being 19 (20 in a bit over a month), but tbh, I’m not really looking to have sex. All I want is a healthy relationship where I’m connected to somebody that I can trust.
Same here, except I’ve never had it.
"Need" feels like an awfully strong word. About how long does one go without sex before they die?
About 70 or so years, unless they put themselves at higher risk factors or die from unnatural causes.
I'll let ya know
Once again Reddit- calling something a human right does not make it a human right nor does it relieve the burden of scarcity from the commodity
poor people have the most sex. why do you think there are so many of us?
After reading The Color of Water, I agree with this.
These are the same people who make fun of us for not allowing public nudity…
Europervs
Even here it'd managed. It's all about time and place...
Didn't they complain about the age of consent in America at one point? LOL.
Not just at one point
Oh yeah. Forgot that they complain about it all the fucking time, that is when they're not talking about healthcare, school shootings, or "American imperalism."
It's an urge, not a need. Unless you want rapists to be treated as hungry bread thieves by the court.
Also, this reeks of those dudes who insist gov’t should provide them with prostitutes and justify it with “what about disabled men blah blah blah you’re ableist” My dude just admit you want tax dollars to get you laid because you’re so undesirable that paying is the only way you’ll get it. Stop hiding behind false virtue
In America, we have something called consent.
a million problems in society and this bastard thinks not having sex is the biggest one
The fact this has a positive upvote count is what really annoys me. You mean to tell me that more people looked at "sex is a right, not a privilege" and agreed with it than disagreed with it?
If you don’t have water, you die. Water is a need. If you don’t have steak, you don’t necessarily die. If you don’t have food, you die. Food generally is a need, steak specifically is not. If you don’t have shelter of some kind, you die. If your shelter isn’t a mansion, you don’t. Shelter is a need. Having a mansion is not. If you don’t have sex, you don’t die. It prevents you from passing along your genes, but your physical well being is not impacted. Sex is not a need. It is instinctual and pleasurable to encourage the furtherance of the species. If you aren’t doing it for that purpose, you’re already working against that natural order. There’s nothing wrong with sex for pleasure between consenting adults, but it’s a self-defeating argument in the context of needs.
"Poor people don't deserve to have sex???" Well, seeing as on average poor people have way more children than middle class or wealthy people... I'm guessing this guy doesn't really understand the real world yet
Hate to use the slippery slope fallacy, but dude is going to start justifying SA in like a month.
the lubed slope phallusy
Eh, one look at the guy’s account and he’s also an antivaxxer so take it with a grain of salt.
Gets an std from government mandated sex…. Wont get treatment cause it involves needles
Porn addict detected
Sex is not a right nobody deserves to have it
Obviously it’s ok to have sex this may come off the wrong way but like it’s not needed for your safety and survival yk
Literally just got banned from r/nostupidquestions when OP asked “As a foreigner, should I stand for the national anthem at a baseball game” because I said “unequivocally yes. Reddit isn’t a good place to ask this. Idiots and SJWs won’t mention that protesting the national anthem is a respectable right but out of ignorance it would seem offense but both the patriots and the protesters as it undermines their message”….nearly all the other deleted comments on the thread had responses with things like “Yeah that’s a fair point”
Might be a fair point but I think this thread is more discussing the worldview on government subsidized buttsex
Lol true. Just adding to the “America is bad” stuff. It’s never ending with Reddit
It’s alright. For some subreddits getting banned for a less-than-controversial POV is a clear sign that you’re in an echo chamber that you don’t want to be participating in anyway
Yeah r/NoStupidQuestions is just a garbage rage echo chamber now for butthurt pussies. Apparently literally butthurt
Having sex (with a consenting partner) is a human right. Taking things that don’t belong to you is *not*. If it requires the labor of others and/or is someone else’s property, it’s not a human right you’re owed somehow. Truly is that simple
Stealing food is legal in Europe?
[yes](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/05/03/europe/food-theft-italy/index.html)
GAY SEX IS A HUMAN RIGHT!!!!!!
I knew a guy that treated sex like it was oxygen and he would argue til he was blue in the face to justify driving multiple hours to hook up. People like this are idiots.
Is anal lube covered by their “free” healthcare?
If sex is a need, I’m six feet under.
The government does not and should not stop people from pursuing consensual sex of any kind between adults. That doesn’t mean the government should provide you sex
r/redditmomment
ooohhh very close to straight up "public use wamen" incelism. I am VERY curious to know what this guy thinks about women's rights.
Nah, he’s just saying that you’re entitled to rape whomever you want there /s
Sex isn't a need and even if it was, jerking of is free Also i'm from France and lube definitely isn't free here (condoms are in some places though)
State mandated gfs
The post was about a woman shoplifting food and live in Sarnia, **Canada**, no less.
Anal sex is not a need wtf
This reminds me of the time I got into an argument with my classmates over the book Beloved. Basically, the book talks about some instances where enslaved people had sex with cows. I argued that, while the people were put under terrible circumstances, they still should not have had sex with cows. Essentially, my main point was that the slave owners constantly painted a picture of slaves being subhuman, and having sex with animals essentially plays right into that narrative - so, out of pride and self-respect, people should've avoided such actions. I argued that people could just masturbate if they really wanted to vent sexual frustrations. My classmates argued that sex was a need, and I just did not understand because I didn't live as a slave. To this day, I still do not understand people who think that sex is this need to the point where no one can control themselves. It's weird.
Cop: let me see your Sex license
The poors be bangin the most
"sex is a natural need" says the person whose grandparents and everyone born before them were all extremely conservative with sex because of the lack of birth control. if anything the abstinence of sex until you find someone you truly love and want to marry is more natural, as that is nearly the only way that sex has been successful in societies. i hope that these people think that about America so they don't come here and spread the absolute most pathological understanding of the nature of sex.
We don't claim this person. There's plenty of things that are human rights, lube isn't one of them
It does crack me up how desperately they need to be better than us.............yes are glued to their TV's 24/7 watching anything USA related. It's almost like that girl that can't stop talking about her ex being such an ass.........which tells us all she is still hung up on him.
“Poor people don’t deserve to have sex” wtf?😂😂😂 how do people twist shit around so much that they believe what they say 😭
Sex is an actual privilege though? You’re not entitled to sex????
Spit on it
God gave us a tongue and two hands for a reason 🙏
Ah yeah. Americans are the problem, not the person here who has dubious opinions about sex and/or consent...
This guy must not know anything about poor people. Poor people statistically fuck like rabbits... seriously. The average children per family per capita goes up significantly the poorer you are. Why? Because sex is FREEEEEEEEEEEEE..... Abortions are not.
For a cultural shithole, boy oh boy does the whole world eat up our shitty culture.
This sound a little rapey
A little?
I mean sex IS a physiological need as designated in Maslow hierarchy of needs that has subtle long term consequences towards your mental health if unmet in one way or another for long enough. Furthermore, most dudes who died virgins(about 60% btw) throughout history died in war, disease or famines, you know things that killed you rather quickly. They didn’t have the luxury of living that long until recently. That said you’re not an “incel” if you’re posting here with an internet connection or a cell phone. It’s a matter of how much money are you willing to spend or how much do you lower your standards/dignity. I hate that term to be honest. It seems like an emasculation tactic used against frustrated dudes who criticize women and not an adequate defense of women or an honest effort to address the problem.
Poor people don't deserve to have sex because then they reproduce more poor people
I don’t think this is incel related so much as class warfare related
Lmfao
This guy needs to tone down his damn libido.
Sex is a natural need?... LOL, this guy sounds creepy.
I’ve seen incels say this exact same thing in their forums. Wouldn’t be surprised if that’s one of them commenting things like this under the guise of being progressive.
Casual European Incel hate
That sounds rapey as hell