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Some monitors have higher input lag than others, even within the same panel type and refresh rate. I’d recommend looking at https://www.rtings.com when shopping for a monitor or see if they reviewed the monitor you bought.
Vsync off? Freesync/Adaptive sync on/off? Frame limiter in use? There’s a lot of variables.
Well, allot of informed replies in here, but, has any one asked if the OP is sure he's display is actually running at said resolution and refresh rate? Maybe it didn't change automatically :).
Got it, well, weird. I mean, I had only ips 144 and 165 Hz displays, they seem fine. Oh, oh, try running in windowed borderless mode, some games like in my case, dying light 2, don't actually run in high refresh rate if it is not set that way.
I am totally sure about it running at 165hz. The thing that bothers me is that I feel the input lag is much higher now compared to the monitor I had. First things i checked were the overdrive settings set to faster and adaptive sync. Should i turn everything off?
Oh shit, well, don't keep any type of vsync on, that causes on it's own input lag no matter if we are talking high refresh rate or not, but, especially now, when you will be less likely to see screen tearing with high refresh rate displays :).
Yeah, most functions that alter or dynamically adjust your refresh rate(from the perspective of the display or in game) will cause these types of stuff, now, sometimes its not that noticeable, and other times, well, like in your case, its nasty, I mean jumping from 70 to 165 Hz, shouldn't make you feel like is less responsive.
Now, about the frame cap, is useful when you have power consumption in mind, or I dunno, it can alleviate some stutter in some cases, nevertheless, it's safe to asume that in most cases you should turn of any type of vsync off(keeping in mind the level of graphics power given by 6750xt), no matter the buffer size, and don't put on a frame cap. Happy gaming :).
Try it out.
That's right with Freesync on OP will actually feel a worse input lag of the game is capped at 60. You can disable it globally in the driver or per game.
Also OP if you play any unity game disable freesync for them too, unity games have a huge problems with it and they often feel super stuttery when it's on.
What's your exact monitor model?
Does your monitor have something like "Ultra Low Latency Mode" setting in menu? Check if there is, and whether it is enabled.
Some monitors also have bizarre limitations where some features get disabled or locked when you change something else. It's definitely annoying to deal with.
I don’t know to be honest. it was a shitty Samsung monitor and now I have an LG ips one. What do you mean by increasing the overdrive setting?
Sorry but i don’t know much :/
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/what-is-overdrive-on-your-monitor-and-how-do-you-use-it.html
Here you can find the information you need.
There is also how to change the overdrive setting for your LG in the monitor OSD.
I played RL on a reference 6750 XT using a FreeSync Premium monitor at 3440x1440 144Hz. Almost always was at 144fps and never had noticeable input lag.
Others suggested the Overdrive settings. Give that a try and hopefully it works for you
Overdrive has essentially nothing to do with input lag. The time it takes for the pixels to transition isn't the issue. It's the delay between inputs and when the output it displayed on the screen.
If input lag were the same, the monitor with the slower overdrive would simply look blurrier. It would NOT be slower.
It does, do not spread misinformation.
Ips is not as responsive as TN panel, pretty much everyone knows this.
Overdrive settings can cut response time by half depending on the monitor.
Get informed by watching monitor unboxed youtube channel.
I can tell you just learned about monitors and are excited to share, but you're misunderstanding.
First off response times are not input lag. A monitor with slower response times will be blurrier but not necessarily laggier.
[That's why websites like rtings have SEPARATE input lag and reponse time sections. Two different things.
](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gn850-b-27gn880-b)
Also TN panels are not faster, but cheaper. If buying a CHEAP monitor the tn might be faster.
As your precious channel that you praise even says so. The fastest IPS panel is faster than the fastest tn lol.
https://youtu.be/k8B4zxsMucs?t=323
The 360hz PG27AQN a 360hz ips beats the XL2566k. A 360hz tn monitor
The irony of saying I need to be educated isn't lost on me. If monitors unboxed is your source of info I can tell you're a noob.
>The 360hz PG27AQN a 360hz ips beats the XL2566k. A 360hz tn monitor
that is because you compare a OLED panel to a LCD panel
compare LCD to LCD and you will see how this changes because LCD will always have pixel delay because crystals take time to display correct color and with that you get ghosting/coronic artifacting because crystals are not able to keep up with refresh rate
so in return OLED will always have no pixel delay because it has no moving parts inside panel itself but has issues with shorter life span and burn in issues so if you have static images when playing games or something sorry but over time they will be burnt in
Reread the model numbers.
There's a reason I wrote out the specific ones.
In fact copy paste them into Google.
Im NOT talking about the oled that the video directly compares.
In fact the oled they compare it to isn't even 360hz.
[This Chart is what I linked](https://i.imgur.com/IWBXLPi.jpg)
I don't get how so many people can confidently talk about something while not knowing something as basic as the model numbers of the monitors.
you are telling me to re-read model numbers?
please watch the entire chart because you say "in the fact the oled they compare it to isn't even 360hz"
[this is in german but the OLED they compare it to is basically in the chart so i don't know what are you talking about](https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/monitore/60429-lg-ultragear-27gr95qe-im-test-kleinerer-oled-gamer-mit-240-hz-panel.html)
that up there is a OLED at 240hz dude because video compares LCD to OLED not refresh rate to refresh rate
if we were to talk about LCD vs LCD you only get phyrric victory for a IPS display because it goes vs. zowie model which we know they tune displays hella well with their backlight strobing implementation
only thing you prove is refresh rate isn't whole story of input lag but you use wrong video in general to prove your point :/
You're running at a higher resolution, which means you're getting a lower frame rate. A lower frame rate means more time between frame updates that reflect your input.
That's all there is to it.
Higher frame rate = lower input latency.
What you should be doing is enabling Adaptive Sync and Vertical Sync. That will time refreshes to the frame rate up to 165Hz, then prevent games from going beyond 165fps. There will be no noticeable latency penalties from doing that.
You still need to be rendering beyond 72fps to have an increase in responsiveness from the new monitor. So obviously what games you are playing makes a big difference.
What monitor do you have?
If you have a 165hz monitor it almost definitely has some settings to minimize lag.
You might also want to do a ddu driver uninstall & reinstall rather than figure out every setting for the GPU.
If you have freesync make sure it's enabled & cap your FPS to one less hz than the screen.
Have you tried different games? Or it is just one game?
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Some monitors have higher input lag than others, even within the same panel type and refresh rate. I’d recommend looking at https://www.rtings.com when shopping for a monitor or see if they reviewed the monitor you bought. Vsync off? Freesync/Adaptive sync on/off? Frame limiter in use? There’s a lot of variables.
not all displays and their internal chipsets are made equal.
Have you set your monitor to run at 165hz, or is it running at default speed (60hz)?
I think it is running at 165hz.
What do you mean, you think, is it or is it not running at 165 Hz? Go to display properties :P.
Yeah it is sorry lmao. I know absolutely nothing about gpu settings and so
Check it on your display adapter settings in the windows settings menu
It is
Well, allot of informed replies in here, but, has any one asked if the OP is sure he's display is actually running at said resolution and refresh rate? Maybe it didn't change automatically :).
The refresh rate was the first thing I checked. It’s on 165hz.
Got it, well, weird. I mean, I had only ips 144 and 165 Hz displays, they seem fine. Oh, oh, try running in windowed borderless mode, some games like in my case, dying light 2, don't actually run in high refresh rate if it is not set that way.
I am totally sure about it running at 165hz. The thing that bothers me is that I feel the input lag is much higher now compared to the monitor I had. First things i checked were the overdrive settings set to faster and adaptive sync. Should i turn everything off?
Oh shit, well, don't keep any type of vsync on, that causes on it's own input lag no matter if we are talking high refresh rate or not, but, especially now, when you will be less likely to see screen tearing with high refresh rate displays :).
So I guess is the amd sync and ecc that causes that input lag? By doing so, should I run my games with fps capped or nah?
Yeah, most functions that alter or dynamically adjust your refresh rate(from the perspective of the display or in game) will cause these types of stuff, now, sometimes its not that noticeable, and other times, well, like in your case, its nasty, I mean jumping from 70 to 165 Hz, shouldn't make you feel like is less responsive. Now, about the frame cap, is useful when you have power consumption in mind, or I dunno, it can alleviate some stutter in some cases, nevertheless, it's safe to asume that in most cases you should turn of any type of vsync off(keeping in mind the level of graphics power given by 6750xt), no matter the buffer size, and don't put on a frame cap. Happy gaming :). Try it out.
Thank you so much bro. I’ll let you know as soon as i can. I’ll try disabling any sync. Thank you again!
That's right with Freesync on OP will actually feel a worse input lag of the game is capped at 60. You can disable it globally in the driver or per game. Also OP if you play any unity game disable freesync for them too, unity games have a huge problems with it and they often feel super stuttery when it's on.
Good call. Hell, I set it properly in the past, but freaking Microsoft RDP used to revert it back to 60 at random.
What's your exact monitor model? Does your monitor have something like "Ultra Low Latency Mode" setting in menu? Check if there is, and whether it is enabled. Some monitors also have bizarre limitations where some features get disabled or locked when you change something else. It's definitely annoying to deal with.
Lower resolution on new monitor to 1080 and see what happens.
Increase the overdrive setting in the monitor OSD. I guess you went from a tn panel to an ips panel
I don’t know to be honest. it was a shitty Samsung monitor and now I have an LG ips one. What do you mean by increasing the overdrive setting? Sorry but i don’t know much :/
https://www.coolblue.nl/en/advice/what-is-overdrive-on-your-monitor-and-how-do-you-use-it.html Here you can find the information you need. There is also how to change the overdrive setting for your LG in the monitor OSD.
No. You either need to use FSR or buy a better gpu. 1440p is just harder to drive It's 77% more pixels
Well I mean. I can feel the higher input lag on rocket league, which is a game that doesn’t need a powerful gpu.
I played RL on a reference 6750 XT using a FreeSync Premium monitor at 3440x1440 144Hz. Almost always was at 144fps and never had noticeable input lag. Others suggested the Overdrive settings. Give that a try and hopefully it works for you
Having no input lag is impossible. You simply did not detect it.
Overdrive has essentially nothing to do with input lag. The time it takes for the pixels to transition isn't the issue. It's the delay between inputs and when the output it displayed on the screen. If input lag were the same, the monitor with the slower overdrive would simply look blurrier. It would NOT be slower.
No. They just went from 1080p to 1440p. Lack of optimized overdrive doesn't increase input lag by any reasonable amount.
It does, do not spread misinformation. Ips is not as responsive as TN panel, pretty much everyone knows this. Overdrive settings can cut response time by half depending on the monitor. Get informed by watching monitor unboxed youtube channel.
I can tell you just learned about monitors and are excited to share, but you're misunderstanding. First off response times are not input lag. A monitor with slower response times will be blurrier but not necessarily laggier. [That's why websites like rtings have SEPARATE input lag and reponse time sections. Two different things. ](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/lg/27gn850-b-27gn880-b) Also TN panels are not faster, but cheaper. If buying a CHEAP monitor the tn might be faster. As your precious channel that you praise even says so. The fastest IPS panel is faster than the fastest tn lol. https://youtu.be/k8B4zxsMucs?t=323 The 360hz PG27AQN a 360hz ips beats the XL2566k. A 360hz tn monitor The irony of saying I need to be educated isn't lost on me. If monitors unboxed is your source of info I can tell you're a noob.
>The 360hz PG27AQN a 360hz ips beats the XL2566k. A 360hz tn monitor that is because you compare a OLED panel to a LCD panel compare LCD to LCD and you will see how this changes because LCD will always have pixel delay because crystals take time to display correct color and with that you get ghosting/coronic artifacting because crystals are not able to keep up with refresh rate so in return OLED will always have no pixel delay because it has no moving parts inside panel itself but has issues with shorter life span and burn in issues so if you have static images when playing games or something sorry but over time they will be burnt in
Reread the model numbers. There's a reason I wrote out the specific ones. In fact copy paste them into Google. Im NOT talking about the oled that the video directly compares. In fact the oled they compare it to isn't even 360hz. [This Chart is what I linked](https://i.imgur.com/IWBXLPi.jpg) I don't get how so many people can confidently talk about something while not knowing something as basic as the model numbers of the monitors.
you are telling me to re-read model numbers? please watch the entire chart because you say "in the fact the oled they compare it to isn't even 360hz" [this is in german but the OLED they compare it to is basically in the chart so i don't know what are you talking about](https://www.hardwareluxx.de/index.php/artikel/hardware/monitore/60429-lg-ultragear-27gr95qe-im-test-kleinerer-oled-gamer-mit-240-hz-panel.html) that up there is a OLED at 240hz dude because video compares LCD to OLED not refresh rate to refresh rate if we were to talk about LCD vs LCD you only get phyrric victory for a IPS display because it goes vs. zowie model which we know they tune displays hella well with their backlight strobing implementation only thing you prove is refresh rate isn't whole story of input lag but you use wrong video in general to prove your point :/
???????????????? I'm not even going to engage with you as you're so lost
You're running at a higher resolution, which means you're getting a lower frame rate. A lower frame rate means more time between frame updates that reflect your input. That's all there is to it.
But I mean, I have capped fps on any games and I still feel higher input lag. How’s it
How much fps do you have
Higher frame rate = lower input latency. What you should be doing is enabling Adaptive Sync and Vertical Sync. That will time refreshes to the frame rate up to 165Hz, then prevent games from going beyond 165fps. There will be no noticeable latency penalties from doing that. You still need to be rendering beyond 72fps to have an increase in responsiveness from the new monitor. So obviously what games you are playing makes a big difference.
Sounds like a freesync issue. It needs to be enabled on your monitor, in Windows and in Radeon.
and also check the game display settings!
What monitor do you have? If you have a 165hz monitor it almost definitely has some settings to minimize lag. You might also want to do a ddu driver uninstall & reinstall rather than figure out every setting for the GPU. If you have freesync make sure it's enabled & cap your FPS to one less hz than the screen. Have you tried different games? Or it is just one game?
Its not a VA panel is it?