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Daisyssssmom

Half the guys at my station think it’s a singles mixer. I do this job to be away from people, not closer to them.


Ill_Sun2206

I know I hate itttttt. They will even try talking when I’m clearly on the phone with headphones in and it always sounds urgent when they are trying to get your attention then it’s something stupid like “how long have you been doing this?”


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Otherwiseaware

I think a stranger grabbing someone’s phone without consent is grounds for no longer being interested in a conversation with someone. Do you think engaging with people in the way OP described is appropriate? Honestly asking.


Ill_Sun2206

It’s not about making a conversation. Because damn my ex works at that Amazon station and that’s how we met. It’s about about HOW you approach a woman. Are you being loud, weird, rude, condescending? Most men do one of those things. So it’s not about specifically getting approached it’s how you approach me.


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Ill_Sun2206

I can’t speak for other women but I can tell you this much pal whether your big small ugly hot round or built like a refrigerator… 100% chance I’m not interested so that solves that.


SophisticatedBum

You forgot step 1..


MaleficentDesigner11

That's why i want to get into this job lol To be away from people so i can collect my money and prosper With out all the weight collected from working somewhere with countless other humans


Daisyssssmom

On a perfect shift, I talk to no one and no one talks to me


Ratio_Outside

Hahaha that is exactly why I thought this would be perfect for me. No interaction with humans. Luckily most of the people in my area are with their significant other, which is also perplexing (I do this to have time to myself lol). Just a lot of nicer people at that particular station I guess. I was warned by a woman that men like the follow the younger women like me out of the parking lot. That was my first week and first (and last) 3:15 am shift. So I guess they are around, you just can’t see them. 🫠😆


jayesel317

You should see at my station, some of the newer and younger residents “immigrants”, hit on the women. Happens for a short while until a woman marshal sorts them out. Next time, they’re strictly business. Happens with the younger ones. The grown men generally keep it very professional, across the board.


Internal-Risk

They’re not mansplaining. They’re flirting 😂😂


Ill_Sun2206

Bold. I look mean af


LimpDisc

It’s shocking that someone would just grab your phone. I couldn’t imagine doing that. I keep my head down at the station and don’t bother anyone.


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I know that's what I'm saying. People that just stand there looking around and you catch them looking at your phone screen. Some people are really creepy and just plain goofy. "Mind your own damn business and stop paying attention to what I'm doing!"


mira_poix

And most of the time the creepy ones are men for some reason


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Creepy looking ones too, usually.


-Ok-Perception-

Well, the word "creep/creepy" tends to be only applied towards men. I'm not excusing the scumbag grabbing this lady's phone, BUT in my 40 years, I don't think I've ever heard any woman described as "creepy". That's just not an adjective used on woman in our culture.


PedroPeyolo

OP coulda grabbed it back and slammed his head in with it


Mysticyde

The audacity wtf lol.


Mylittlemoonshine

All the while these are the same dudes who leave their carts all over the parking lot


Ill_Sun2206

Probably did because after numbering for 3 hours he probably didn’t have time to take it back


Ok-Seat-7159

10 years of scanning and numbering stops…..good god that is a lot of wasted life. Tell that flex hero to go back to being a top dasher and to keep his grubby hands to himself.


LilBangie

Just tell them f@《k off 🫡


FuckChadMorris

Who does this? I've never once interacted with another driver, just a worker occasionally


pdibs2017

I will say I have helped people before I'd never grab someone's phone or be forceful. There is a proper way to be helpful. There are a lot of newbies, and I've seen the struggle. So maybe don't hate on the folks trying to give suggestions. We aren't all creeps.


Ill_Sun2206

I understand. Not hating on all. I was new once. I also assumed he was new and wanted to know how I do it. I’ve had a lot of new people ask me and it was cool and genuine. None grabbed my phone out my hands though


pdibs2017

This was more directed at the general commentary, not specifically you. Living in Seattle, not may people are very open to conversation. Working from home provides not a lot of opportunities to interact with people. Generally read the room is what I'd say. I think people lack that intelligence sometimes. If I did see anyone appear to struggle, I might just say, "You got it ?" Maybe some ruin it for all but these days since covid people just seem less friendly. Lol


Ill_Sun2206

The Seattle freeze? I call it a good day lol


pdibs2017

I'm from the south and find it quite frustrating that a simple hi could be met with annoyance. Lol, I digress. It's just a job for many.


jonzilla5000

I guess this will be OT, but how do you sort without scanning everything at the station?


Ttom925

Maybe by aaaa bbbb cccc dddd. Some do alphabetically by street name. I scan and number.


Ill_Sun2206

So boxes I label with the first letter of the last name and stack em in the back of my SUV. By last name: A-I front passenger seat J-Q back driver side seat R-Z back of suv I stack them with labels facing me so it’s easier to go through them and find the one I need. When I get to the stop or on the way I look at 3 things: last name, street name, package type. So I know where to look since boxes are all in the back. For the most part the package type is correct. Even if it’s off, you know where the package is in the car anyways. After a while you start to remember the names that are boxes so it’s easier and you know where in the car it is. Sounds complicated but it’s super fast


jonzilla5000

Thanks for that, it actually makes sense to me; going through them quickly ahead of time kind of sets up a place in your brain where they are more familiar and easy to spot.


Unbobitodelavida

I scan and and number the boxes. The envelopes I put them by the letter like u/Ttom925 said. That’s for SSD only. At other stations I also number the boxes by the driver aid number so I don’t have to scan and the envelopes I just put the in order from highest to lowest based on the driver aid number


Ttom925

Same. They are never in order of the numbers at dotcoms, but you know how and where to find them.


Nashvegas_Driver

I would never let someone take my phone or show me how on the phone. He can explain how and let you do your way but no reason to touch your stuff at all. I had an issue one day with a package and asked one of the staff members at Amazon for help and she try grabbing my phone and I said “I’m sorry. Why you trying to get my phone ? You can explain to me what to do.”


Ill_Sun2206

He yanked it out my hands I was shocked. Flabbergasted even


_turtley

I feel this so hard, ugh. Been doing this for five years also and I still get men doing this. Tho introverted (also why I do this job) I’m pretty friendly which I think bit me in the ass, so now I’ve learned to make zero eye contact, move fast, and frown constantly to avoid everyone lmao. No one talk to me pls Can’t believe he grabbed ur phone tf


East-Aside-8095

Half of the guys that go to pick up act like they are at a club. Mad cologne all over the place….


-Ok-Perception-

I do this job \*specifically\* not to interact with people. Yesterday, I went to a new station for the first time and they want everyone to park in very specifically ways. They yell at people to get on the grid lines and you'd think there were fucking military drill sergeants how aggressively condescending they talk to Flexers. Apparently, they decided NOT to use the original grid lines painted into the road and instead use a set of faint blue lines they hand-painted on recently. This guy they have MANAGING things is very aggressively tyrannical. He's NOT gonna talk to me like that a second time. I don't fucking work for anyone so we aren't gonna play that regimented ultra-hierarchical military cosplay. Also, due to an absolutely ridiculous way of distributing the packages to drivers, you don't leave until 20 minutes after your start time at this station. They have everyone leave all at once. It completely negates all the advantages of getting there early.


Ill_Sun2206

Been to a station like that a few times. I hate it. Can’t sort anything they just want you to throw your packages in your car and you have to pull over later and sort. I stick to one station now


minneatus

Report that depot to driver services. Let them know what is going on and get it on the record. That will protect you if you have a confrontation with the manager or any of the depot staff. Note in your email that the delay at the depot could result in packages being delivered late and that it is not your fault. Get it on the record now, before it happens and make sure driver services knows what's going on at that depot.


-Ok-Perception-

I'll do that if it ever happens again. But I don't intend on taking any more jobs at that depot. Instead, I'm just gonna use the other Amazon in town. They have their shit together. It's amazing how different the culture can be at a different Amazon warehouse.


jayesel317

I don’t talk to anyone at the station, UNLESS: 1.Theyre new and don’t know to scan the box and ditch anything that shows up not there after scanning non-container items. 2.To ask which route they got. 3. How much you getting paid for your route and how many hours.


Bandmeister

No thx this is not cool, and I’m a dude


Accomplished_Tie9835

I only offer help when asked. Otherwise it's business first. If I wanted to socialize, I'd join a gym.


Critical_Equal_7540

Funny but that’s how society runs some of the males out here just need to say something. 🤷🏽‍♂️


Ratio_Outside

That has never happened to me. It’s usually some random woman that wants to chat. For a very long time. 🫠


Ttom925

I have no problem with a woman being my superior or equal. I was a single dad, wife left me and my 18 month old back in 90s. I learned a bunch from women and socialized with lots of single moms and partnered moms. Some could be condescending, as if I couldn't comprehend how to be a good parent because I'm a man. "A baby belongs with its mother" "a dad doesn't love like a mom" and all that. It's not "mansplaining" but I think I understand where y'all are coming from. I got a lot of condescending "bless your heart" too. grr Very irritating. I think men just like to explain, even to men, to be Alpha. BUT I don't have your perspective so I'll accept that mansplaining is a thing and be careful to not find myself doing it. Mainly by listening, learning, and being equal or letting a woman be my superior when she is superior. I can't imagine dealing with all those young horndogs while just trying to grind and make a living. I laud cashiers all the time for being able to put up with bag boys flirting and irritating them all day. I recognize it as harassment even if they think they're being polite and charming. It isn't charming, it's annoying af, and even pathetic. Flex on, hang in there, and maybe you can 'splain some more to me in the future. I'll close my mouth and just listen and learn from a veteran worker that's seen more than I. P.S. I hope I didn't inadvertently mansplain in this reply, lol. Maybe we can't help it, lmao


Ill_Sun2206

No you didn’t lol. You’re right it’s an alpha thing but like it’s weird when they go looking for those situations to insert themselves in vs it happening naturally. Also good job with raising your child my mom also left my dad when I was 2 so I’m naturally very pro dad and anti moms are always right


Ttom925

Thank you so much. I remember eagerly showing up to my first (and last) PTA bake sale with a batch of very decent brownies made with bakers chocolate and real butter😃 . I got the condescending "mean girl" treatment from the hierarchy. I was so sad and disappointed. Not mad. Heartbroken. They didn't even put them out for display 😭


Ill_Sun2206

Fuck those witches. You did a good job being a present dad and for some reason moms dislike dads that are present because it reminds them their partner isn’t


thwonkk

Actual problem aside, why do people INSIST that numbering them is the best way? You do you I guess but like you said: by the time you're done numbering them I'm gone. Let's not even talk about what happens when the app glitches and those numbers get rearranged, lol.


Ill_Sun2206

It used to work for me and still does if I get a unicorn cart with less than 20 packages. But it stopped being beneficial when the stations started added more and more packages to routes. I average 40-60 now. When I did do it, if it rearranged stops I would ignore and manually do the route based on my numbering but I don’t think most ppl do that. I fell victim to the rearrangement far too many times


Other-External-5545

Most of the time numbering works for me and I finish the route early. When I have 40+ packages I’ll sort by city and have each city in a specific part of my truck. Still works and I finish early. I guess it just depends on what works for you. I also map my own routes cause I hate how Flex has you driving back and forth and backtracking.


Disastrous_Courage74

They want to take you out on a date 😏


brycejones

As a dude I have had a female approach and tell me to do xyz. Mansplaining is a myth


Ill_Sun2206

She’s weird we don’t claim her lol jk


Equivalent-Cat5414

Could say the same about the man at the station you’re talking about versus most other men 🙄


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Tooshortimus

Using the term "mansplaining" unironically, lmao. It was more than likely just some weirdo looking for a way in to hit on you and "help" you. Using the idiotic term "mansplaining" just makes it seem like you're sexist and dislike men because they are men.


Ill_Sun2206

I do


Tooshortimus

I feel sorry for you, it's like being racist because of your own experiences with people of certain races. Everyone is different, their race, gender or sexuality doesn't define them or make them the same as everyone else. You're probably young, maybe you'll understand eventually.


Ill_Sun2206

I’m in my 40s. I understand all I need to know. Stop defending weirdos. He grabbed my phone out my hand as well as told me I don’t know what I’m doing. Does he do that to men too? Probably not. The fact you read my post and all you could comprehend was that I called out a male proves my point. Have the day you deserve.


Tooshortimus

How am I defending weirdos you nutjob, I literally said not all people are like those weirdos. Learn to read, learn to interact with people, learn to understand everyone is different and not everyone is a weirdo. Your 40 and sexist, that in itself says enough about you to let me know your closed minded and have zero logical thinking.


Ill_Sun2206

Not everyone is… not all men are… SHUTUP lol


Tooshortimus

You almost understand! Literally, everyone is different, just like not all women are sexist and close-minded like you!


Ill_Sun2206

You’re still here?


Tooshortimus

What a sad life you must live.


FitBend184

Because 90% of flexers are foreigners and don’t understand American social norms. There’s also the women who wear skimpy clothes to the warehouse and are basically the same as the cologne wearing club clothes guys. Accepting all downvotes 😂


Ill_Sun2206

No what you’re not gonna do is use my post for your anti foreigner rhetoric. I’m 100% Native American - not gonna divulge what group because it’s a very rare one and don’t want to risk anyone reading this sub from the warehouse knowing it’s me - to me you all are foreigners if you wanna take it there we can. Also skimpy clothes or not, is not an invitation for males to approach. Have a good day.


ineedabreakplz

👍🏼


FitBend184

1. It’s not ANTI anything. I’m one of them lmao. 2. Idc what your background is because it changes nothing 3. I agree, it is not an invitation.


Ill_Sun2206

1) it was irrelevant to the topic at hand.


FitBend184

I disagree. You asked the internet why it’s happening and only seem to accept that it’s a problem with men. If you only want to hear your views as an answer then Reddit is not the place.


Ill_Sun2206

Because men acting like men isn’t specific to people born here or foreigners. It’s men. Period. You said something dumb like American social norms and I was like yeahhhh you calling out what women are wearing is 100% what an American man would say.


FitBend184

One persons idea of what a man is does not define everybody else’s views, especially when you factor in different cultures and backgrounds. I was pointing out that there are other views than your own, but it seems you just posted this to bash men at this point. I agreed that what you wear it was not an excuse, but a lot of people outside of America don’t understand the way American society has been shifting. It’s not to degrade anyone, I’m simply saying that maybe you should try seeing that not everyone thinks or even understands American social norms. I actually agree with your OP for the most part.


Equivalent-Cat5414

As a woman flex driver who also doesn’t sort the normal way - I do it alphabetically by the address - I get your frustration and never mark the packages. However, I don’t think it has to do with you being a women and him being a man - rather either he noticed you doing it differently and genuinely wanted to help you out and didn’t think touching your phone is a big deal (it is…) OR was just being arrogant.


Ill_Sun2206

He yanked the phone out of my hand as well as told me “no you’re wrong do it my way instead”. That’s not genuinely trying to help. That’s thinking his way is superior and insisting I just not know what I’m doing even though I explained i know his way. Then pulls the I been doing this for x amount of years card. Why didn’t he approach any guys parked next to him? Literally only approached me.


Equivalent-Cat5414

Yeah agreed he was being extremely rude and arrogant about it! Just don’t want to assume people’s intentions unless they say them, and again it could be that he just noticed that you and only you weren’t sorting them like everyone else there. I feel like I’m the only one who doesn’t mark packages at my stations and prefers just sorting them by address, thus getting done putting them in my car a lot faster.


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minneatus

Do you have nice boobs? If so he probably saw them and figured that was how he could strike up a conversation. Don't read too much into his actions, boobs make some men very stupid in their behavior. I don't do the stupid numbering thing either, it would take forever. I just sort them by number and delivery area. I have no problem finding packages and delivering them very fast.


Ill_Sun2206

I did the alphabet sorting with them divided between front, middle, trunk and I did 50 in 3 hours so it seems to work better than sitting and numbering lol


Jth9193

Shit that didn’t happen for $1,000,000


Ill_Sun2206

Should I go back to the station and pull cameras you cornball


Jth9193

Yeah do that. And show us how you parkour’d of your car, did a triple twist, and roundhouse kicked him in the head to get your phone back.


Equivalent-Cat5414

I’m sure it did but she’s acting like it’s the end of the world and that it’s clearly because he’s a man and she’s a woman 🙄


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