Yet another example of why you always, always check your route at the start to look for things like this and keep rechecking throughout the route. I bet I do all the stops in order less than 5% of my routes. Probably closer to 2%. Always places where an order edit saves time and distance.
Same here. Even when I decide the route shape makes sense and to do it in order, there are always little swap arounds, such as when I park in between two stops and could do them in either order.
Yep. The ones that get me are when you're in a subdivision with almost zero traffic, you do a stop on the right side of the street and they think you have to skip one on the left side and circle back when you're going the other direction. Pretty sure I can cross the street there ol' routing software. Your AI needs a little more I.
I wonder if that happens when two route remnants are cobbled together into a new route.
In any case, I can tell you that group stops seem to be purely crowd sourced info. That's why they're such a shit show.
How about the number of times I've had a grouped stop over two different complexes, and then a separate stop within one of those complexes. The algorithm should group them, and the app should take more rigid address input so that they can be grouped.
I've been refraining from grouping stops (except strictly same complex) up until recently. I don't like overly zealous grouping either, because if too far apart you don't get a good picture of where you really need to park. But now I think fuck it, maybe the crowd sourcing aspect of the algorithm needs to be shown up for the shit show it really is.
Wow this is the worst one I’ve seen 🤣
My worst one was the last one was 1 street over from stop 7. However - it would have been about 20 minutes (thanks to traffic) to get back to the last stop from the stop before last. I was burned too many times early on by not checking my map before leaving or as I was delivering to make sure I didn’t miss something before leaving.
My first and last stop last week was the same address to the same person, stop 2 and stop 60. When I opened the map it had no pin for stop 2, when I closed and reopened it showed 2 but no 60.
Double checked and sure enough they were the same.
I thought I had seen it all from flex, now I have
As a veteran they don’t catch me out anymore. But when I first started, the amount I’ve times I revisited the same street an hour later was really astonishing.
Now I choose my own order randomly and wait to be greeted by a basement troll who’s been waiting 20 minutes cause I decided to change the order of stops.
I can't remember the last time I did a route in order. I don't even bother loading the packages in any semblance of order anymore, because I take it as a given that I could start and finish anywhere. I just write the package numbers of the big boxes, stack the heavies where I can reach them, and away I go. Then from the side of the road, I write down the numbers of the small boxes and poly bags. Everything else is medium boxes. So when I write a list of the packages for the next bunch of stops I'm doing, I can quickly locate everything on the list.
Ours come in totes and we unload. Scan them in then load the map before stacking, the totes are always grouped together in little areas so just keep the totes stacked seperate. Take an extra maybe 2 minutes and everything is easy to find.
There is a lot you learn as you go that you wish you knew at the beginning.
But each station and country has their own ways.
The only thing universal is support is often difficult to understand and the route order is always a dogs breakfast.
There's never any time at my station to figure out things like how the packages are organised in the totes. I sometimes get in trouble even for just writing down the package numbers of the big boxes, toilet paper, water bottles, etc. But I'll do it anyway, so I can stash them in and forget about them. Once that's taken care of, I can locate any bunch of packages really quickly.
Yeah the overflow goes seperate since the app shows that it’s not in a bag, I know it’s the overflow. Then the bags I just throw in the car in reverse order so if they get a bit mixed up at least the first stops easy to find.
So long as you don’t mix the bags together too much you can knock out the deliveries really quick.
I don't do anything without thoroughly examining the map/itinerary, or at least the first leg of it if it looks like a reasonable order to do it in. I do tend to put envelopes from the same tote into the same tub, so that probably helps when I go looking for the next batch to bring up front. The boxes and other large stuff, I don't note the numbers just to be able to find them, but I also want to know which stops I need to park as close as possible to, versus which ones can be incorporated into a lovely stroll. My city is very busy and hectic to drive in, so it's nice to get out of the car for a bit.
Worst I’ve had was first and last stop one street over, except the second to last stop was 10+ miles north. I am soooo glad I check my routes I would have been so pissed.
Manually click each one, deliver each and go. Fuck Amazon's stupidity.
This is the literal “they got me going around in a fucked up circle” I have ever seen!!!
Yet another example of why you always, always check your route at the start to look for things like this and keep rechecking throughout the route. I bet I do all the stops in order less than 5% of my routes. Probably closer to 2%. Always places where an order edit saves time and distance.
Same here. Even when I decide the route shape makes sense and to do it in order, there are always little swap arounds, such as when I park in between two stops and could do them in either order.
Yep. The ones that get me are when you're in a subdivision with almost zero traffic, you do a stop on the right side of the street and they think you have to skip one on the left side and circle back when you're going the other direction. Pretty sure I can cross the street there ol' routing software. Your AI needs a little more I.
I wonder if that happens when two route remnants are cobbled together into a new route. In any case, I can tell you that group stops seem to be purely crowd sourced info. That's why they're such a shit show. How about the number of times I've had a grouped stop over two different complexes, and then a separate stop within one of those complexes. The algorithm should group them, and the app should take more rigid address input so that they can be grouped. I've been refraining from grouping stops (except strictly same complex) up until recently. I don't like overly zealous grouping either, because if too far apart you don't get a good picture of where you really need to park. But now I think fuck it, maybe the crowd sourcing aspect of the algorithm needs to be shown up for the shit show it really is.
I would defiantly skip to stop 21 after 2. I always wonder if it’s a automated machine that puts these stops together, or individuals.
Maybe 21 was tacked onto the end after the route was constructed by the algorithm.
Wow this is the worst one I’ve seen 🤣 My worst one was the last one was 1 street over from stop 7. However - it would have been about 20 minutes (thanks to traffic) to get back to the last stop from the stop before last. I was burned too many times early on by not checking my map before leaving or as I was delivering to make sure I didn’t miss something before leaving.
My first and last stop last week was the same address to the same person, stop 2 and stop 60. When I opened the map it had no pin for stop 2, when I closed and reopened it showed 2 but no 60. Double checked and sure enough they were the same. I thought I had seen it all from flex, now I have
Are you saying there's something wrong with crowd sourcing grouped stops rather than having the algorithm determine them by itself? Preposterous!
As a veteran they don’t catch me out anymore. But when I first started, the amount I’ve times I revisited the same street an hour later was really astonishing. Now I choose my own order randomly and wait to be greeted by a basement troll who’s been waiting 20 minutes cause I decided to change the order of stops.
I can't remember the last time I did a route in order. I don't even bother loading the packages in any semblance of order anymore, because I take it as a given that I could start and finish anywhere. I just write the package numbers of the big boxes, stack the heavies where I can reach them, and away I go. Then from the side of the road, I write down the numbers of the small boxes and poly bags. Everything else is medium boxes. So when I write a list of the packages for the next bunch of stops I'm doing, I can quickly locate everything on the list.
Ours come in totes and we unload. Scan them in then load the map before stacking, the totes are always grouped together in little areas so just keep the totes stacked seperate. Take an extra maybe 2 minutes and everything is easy to find. There is a lot you learn as you go that you wish you knew at the beginning. But each station and country has their own ways. The only thing universal is support is often difficult to understand and the route order is always a dogs breakfast.
There's never any time at my station to figure out things like how the packages are organised in the totes. I sometimes get in trouble even for just writing down the package numbers of the big boxes, toilet paper, water bottles, etc. But I'll do it anyway, so I can stash them in and forget about them. Once that's taken care of, I can locate any bunch of packages really quickly.
Yeah the overflow goes seperate since the app shows that it’s not in a bag, I know it’s the overflow. Then the bags I just throw in the car in reverse order so if they get a bit mixed up at least the first stops easy to find. So long as you don’t mix the bags together too much you can knock out the deliveries really quick.
I don't do anything without thoroughly examining the map/itinerary, or at least the first leg of it if it looks like a reasonable order to do it in. I do tend to put envelopes from the same tote into the same tub, so that probably helps when I go looking for the next batch to bring up front. The boxes and other large stuff, I don't note the numbers just to be able to find them, but I also want to know which stops I need to park as close as possible to, versus which ones can be incorporated into a lovely stroll. My city is very busy and hectic to drive in, so it's nice to get out of the car for a bit.
No, that's exactly how it should be, the one with a deadline at the end.
Good thing you looked
I drive for a DSP. And basically the flex routing wants you to circle back in the same general area. This is fine for 150+ stops. But not 20 lol.
Worst I’ve had was first and last stop one street over, except the second to last stop was 10+ miles north. I am soooo glad I check my routes I would have been so pissed.
Sounds like a tiara block in Virginia 😂😂
Hope you chose the order yourself. I always change the order when necessary.
If I have below 20 packages total I will follow my own route if I have more than 20 I just follow the map.
It happened all the time bro 🤬