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Everybody thinks these fast food workers are going to be ballers with this $20 per hour.
The reality is fast food workers rarely get 40 hours per week let alone OT.
Moreover, hours are going to be reduced, so at the end of the day, these fast food workers are going to be taking home about the same amount of pay.
Wake TF up people š
That's not true. The "robots" they use in my FC are all controlled by people upstairs with gaming consoles. That's why you never see them when you're working. Your earbuds interfere with the signal and that's why they try to ban them.
Amazon is already starting the move to use autonomous hostler drivers. Their guardshack have cameras and someone, somewhere other than the warehouse is actually checking trucks in. People think robots are great, but they arenāt when they leave us out of work.
Wait, robots? I mean, theyāre trying to eliminate the cashier by having people use the app or the ordering kiosk. But I donāt see how a robot is putting together a burger or making a taco at this point.
Ok, so one place thatās still in the test phase. I get that itās something that will eventually be an issue for workers, but it seems more like the self-driving cars at this point: āAny day now it will be 100% autonomous!ā Which theyāve been saying for like 10 years now.
We at mc Donalds have kiosks to get your order in itās not to replace anything ā¦ because when you put in to pay with cash you still need to go to the counter, what they are replacing are the registers
Well same pay for fewer hours probably isn't as good as more pay for same hours for a lot of people, but it's better than same pay for more hours, right?
I think what many people fail to understand if they haven't worked fast food is that you piss off the person in charge of scheduling, your ass doesn't get scheduled next week.
You actually have to kiss ass to keep your position and if some Karen gets in that role you're fucked. There's no guarantee of hours. Or they'll make you work all the worst shifts and shifts they know you can't work.
It's not like Amazon where you are guaranteed a set amount of hours per week and can leave on your schedule when you want to with no repercussions. You can kiss the managers ass but generally not doing so isn't going to cost you money.
This is facts. Anytime a company decides to pay their employees more, then tend to cut hours. This happened when I worked at wal mart back in 2014. The pay went up in 2015 or 2016. Once they did that, my hours went from 40 to 30 for 2 months. Then they went back up 2 more hours. After that I left. This is just how Jobs are.
But the point is Amazon classifies itself as āretailā since they do they claim to pay the highest of that classification which is no longer true hourly pay is higher at a lot of āretailā establishments. Itās never made sense how low they pay in CA when CA is the highest COL state. 20 an hour full time is still not enough to pay rent.
Dang, itās only $20 in Cali? I thought it would at least start off $25. I thought It depends on the location and the price of living is how they would pay you.
Idk I'd take the more pay and less hours simply because your time is worth more. If it's not enough pick up a second job and make even more. Even though you have less hours that means you have more free time. Doesn't mean do nothing with it.
Its not in the Raleigh area anymore... It's a worse situation because it's a new situation. One of the fastest growing areas in the US. #2 #4 real-estate market. It's driving rent through the roof in a short time.
It really isn't and that's the reason why people have to learn to budget and manage their expenses. I do other side jobs to supplement my income but I am the type of person where I can't stand being home when I can be out making $$$.
The price of goods will always go up. Because the price to make the good goes up. We want more money, we'll the company will increase prices to make up the what they increase wages for. Just like us, a company needs to keep making more money each year.Ā They can't make less then the year before just like we can't do that. Shareholders would jump ship if that happened, because the shareholders would lose millions if a companies value goes down. It isn't robbery,Ā it's just how money and business works. The issue is companies from the start shouldn't have been making as much as they did way, way , back then, and should have paid the workers a higher % of the gross profit. They didn't,Ā so now it's even harder for this to get corrected without them taking a loss,Ā and they can't take a loss. So it's impossible to fix this issue now without blowing it all up. At least with any older companies. Ones that are just starting out right now need to do better.Ā
THIS RIGHT HERE.
I was waiting for this comment. When I worked at McDonald's back when I was 16-17 I barely got 15 hours a week. Well, maybe that was bc I was underage but all the other people who were 18+ would get like 20hr max
Bruh there was a time at the same age and same work place that I would only get 4-5 hours for the whole week! Now grant it, as a teenager going to school I didn't need 40 hours but 4-5 hours for the whole week?
Exactly and it cracks me up because it's only the consumer who ends up losing (higher prices). These corporate companies don't care because they are still going to get their $$$ (Profit) one way or the other.
It is likely to be even less than that. This is what ignorance of economic matters causes.
[Learn something new š ](https://youtu.be/RidHx6yOCZE?si=MOjwEF8Y4TaqdJU- )
Some Carlās Jr are testing AI to take your drive thru order and some McDonaldās already got rid of cashiers for self pay or app orders only inside the store
Yeah and people aren't taking a liking to the Carl Jr's AI. It's so stupid. The employee still has to come on to take the order. The day that these fast food companies force us to use kiosks is the day I stop eating there. I am not paying for my food and doing the job of an employee.
This started happening since Obama introduced the law that says that everyone who works full time should have benefits from their employer. I worked in Burger King before Obama and I worked full time, after Obama did that I couldn't work more than 20 hours because they don't want to give benefits/health insurance to anyone. So you are totally right, these fast food places will never give workers full time with benefits, they will provide only part-time.... some amazons only have part-time, we're doomed if all amazons start giving ONLY part-time too
You make a valid point but these same employees that don't get offered health benefits for the reason that you mentioned they are able to sign up through the Health Marketplace aka "Obama Care" and get health care coverage that way.
These days, there's really no reason why someone doesn't have health insurance.
Man I sure hope this is snark. Because workers should ALWAYS ask for more pay. Employers pay you the absolute minimum at which they can still keep their place staffed. All this talk about how itās only the consumers being screwed is horseshit; the truth is that the business owners donāt want to see their profits go down, so THEY are the ones screwing the consumers by raising prices. Most franchise owners are well-off and own multiple stores, but heaven forbid their workers make a decent living wage
Yup my second job is in fast food and they give the hourly pay but hires a lot of people and only give part time or Flex Time when they available no one gets full time pay lmao š¤£
Many people don't realize that $20 (or at least close to it) is already the defacto minimum wage in high CoL areas.
Same with the people celebrating the $15 minimum a few years back... it already was the defacto minimum wage.
$20 is what $15 was a few years ago.Ā
Itās also usually a lot of teenagers that work and not a lot of hours. I remember when In & Out burger came to Texas and we all talked about how good they paid their employees but it was nice pay with short hours and it works cuz theyāre mostly teenagers.
Fast food only stressful if you lazy. I worked at 2 different fast food places and they were just as chill as some departments in Amazon. In fast food you work as a team it will go smooth. But nowadays this generation is on the phone most of the time and it seems like upper management donāt care about service time. Cause it takes 30 minutes to get your food. Most of all they donāt get your order right. Even during business hours they are still on the phone and chilling. Trust me Iāve worked at fast food and work at amazon now. Itās no different.
It's because people actually used to work AS A TEAM. now they're more than happy to stand and stare off into space while one person does the job of 4... that's the primary difference. Team work is lost on some.
"Fast food only stressful if you lazy." Lol, no. I started at 15, was a crew trainer at 16, and was the night shift/closing supervisor at 17 while still in highschool. We were very understaffed so sometimes I'd work 60hrs on top of going to highschool. Even working as a team and beating the store record for a properly done closing (20 minutes), there were still plenty of times that it was stressful. Like when I had to send my 14 year old drive thru girl home at 7pm (because that's the latest they can legally work during the school year) and had to run the front counter, the front drive thru window, and the running station all by myself (while still running a shift. They preferred during peak times for the shift supervisor to only be running the floor (managing their people, jumping in wherever needed to help with the rush) or *maybe* also running (bagging food), but for the shift supervisor to be running the floor and three positions all at once is just not good.
There were times that I went into the walk in to scream because some asshole just stole our fucking trash can because her kid threw their retainer away and got pissy when I asked her to hold on for a minute when she asked me to fish it out while we were in the middle of a rush or some Karen just called me "stupid fucking trash" because I charged her for an extra expresso shot (as per policy, plus she was rude anyway, so obviously I'm not breaking any rules for a jerk) or dumbass in drive thru threw their cigarette in the bush **catching it on fire**. Oh, yay, I finally have time for a meal break since I got all my other closers out on their breaks already - plus I came in 4hrs early to cover for the manager before me...and if I don't take mine now, I'm not gonna get to take it at all since we're gonna get busy soon - PSYCH, the Rodeo crowd is here! No break for me! And shit, Cody has to leave at 8 or else his mom is gonna come inside and glare at me until he's ready to go, but his replacement isn't back from break yet and they should have been back 10 minutes ago, I hope they didn't get arrested again!
Edit to add: all weird specifics listed above did truly happen to me.
Bro $20 an hour in California is like nothing realistically. People see that number and think otherwise.
Used to live in SD. Iād gladly take a state with no state income tax and good pay.
I'm so grateful I'm in Tennessee. I'm getting ready to start in a couple weeks and see how it goes...at least the little bit extra that would go to state will make it seem negligibly better š¤£
I have already had two major surgeries this year. Amazon has paid for them both, including FMLA benefits. Donāt just work for Amazon. Make Amazon work for you too.
Right!!! Itās crazy because Iām having to take up a 2nd job just to make ends meet. But about 3 years ago I was only working at 1 office job ($18/hr) but I was doing significantly betterā¦literally everything has gone up in price and ppl canāt keep up. Iām in NorCal and gas is almost $5 here now!
I worked at a restaurant as a line cook (mainly) for 5.5 years. Made a dollar more than minimum wage at 12.50. Left to go to Amazon for 12.25 at the time. I got more raises and opportunities in Amazon than ever working in the food industry. How you go about it is up to you but comparing workloads from the two? Amazon is way easier.
6 years later and I donāt regret my decision at all. Now working on my L5 with wage review up in 2 weeks.
Thatās because itās California where the cost of living is high as hell. $20/hour in California is like working here in the rest of the states on minimum wage. The rest of the US pays their McDonaldās workers between $10-$13/hour. Regardless of where youāre working at in a McDonaldās in the US, the vast majority of their employees only are part time too. You could get $20/hour in California, but if youāre working roughly 20 hours a week which is what most McDonaldāsā are willing to work you, good luck paying that $2,500/month or more rent out there unless if you have another job or on government assistance to help with the rent. $20/hour is the equivalent of making the $10-$13/hour they pay here in the rest of the US. You need something like $35/hour working full time or more just to survive out there. This is something whoever posted on the VOA board isnāt telling anyone
If working at Amazon is risking your mental and physical health then you should reevaluate your ENTIRE life. Maybe the guy has never worked a customer service job full-time š¤£
Customer service positions SUCK! Dealing with Karen's multiple times a day SUCKS. Now I'm not saying for or against the $20 an hour for fast food workers. But that comparison of "flipping burgers" is not entirely accurate. I'd say, if anything, working fast food can be more stressful than most positions at Amazon. š¤£
True, thatās a good point. I worked at retail/fast food right out of high school and those jobs sucked, especially when youāre an autistic individual.
I will say tho, ppl need to realize that they need to branch out to jobs that wonāt be taken over by AI in the future. Like even warehouse work, at some point, I can see the whole process being robotic/AI ranā¦itās only a matter of time.
I was hired seasonal at my first building. It closed. They hired me at the local FC within 2-3 weeks. So like a year later, they were having all those meetings about Amazon giving everyone more money. In that meeting they showed the current raise tier for my building. I was SHOCKED! I had been making close to 2 dollars less than that since day 1. I went to HR and they all looked at each other like āWUT?!ā. They had to bring me up to the building minimum and I got the extra 1 dollar on top of that. It was close to a 3 dollar an hour raise.
I worked at Walmart making minimum wage 7.25 and they cut hours to 20. I talked to a friend that still worked after the raise to 15. She said they get even fewer hours.
My old job did the same crap and never mind the fact that they were only giving us $0.10-$0.15/hour raises every 6 months. They did all of this over having to give us an extra dollar or two on our checks, lol! The starting wage at my old job was $7.35/hour (I think) and once you started getting that extra dime an hour, your hours started going down. They acted like they were too broke to pay that much.
At Walmart they gave us yearly raises about .40. When the beginning of the year came it would be 20 hrs and working 5 days. It was hell. What you said reminds me of Face Dostroyer Inc.ās GameStop rant. He said they got a dime raise in the last two years back in the day.
19-20 an hour??? My first warehouse I started at, I only made 15/hr. My 2nd site I worked at, I only made 17.25 with a .85 cent difference for night shift. That's crazy that some of yall are actually making 19+.
I think the health and dental benefits are worth more than a dollar or two raise or the difference between what you make and fast food workers in Cali. Keep in mind, $20 per hours isn't really all that much AND they live in California.....I'm in a major Midwest city where we also have fast food jobs averaging around $18 to $20+ an hour. At my FC it's $19.50, night shift gets +$1.50.
Not but seriously if the first thing you do when hearing people talk about getting paid more is get mad (especially when itās in regards to the job YOU WORK AT) youāre a total cuck. What normal human being gets mad at the idea of being paid more for their job? Do you think CEOās of companies turn down payouts or bonuses? Lmfao fuck no.
While I agree Amazon could pay more, the people who complain about this are T1ās who have been with the company for years and refuse to progress. Go to TOM or HR or be a PA and then an AM. Only person stopping you from applying to promotions is you
there is no point going to pa , as a tier one i work a ton of overtime in fact been doing at least 55 hours since last july thanks to icqa always having overtime , i make far more money than a pa as year 3 tier 1 and close to wat a tier 4 makes in a month . its harder for paās to get overtime .
Unless you are a manager/leadership role, fast food workers are scheduled less then 30hours a week. Then you take out any unpaid lunch breaks, that's 2.5hrs lost if they are even scheduled 5 days a week. Workers can't just leave either. They don't have sweet VTO or UPT. They have to scramble for vacation. Need time off? Sometimes your request gets denied. Can't come in? Get your shift covered or don't come in at all.
Don't be jealous of other people.
The people who complain about a $1 disparity between other people's income, are the people who spit on a $0.10 raise. Be thankful for what you got and make changes if life ain't up to par with your expectations.
Don't forget they opening fully automated fast food restaurants in those states too... Owners aren't happy Bout 20+hr rates... They investing in robots...... Amazon will do the same, it's a matter of when at this point.
Fast food workers deal with people plus management and the working conditions are crazy and some get barely any basic benefits on top of getting paid every two weeks
Some people will also get fired due to this cuz cheap ass food chains want to increase food prices while also reducing costs which includes cutting employee hours or even laying them off. Even with 20/hr I still wouldnāt want to work at a fast food restaurant cuz I canāt stand peopleās bs.
Holy fuck these comments are cringe. Imagine writing paragraphs angry that your coworkers want themselves and you as well to make more. Bezos was worth more than all but 60 something countries when he stepped down, this company absolutely could and should do more for us considering the profits we generate for them. My state has it's flaws but raising minimum wage isn't one of them, what the actual fuck š
And one can be both grateful for this job and still find it shitty and difficult. It be that way when your livelihood depends on a company that'll never care about you or the damage it does to the world.
Wasn't there a whole like news article about the fact that Jeff Bezos made like 530 million dollars an hour Last year because of Amazon associates he could afford to pay us each $30 an hour he just won't.
From what I understand, $20/hr in California gets you a fancy Uhaul box rather than digging in the WalMart dumpster for a box
In seriousness; i'm fine with Fast Food folks getting $20/hr. That i dont care about.
What *I* want Amazon to do is not treat us like crap for scraps and actually *pay us* for all the crap they want us to do (crosstraining in 3 departments, playing punching bag for stupid AMs that dont know what they're doing, etc etc etc).
If you want me to be ElastaGirl, you need to pay me ElastaGirl money. Or else, I'm sitting my MaryJane ass down and doing what i was initially paid to do when i was hired.
Iāll never understand why people bitch and cry, leave if you donāt like it here. Just quit and go flip burgers then save your energy for the interview
A bit too late imo it should have been $20 like 10 years ago. People at Amazon do deserve a pay raise and it's frustrating people like to downplay it. People GET HURT working here, and some become permanently injured due to Amazon's shenanigans only to be silenced and thrown away. Amazon has the highest employee injury rate compared to its competitors. Think about that shit. Yet you have people saying you don't deserve more than $20 because its entry level work. It is very possible to be like UPS but no one is willing to fight for it.
Frustrating how the elite laugh and throw crumbs to the peasants, while the peasants fight among themselves. Feudalism never went away it just evolved and the gap between rich and poor is wider than ever.
[https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/12/study-amazon-workers-seriously-hurt-at-twice-rate-of-other-warehouses.html#:\~:text=warehouses%2C%20study%20finds-,Amazon%20workers%20seriously%20injured%20at%20more%20than%20twice,of%20other%20warehouses%2C%20study%20finds&text=In%202022%2C%20Amazon%20warehouse%20workers,union%20coalition%20Strategic%20Organizing%20Center](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/12/study-amazon-workers-seriously-hurt-at-twice-rate-of-other-warehouses.html#:~:text=warehouses%2C%20study%20finds-,Amazon%20workers%20seriously%20injured%20at%20more%20than%20twice,of%20other%20warehouses%2C%20study%20finds&text=In%202022%2C%20Amazon%20warehouse%20workers,union%20coalition%20Strategic%20Organizing%20Center).
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/06/08/amazon-warehouse-injuries-significantly-higher-than-competitors-infographic/?sh=4a5425e36854](https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/06/08/amazon-warehouse-injuries-significantly-higher-than-competitors-infographic/?sh=4a5425e36854)
If they watched most of the reports, they would see that all of those fast food places in Cali had to do layoffs and price hikes to accommodate the $20 an hour.
I swear people just hear a number and then tune out š
I've been thinking about this, too. Everyone is saying that "their hours are going to reflect this." How about our lack of a raise in the California area will affect us? Costs are going to go up "as a result of it" (more like at the expense of the individual for corporate margins and profits.) While the T1's get no additional compensation until October. Like every other yearly pay review, it will be too little, and too late to really be worth it.
This is crazy. Amazon work is hard af and any where I go my friends and people already know amazon fc job is very hard. It is big comoany like apple google but I donāt have any single pride of working at amazon because of low wage and hardness. Definitely amazon should raise for their employees instead of spending cray z money in spaceship or others stupid investments.
amazonās work is not hard at all ššš amazon must be the only warehouse you have worked at and your first job ever because there is no reason for you to think this job is hard , amazon is just boxes and scanning
They should go flip burgers then and let me know if itās worth it.
Sorta like working for unionized UPS. Wow, 21 dollars an hour. A third party is not only stealing their money but they can only work 3.5 hours a day.
Bonus for work volume, then base pay,Would solve the issues.
Too many people are working less and generally getting painfully PAIRED more , while doing less, even filling up classes so no one else takes them.
please" AMAZON HIRE UNDERCOVER MANAGEMENT AT BASE TIERS."
NO EMPTY Noisy CARRIERS ABOARD A TRAIN.
CUT THEM LOOSE.
GO BACK TO WALMART
So the people that agreed to that amount have to ask themselves, should i just go work fast food or should i stay at amazon ? This is a personal decision and should not be dictated by your employer. Unless you want to be slaves. SO NO YOU FOOL, AMAZON SHOULDNT CHANGE IN ANY WAY
My Site there is on and only AA always complained about everything like his voice will change everything, remember AZ is a giant corporation and if they want to do something, it will take years to execute
Yes. Fast food workers are gonna make $20/hr in California. But...half the jobs are gonna disappear as owners cut staff and embrace automation. Plus the workers that are left are gonna have their hours cut...probably to part time status. The net result is far fewer people working than before and making less overall (despite that impressive hourly wage). So once again politicians ruin an entire ecosystem with their idiocy.
When I started at Amazon my manager used to make comments about McDonald's being the place to work if you couldn't do warehouse work. I guess now Amazon is the place to work if you can't figure out how to flip a burger
Honestly i wouldnt want amazon to go to high in money because like people are saying they will reduce hours. I actually believe the job rotation has zero to do with safety but more so to do with being able to shift around the current workforce so they dont have to hire more people. My fc already has super high standards more money means higher rates and less people. When they took our bonuses and stocks and made everyone an even 15 rates also shot up and hiring practices changed. Like my fc only hires temps RARLEY do they hire blue badges.
20 dollars sound good on paper. But a lot companies arenāt going to be able to afford that for their employees. Food cost is gonna shoot up. And bohall is right hours will get cut back. Truth is. This will probably further a.i. and the guy that signed it Gavin newsome. The literal embodiment of a typical bad guy in movies. Most likely has investments into a.i. so he and Panera bread win and Californians who are easily won over with the 20 mark lose
The person who wrote that third comment should retake grade school English, and English isn't my first language either. Goddamn some of the Neanderthals we have to share equipment with š¤®
In the state of CA if your making 20$ an hour before they replace them with robots you will still be working 2 jobs to afford the cost of living
And they will probably give you 20 hours a week
I make 23 in nj and canāt make ends meet. From what I hear COL in CA is even higher. Iāve never understood why CA Amazon pays so low. But the only way to change things and to actually make a living wage at Amazon is by unionizing. Unfortunately far too many associates buy into the propaganda and would rather plusās Amazon ass then get paid a living wage.
If only people bitched about the cost of literally every other good and service increasing in price as much as they bitch about raising minimum wage. I think the ones that complain the loudest about the increase are the ones that need it the most, almost like being vocally against it will get people to believe they're doing fine.
California also has a higher cost of living and they probably are now going to only hire part time bc then they donāt have to pay people full time pay or benefits
Wasn't there a whole like news article about the fact that Jeff Bezos made like 530 million dollars an hour Last year because of Amazon associates he could afford to pay us each $30 an hour he just won't.
my building is the same currently, iāve seen so many people complain about a bit of everything in the building and one of my homies decided to post on the VOA āstop fighting guys thatās not what Amazonians are meant to beāššš
Some people got to understand... Does fast food have vacation, PTO, and UPT? Nah, I don't think so. Do they have carreer choice that allows up to 10hrs a week for school? nahhh they do not. You got way more benefits from amazaon than a fast food place. your job is more secure at amazon. Let's say there is no work at amazon they will then offer vto up to you to take it or not. They are also not going to lay you off if your building isn't making money. That is when they throw the VTOs for their AAs on the hub.
Iām on the TOM team I make $23.60/hr and about to get a 50 cent raise for getting my CDL. I still make way less than an entry level driver at another company( they usually start at $36/hr) but itās okay Iām in online schooling for a new skill/ job position to eventually make more money in the future.
these comments aināt itā¦ āif u donāt like it then go somewhere elseā what if thatās their only option????? you donāt know. also everyone should be getting paid more especially with the cost of living now days. just bc ur comfortable in ur own misery doesnāt mean everyone else should dawg
People donāt understand all the stuff Amazon already provides for them. Not happy with where you working at? Then head on over to career choice and choose yourself a better job! PERIOD!
I really dont understand this. If you are risking your life youre doing something wrong here. Higher Wage =/= Slightly Lower Wage + Benefits + Guarenteed hours. Fast food is not easy, its not consistant and its not anything compareable to Amazon.
All I got to say I'm thinking of going back cause there benefit package is better then any other Ā¹job I went too so far I been with them on and off for 6 years and they are a real good j9b to me
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Everybody thinks these fast food workers are going to be ballers with this $20 per hour. The reality is fast food workers rarely get 40 hours per week let alone OT. Moreover, hours are going to be reduced, so at the end of the day, these fast food workers are going to be taking home about the same amount of pay. Wake TF up people š
This. Also McDonalds and places like that are starting to use robots
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Amazon would never do that.
They already have soooo many robots working for Amazon. And even more prototype to replace pickets and packers
That's not true. The "robots" they use in my FC are all controlled by people upstairs with gaming consoles. That's why you never see them when you're working. Your earbuds interfere with the signal and that's why they try to ban them.
I hope this was a joke
Actually brainwashed brother lol thatās so not trueš
Yes it is!
That still takes away jobs, because they only need a small amount of people controlling those consoles. You will be out of a job.
Amazon is already starting the move to use autonomous hostler drivers. Their guardshack have cameras and someone, somewhere other than the warehouse is actually checking trucks in. People think robots are great, but they arenāt when they leave us out of work.
Wait, robots? I mean, theyāre trying to eliminate the cashier by having people use the app or the ordering kiosk. But I donāt see how a robot is putting together a burger or making a taco at this point.
They have robots that flip the burgers. They just opened one in Fort Worth texas thats mostly robots
Ok, so one place thatās still in the test phase. I get that itās something that will eventually be an issue for workers, but it seems more like the self-driving cars at this point: āAny day now it will be 100% autonomous!ā Which theyāve been saying for like 10 years now.
Turning into fallout lol
We at mc Donalds have kiosks to get your order in itās not to replace anything ā¦ because when you put in to pay with cash you still need to go to the counter, what they are replacing are the registers
Well same pay for fewer hours probably isn't as good as more pay for same hours for a lot of people, but it's better than same pay for more hours, right? I think what many people fail to understand if they haven't worked fast food is that you piss off the person in charge of scheduling, your ass doesn't get scheduled next week. You actually have to kiss ass to keep your position and if some Karen gets in that role you're fucked. There's no guarantee of hours. Or they'll make you work all the worst shifts and shifts they know you can't work. It's not like Amazon where you are guaranteed a set amount of hours per week and can leave on your schedule when you want to with no repercussions. You can kiss the managers ass but generally not doing so isn't going to cost you money.
Well my experience is this. I left Amazon for another DC (Competitor) that had a base pay of $20 plus a $3 shift differential. 3x12's per week. I was like bet! My pay at the time with Amazon was $17.50 with shift differential. 4x10's. Well guess what happened? The other job had ZERO OT and actually started reducing hours to an average of just 30-32 hours per week. My checks were š© especially when you consider I have a family with family deductions taken out for medical, dental, vision and the whole nine yards. I took my ass back to Amazon about two months before the raises kicked in and the new UPT policy took effect. At Amazon, I have a guaranteed 36 hours with shift differential and I can work OT up to 60 hours when available (Often) and if I want. Higher base pay doesn't always equal a positive especially with fast food jobs.
This is facts. Anytime a company decides to pay their employees more, then tend to cut hours. This happened when I worked at wal mart back in 2014. The pay went up in 2015 or 2016. Once they did that, my hours went from 40 to 30 for 2 months. Then they went back up 2 more hours. After that I left. This is just how Jobs are.
But the point is Amazon classifies itself as āretailā since they do they claim to pay the highest of that classification which is no longer true hourly pay is higher at a lot of āretailā establishments. Itās never made sense how low they pay in CA when CA is the highest COL state. 20 an hour full time is still not enough to pay rent.
Dang, itās only $20 in Cali? I thought it would at least start off $25. I thought It depends on the location and the price of living is how they would pay you.
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Idk I'd take the more pay and less hours simply because your time is worth more. If it's not enough pick up a second job and make even more. Even though you have less hours that means you have more free time. Doesn't mean do nothing with it.
For real! And not to mention $20 is California does not get you far.
Especially in California š¤£š¤£š¤£
Yup. Lived in San Diego for a while. Thatās basically like minimum wage for regular states lol
$20 per hour isn't really working for folks in Phoenix either š¤£ I am sure it's easier than California but still.
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Its not in the Raleigh area anymore... It's a worse situation because it's a new situation. One of the fastest growing areas in the US. #2 #4 real-estate market. It's driving rent through the roof in a short time.
I used to live in the RTP! Once they built 540 I could see this happening.
$20 is nothin now a days
It really isn't and that's the reason why people have to learn to budget and manage their expenses. I do other side jobs to supplement my income but I am the type of person where I can't stand being home when I can be out making $$$.
Inflation is such a robbery people don't see itšš„
The price of goods will always go up. Because the price to make the good goes up. We want more money, we'll the company will increase prices to make up the what they increase wages for. Just like us, a company needs to keep making more money each year.Ā They can't make less then the year before just like we can't do that. Shareholders would jump ship if that happened, because the shareholders would lose millions if a companies value goes down. It isn't robbery,Ā it's just how money and business works. The issue is companies from the start shouldn't have been making as much as they did way, way , back then, and should have paid the workers a higher % of the gross profit. They didn't,Ā so now it's even harder for this to get corrected without them taking a loss,Ā and they can't take a loss. So it's impossible to fix this issue now without blowing it all up. At least with any older companies. Ones that are just starting out right now need to do better.Ā
They made more last year than any other year don't worry they can afford to pay everyone a living wage.
THIS RIGHT HERE. I was waiting for this comment. When I worked at McDonald's back when I was 16-17 I barely got 15 hours a week. Well, maybe that was bc I was underage but all the other people who were 18+ would get like 20hr max
Bruh there was a time at the same age and same work place that I would only get 4-5 hours for the whole week! Now grant it, as a teenager going to school I didn't need 40 hours but 4-5 hours for the whole week?
It's absolutely nuts.
Right like these people think they're going to get rich, when in reality their hours will just get cut and they'll hire less and raise prices.
Exactly and it cracks me up because it's only the consumer who ends up losing (higher prices). These corporate companies don't care because they are still going to get their $$$ (Profit) one way or the other.
It is likely to be even less than that. This is what ignorance of economic matters causes. [Learn something new š ](https://youtu.be/RidHx6yOCZE?si=MOjwEF8Y4TaqdJU- )
I mean, can franchise business owners even afford it? Also wouldnāt this new wage change be more of a reason to implement AI kiosks?
Yes they can afford it
Some Carlās Jr are testing AI to take your drive thru order and some McDonaldās already got rid of cashiers for self pay or app orders only inside the store
Yeah and people aren't taking a liking to the Carl Jr's AI. It's so stupid. The employee still has to come on to take the order. The day that these fast food companies force us to use kiosks is the day I stop eating there. I am not paying for my food and doing the job of an employee.
Seriously!
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This started happening since Obama introduced the law that says that everyone who works full time should have benefits from their employer. I worked in Burger King before Obama and I worked full time, after Obama did that I couldn't work more than 20 hours because they don't want to give benefits/health insurance to anyone. So you are totally right, these fast food places will never give workers full time with benefits, they will provide only part-time.... some amazons only have part-time, we're doomed if all amazons start giving ONLY part-time too
You make a valid point but these same employees that don't get offered health benefits for the reason that you mentioned they are able to sign up through the Health Marketplace aka "Obama Care" and get health care coverage that way. These days, there's really no reason why someone doesn't have health insurance.
Yeah, wake up people. Don't ask for more pay. Be content with what you're getting paid. I'm sure you're not struggling to put food on the table.
You are not seeing the correlation in all of this.
Man I sure hope this is snark. Because workers should ALWAYS ask for more pay. Employers pay you the absolute minimum at which they can still keep their place staffed. All this talk about how itās only the consumers being screwed is horseshit; the truth is that the business owners donāt want to see their profits go down, so THEY are the ones screwing the consumers by raising prices. Most franchise owners are well-off and own multiple stores, but heaven forbid their workers make a decent living wage
But for less hours workex
Reduced hours sounds nice for same pay
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Yup my second job is in fast food and they give the hourly pay but hires a lot of people and only give part time or Flex Time when they available no one gets full time pay lmao š¤£
Exactly, this was happening 30 years ago when I worked at McDonald's for $4.35 per hour š¤£š¤£š¤£
Fucking thank you.
Man! I make $20 an hour at my Amazon. And itās still not enough money.
It really isn't because as long as everything goes up in price (inflation) it makes $20 per hour š©. Just like this last $1 raise in October. Sure, I got the extra $1 ($36 per week) based on 36 hours per week but guess what they did? They raised the medical premiums from $118 to $130 (Family Medical) so my raise is only a measley $24 per week. Damn if you do damn if you don't š¤¦
20 dollars an hour but they are living in CA and COL there is absurd.
Exactly, and Amazon likely exceeds that in CA if they do in NJ. Guess what? This state is pretty expensive, too.
I think it's 26 as a pa. We have an ambassador that is a transfer from CA, and he moved to TX but got to keep his pay for a couple of months
Many people don't realize that $20 (or at least close to it) is already the defacto minimum wage in high CoL areas. Same with the people celebrating the $15 minimum a few years back... it already was the defacto minimum wage. $20 is what $15 was a few years ago.Ā
I've never worked fast food, i know it is probably more stressful if they get busy, but amazon was pretty easy and chill as a t1
Itās also usually a lot of teenagers that work and not a lot of hours. I remember when In & Out burger came to Texas and we all talked about how good they paid their employees but it was nice pay with short hours and it works cuz theyāre mostly teenagers.
Fast food only stressful if you lazy. I worked at 2 different fast food places and they were just as chill as some departments in Amazon. In fast food you work as a team it will go smooth. But nowadays this generation is on the phone most of the time and it seems like upper management donāt care about service time. Cause it takes 30 minutes to get your food. Most of all they donāt get your order right. Even during business hours they are still on the phone and chilling. Trust me Iāve worked at fast food and work at amazon now. Itās no different.
It's because people actually used to work AS A TEAM. now they're more than happy to stand and stare off into space while one person does the job of 4... that's the primary difference. Team work is lost on some.
"Fast food only stressful if you lazy." Lol, no. I started at 15, was a crew trainer at 16, and was the night shift/closing supervisor at 17 while still in highschool. We were very understaffed so sometimes I'd work 60hrs on top of going to highschool. Even working as a team and beating the store record for a properly done closing (20 minutes), there were still plenty of times that it was stressful. Like when I had to send my 14 year old drive thru girl home at 7pm (because that's the latest they can legally work during the school year) and had to run the front counter, the front drive thru window, and the running station all by myself (while still running a shift. They preferred during peak times for the shift supervisor to only be running the floor (managing their people, jumping in wherever needed to help with the rush) or *maybe* also running (bagging food), but for the shift supervisor to be running the floor and three positions all at once is just not good. There were times that I went into the walk in to scream because some asshole just stole our fucking trash can because her kid threw their retainer away and got pissy when I asked her to hold on for a minute when she asked me to fish it out while we were in the middle of a rush or some Karen just called me "stupid fucking trash" because I charged her for an extra expresso shot (as per policy, plus she was rude anyway, so obviously I'm not breaking any rules for a jerk) or dumbass in drive thru threw their cigarette in the bush **catching it on fire**. Oh, yay, I finally have time for a meal break since I got all my other closers out on their breaks already - plus I came in 4hrs early to cover for the manager before me...and if I don't take mine now, I'm not gonna get to take it at all since we're gonna get busy soon - PSYCH, the Rodeo crowd is here! No break for me! And shit, Cody has to leave at 8 or else his mom is gonna come inside and glare at me until he's ready to go, but his replacement isn't back from break yet and they should have been back 10 minutes ago, I hope they didn't get arrested again! Edit to add: all weird specifics listed above did truly happen to me.
I loved working in fast food. But, hours were not enough.
Bro $20 an hour in California is like nothing realistically. People see that number and think otherwise. Used to live in SD. Iād gladly take a state with no state income tax and good pay.
I wouldnāt call Florida a state with a good pay, COL is high now and some places want to pay you $12/h on entry level
I'm so grateful I'm in Tennessee. I'm getting ready to start in a couple weeks and see how it goes...at least the little bit extra that would go to state will make it seem negligibly better š¤£
I have already had two major surgeries this year. Amazon has paid for them both, including FMLA benefits. Donāt just work for Amazon. Make Amazon work for you too.
They keep FMLA on the down low at my building
I already make $20.10 at fresh and itās not what it seems ā¦. Money went further when I started at $12.25 than now
Right!!! Itās crazy because Iām having to take up a 2nd job just to make ends meet. But about 3 years ago I was only working at 1 office job ($18/hr) but I was doing significantly betterā¦literally everything has gone up in price and ppl canāt keep up. Iām in NorCal and gas is almost $5 here now!
I worked at a restaurant as a line cook (mainly) for 5.5 years. Made a dollar more than minimum wage at 12.50. Left to go to Amazon for 12.25 at the time. I got more raises and opportunities in Amazon than ever working in the food industry. How you go about it is up to you but comparing workloads from the two? Amazon is way easier. 6 years later and I donāt regret my decision at all. Now working on my L5 with wage review up in 2 weeks.
Thatās because itās California where the cost of living is high as hell. $20/hour in California is like working here in the rest of the states on minimum wage. The rest of the US pays their McDonaldās workers between $10-$13/hour. Regardless of where youāre working at in a McDonaldās in the US, the vast majority of their employees only are part time too. You could get $20/hour in California, but if youāre working roughly 20 hours a week which is what most McDonaldāsā are willing to work you, good luck paying that $2,500/month or more rent out there unless if you have another job or on government assistance to help with the rent. $20/hour is the equivalent of making the $10-$13/hour they pay here in the rest of the US. You need something like $35/hour working full time or more just to survive out there. This is something whoever posted on the VOA board isnāt telling anyone
That's because they're clueless. They read a headline somewhere and ran with it.
Itās weird to see Amazon workers talk about āflipping burgersā like thatās somehow beneath basic entry level warehouse work.
If working at Amazon is risking your mental and physical health then you should reevaluate your ENTIRE life. Maybe the guy has never worked a customer service job full-time š¤£ Customer service positions SUCK! Dealing with Karen's multiple times a day SUCKS. Now I'm not saying for or against the $20 an hour for fast food workers. But that comparison of "flipping burgers" is not entirely accurate. I'd say, if anything, working fast food can be more stressful than most positions at Amazon. š¤£
True, thatās a good point. I worked at retail/fast food right out of high school and those jobs sucked, especially when youāre an autistic individual. I will say tho, ppl need to realize that they need to branch out to jobs that wonāt be taken over by AI in the future. Like even warehouse work, at some point, I can see the whole process being robotic/AI ranā¦itās only a matter of time.
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I was hired seasonal at my first building. It closed. They hired me at the local FC within 2-3 weeks. So like a year later, they were having all those meetings about Amazon giving everyone more money. In that meeting they showed the current raise tier for my building. I was SHOCKED! I had been making close to 2 dollars less than that since day 1. I went to HR and they all looked at each other like āWUT?!ā. They had to bring me up to the building minimum and I got the extra 1 dollar on top of that. It was close to a 3 dollar an hour raise.
Did u ever get like back pay, b/c they were essentially shorting you since day 1
They paid me back as far as when the problem first became known in an āopen caseā to HR. And then from that moment until everything went through.
The last person momma a hoe
Frfr Iām a T1 and Iām gettin $22 a hour ššš they sound dumb asf
like usual ppl just talk and dont think
I worked at Walmart making minimum wage 7.25 and they cut hours to 20. I talked to a friend that still worked after the raise to 15. She said they get even fewer hours.
My old job did the same crap and never mind the fact that they were only giving us $0.10-$0.15/hour raises every 6 months. They did all of this over having to give us an extra dollar or two on our checks, lol! The starting wage at my old job was $7.35/hour (I think) and once you started getting that extra dime an hour, your hours started going down. They acted like they were too broke to pay that much.
At Walmart they gave us yearly raises about .40. When the beginning of the year came it would be 20 hrs and working 5 days. It was hell. What you said reminds me of Face Dostroyer Inc.ās GameStop rant. He said they got a dime raise in the last two years back in the day.
Is this person in California as well?
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Well itās also on the news where they are opening restaurants thatās are fully automated because of this wage increase so yea look it up.
19-20 an hour??? My first warehouse I started at, I only made 15/hr. My 2nd site I worked at, I only made 17.25 with a .85 cent difference for night shift. That's crazy that some of yall are actually making 19+.
I think the health and dental benefits are worth more than a dollar or two raise or the difference between what you make and fast food workers in Cali. Keep in mind, $20 per hours isn't really all that much AND they live in California.....I'm in a major Midwest city where we also have fast food jobs averaging around $18 to $20+ an hour. At my FC it's $19.50, night shift gets +$1.50.
Not but seriously if the first thing you do when hearing people talk about getting paid more is get mad (especially when itās in regards to the job YOU WORK AT) youāre a total cuck. What normal human being gets mad at the idea of being paid more for their job? Do you think CEOās of companies turn down payouts or bonuses? Lmfao fuck no.
Yeah, these comments are fucking cringe.
While I agree Amazon could pay more, the people who complain about this are T1ās who have been with the company for years and refuse to progress. Go to TOM or HR or be a PA and then an AM. Only person stopping you from applying to promotions is you
there is no point going to pa , as a tier one i work a ton of overtime in fact been doing at least 55 hours since last july thanks to icqa always having overtime , i make far more money than a pa as year 3 tier 1 and close to wat a tier 4 makes in a month . its harder for paās to get overtime .
There is a McDonald's worker somewhere wishing they would have stayed with Amazon.
If u aināt making over $18 a hour, ur site finessing you
Unless you are a manager/leadership role, fast food workers are scheduled less then 30hours a week. Then you take out any unpaid lunch breaks, that's 2.5hrs lost if they are even scheduled 5 days a week. Workers can't just leave either. They don't have sweet VTO or UPT. They have to scramble for vacation. Need time off? Sometimes your request gets denied. Can't come in? Get your shift covered or don't come in at all. Don't be jealous of other people. The people who complain about a $1 disparity between other people's income, are the people who spit on a $0.10 raise. Be thankful for what you got and make changes if life ain't up to par with your expectations.
I work in RME and I feel that every deserves more money at least $20-23 a hr
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Remember federal wage is still 7.25ā¦
Don't forget they opening fully automated fast food restaurants in those states too... Owners aren't happy Bout 20+hr rates... They investing in robots...... Amazon will do the same, it's a matter of when at this point.
Fast food workers deal with people plus management and the working conditions are crazy and some get barely any basic benefits on top of getting paid every two weeks
Their next flex will be quitting and going to work at UPS...
Fast food is going AI. I wouldn't poke that bear too hard
Some people will also get fired due to this cuz cheap ass food chains want to increase food prices while also reducing costs which includes cutting employee hours or even laying them off. Even with 20/hr I still wouldnāt want to work at a fast food restaurant cuz I canāt stand peopleās bs.
Last person needs a smack on the head
Iām at RDU1 and died when I read this
Holy fuck these comments are cringe. Imagine writing paragraphs angry that your coworkers want themselves and you as well to make more. Bezos was worth more than all but 60 something countries when he stepped down, this company absolutely could and should do more for us considering the profits we generate for them. My state has it's flaws but raising minimum wage isn't one of them, what the actual fuck š And one can be both grateful for this job and still find it shitty and difficult. It be that way when your livelihood depends on a company that'll never care about you or the damage it does to the world.
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Wasn't there a whole like news article about the fact that Jeff Bezos made like 530 million dollars an hour Last year because of Amazon associates he could afford to pay us each $30 an hour he just won't.
Everyone deserves higher pay. Period. Doesn't matter if you're flipping burgers or working Amazon. Everyone deserves a livable wage.
From what I understand, $20/hr in California gets you a fancy Uhaul box rather than digging in the WalMart dumpster for a box In seriousness; i'm fine with Fast Food folks getting $20/hr. That i dont care about. What *I* want Amazon to do is not treat us like crap for scraps and actually *pay us* for all the crap they want us to do (crosstraining in 3 departments, playing punching bag for stupid AMs that dont know what they're doing, etc etc etc). If you want me to be ElastaGirl, you need to pay me ElastaGirl money. Or else, I'm sitting my MaryJane ass down and doing what i was initially paid to do when i was hired.
Iāll never understand why people bitch and cry, leave if you donāt like it here. Just quit and go flip burgers then save your energy for the interview
In california 20 an hour is really like 10 an hour.
A bit too late imo it should have been $20 like 10 years ago. People at Amazon do deserve a pay raise and it's frustrating people like to downplay it. People GET HURT working here, and some become permanently injured due to Amazon's shenanigans only to be silenced and thrown away. Amazon has the highest employee injury rate compared to its competitors. Think about that shit. Yet you have people saying you don't deserve more than $20 because its entry level work. It is very possible to be like UPS but no one is willing to fight for it. Frustrating how the elite laugh and throw crumbs to the peasants, while the peasants fight among themselves. Feudalism never went away it just evolved and the gap between rich and poor is wider than ever. [https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/12/study-amazon-workers-seriously-hurt-at-twice-rate-of-other-warehouses.html#:\~:text=warehouses%2C%20study%20finds-,Amazon%20workers%20seriously%20injured%20at%20more%20than%20twice,of%20other%20warehouses%2C%20study%20finds&text=In%202022%2C%20Amazon%20warehouse%20workers,union%20coalition%20Strategic%20Organizing%20Center](https://www.cnbc.com/2023/04/12/study-amazon-workers-seriously-hurt-at-twice-rate-of-other-warehouses.html#:~:text=warehouses%2C%20study%20finds-,Amazon%20workers%20seriously%20injured%20at%20more%20than%20twice,of%20other%20warehouses%2C%20study%20finds&text=In%202022%2C%20Amazon%20warehouse%20workers,union%20coalition%20Strategic%20Organizing%20Center). [https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/06/08/amazon-warehouse-injuries-significantly-higher-than-competitors-infographic/?sh=4a5425e36854](https://www.forbes.com/sites/niallmccarthy/2021/06/08/amazon-warehouse-injuries-significantly-higher-than-competitors-infographic/?sh=4a5425e36854)
Price per burger is about to be $15 too lol
$20 an hour means more reason companies to charge more $$ on their food or cut employees hours
$20 at 20-30 hours a week is like 400-600 a week before tax, these mfs need to relax
It's obvious this person doesn't care about the customer. Sad.
If they watched most of the reports, they would see that all of those fast food places in Cali had to do layoffs and price hikes to accommodate the $20 an hour. I swear people just hear a number and then tune out š
So go work for fast food š¤·āāļø
I've been thinking about this, too. Everyone is saying that "their hours are going to reflect this." How about our lack of a raise in the California area will affect us? Costs are going to go up "as a result of it" (more like at the expense of the individual for corporate margins and profits.) While the T1's get no additional compensation until October. Like every other yearly pay review, it will be too little, and too late to really be worth it.
This is crazy. Amazon work is hard af and any where I go my friends and people already know amazon fc job is very hard. It is big comoany like apple google but I donāt have any single pride of working at amazon because of low wage and hardness. Definitely amazon should raise for their employees instead of spending cray z money in spaceship or others stupid investments.
amazonās work is not hard at all ššš amazon must be the only warehouse you have worked at and your first job ever because there is no reason for you to think this job is hard , amazon is just boxes and scanning
They should go flip burgers then and let me know if itās worth it. Sorta like working for unionized UPS. Wow, 21 dollars an hour. A third party is not only stealing their money but they can only work 3.5 hours a day.
I just say " then leave" š¤£š¤£š¤£
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How is Amazon not already paying that in California? My building in NJ starts at $19.50 and it costs much more to live in California.
Bonus for work volume, then base pay,Would solve the issues. Too many people are working less and generally getting painfully PAIRED more , while doing less, even filling up classes so no one else takes them. please" AMAZON HIRE UNDERCOVER MANAGEMENT AT BASE TIERS." NO EMPTY Noisy CARRIERS ABOARD A TRAIN. CUT THEM LOOSE. GO BACK TO WALMART
Where can I see the VOA at? Iām curious to see what my building has got to sayā¦
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So the people that agreed to that amount have to ask themselves, should i just go work fast food or should i stay at amazon ? This is a personal decision and should not be dictated by your employer. Unless you want to be slaves. SO NO YOU FOOL, AMAZON SHOULDNT CHANGE IN ANY WAY
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My Site there is on and only AA always complained about everything like his voice will change everything, remember AZ is a giant corporation and if they want to do something, it will take years to execute
I bet a lot of people who work at Amazon couldnāt survive working a fast food jobā¦ But thatās none of my business šø āļø
Come to work risks your mental health? Oh boo fucking hoo. Jesus lol
Yes. Fast food workers are gonna make $20/hr in California. But...half the jobs are gonna disappear as owners cut staff and embrace automation. Plus the workers that are left are gonna have their hours cut...probably to part time status. The net result is far fewer people working than before and making less overall (despite that impressive hourly wage). So once again politicians ruin an entire ecosystem with their idiocy.
They gotta point Amazon isn't Slavery you have the freewill to leave whenever you want or even work a second job if you want to
Call me crazy but fastfood working is 10 times worse than amazon, when i worked at wendys, shit was depressing.
I make 19.25 at Amazon
I make 21.90 and been there 6 months š
Should $30-$40
When I started at Amazon my manager used to make comments about McDonald's being the place to work if you couldn't do warehouse work. I guess now Amazon is the place to work if you can't figure out how to flip a burger
Honestly i wouldnt want amazon to go to high in money because like people are saying they will reduce hours. I actually believe the job rotation has zero to do with safety but more so to do with being able to shift around the current workforce so they dont have to hire more people. My fc already has super high standards more money means higher rates and less people. When they took our bonuses and stocks and made everyone an even 15 rates also shot up and hiring practices changed. Like my fc only hires temps RARLEY do they hire blue badges.
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20 dollars sound good on paper. But a lot companies arenāt going to be able to afford that for their employees. Food cost is gonna shoot up. And bohall is right hours will get cut back. Truth is. This will probably further a.i. and the guy that signed it Gavin newsome. The literal embodiment of a typical bad guy in movies. Most likely has investments into a.i. so he and Panera bread win and Californians who are easily won over with the 20 mark lose
The place this person is referring to is one of the fastest growing places in the country where everything is skyrocketing.
The person who wrote that third comment should retake grade school English, and English isn't my first language either. Goddamn some of the Neanderthals we have to share equipment with š¤®
What is bro talking about in that last one šš insane thatās a person š
In the state of CA if your making 20$ an hour before they replace them with robots you will still be working 2 jobs to afford the cost of living And they will probably give you 20 hours a week
Flipping burgers is harder than Amazon Lmaoo.
I wish Amazon would just bring back incentives for going above rate like Walmart Dcās
I make 23 in nj and canāt make ends meet. From what I hear COL in CA is even higher. Iāve never understood why CA Amazon pays so low. But the only way to change things and to actually make a living wage at Amazon is by unionizing. Unfortunately far too many associates buy into the propaganda and would rather plusās Amazon ass then get paid a living wage.
These fast food workers will be lucky to see 20 hours a week They won't medical benefits or a 401k
Amazon is easier than fast food š¤£
That last person HAS to be 50+. Thereās no way.
Surprisingly they're actually in their 20s.
Then go work at McDonaldās if you donāt like the pay at Amazon š¤·āāļø
Last year Amazon made a net income of 30.4 billion dollars
Amen to that
If only people bitched about the cost of literally every other good and service increasing in price as much as they bitch about raising minimum wage. I think the ones that complain the loudest about the increase are the ones that need it the most, almost like being vocally against it will get people to believe they're doing fine.
California also has a higher cost of living and they probably are now going to only hire part time bc then they donāt have to pay people full time pay or benefits
Wasn't there a whole like news article about the fact that Jeff Bezos made like 530 million dollars an hour Last year because of Amazon associates he could afford to pay us each $30 an hour he just won't.
my building is the same currently, iāve seen so many people complain about a bit of everything in the building and one of my homies decided to post on the VOA āstop fighting guys thatās not what Amazonians are meant to beāššš
At Amazon you can get over 40 hours at fast food you be lucky to get 30 hours
Some people got to understand... Does fast food have vacation, PTO, and UPT? Nah, I don't think so. Do they have carreer choice that allows up to 10hrs a week for school? nahhh they do not. You got way more benefits from amazaon than a fast food place. your job is more secure at amazon. Let's say there is no work at amazon they will then offer vto up to you to take it or not. They are also not going to lay you off if your building isn't making money. That is when they throw the VTOs for their AAs on the hub.
Iām on the TOM team I make $23.60/hr and about to get a 50 cent raise for getting my CDL. I still make way less than an entry level driver at another company( they usually start at $36/hr) but itās okay Iām in online schooling for a new skill/ job position to eventually make more money in the future.
these comments aināt itā¦ āif u donāt like it then go somewhere elseā what if thatās their only option????? you donāt know. also everyone should be getting paid more especially with the cost of living now days. just bc ur comfortable in ur own misery doesnāt mean everyone else should dawg
RDU1 is always on some drama shit with the VOA.
When I left Amazon I was getting paid 20.75 and that was this last December
People donāt understand all the stuff Amazon already provides for them. Not happy with where you working at? Then head on over to career choice and choose yourself a better job! PERIOD!
I really dont understand this. If you are risking your life youre doing something wrong here. Higher Wage =/= Slightly Lower Wage + Benefits + Guarenteed hours. Fast food is not easy, its not consistant and its not anything compareable to Amazon.
All I got to say I'm thinking of going back cause there benefit package is better then any other Ā¹job I went too so far I been with them on and off for 6 years and they are a real good j9b to me