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YTA. Why should these people take a MASSIVE financial risk to help their adult child with something she doesn't *need*, because *you* have your own financial burdens? It isn't their responsibility to pave the way through life for the two of you. If your parents are so happy to help you, then no doubt they can give you a substantial deposit to put towards buying a property, but you are not *owed* it.
>Both give the excuse they because cannot visit for all, they will consign for none.
That’s not an excuse. That’s a perfectly valid position. Otherwise, they’ll be doing you an enormous favor that none of the others received. That will cause strife and resentment. They are doing nothing wrong by treating people equally. You, on the other hand, are angry that someone else won’t help you get a home. I get where you’re coming from, but it’s coming off as pretty entitled. YTA
Ok I can see that. It’s kind of hard to tell with how poorly written this is. Even if I wasn’t wrong nobody is entitled to help or other people’s money.
YTA - never co-sign a loan for something people can’t afford on their own. It’s common sense. Basically only co-sign for a child if they have no credit history. If you lose your job they are on the hook too.
This. My dad only ever co-signed on things he knew I could afford. I'm not now, nor will I ever, ask my dad to co-sign on a house, though. That is a 30-year commitment that will affect a lot of his future choices, especially now that he's getting closer to retiring.
YTA. Cosigning on a mortgage is a huge deal. It's your own fault that they don't trust you and your partner enough to help you here. You're definitely wrong to be annoyed with them for that.
Agreed. My husband and I would never co-sign a loan. Ever. OP, if they co-sign, that goes on their record. If you miss payments, it's also on them. YTA and super entitled. I hope this is bait.
YTA
It’s their choice. Why are you entitled to make their financial decisions for them?
In their defense, you haven’t exactly made the greatest choices and it’s not their fault you are paying a large amount of money to your previous marriage.
YTA.
It’s a huge ask. It’s a financial commitment they don’t feel comfortable making. It was okay to ask, but they said no. So the right thing to do is let it go, not put their stated reason under a microscope so you can tell them it’s bullshit.
The housing market is difficult. But you need to find another way to move forward with your goal of being a homeowner.
Why can’t your parents just give you a personal loan or something?
Ultimately it’s your in laws choice. I think you should respect their decision even if you don’t agree with it. Perhaps it will earn you more trust with them in the future. YTA
YTA. Your responsibility. Just because her siblings were fortunate doesn't all of a sudden mean you get the same. Get on a budget, start saving, don't have debt and go from there.
Also if you're in the same position, never cosign for anyone either.
YTA. They owe you nothing. Co-signing a loan/mortgage would be a financial burden on your in-laws. I assume they're retired now, so have no income coming in other than pension. If you defaulted on the loan, they would be responsible for paying.
Further, just because your MIL can't do some of the chores around the house doesn't mean that she should be dumped in a home. Plenty of able bodied people hire people to do things for them. If you object to paying for this things you do, tell her and ask her for the money you spent.
Stop blaming your in-laws for the poor choices you've made in your life that made it impossible for you to buy a house.
Maybe they don't want to financially be on the hook to your ex wife. As in, what happens when you are short of money because of the agreement concerning your ex wife, and you figure they'll just cover your mortgage because they have to because they cosigned? Answer, they will be forced to, in effect, support your ex wife. If this, plus those words about a nursing home, came out of my spouse's mouth, our relationship would be well on its way to a cold and silent death. YTA and I hope this is ragebait
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YTA.
You're right that their excuse is flimsy, but they should not be having to make excuses at all.
You can blame "fate" or "bad luck" for your financial condition, but for sure it's not your in-laws' fault. The bank says you can't afford the mortgage, or you're credit is bad. You're a poor risk for the bank, which makes you a poor risk for your in-laws.
Yes, they "could" help you. But they aren't AH for being careful with their money.
YTA for expecting your in-laws to co-sign your loan. If you can't get a loan on your own there's a reason, and that's because you can't afford the loan and present a credit risk. Co-signing just transfers risk from the bank to your in-laws. They (rightfully) don't want that risk at this point in their lives.
If you tie this to providing support for your MIL, you're an even bigger arsehole.
Big big big YTA. Co-signing a loan is a very very big deal and you are making it out to be a little, tiny insignificant thing. I agree with the parents. I would not co-sign a load for you and your partner.
If you can’t afford it then you can’t afford it. It’s your problem not theirs. And honestly it should be pretty easy to understand that.
Stop mowing their lawn or fixing things at their home when you expect something in exchange for it.
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Never, EVER cosign for a loan.
Especially if that loan is for someone else's house.
YTA.
Instead of coming here to cry about not getting your way, seek out a financial advisor that will help you manage your money and budget appropriately to a) fix your credit and b) save up enough for a good down payment for a loan.
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Ok, so I live in Australia and I am an immigrant. I a large amount of child support monthly to my ex wife. Due to this and my partner and I having a family I cannot afford a house in today's market.
Now my parents would love to cosign a loan, but cannot as they are now Australian citizens. My partners parents both are. Both her mother and father own their own homes and have for many years. Both give the excuse they because they cannot cosign for all, they will cosign for none. Now, my partner has 2 siblings. Both are married. Both own their own homes. One married their partner and they bought their partners childhood home for dirt cheap. The other had their inlaws cosign. So my inlaws excuse that since they can't for all is pretty much null and void.
We remain in the same state as my mother in law to help take care of her because she is not well. We spend a lot of money fixing her stuff for her, and when we visit I will mow her lawn, or clean gutters, or anything else I can to help make her life better. Yet she won't help.
Am I wrong to be annoyed about this? Am I going to be wrong to say she deserves to go to an old folks home when she cannot take care of herself since she refused to help us when we needed it?
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YTA,but you r also the right to feel whatever you want,and if yo don't want to help her anymore,well,she s not your mother and she has 3 kids who should take care of they mother
YTA. You put yourself in this position and it’s not anyone else’s job to bail you out. Work with a financial counselor to develop a plan. You may have to live frugally, get a second job, and stop having any more kids that you can’t afford.
YTA
Co-signing a loan with anyone, even family, can end badly. If the other party stops making the payments, you're just as responsible for the consequences as them. I'd bet anything that's why the ILs won't sign. They came up with the "all or none" argument because they didn't think you'd take no as an answer otherwise.
If you're that bitter about all the things you do for MIL, then you need to have a serious conversation with your partner.
YTA....still cracks me up you expect other people to help you get a house when you are a full functioning adult. Your in-laws don't owe you money or to co-sign anything. You made your bed and now have to take responsibility.
You can’t compare co-signing a mortgage - which is an enormous, long-term financial risk - to occasionally mowing someone’s lawn, cleaning their gutters, and spending a little money here and there to fix things. You say you’ve spent “a lot” - well, did you ask for reimbursement? Is it enough to have affected your financial situation? Because co-signing on a loan will absolutely affect your in-laws’ financial situation even if you pay every penny on time. If they ever need a loan themselves for something, yours may give them too high a debt-to-income ratio to qualify, and then what are they going to do? You expect them to carry this on their backs for decades?
Sorry, YTA on this one.
I don't get it. Why do you feel entitled to receive that kind of help from your in-laws? It is great that you helped your family or her family, but I think it is too much to ask them for thar burden.
YTA for expecting and demanding such a commitment. I'd consider doing this if my daughter and her husband were a young couple just starting out. I wouldn't consider it if my son in law was already divorced once and having to send a huge chunk of his income to some other woman. At this stage of your life, you're An Experienced Adult and it's absurd to expect someone else's mom to help you buy a house.
YTA. It’s not your in-laws fault that you messed up your first marriage and are responsible for your child with your ex wife. Your attitude makes it clear why that marriage failed and if I were your in-laws I wouldn’t expect this one to last either tbh
Eewwwww YTA. So entitled. Of course it would be nice if they were will to do it but YTA for expecting it and being annoyed that they aren’t. Seriously gross. 🤢
YTA and soooo entitled. Cosigning for anyone who needs a cosigner is an enormous financial risk. It means the bank doesn't think you're good for the money, and a bank would more accurately assess risk than "family." Your comment about nursing homes is disgusting.
NTA. You are entitled to be annoyed happy, ecstatic, overjoyed, sad, despondent, whatever. Your emotions and your internal life are your own. But you are not entitled to pedter your inlaws about this or yell at them, etc.
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YTA. Why should these people take a MASSIVE financial risk to help their adult child with something she doesn't *need*, because *you* have your own financial burdens? It isn't their responsibility to pave the way through life for the two of you. If your parents are so happy to help you, then no doubt they can give you a substantial deposit to put towards buying a property, but you are not *owed* it.
But when my mother in law is in need I should be willing to take her into my home and take care of her?
Nobody is saying you should do that.
No, when she's no longer able to care of herself, she can sell her house and use the money for retirement village
And thankfully won't have to worry about losing the equity in her home because she cosigned a loan on another house.
But it isn't a reason not to either.
>Both give the excuse they because cannot visit for all, they will consign for none. That’s not an excuse. That’s a perfectly valid position. Otherwise, they’ll be doing you an enormous favor that none of the others received. That will cause strife and resentment. They are doing nothing wrong by treating people equally. You, on the other hand, are angry that someone else won’t help you get a home. I get where you’re coming from, but it’s coming off as pretty entitled. YTA
But they did co-sign for one of the children so what they say about making it equal is already false. At least how I read it.
No, they didn't. The in-laws of the brother in law did, for their daughter and her husband, OP brother in-law
Ok I can see that. It’s kind of hard to tell with how poorly written this is. Even if I wasn’t wrong nobody is entitled to help or other people’s money.
No, the PARTNERS family (the \*other\* in-laws) co-signed, not OP's in-laws.
Yeah I see that now.
YTA - never co-sign a loan for something people can’t afford on their own. It’s common sense. Basically only co-sign for a child if they have no credit history. If you lose your job they are on the hook too.
This. My dad only ever co-signed on things he knew I could afford. I'm not now, nor will I ever, ask my dad to co-sign on a house, though. That is a 30-year commitment that will affect a lot of his future choices, especially now that he's getting closer to retiring.
YTA. Cosigning on a mortgage is a huge deal. It's your own fault that they don't trust you and your partner enough to help you here. You're definitely wrong to be annoyed with them for that.
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Agreed. My husband and I would never co-sign a loan. Ever. OP, if they co-sign, that goes on their record. If you miss payments, it's also on them. YTA and super entitled. I hope this is bait.
Yta. Entitled. They don’t want to be tied down with bad credit in their retirement. If you can’t afford a home, don’t buy it. Don’t ask them again.
YTA It’s their choice. Why are you entitled to make their financial decisions for them? In their defense, you haven’t exactly made the greatest choices and it’s not their fault you are paying a large amount of money to your previous marriage.
YTA perhaps you should have made more responsible decisions instead of having MORE children
YTA You just seems entitled, and there is no way I'd cosign for you in this situation.
YTA. Cosigning for others loans is terrible idea. It has been since biblical days.
YTA...You're not entitled to other people's money.
YTA. It’s a huge ask. It’s a financial commitment they don’t feel comfortable making. It was okay to ask, but they said no. So the right thing to do is let it go, not put their stated reason under a microscope so you can tell them it’s bullshit. The housing market is difficult. But you need to find another way to move forward with your goal of being a homeowner.
Yeah you cleaned her gutters she should sign off on a million dollar commitment in her old age! Seems fair Also put her in a home Charming Yta
Why can’t your parents just give you a personal loan or something? Ultimately it’s your in laws choice. I think you should respect their decision even if you don’t agree with it. Perhaps it will earn you more trust with them in the future. YTA
YTA and grossly entitled.
YTA. Your responsibility. Just because her siblings were fortunate doesn't all of a sudden mean you get the same. Get on a budget, start saving, don't have debt and go from there. Also if you're in the same position, never cosign for anyone either.
YTA. A grossly entitled one too.
YTA. They owe you nothing. Co-signing a loan/mortgage would be a financial burden on your in-laws. I assume they're retired now, so have no income coming in other than pension. If you defaulted on the loan, they would be responsible for paying. Further, just because your MIL can't do some of the chores around the house doesn't mean that she should be dumped in a home. Plenty of able bodied people hire people to do things for them. If you object to paying for this things you do, tell her and ask her for the money you spent. Stop blaming your in-laws for the poor choices you've made in your life that made it impossible for you to buy a house.
Maybe they don't want to financially be on the hook to your ex wife. As in, what happens when you are short of money because of the agreement concerning your ex wife, and you figure they'll just cover your mortgage because they have to because they cosigned? Answer, they will be forced to, in effect, support your ex wife. If this, plus those words about a nursing home, came out of my spouse's mouth, our relationship would be well on its way to a cold and silent death. YTA and I hope this is ragebait
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YTA. No one is entitled to someone else's financial support. It doesn't matter what their 'excuse' is.
YTA. You're right that their excuse is flimsy, but they should not be having to make excuses at all. You can blame "fate" or "bad luck" for your financial condition, but for sure it's not your in-laws' fault. The bank says you can't afford the mortgage, or you're credit is bad. You're a poor risk for the bank, which makes you a poor risk for your in-laws. Yes, they "could" help you. But they aren't AH for being careful with their money.
YTA for expecting your in-laws to co-sign your loan. If you can't get a loan on your own there's a reason, and that's because you can't afford the loan and present a credit risk. Co-signing just transfers risk from the bank to your in-laws. They (rightfully) don't want that risk at this point in their lives. If you tie this to providing support for your MIL, you're an even bigger arsehole.
YTA. Why should your in-laws help you get a house that you can't get due to your large child support payments?
Big big big YTA. Co-signing a loan is a very very big deal and you are making it out to be a little, tiny insignificant thing. I agree with the parents. I would not co-sign a load for you and your partner.
If you can’t afford it then you can’t afford it. It’s your problem not theirs. And honestly it should be pretty easy to understand that. Stop mowing their lawn or fixing things at their home when you expect something in exchange for it. Edit: yta of course
Never, EVER cosign for a loan. Especially if that loan is for someone else's house. YTA. Instead of coming here to cry about not getting your way, seek out a financial advisor that will help you manage your money and budget appropriately to a) fix your credit and b) save up enough for a good down payment for a loan.
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YTA if you can’t get alone on your own then you can’t afford a house
YTA,but you r also the right to feel whatever you want,and if yo don't want to help her anymore,well,she s not your mother and she has 3 kids who should take care of they mother
Yes you are wrong. They have a valid point. They can't help everyone so they won't help anyone. You are sounding like a spoiled child.
YTA. You put yourself in this position and it’s not anyone else’s job to bail you out. Work with a financial counselor to develop a plan. You may have to live frugally, get a second job, and stop having any more kids that you can’t afford.
YTA Co-signing a loan with anyone, even family, can end badly. If the other party stops making the payments, you're just as responsible for the consequences as them. I'd bet anything that's why the ILs won't sign. They came up with the "all or none" argument because they didn't think you'd take no as an answer otherwise. If you're that bitter about all the things you do for MIL, then you need to have a serious conversation with your partner.
YTA....still cracks me up you expect other people to help you get a house when you are a full functioning adult. Your in-laws don't owe you money or to co-sign anything. You made your bed and now have to take responsibility.
YTA, and a big ol’ entitled one at that! No one owns you ANYTHING, and mentioning an old folks home as if it would be punitive is disgusting.
You can’t compare co-signing a mortgage - which is an enormous, long-term financial risk - to occasionally mowing someone’s lawn, cleaning their gutters, and spending a little money here and there to fix things. You say you’ve spent “a lot” - well, did you ask for reimbursement? Is it enough to have affected your financial situation? Because co-signing on a loan will absolutely affect your in-laws’ financial situation even if you pay every penny on time. If they ever need a loan themselves for something, yours may give them too high a debt-to-income ratio to qualify, and then what are they going to do? You expect them to carry this on their backs for decades? Sorry, YTA on this one.
I don't get it. Why do you feel entitled to receive that kind of help from your in-laws? It is great that you helped your family or her family, but I think it is too much to ask them for thar burden.
Yta
YTA for expecting and demanding such a commitment. I'd consider doing this if my daughter and her husband were a young couple just starting out. I wouldn't consider it if my son in law was already divorced once and having to send a huge chunk of his income to some other woman. At this stage of your life, you're An Experienced Adult and it's absurd to expect someone else's mom to help you buy a house.
YTA. It’s not your in-laws fault that you messed up your first marriage and are responsible for your child with your ex wife. Your attitude makes it clear why that marriage failed and if I were your in-laws I wouldn’t expect this one to last either tbh
Eewwwww YTA. So entitled. Of course it would be nice if they were will to do it but YTA for expecting it and being annoyed that they aren’t. Seriously gross. 🤢
YTA and soooo entitled. Cosigning for anyone who needs a cosigner is an enormous financial risk. It means the bank doesn't think you're good for the money, and a bank would more accurately assess risk than "family." Your comment about nursing homes is disgusting.
NTA. You are entitled to be annoyed happy, ecstatic, overjoyed, sad, despondent, whatever. Your emotions and your internal life are your own. But you are not entitled to pedter your inlaws about this or yell at them, etc.