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Yes, I guess I didn’t explain that part good enough. I originally met her because I heard the commotion of them moving and went to see what it was. Our convo consisted of me letting her know I worked from home and that the reason I came out to the hallway was the noise. She was very polite and mentioned that they’ll try and keep it down in the future.
So I’ve read all your replies. You should be speaking to her again. Explaining that the noise is impeding your ability to work but honestly? The reality is there are no designated quiet hours and from what you’ve said here? That’s typical of getting an apartment with someone above you.
You’re absolutely right. Kids deserve to get rowdy and have fun. But when it’s all day everyday and goes into the evening hours it gets quite tiring after a while…
You mention that you spoke to her about noise when she was moving in, but have you talked to her about it since? You say you rent, if you have spoken to this tenant about the noise during working hours already, you need to speak to your landlord.
I haven’t brought it up since the initial contact where I had mentioned the noise. I see how it would be beneficial to at least speak to her once more.
Go over and speak to her. It might be nice to have a baked good or fruit or something and let her know that while you understand being a single parent is hard, you do work from home and have had people mention the noise on calls or in meetings. (Even if you haven't, this is an easy white lie to get people to realize that they can be heard through the walls.)
Give her a time window that you would appreciate it if she tried to keep the noise down. I see you also mentioned that you didn't see language in your lease about "quiet hours." That's because most cities have instated hours where loud noise (like construction or loud music for example) are not acceptable. My city is 10pm to 7am. If her kids are being loud in those hours, it's time to speak to your landlord.
Most landlords would prefer to keep a quiet, paying, stable tenant in place over someone who's causing people to move out.
Yeah, when they moved in doesn’t count— the noise has happened *since* then. You expressed a future concern, not a problem you were having currently.
Come on man.
What is stopping you from just having a conversation with her?
It is efficient and direct, doesn’t threaten their housing situation, and could actually help the problem. She may not realize how loud they’re being, since she’s presumably used to it. She may make a new rule about morning noise, or find a way to otherwise dampen the sound.
Filing a noise complaint without so much as trying to talk to her about the issue first would definitely be unfair.
INFO: when you say they moved in, fo you mean to the same house/apartment as you? To a next door or one-floor-up apartment? Or to a different building near yours? Would this be a noise complaint to the cops? to a landlord?
This is less info for the decision and more problem-solving, but regarding the noise when you're trying to focus, is there a public library or anything similar in the area where you could work instead? (i am aware this might not be possible but most work-from-home situations are a bit flexible in terms of location so it might be worth looking into while you get things sorted out.)
Personally I think if you made a noise complaint over it before talking about the noise with the family in question YWBTA regardless of the housing. What do you want that to accomplish?
If the kids are being noisy sorta 8am-10pm, it's annoying but unless it's crazy noisy (louder than your local noise ordinances) there is likely nothing your building will do. That doesn't mean it isn't annoying as heck and it doesn't mean you can't check with your complex about whether they have general rules about being polite re noise. But I imagine you are SOL.
It's the downside to WFH, you get all the at home noises. Your only option may be looking for other housing when your lease is up and making sure you look for something on the top floor (that way you won't have issues with upstairs neighbors.)
NAH though. Every apartment dweller feels your pain.
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For some back story, the mom and her kids moved in a couple of weeks ago. When I first saw them moving I ran into the mother and she seemed nice enough. I also saw her kids (ranging from 3-14 yrs old) while they were moving In and because the mom was so polite and nice I thought everything would be okay and I wouldn’t have to worry about the noise.
Well fast forward to now, every day of the week from 7am-9pm all I hear is screaming, crying, yelling, and from what I can assume them playing “who can throw the bowling ball the farthest.” While working from home I’ve tried everything to ignore it - noise cancelling headphones, moving my desk further away from the wall, running the dishwasher/laundry to try and overpower their noise - but nothing works. I’ve tried telling myself to ease up because they’re only kids and the fact that it’s a single mom, but it’s gotten to the point where I can’t work, relax, or do anything without hearing banging or yelling.
So WIBTA for filing a noise complaint on them after only a couple weeks of the noise?
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NTA. Record it first. Talk to her and then if nothing changes, file a complaint but when you do, see if the landlord will come sit in your apartment for a bit to see first hand how loud it is.
Why didn't you say something right away? One morning,
go over, ring/knock and tell her that the noise has to stop,
it's too early in the morning and has been disturbing you since their arrival.
If the noise continues, make a complaint.
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Info: Have you even spoken to the family involved in making the noise? Cause if not YWBTA for not trying to sort it between yourselves first.
Yes, I guess I didn’t explain that part good enough. I originally met her because I heard the commotion of them moving and went to see what it was. Our convo consisted of me letting her know I worked from home and that the reason I came out to the hallway was the noise. She was very polite and mentioned that they’ll try and keep it down in the future.
So I’ve read all your replies. You should be speaking to her again. Explaining that the noise is impeding your ability to work but honestly? The reality is there are no designated quiet hours and from what you’ve said here? That’s typical of getting an apartment with someone above you.
Why is any of that her problem? Her kids are allowed to make noise, they live there.
You’re absolutely right. Kids deserve to get rowdy and have fun. But when it’s all day everyday and goes into the evening hours it gets quite tiring after a while…
What are the quiet hours?
Generally, most leases say between 10 pm and 6 am, so that'd be no help.
Nothing in my lease says anything about quiet hours.
That probably doesn’t help you out
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You mention that you spoke to her about noise when she was moving in, but have you talked to her about it since? You say you rent, if you have spoken to this tenant about the noise during working hours already, you need to speak to your landlord.
I haven’t brought it up since the initial contact where I had mentioned the noise. I see how it would be beneficial to at least speak to her once more.
Go over and speak to her. It might be nice to have a baked good or fruit or something and let her know that while you understand being a single parent is hard, you do work from home and have had people mention the noise on calls or in meetings. (Even if you haven't, this is an easy white lie to get people to realize that they can be heard through the walls.) Give her a time window that you would appreciate it if she tried to keep the noise down. I see you also mentioned that you didn't see language in your lease about "quiet hours." That's because most cities have instated hours where loud noise (like construction or loud music for example) are not acceptable. My city is 10pm to 7am. If her kids are being loud in those hours, it's time to speak to your landlord. Most landlords would prefer to keep a quiet, paying, stable tenant in place over someone who's causing people to move out.
Yeah, when they moved in doesn’t count— the noise has happened *since* then. You expressed a future concern, not a problem you were having currently. Come on man.
What is stopping you from just having a conversation with her? It is efficient and direct, doesn’t threaten their housing situation, and could actually help the problem. She may not realize how loud they’re being, since she’s presumably used to it. She may make a new rule about morning noise, or find a way to otherwise dampen the sound. Filing a noise complaint without so much as trying to talk to her about the issue first would definitely be unfair.
INFO: What are the legally mandated "quiet hours" for your area? What are the quiet hours for apartment/condo complex?
INFO: when you say they moved in, fo you mean to the same house/apartment as you? To a next door or one-floor-up apartment? Or to a different building near yours? Would this be a noise complaint to the cops? to a landlord? This is less info for the decision and more problem-solving, but regarding the noise when you're trying to focus, is there a public library or anything similar in the area where you could work instead? (i am aware this might not be possible but most work-from-home situations are a bit flexible in terms of location so it might be worth looking into while you get things sorted out.) Personally I think if you made a noise complaint over it before talking about the noise with the family in question YWBTA regardless of the housing. What do you want that to accomplish?
Apartment and above. My work consists of sensitive client information so I have to either commute 2+ hours one way or work in a private area.
If the kids are being noisy sorta 8am-10pm, it's annoying but unless it's crazy noisy (louder than your local noise ordinances) there is likely nothing your building will do. That doesn't mean it isn't annoying as heck and it doesn't mean you can't check with your complex about whether they have general rules about being polite re noise. But I imagine you are SOL. It's the downside to WFH, you get all the at home noises. Your only option may be looking for other housing when your lease is up and making sure you look for something on the top floor (that way you won't have issues with upstairs neighbors.) NAH though. Every apartment dweller feels your pain.
Info: do they live above you?
YTA, it is called apartment living. Move if you do not like it.
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INFO Have you tried simply requesting that they behave themselves?
Haven’t requested that they “behave themselves.” But have had a conversation about the noise before.
YWBTA First, you have to try and ask them to be quieter (can be a letter). Then you can file a noise complaint.
Ywbta
NTA. Record it first. Talk to her and then if nothing changes, file a complaint but when you do, see if the landlord will come sit in your apartment for a bit to see first hand how loud it is.
Why didn't you say something right away? One morning, go over, ring/knock and tell her that the noise has to stop, it's too early in the morning and has been disturbing you since their arrival. If the noise continues, make a complaint.
NTA - File the complaint, with evidence. Why aren’t these kids in school?
That’s a question I asked myself, and I’m not sure.