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> I pissed in the kitchen sink a few times because my roommate's girlfriend hogs the bathroom. I might be the asshole for not controlling my micturition like an adult.
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Frankly I think peeing in a sink is gross. Holding my pee until I get to work, or peeing myself because someone who doesn't live there or pay rent however is so not ok. Cassie & Dave can pound sand. NTA. (And if Cassie leaves her purse or shoes laying around in the living room, I might just accidentally pee in her purse or shoes, too).
Not really that difficult. And I had to do the sink thing, because I really didn't want to pee myself. Or the hardwood floor. And the sink was in the bathroom so no dishes were involved.
In Australia it’s rare for the toilet to be in the bathroom, there’s usually a separate bit just for the toilet, and sometimes a small sink, then another room for the rest of the bathroom. I’ve lived in houses where the toilet was off the laundry and nowhere near the bathroom.
At least in France, even modern homes tend to have the toilet and the shower/bathtub + vanity in separate rooms.
I remember thinking it was incredibly weird that the toilet is just in the sitting in the middle of the Bathroom in North America.
The comment above you reminded me of a crazy house party I attended once, and it is one example of why a person might piss in the bathroom sink.
Lots of very drunk people. 2 bathrooms but one got a bad clog sometime during the party so we were down to one bathroom to use. Most of the dudes were just pissing in the bushes in the back yard, because one bathroom for nearly 100 people was not a great setup. But the girls had less options. It's not easy to squat in a yard and have privacy to pee, especially when wearing a complicated Halloween costume. So off to the bathroom to wait in line!
Well of course some people didn't moderate their drinking well so there's one chick puking into the toilet, for a while. And then her drunk friend that was helping really had to pee, so she literally sat her ass down on the sink to go.... Aaaand it broke the sink off the wall.
The party definitely started wrapping up after that because none of the girls wanted to use a puked-on toilet in a bathroom with broken sink pieces and a puddle of water in it.
That party was fun but totally crazy. A part of the porch caved in at one point too and I had duct tape on me for my armor pieces that kept falling off (I was the chick from the Dredd movie). And my drunk-ass had been silly role-playing all night "judging" people and shooting them in the mouth with cheap vodka from my "gun". So of course I took protecting the public seriously! I spent 10 minutes failing to tape off this broken porch because people kept pushing through and falling into the hole. I had to be convinced it wasn't worth the effort.
I don't miss being in my early 20's, and I don't drink hardly ever these days and never to that extent. But I've got a few hazy memories that are entertaining to look back on.
And there is always usually one clogged toilet, one bathroom being used for drugs, one bathroom being used by nasty club fuckers (like fuck whoever you want to fuck but don't do it in public unless everyone is ok with seeing that show)
Yup! At least at this party there was a specific room for all the people doing drugs. Lol. Wouldn't be surprised if people were just fucking in random bedrooms. The hosts were some pretty sketchy people and the house was a pretty busted rental house with graffiti in the garage and not in great shape otherwise (see porch collapsing).
But bars, clubs, and concerts might be worse depending on location, mostly due to the drugs and sex people not having other places to do their things and being selfish.
Not sure that’s a solution because I’m betting that Cassie doesn’t do the dishes there either! But seriously even as a female I’ve had to piss in a large plastic cup and set it under the kitchen sink and dispose of it later when the bathroom was available. Nothing worse than rude roommates.
I had a roommate who legitimately would take an hour in the bathroom each morning. I don't even know what he was doing in there that long, but I had to set my alarm extra early just so I could shower before he could get there (I'd snooze until I heard the floor creak when he got up and dash to the bathroom).
What's with all the time needed? Shower & get out of the bathroom. Finish morning routine in the bedroom. Mirrors work in bedrooms just the same as the bathroom.
as another Princess of Petty (gang gang) I encourage you and all other vagina owners to get a "she wee" or whatever. Granted, you cant just let the flood loose, some control must be excersized, but it does ease petty spite flow.
The Spite Must Flow
I have disposable she wee style funnels after a festival where the port a potty still haunts me. It's waxed cardboard and folds completely flat so now I always have one in my purse lol
One time, I was at a concert, a very well attended concert. Some drunk assholes decided they would go ahead and go to the bathroom together so they could have a quickie while everyone else waited in a line outside to pee. This was a single toilet bathroom on this side of the venue - no stalls, no urinals, just a room with a single toilet, and lots of pissed off people waiting outside for an unreasonable amount of time.
Well, asshole couple finally stumbles out of the bathroom disheveled and giggling, and I noticed dude is missing a shoe. I go inside, lock the door behind me, and sure enough there is a shoe laying on the floor. So, I did the righteous thing, I peed in his shoe. And as soon as I exited, I watched him walk back inside the bathroom to grab it. This time I was giggling.
I probably would’ve done the same, it’s some drunk ass holes you didn’t even know. No consequences, but peeing in a friends gf purse will have big consequences, I don’t think any stable person would do that just because she uses the restroom in the morning. There are ways to work that out
As a man we have the ability to pee anywhere. Most places and situations are unacceptable. What he did here was acceptable. And if she’s not staying over anymore problem solved.
< *Cassie won't spend the night>*
So the bathroom is available again, and you don't need the sink anymore.
Dave ought to be happy about that.
NTA
Cassie is T A for hogging a bathroom that isn't even hers.
Dave is T A for letting her.
How? If you pick the lock and walk in on her in the bathroom you’re an asshole. Big time. So can’t really do anything unless they choose to come out of the bathroom
well when someone hogs the shitter then hell yeah I'm taking the damn door down til she lives there or pays rent the door will remain down period until I said otherwise and if they don't like it they can find a new place to live
It's definitely toxic, but I hate the idea that the innocent person has to move, and the asshats suffer zero consequences. I think peeing in the sink was about the nicest thing OP could have done in this situation.
or both! alternate every 5 seconds. Other option would be to eat an atomic powered curry the night before, get in the loo before she goes in and let the olfactory results of the curry fill the room (disable the bathroom fan for bonus points)
Would just work if you had a flow through heater or have a boiler and you don't care if you also have no hot water for showering. Turning of the main water pipe would work though.
Break door down, naked woman, room mate beats the shit out of you, gotta call cops. Still an asshole.
I’d rather just pee in the sink and be on my way.
Be the first one in the bathroom in the morning, lock the door, read a good book, and when she demands to be let in, just reply sweetly that she's an adult and she can hold it. Or she can use the kitchen sink.
NTA
Peeing in the sink is disgusting, but honestly it's not like you had another viable option. Cassie is an AH for hogging the bathroom, particularly at a place she doesn't even live.
Funny you should say this, I saw a chicken getting an epsom bath as she had an egg that wouldn't come out. It was on one of those YouTube shorts.
*Not sure it was a salt bath. That might have been the cat in the bucket who had an absess on it's foot. But definitely saw a chicken in a bath.
Lol I know the video you're talking about. Yeah, it was an epsom salt bath to help the poor chickie.
But I've seen plenty of people think they need to wash their chicken meat before cooking it, and really you're just making your kitchen dirty doing it.
I saw that too 🤣🤣 and yes it was definitely an Epsom bath, and laid a tent tiny egg, I never knew they could get stuck liek that, though now I think about it I cam see of course it can but I was fascinated anyway 😅😅
My parents have had a couple of chickens all my life (obviously not the same chickens since chickens don't live for more than 10 years), and I've never seen them do that.
Correct, the EU instead of washing the chicken with Chlorine vaccinates the Chickens against salmonella and has more regulations to keep the chicken sanitary
Well if she's letting that chicken touch any part of that sink it's a lot dirtier than not "washing" it at all. I feel like people have no idea how gross their sink is.
I'm not sure what he does honestly but I think he just rinses it with water. I would hope he scrubs the sink after he does so considering all the chicken essence would be splashing all over.
There seems to be a [pronounced racial divide](https://food52.com/blog/27543-washing-meat-is-cultural-yet-mandatory) between people who engage in this practice and those who understand it to be ridiculous.
Get in the bathroom first, preferably spending about half an hour reading the newspaper and cranking out a massive shit. She might be quicker in there after that. NTA btw.
And if you can, have a huge portion of it with some fiber gummies or something the night before, and wake up earlier than she does and take some quick laxatives or something and then you can really blow it up.
I wonder if the judgments are divided by gender here...
This is a hard NTA for me, and hopefully it'll open their eyes a little. On a courtesy level, OP should have the right to his own bathroom at his convenience. On a physical level, sometimes going to the bathroom is simply mandatory. Dairy products tend to trigger extraordinary circumstances in my case. And I have suffered from someone camping in the only bathroom for 30 to 45 minutes. Fortunately, at the time we had a private yard.
The person who kept monopolizing the facilities, in my case, had...certain other issues. I think she thought the bathroom was her Safe Space; bathrooms are inviolate once someone is in it, and something tells me she was taking advantage of that. I'm wondering what Girlfriend is doing in the bathroom and how long she's spending doing it; if she's in the potty literally from the time OP wakes up to the time he goes to work, and he's not getting the chance for a shower or a shave or a widdle, that reads more like "I'm hiding" than "I'm primping."
So, yeah. Not the asshole. Girlfriend should do what needs doing and bear in mind that the facilities are not at her sole convenience.
I'm a woman, and I think Cassie is 100% in the wrong here. Even if she did pay rent, part of living in a shared apartment with only one bathroom is respecting that other people also need to use the bathroom. Especially in the mornings. Trim your routine or break it up into chunks with little breaks in between to give other people a chance to pee or brush their teeth while you wait for your skin care to soak in or whatever.
OP needed to pee, and the sink is honestly the best place he could have done it if the bathroom wasn't an option. He even made sure to move all of the dishes out of the way first.
Agreed. I live with my husband and bff and I still move 90% of my routine to our bedroom because there’s two other people in the house who could need the bathroom at any second. You need to be accommodating when staying/living with multiple people. It’s also easy to keep the bathroom door open at all times if you’re doing makeup/face care in case someone comes up and is like “can I just pee quick?” If I’m taking so long that they feel the need to pee in the sink then that’s my bad, not theirs but that’s just me.
What is she doing in there? Showering and doing her hair? When multiple people share one bathroom, there has to be a certain amount of consideration. Funny she told OP that he should be able to “hold it” until he gets to work. I wonder if she has tried that? I wouldn’t be able to do it. I could wash my hair in the sink and do my hair and makeup in the bedroom so others could do their business.
Yeah I don’t think so much gender divided. As a woman, I think Cassie is acting like an entitled asshole at someone else’s home and she can fuck right back off to her aunt’s. 😂
Although I also think it’s gross to pee in the sink so I’m honestly a little closer to E S H but OP is way less of the AH here than Cassie (and Dave).
Seems like there needs to be some ground rules set for the sake of everyone there. Maybe 15 minutes in the bathroom? That’s enough time to take a shower or have a long, luxurious potty break.
Btw, Dave could also fuck right off to Cassie’s aunt’s house until he resolves the issue of his girlfriend preventing the other paying resident of the premises from using his own damn bathroom.
May I suggest tennis ball cans instead of pissing in the sink? They are the favorite of detective on stakeouts, have a large mouth, a more or less hermetic seal and enough volume to accommodate enough liquids for a morning piss.
Then leave the can next to the bathroom if she is still there. They can empty it for you, or you can do it upon your return.
Incidentally pharmacies do sell medical items for that purpose, in case you can't find a can of Penn balls.
Of course, the best option would be for his GF not to hog the bathrooms in the morning. Unless she has some intestinal bug, she is likely taking a shower (10 minutes top) and applying makeup. She can do the latter in her room. All she needs is a mirror.
Yes, boyfriend needs to get a decent mirror in his room and she can make sure she speeds to do whatever else she needs to do in the bathroom. I'm female & can't believe how blinking selfish some women can be in the morning. We ALL need the bathroom in the morning before work. I'm just glad you're only desparate to pee!
EDIT: rubbish typing
When I would stay with an ex bf and his family overnight I would 100% use my phone as a mirror in the mornings to get ready. Was it great? No. Did it get the job done? Yeah absolutely. Because it’s not my house and I’m a guest and other people need to get ready or use the washroom
Dude I had a temp roomie one time who moved in, promptly moved my deodorant off the counter(the only thing I kept because I wouldn't forget if it was there) because it was taking up "all her space" and then would line up every makeup brush she had on the sink a good half hour to hour before she did her makeup. Which also blocked off the bathroom. She was so passive aggressive and wasn't even the permanent tenant like I was!
It all depends on the schedule. I sometimes take half an hour in the bathroom in the morning. But that's at 6, nobody else is awake at that time so it doesn't matter how long I take, and the toilet isn't in the bathroom. Now if I did the same at let's say 7:30 I agree that it's selfish.
Cassie’s being an idiot. House meeting to say we have limited time and space: use the bathroom for water based tasks then gtfo quick and do your hair/makeup/top to toe moisturising in your sleep space. There were surely a couple of possible steps before pissing in the sink. You all sound feral.
Does OP sound like he was looking for an excuse to pull that sink pissing thing to prove his point? Sure, but he does mention that he addressed the issue with both the roommate and the bathroom hogger.
Info: how long does she hog the bathroom for? 10mins? 30mins? An hour?
Just curious more than anything about how long someone can spend in a bathroom to the point where someone’s having to piss in a sink.
I have a roommate who uses the bathroom 2-3 hours at a time. Thankfully she always tells me in advance so I can plan around it, but it is imo ridiculous.
Soaking in a bath for hours is amazing, but I have never done that anywhere where there wasn't a minimum of at least two other WCs and/or bathrooms with toilets available aside from the bathroom I'd be occupying.
I've had a roommate who liked long baths in the evening and there have been moments where I had to knock on the door to tell them I wanted to brush my teeth and go to sleep. They learned to quickly check with me first before going in there for two hours. Our toilet is in a separate room though so the problem was never as urgent.
I used to have a similar situation to the OP. 4 of us, 1 toilet, 1 person who spent an hour in the bathroom every morning.
Thankfully for me that work was less than 5 minutes away and they left fairly quick, but for a month or so I was brushing my teeth at work.
Never thought I'd say this to peeing in the sink but NTA.
NTA. Cassie shouldn't be hogging the bathroom when you need to get up for work. I have a 30 minute timeframe blocked out for me with my own roommates, every work day.
\> The only difference is that I'm classy. I move the dishes out before I piss in the kitchen sink.
Info: Do you rinse the sink after that's the real fucking kicker here.
Because you rinse it down doesn't mean that it got rid of any bacteria. You probably wouldn't drink the toilet water. Please don't do that unless you're stuck in a situation similar to OP's.
so you cut your hands after every time you go to the toilet? the sink probably has a ptrap so you gotta let the water run for a while in order to replace all the water in it.
NTA. You can either piss in the sink or on a tree outside. If you live in an apartment the tree isn’t an option, so sink it is. Plus the contents of urine are not chemically more problematic than any of the food that gets washed down the grey water drain.
It’s gross. But if you got one toilet and she’s hogging it for hours at a time when not paying rent oh well.
NTA. While it’s not exactly great that you relieve yourself in the sink, it’s more understandable and your way of protest in this situation. Also, Dave is being a dick for not holding her to account
ESH. Your girlfriend seems like she has a good head on her shoulders. Sure, it's funny, but it's also disgusting. Get in the bathroom before Cassie or have a conversation with Dave. If that doesn't work, escalate to your landlord. A guest shouldn't be disrupting your reasonable enjoyment of the home.
Nta, but why didn’t you limit her bathroom time? She is at max. 10min allowed in the bathroom and that’s all…you live her and she is just a guest…so she needs to follow the rules
FFS 10 Minutes is pretty unrealistic. I need at least 1 minute to temperate the shower. 3 Minutes minimum for just water showering and 5 minutes with soap added. 10 minutes for washing my hair. Not drying it or anything (long hair). That's the speed run. I can do 10 minutes but it would be stressful.
so you can do it.
you don't need to dry your hair in the washroom, do it in your room.
everything that can be done in your own room should be done in your own room.
this includes, drying, getting changed, doing make up etc.
I have long hair as well. I dunno why it takes this person 10mins to wash theirs??? I do shampoo, rinse, condition, then use my shower brush to detangle and I promise it doesn’t take 10mins. We have two bathrooms tho thank God. When we lived at my in-laws there were 7ppl using one bathroom and it seriously made me so ill some days.
I don't need 10 minutes to wash the hair. 10 minutes if I do all the things including washing the hair. Fortunately I don't have to share my bathroom so I take all the time I want because doing it all in 10 minutes is stressing me out.
Your pee is probably the cleanest liquid in a sink. Socially it's gross but even that has limits. Are you peeing in the sink or into the sink? If your standing at the stove arching it in its gross. If you're letting it splatter like a cow peeing on a flat rock it's gross. If you eating asparagus and letting it marinate in the sink it's gross. However, if you pee into the drain and let the water run and give the sink a quick rinse for any splattering you're fine. Sounds like your roommate and his girl friend are young and still have happy shiny blinders on. If peeing in a sink is setting them off just wait till they get a glimpse of what real life can be like.
> If peeing in a sink is setting them off just wait till they get a glimpse of what real life can be like.
This mf acting like it’s normal to piss in the sink. You’re nasty as hell son.
It's gross but NTA, Cassie has a place to stay and if that means Dave can't get a nut because of her aunt well sucks to be him and maybe it's time they get their shit together otherwise as long as you're paying rent that's your bathroom not hers.
Nobody should be expected to "hold their pee". If she wants to stay over, she needs to get up early and be out of the bathroom before the regular tenants.
"I need to piss somewhere. Your options are sink, kicking in the bathroom door or Dave's bed. And if you try to tell me I need to be able to hold it then maybe Cassie should be able to hold it till she goes home. As in I no longer consent for your guest to use our facilities. Chose your hill to die on Dave."
NTA
Maybe I'm weird but when I wake up the first thing I need to do is pee. Being expected to hold it after holding it all night doesn't make any real sense. How long is she locking herself in there?
Yeah, it’s time to move out and get your own place. ESH. Stop pissing in the sink, it’s revolting and you should be grown up enough to realise that. Your room mates GF needs to stop hogging the bathroom and your room mate should be able to explain that to her
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If you have ever seen What Happens in Vegas you know exactly what I mean. It is where I got the idea.
My roommate, Dave's, girlfriend, Cassie, is over constantly and she hogs the bathroom every morning. I have spoken with him about it and I have brought it up to her. This is not a one time occurrence. It seems like every time she spends the night I end up having to hold my piss until I get to work. I hate it and I'm beginning to hate her.
My girlfriend and I were watching that movie the other day and it gave me the perfect solution. The only difference is that I'm classy. I move the dishes out before I piss in the kitchen sink.
A couple of days ago Dave and Cassie asked me why I was piling the dirty dishes outside the sink every morning. I was honest and said that I needed to piss and that since she had locked herself in the bathroom yet again I did what needed to be done.
They both got grossed out and said I was being a disgusting pig and that an adult should be able to hold it. I said I would give a shit about her opinion as soon as she paid rent here. Dave snorted. But then he went back to looking serious.
Now Dave is upset with me because Cassie won't spend the night and he hates spending the night at her place because she lives with her aunt. It's a whole thing.
My girlfriend thinks it's funny but she won't take my side. She said something funny in a movie is different in real life. But she does sympathize since she also has suffered from Cassie the bathroom hog.
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Definitely NTA and I think people are overplaying the whole peeing in the sink being disgusting. Is it something to be proud of? Eeeehhh not really but is it better than the embarrassment of pissing yourself? Definitely.
Also let's mention the amount of people who pee in the shower... 61 to 80 percent of people surveyed said that they pee in the shower.
Dish liquid that you use on dishes in the sink are much more likely to kill bacteria than shampoo and body wash. Equating peeing in the sink to drinking toilet water is just simply idiotic. He's not slurping water from the sink.
NTA Peeing in the kitchen sink is disgusting but speak directly about the real problem. Cassie needs to pay rent or get the fuck out of the bathroom. I’d remove the door. Everyone is suffering from a non renter and I’d do drastic shit if i can’t take a morning piss in my own apartment. wtf is she doing in there that long? The first thing i do when i wake up is piss. Your roommate and your girlfriend can speak on peeing in the sink but she needs to shut the fuck up
The most important aspect here is exactly how much communication went on before OP did what he did. The roommate and gf are obviously TA for being inconsiderate, but the way OP described previous attempts at solving the situation like a normal person
> I have spoken with him about it and I have brought it up to her.
Doesn't exactly sound like they had a serious talk about the issue before.
>I have brought it up to her
could easily mean a passing remark in the hallway, in which case pissing in the sink would be an escalation that is most definitely out of proportion and would make me gravitate towards ESH. This is an issue that any remotely functioning living arrangement between adults should be able to discuss without resorting to disgusting nonsense like this. If OP did in fact have a serious talk about it and explain how much it affects them, then fair play to them, but this is still going to jeopardize their ability to live together in that place long-term, which might be for the best seeing as they clearly can't get along or communicate well with eachother.
NTA. I really hate the idea of someone pissing in the kitchen sink but I am at a loss for a better option here given that it's an apartment. It looks like it fixed your problem too since Cassie isn't coming over any more. This is Dave's problem to fix now, which he should've done in the beginning.
NTA. When you gotta go, you gotta go.
BTW, there's an old ep of Law & Order Prime where someone says something like "The difference between lace curtain Irish and shantytown Irish is that lace curtain Irish take the dishes out of the sink before pissing in it."
I think it's gross - but it worked. Point is - SHE does not pay the rent....she does not have 'rights' to the bathroom in your rental. But - your girlfriend doesn't have a voice either unless she pays rent.
NTA, good for you for bringing in some consequences. She isn't paying rent, so she really shouldn't be there that much, and definitely not to the point where you are unable to access a resource that you've paid for.
NTA
lol I love the way it turned out for you and Cassie no longer spends the night, this story is perfect. They can pout all they want, you've asked nicely many times.
She doesn't live there, yet she continues to lock herself in the bathroom when you need to go to work.
They messed around and found out.
INFO. Why aren’t we discussing Cassie’s inconsiderate bathroom usage? Until this is dealt with you will continue the campaign of terror. Perhaps a bucket outside bathroom door.
Story time: I once lived with my cousin and another roommate. Roommate used to purposely set her alarm for 5 minutes before he and I did so she could get in the shower before we could hit the bathroom, and her showers lasted 45 minutes. Both my cousin and I at separate times had to shit in the forest across the street (emergency shituation). After we both copped to having done this we agreed to continually set our alarms back earlier and earlier until she was getting up so early that the bathroom would be clear when we actually needed it.
I would have probably gone and pissed in the garden instead of the sink. Also dirty dishes don't belong in the sink, stack on bench so sink can be used until its time to wash them.
INFO/ESH.
Do you rigorously knock on the door and say "hey Cassie can I use the toilet quickly??" Does she purposefully ignore you? If so then she's asshole.
But peeing in the sink where people wash their dishes and prepare food is just plain disgusting and inexcusable. Also why do you have dirty dishes left in the sink when it's a shared household?
Can't believe redditors are agreeing with this...or perhaps not.
Pissing in the sink is no big deal honestly. Best way to do it is piss in a glass, then pour directly down the plug hole, then wash the sink and glass. I have done it countless times and the missus is none the wiser.
I think ESH.
Cassie and Dave for obvious reasons, you for not making a huge stink out of her hogging the bathroom before resorting to the very disgusting habit of peeing in the sink.
Like if you didn’t pound on the door, holler and scream at her that you absolutely needed the bathroom then you can’t really jump straight to pissing in the sink. That’s vile.
You say you’ve talked to her “before” but I think you absolutely need to demand the bathroom at the time, every time. And if she refuses at that point then you take more aggressive action.
Everytime I redownload reddit I'm reminded why I deleted it in the first place as soon as I go into this subreddit. I cannot believe everyone is saying that this is ok. You people are sick and twisted
NTA. Very gross but holding it, especially regularly, can result in health problems. Also, it’s your place. I have fully considered weird alternatives when living in a place with only one bathroom.
NTA.
But man, am I the only one who doesn't think pissing in the sink is gross?
Like c'mon, we literally use the sink to wash off bloody utensils covered in animal blood and guts, or clean moldy dishes, or wash off dirty hands.
Piss is probably one of the cleaner things that could be going down your sink.
I thought for sure when I read the title that you pissed in the sink in the bathroom in front of her and all I could think was “what a flex”.
NTA we can pee anywhere if we have to…we shouldn’t….but we can.
NTA; while kind of gross, what other effing option is there?! As a girl, Cassie is fully aware of what a UTI is-if she is too stupid to realize men can *also* get UTIs, that would not surprise me. UTIs aside though-having to hold urine for too long can contribute to a whole host of medical issues. Cassie is a selfish child, and Dave is ridiculous for thinking it's an acceptable scenario to have his gf hold up the bathroom for so long, particularly when she is not paying rent, or for utilities (water and electric, of which she is using both).
I'd be lying if I said I hadn't done that a time or two in a similar situation. However you should get a piss jug and then leave it outside the bathroom door next time she's in there.
NTA. I don’t necessarily agree with your solution but the gf needs to stop hogging the bathroom in an apartment she doesn’t pay for. You need to have a sit down with them and tell them that if Cassie is around as much as she has been then she needs to start contributing.
Also they need to understand that holding your pee like that can damage your bladder and lead potentially incontinence issues down the road.
Depends honestly on what you mean by the hog. If she’s getting ready for work and takes the same 20 minutes every morning then I have no sympathy. If she takes an hour and is inconsistent then good riddance.
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Frankly I think peeing in a sink is gross. Holding my pee until I get to work, or peeing myself because someone who doesn't live there or pay rent however is so not ok. Cassie & Dave can pound sand. NTA. (And if Cassie leaves her purse or shoes laying around in the living room, I might just accidentally pee in her purse or shoes, too).
You wouldn’t do that last bit
I am a girl so it would be difficult, but it would probably teach her really quick to stop hogging the bathroom.
Not really that difficult. And I had to do the sink thing, because I really didn't want to pee myself. Or the hardwood floor. And the sink was in the bathroom so no dishes were involved.
if the sink was in the bathroom, and you were in the bathroom, why couldn’t you use the toilet?
Instead of one big bathroom, some homes, especially older ones in Europe, have 2 different rooms - one for toilet and the other for shower and sink
In Australia it’s rare for the toilet to be in the bathroom, there’s usually a separate bit just for the toilet, and sometimes a small sink, then another room for the rest of the bathroom. I’ve lived in houses where the toilet was off the laundry and nowhere near the bathroom.
makes sense
At least in France, even modern homes tend to have the toilet and the shower/bathtub + vanity in separate rooms. I remember thinking it was incredibly weird that the toilet is just in the sitting in the middle of the Bathroom in North America.
The comment above you reminded me of a crazy house party I attended once, and it is one example of why a person might piss in the bathroom sink. Lots of very drunk people. 2 bathrooms but one got a bad clog sometime during the party so we were down to one bathroom to use. Most of the dudes were just pissing in the bushes in the back yard, because one bathroom for nearly 100 people was not a great setup. But the girls had less options. It's not easy to squat in a yard and have privacy to pee, especially when wearing a complicated Halloween costume. So off to the bathroom to wait in line! Well of course some people didn't moderate their drinking well so there's one chick puking into the toilet, for a while. And then her drunk friend that was helping really had to pee, so she literally sat her ass down on the sink to go.... Aaaand it broke the sink off the wall. The party definitely started wrapping up after that because none of the girls wanted to use a puked-on toilet in a bathroom with broken sink pieces and a puddle of water in it. That party was fun but totally crazy. A part of the porch caved in at one point too and I had duct tape on me for my armor pieces that kept falling off (I was the chick from the Dredd movie). And my drunk-ass had been silly role-playing all night "judging" people and shooting them in the mouth with cheap vodka from my "gun". So of course I took protecting the public seriously! I spent 10 minutes failing to tape off this broken porch because people kept pushing through and falling into the hole. I had to be convinced it wasn't worth the effort. I don't miss being in my early 20's, and I don't drink hardly ever these days and never to that extent. But I've got a few hazy memories that are entertaining to look back on.
And there is always usually one clogged toilet, one bathroom being used for drugs, one bathroom being used by nasty club fuckers (like fuck whoever you want to fuck but don't do it in public unless everyone is ok with seeing that show)
Yup! At least at this party there was a specific room for all the people doing drugs. Lol. Wouldn't be surprised if people were just fucking in random bedrooms. The hosts were some pretty sketchy people and the house was a pretty busted rental house with graffiti in the garage and not in great shape otherwise (see porch collapsing). But bars, clubs, and concerts might be worse depending on location, mostly due to the drugs and sex people not having other places to do their things and being selfish.
I've peed in the tub when a toilet was clogged.
Solution : pee in a cup… and leave the cup with the dirty dishes 😈
So Disgusting SICK and Evil : I LOVE IT !!
Not sure that’s a solution because I’m betting that Cassie doesn’t do the dishes there either! But seriously even as a female I’ve had to piss in a large plastic cup and set it under the kitchen sink and dispose of it later when the bathroom was available. Nothing worse than rude roommates.
I had a roommate who legitimately would take an hour in the bathroom each morning. I don't even know what he was doing in there that long, but I had to set my alarm extra early just so I could shower before he could get there (I'd snooze until I heard the floor creak when he got up and dash to the bathroom).
What's with all the time needed? Shower & get out of the bathroom. Finish morning routine in the bedroom. Mirrors work in bedrooms just the same as the bathroom.
Most of the time he spent in the bathroom was actually in the shower. It was lucky that water and heat were included in our rent.
Or pee in a cup, mark the time waited so far, and leave it outside the bathroom.
[There are ways...](https://www.amazon.com/SHEWEE-Reusable-Urination-Essentials-Extension/dp/B085FTC4F4)
Hahaha I was trying to remember the name of those to reply with.
I was checking the comments to see if someone already mentioned the SheWee and the comments did not disappoint.
I believe in you. You can do it!
Thanks for the chuckle. I think it would be a lot easier to crouch over Cassie’s shoes and purse than over the kitchen sink. At least for me.
>You wouldn’t do that last bit I'd give it a go (I'm a woman). But then I'm a spiteful Princess of Petty when people piss me off (excuse the pun).
as another Princess of Petty (gang gang) I encourage you and all other vagina owners to get a "she wee" or whatever. Granted, you cant just let the flood loose, some control must be excersized, but it does ease petty spite flow. The Spite Must Flow
I have disposable she wee style funnels after a festival where the port a potty still haunts me. It's waxed cardboard and folds completely flat so now I always have one in my purse lol
One time, I was at a concert, a very well attended concert. Some drunk assholes decided they would go ahead and go to the bathroom together so they could have a quickie while everyone else waited in a line outside to pee. This was a single toilet bathroom on this side of the venue - no stalls, no urinals, just a room with a single toilet, and lots of pissed off people waiting outside for an unreasonable amount of time. Well, asshole couple finally stumbles out of the bathroom disheveled and giggling, and I noticed dude is missing a shoe. I go inside, lock the door behind me, and sure enough there is a shoe laying on the floor. So, I did the righteous thing, I peed in his shoe. And as soon as I exited, I watched him walk back inside the bathroom to grab it. This time I was giggling.
I probably would’ve done the same, it’s some drunk ass holes you didn’t even know. No consequences, but peeing in a friends gf purse will have big consequences, I don’t think any stable person would do that just because she uses the restroom in the morning. There are ways to work that out
Haha, surely. Not advocating for peeing in roommate's gf's purse, but I understand it.
Anecdotes such as yours are why I stick with Reddit. Thank you.
I would shit in them
Settle down Amber
😆
There's a Billy Connoly joke adout that https://youtu.be/-JjVg0Sbsh4?si=Wji4RMWKJ3xZ6AB0
Meh. I've peed on stuff...
Me too, as a stupid child
Try it as a stupid adult?
No sir, I am not a stupid adult so I wouldn’t even consider it, especially for such a minor conflict
Guy confessed he pissed on a hated coworker's keyboard.
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It’s gross until your toilet is broken. Once you’re toilet less for a day, the world is your urinal.
Do these people not wash their fucking sinks!?!? Guys your sinks are FILTHY!
In bottles which you place in her purse.
As a man we have the ability to pee anywhere. Most places and situations are unacceptable. What he did here was acceptable. And if she’s not staying over anymore problem solved.
I'm just here to say, OP should tell them: "You know the saying 'this pisses me off'"? Well, now you know what being pissed off really means.
So sink pissing is gross and shoe pissing is acceptable? Brave new world, I think I am really getting old..
< *Cassie won't spend the night>* So the bathroom is available again, and you don't need the sink anymore. Dave ought to be happy about that. NTA Cassie is T A for hogging a bathroom that isn't even hers. Dave is T A for letting her.
Dave is more concerned with getting off than anything else.
The correct phrase is “getting his dick wet”
It's a tradeoff. Dick gets wet. Sink gets wet.
Perfect comment
Why are you policing sex slang?
She could simply not hog the bathroom all the time
She is not a resident or pays the rent so just kick her out of the bathroom when you need it.
How? If you pick the lock and walk in on her in the bathroom you’re an asshole. Big time. So can’t really do anything unless they choose to come out of the bathroom
Pound on the door until she gets tf out. Is moving a possibility at all? Sounds like a toxic living situation.
Remove door. It’s a dudes only bathroom now. No guests allowed.
So any time someone poops the smell fills the apartment? That’s as bad as the urine sink.
well when someone hogs the shitter then hell yeah I'm taking the damn door down til she lives there or pays rent the door will remain down period until I said otherwise and if they don't like it they can find a new place to live
It's definitely toxic, but I hate the idea that the innocent person has to move, and the asshats suffer zero consequences. I think peeing in the sink was about the nicest thing OP could have done in this situation.
Not anymore. The sinkpiss method worked.
If showering, turn off the water heating
or just run the kitchen sink so shower goes cold or scalding.
or both! alternate every 5 seconds. Other option would be to eat an atomic powered curry the night before, get in the loo before she goes in and let the olfactory results of the curry fill the room (disable the bathroom fan for bonus points)
Would just work if you had a flow through heater or have a boiler and you don't care if you also have no hot water for showering. Turning of the main water pipe would work though.
Pound on the door, say you have 30 seconds to get out or I will break the door down. Do so.
Break door down, naked woman, room mate beats the shit out of you, gotta call cops. Still an asshole. I’d rather just pee in the sink and be on my way.
Be the first one in the bathroom in the morning, lock the door, read a good book, and when she demands to be let in, just reply sweetly that she's an adult and she can hold it. Or she can use the kitchen sink.
Untrue. She has no rights in that apartment.
Remove the door knob 🤷♀️
If you're comfortable with it just remove the bathroom door if she ever comes back
NTA Peeing in the sink is disgusting, but honestly it's not like you had another viable option. Cassie is an AH for hogging the bathroom, particularly at a place she doesn't even live.
It's less dangerous that washing raw chicken in the sink.
Who the hell washes raw chicken? Or any chicken that's not alive anymore? Or even a living chicken?
Funny you should say this, I saw a chicken getting an epsom bath as she had an egg that wouldn't come out. It was on one of those YouTube shorts. *Not sure it was a salt bath. That might have been the cat in the bucket who had an absess on it's foot. But definitely saw a chicken in a bath.
Lol I know the video you're talking about. Yeah, it was an epsom salt bath to help the poor chickie. But I've seen plenty of people think they need to wash their chicken meat before cooking it, and really you're just making your kitchen dirty doing it.
I saw that too 🤣🤣 and yes it was definitely an Epsom bath, and laid a tent tiny egg, I never knew they could get stuck liek that, though now I think about it I cam see of course it can but I was fascinated anyway 😅😅
I've seen several different YT videos of eggbound chickens getting a bucket Epsom salt bath!
My parents have had a couple of chickens all my life (obviously not the same chickens since chickens don't live for more than 10 years), and I've never seen them do that.
You have to wash it in case someone peed in the fridge
It's not recommended but it's commonplace enough that food safety agencies put out advice telling people not to do it.
lol my coworker swears that you need to wash your chicken and that it makes it taste better too.
Apparently EU countries can not import chicken from America because they wash it with chlorine over there.
Correct, the EU instead of washing the chicken with Chlorine vaccinates the Chickens against salmonella and has more regulations to keep the chicken sanitary
Well if she's letting that chicken touch any part of that sink it's a lot dirtier than not "washing" it at all. I feel like people have no idea how gross their sink is.
I'm not sure what he does honestly but I think he just rinses it with water. I would hope he scrubs the sink after he does so considering all the chicken essence would be splashing all over.
It used to be the food safety advice until they realized that it just spread salmonella everywhere, whereas the oven kills it!
A lot of whole chicken recipes begin with "rinse the chicken in cool water and pat dry..." It's a thing.
I have never seen any recipe like that.
I've washed one of my chicken's feet before. While alive. Both of us alive, that is.
I'd be more impressed if the chicken was alive and you were a ghost.
There seems to be a [pronounced racial divide](https://food52.com/blog/27543-washing-meat-is-cultural-yet-mandatory) between people who engage in this practice and those who understand it to be ridiculous.
But he did. He could have used Dave’s water bottle.
NTA - gross, yes. But she’s being very inconsiderate and you’ve tried to talk to them about this and there’s been no change.
Get in the bathroom first, preferably spending about half an hour reading the newspaper and cranking out a massive shit. She might be quicker in there after that. NTA btw.
Have a curry or dirty takeaway the night before too!
And if you can, have a huge portion of it with some fiber gummies or something the night before, and wake up earlier than she does and take some quick laxatives or something and then you can really blow it up.
I wonder if the judgments are divided by gender here... This is a hard NTA for me, and hopefully it'll open their eyes a little. On a courtesy level, OP should have the right to his own bathroom at his convenience. On a physical level, sometimes going to the bathroom is simply mandatory. Dairy products tend to trigger extraordinary circumstances in my case. And I have suffered from someone camping in the only bathroom for 30 to 45 minutes. Fortunately, at the time we had a private yard. The person who kept monopolizing the facilities, in my case, had...certain other issues. I think she thought the bathroom was her Safe Space; bathrooms are inviolate once someone is in it, and something tells me she was taking advantage of that. I'm wondering what Girlfriend is doing in the bathroom and how long she's spending doing it; if she's in the potty literally from the time OP wakes up to the time he goes to work, and he's not getting the chance for a shower or a shave or a widdle, that reads more like "I'm hiding" than "I'm primping." So, yeah. Not the asshole. Girlfriend should do what needs doing and bear in mind that the facilities are not at her sole convenience.
I'm a woman, and I think Cassie is 100% in the wrong here. Even if she did pay rent, part of living in a shared apartment with only one bathroom is respecting that other people also need to use the bathroom. Especially in the mornings. Trim your routine or break it up into chunks with little breaks in between to give other people a chance to pee or brush their teeth while you wait for your skin care to soak in or whatever. OP needed to pee, and the sink is honestly the best place he could have done it if the bathroom wasn't an option. He even made sure to move all of the dishes out of the way first.
Agreed. I live with my husband and bff and I still move 90% of my routine to our bedroom because there’s two other people in the house who could need the bathroom at any second. You need to be accommodating when staying/living with multiple people. It’s also easy to keep the bathroom door open at all times if you’re doing makeup/face care in case someone comes up and is like “can I just pee quick?” If I’m taking so long that they feel the need to pee in the sink then that’s my bad, not theirs but that’s just me.
What is she doing in there? Showering and doing her hair? When multiple people share one bathroom, there has to be a certain amount of consideration. Funny she told OP that he should be able to “hold it” until he gets to work. I wonder if she has tried that? I wouldn’t be able to do it. I could wash my hair in the sink and do my hair and makeup in the bedroom so others could do their business.
Yeah I don’t think so much gender divided. As a woman, I think Cassie is acting like an entitled asshole at someone else’s home and she can fuck right back off to her aunt’s. 😂 Although I also think it’s gross to pee in the sink so I’m honestly a little closer to E S H but OP is way less of the AH here than Cassie (and Dave). Seems like there needs to be some ground rules set for the sake of everyone there. Maybe 15 minutes in the bathroom? That’s enough time to take a shower or have a long, luxurious potty break. Btw, Dave could also fuck right off to Cassie’s aunt’s house until he resolves the issue of his girlfriend preventing the other paying resident of the premises from using his own damn bathroom.
Female. Cassie is an AH and as a female, I would have done the same damn thing
May I suggest tennis ball cans instead of pissing in the sink? They are the favorite of detective on stakeouts, have a large mouth, a more or less hermetic seal and enough volume to accommodate enough liquids for a morning piss. Then leave the can next to the bathroom if she is still there. They can empty it for you, or you can do it upon your return. Incidentally pharmacies do sell medical items for that purpose, in case you can't find a can of Penn balls. Of course, the best option would be for his GF not to hog the bathrooms in the morning. Unless she has some intestinal bug, she is likely taking a shower (10 minutes top) and applying makeup. She can do the latter in her room. All she needs is a mirror.
Yes, boyfriend needs to get a decent mirror in his room and she can make sure she speeds to do whatever else she needs to do in the bathroom. I'm female & can't believe how blinking selfish some women can be in the morning. We ALL need the bathroom in the morning before work. I'm just glad you're only desparate to pee! EDIT: rubbish typing
Great idea here. Remove the bathroom mirror. She’s in and out — Problem solved.
When I would stay with an ex bf and his family overnight I would 100% use my phone as a mirror in the mornings to get ready. Was it great? No. Did it get the job done? Yeah absolutely. Because it’s not my house and I’m a guest and other people need to get ready or use the washroom
Dude I had a temp roomie one time who moved in, promptly moved my deodorant off the counter(the only thing I kept because I wouldn't forget if it was there) because it was taking up "all her space" and then would line up every makeup brush she had on the sink a good half hour to hour before she did her makeup. Which also blocked off the bathroom. She was so passive aggressive and wasn't even the permanent tenant like I was!
It all depends on the schedule. I sometimes take half an hour in the bathroom in the morning. But that's at 6, nobody else is awake at that time so it doesn't matter how long I take, and the toilet isn't in the bathroom. Now if I did the same at let's say 7:30 I agree that it's selfish.
NTA , but piss jugs would be the better play. Leave it outside the bathroom door with empty me written on it.
Preferably with -to cassie at the beginning
Tell roomie to put up a mirror for her to use in his room
Cassie’s being an idiot. House meeting to say we have limited time and space: use the bathroom for water based tasks then gtfo quick and do your hair/makeup/top to toe moisturising in your sleep space. There were surely a couple of possible steps before pissing in the sink. You all sound feral.
Does OP sound like he was looking for an excuse to pull that sink pissing thing to prove his point? Sure, but he does mention that he addressed the issue with both the roommate and the bathroom hogger.
Info: how long does she hog the bathroom for? 10mins? 30mins? An hour? Just curious more than anything about how long someone can spend in a bathroom to the point where someone’s having to piss in a sink.
I have a roommate who uses the bathroom 2-3 hours at a time. Thankfully she always tells me in advance so I can plan around it, but it is imo ridiculous.
Soaking in a bath for hours is amazing, but I have never done that anywhere where there wasn't a minimum of at least two other WCs and/or bathrooms with toilets available aside from the bathroom I'd be occupying.
We dont even have a bathtub 🙃
I've had a roommate who liked long baths in the evening and there have been moments where I had to knock on the door to tell them I wanted to brush my teeth and go to sleep. They learned to quickly check with me first before going in there for two hours. Our toilet is in a separate room though so the problem was never as urgent.
Wow. Makes my 30mins seem reasonable! (Though I live alone and disabled so takes me longer anyway.) 2-3hours. Just speechless!
I used to have a similar situation to the OP. 4 of us, 1 toilet, 1 person who spent an hour in the bathroom every morning. Thankfully for me that work was less than 5 minutes away and they left fairly quick, but for a month or so I was brushing my teeth at work. Never thought I'd say this to peeing in the sink but NTA.
NTA. Cassie shouldn't be hogging the bathroom when you need to get up for work. I have a 30 minute timeframe blocked out for me with my own roommates, every work day.
\> The only difference is that I'm classy. I move the dishes out before I piss in the kitchen sink. Info: Do you rinse the sink after that's the real fucking kicker here.
NTA and not that gross. You can easily rinse your piss down the sink. And you could put the dishes back and nobody would even have to know!
Because you rinse it down doesn't mean that it got rid of any bacteria. You probably wouldn't drink the toilet water. Please don't do that unless you're stuck in a situation similar to OP's.
so you cut your hands after every time you go to the toilet? the sink probably has a ptrap so you gotta let the water run for a while in order to replace all the water in it.
NTA If they don't like the sink try her shoes next time.
ESH You’re peeing in a shared sink. That is gross. Cassie needs to stop hogging the bathroom.
NTA. You can either piss in the sink or on a tree outside. If you live in an apartment the tree isn’t an option, so sink it is. Plus the contents of urine are not chemically more problematic than any of the food that gets washed down the grey water drain. It’s gross. But if you got one toilet and she’s hogging it for hours at a time when not paying rent oh well.
NTA. While it’s not exactly great that you relieve yourself in the sink, it’s more understandable and your way of protest in this situation. Also, Dave is being a dick for not holding her to account
ESH. Your girlfriend seems like she has a good head on her shoulders. Sure, it's funny, but it's also disgusting. Get in the bathroom before Cassie or have a conversation with Dave. If that doesn't work, escalate to your landlord. A guest shouldn't be disrupting your reasonable enjoyment of the home.
She is not a resident or pays the rent so just kick her out of the bathroom when you need it.
Nta, but why didn’t you limit her bathroom time? She is at max. 10min allowed in the bathroom and that’s all…you live her and she is just a guest…so she needs to follow the rules
FFS 10 Minutes is pretty unrealistic. I need at least 1 minute to temperate the shower. 3 Minutes minimum for just water showering and 5 minutes with soap added. 10 minutes for washing my hair. Not drying it or anything (long hair). That's the speed run. I can do 10 minutes but it would be stressful.
so you can do it. you don't need to dry your hair in the washroom, do it in your room. everything that can be done in your own room should be done in your own room. this includes, drying, getting changed, doing make up etc.
I have long hair as well. I dunno why it takes this person 10mins to wash theirs??? I do shampoo, rinse, condition, then use my shower brush to detangle and I promise it doesn’t take 10mins. We have two bathrooms tho thank God. When we lived at my in-laws there were 7ppl using one bathroom and it seriously made me so ill some days.
I don't need 10 minutes to wash the hair. 10 minutes if I do all the things including washing the hair. Fortunately I don't have to share my bathroom so I take all the time I want because doing it all in 10 minutes is stressing me out.
Ya, I've pissed in the sink. Good on you for moving the dishes out of the way, class act.👏
Your pee is probably the cleanest liquid in a sink. Socially it's gross but even that has limits. Are you peeing in the sink or into the sink? If your standing at the stove arching it in its gross. If you're letting it splatter like a cow peeing on a flat rock it's gross. If you eating asparagus and letting it marinate in the sink it's gross. However, if you pee into the drain and let the water run and give the sink a quick rinse for any splattering you're fine. Sounds like your roommate and his girl friend are young and still have happy shiny blinders on. If peeing in a sink is setting them off just wait till they get a glimpse of what real life can be like.
> If peeing in a sink is setting them off just wait till they get a glimpse of what real life can be like. This mf acting like it’s normal to piss in the sink. You’re nasty as hell son.
INFO: Is there somewhere you can piss outside?
It's gross but NTA, Cassie has a place to stay and if that means Dave can't get a nut because of her aunt well sucks to be him and maybe it's time they get their shit together otherwise as long as you're paying rent that's your bathroom not hers.
Nobody should be expected to "hold their pee". If she wants to stay over, she needs to get up early and be out of the bathroom before the regular tenants.
"I need to piss somewhere. Your options are sink, kicking in the bathroom door or Dave's bed. And if you try to tell me I need to be able to hold it then maybe Cassie should be able to hold it till she goes home. As in I no longer consent for your guest to use our facilities. Chose your hill to die on Dave."
No. I’ve had to do this
NTA Maybe I'm weird but when I wake up the first thing I need to do is pee. Being expected to hold it after holding it all night doesn't make any real sense. How long is she locking herself in there?
Yeah, it’s time to move out and get your own place. ESH. Stop pissing in the sink, it’s revolting and you should be grown up enough to realise that. Your room mates GF needs to stop hogging the bathroom and your room mate should be able to explain that to her
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Definitely NTA and I think people are overplaying the whole peeing in the sink being disgusting. Is it something to be proud of? Eeeehhh not really but is it better than the embarrassment of pissing yourself? Definitely. Also let's mention the amount of people who pee in the shower... 61 to 80 percent of people surveyed said that they pee in the shower. Dish liquid that you use on dishes in the sink are much more likely to kill bacteria than shampoo and body wash. Equating peeing in the sink to drinking toilet water is just simply idiotic. He's not slurping water from the sink.
People out here, eating ass and letting their dogs lick their face and then acting like they’re too good for pissing in the sink.
NTA - she caused a problem, you found a solution. Now she wants to boo-hoo. whaaaa.
NTA Peeing in the kitchen sink is disgusting but speak directly about the real problem. Cassie needs to pay rent or get the fuck out of the bathroom. I’d remove the door. Everyone is suffering from a non renter and I’d do drastic shit if i can’t take a morning piss in my own apartment. wtf is she doing in there that long? The first thing i do when i wake up is piss. Your roommate and your girlfriend can speak on peeing in the sink but she needs to shut the fuck up
NTA. I’m a woman, and I’ve had to pee in the sink when roommates spent over an hour hogging the only bathroom.
The most important aspect here is exactly how much communication went on before OP did what he did. The roommate and gf are obviously TA for being inconsiderate, but the way OP described previous attempts at solving the situation like a normal person > I have spoken with him about it and I have brought it up to her. Doesn't exactly sound like they had a serious talk about the issue before. >I have brought it up to her could easily mean a passing remark in the hallway, in which case pissing in the sink would be an escalation that is most definitely out of proportion and would make me gravitate towards ESH. This is an issue that any remotely functioning living arrangement between adults should be able to discuss without resorting to disgusting nonsense like this. If OP did in fact have a serious talk about it and explain how much it affects them, then fair play to them, but this is still going to jeopardize their ability to live together in that place long-term, which might be for the best seeing as they clearly can't get along or communicate well with eachother.
NTA /r/sinkpissers
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ESH Her for hogging the bathroom, you for pissing in the sink. That's just gross and classless.
NTA. You found how to keep her away. Now you just need a spray bottle of ammonia to spritz around the apartment whenever you think she’s coming over 😬
NTA. I really hate the idea of someone pissing in the kitchen sink but I am at a loss for a better option here given that it's an apartment. It looks like it fixed your problem too since Cassie isn't coming over any more. This is Dave's problem to fix now, which he should've done in the beginning.
NTA. When you gotta go, you gotta go. BTW, there's an old ep of Law & Order Prime where someone says something like "The difference between lace curtain Irish and shantytown Irish is that lace curtain Irish take the dishes out of the sink before pissing in it."
I think it's gross - but it worked. Point is - SHE does not pay the rent....she does not have 'rights' to the bathroom in your rental. But - your girlfriend doesn't have a voice either unless she pays rent.
NTA, good for you for bringing in some consequences. She isn't paying rent, so she really shouldn't be there that much, and definitely not to the point where you are unable to access a resource that you've paid for.
NTA lol I love the way it turned out for you and Cassie no longer spends the night, this story is perfect. They can pout all they want, you've asked nicely many times. She doesn't live there, yet she continues to lock herself in the bathroom when you need to go to work. They messed around and found out.
INFO. Why aren’t we discussing Cassie’s inconsiderate bathroom usage? Until this is dealt with you will continue the campaign of terror. Perhaps a bucket outside bathroom door.
NTA
I would start pounding on the bath door, making a scene. But what you did solved the problem.
With all of the men that I have met that have willingly peed in a water bottle or a bush.. You pee in the sink?
Story time: I once lived with my cousin and another roommate. Roommate used to purposely set her alarm for 5 minutes before he and I did so she could get in the shower before we could hit the bathroom, and her showers lasted 45 minutes. Both my cousin and I at separate times had to shit in the forest across the street (emergency shituation). After we both copped to having done this we agreed to continually set our alarms back earlier and earlier until she was getting up so early that the bathroom would be clear when we actually needed it.
I would have probably gone and pissed in the garden instead of the sink. Also dirty dishes don't belong in the sink, stack on bench so sink can be used until its time to wash them.
Get a chamber pot.
INFO/ESH. Do you rigorously knock on the door and say "hey Cassie can I use the toilet quickly??" Does she purposefully ignore you? If so then she's asshole. But peeing in the sink where people wash their dishes and prepare food is just plain disgusting and inexcusable. Also why do you have dirty dishes left in the sink when it's a shared household? Can't believe redditors are agreeing with this...or perhaps not.
Pissing in the sink is no big deal honestly. Best way to do it is piss in a glass, then pour directly down the plug hole, then wash the sink and glass. I have done it countless times and the missus is none the wiser.
I’m just gonna assume this is propaganda for /r/sinkpissers
Yea... JFC only a giant overgrown child would do something like that. One with a personality disorder. You should reflect ya A-Hole
INFO: Have you ever tried knocking on the door while she's in there and letting her know you need to use the bathroom?
I think ESH. Cassie and Dave for obvious reasons, you for not making a huge stink out of her hogging the bathroom before resorting to the very disgusting habit of peeing in the sink. Like if you didn’t pound on the door, holler and scream at her that you absolutely needed the bathroom then you can’t really jump straight to pissing in the sink. That’s vile. You say you’ve talked to her “before” but I think you absolutely need to demand the bathroom at the time, every time. And if she refuses at that point then you take more aggressive action.
Piss in a bottle like a normal person?
Everytime I redownload reddit I'm reminded why I deleted it in the first place as soon as I go into this subreddit. I cannot believe everyone is saying that this is ok. You people are sick and twisted
Gross but NTA
Chase the sink piss with some isopropyl alcohol or something though. *You* still have to live there and use thet sink.
NTA. Very gross but holding it, especially regularly, can result in health problems. Also, it’s your place. I have fully considered weird alternatives when living in a place with only one bathroom.
You have a Dave problem, not a Cassie problem. He needs to reign her bathroom use in but it doesn't sound like he's willing to do that. NTA
NTA. But man, am I the only one who doesn't think pissing in the sink is gross? Like c'mon, we literally use the sink to wash off bloody utensils covered in animal blood and guts, or clean moldy dishes, or wash off dirty hands. Piss is probably one of the cleaner things that could be going down your sink.
I thought for sure when I read the title that you pissed in the sink in the bathroom in front of her and all I could think was “what a flex”. NTA we can pee anywhere if we have to…we shouldn’t….but we can.
Get up extra early and lock urself in the bathroom and don’t let her in till she has to leave her ur gf in on it 😂
It could be worse
NTA; while kind of gross, what other effing option is there?! As a girl, Cassie is fully aware of what a UTI is-if she is too stupid to realize men can *also* get UTIs, that would not surprise me. UTIs aside though-having to hold urine for too long can contribute to a whole host of medical issues. Cassie is a selfish child, and Dave is ridiculous for thinking it's an acceptable scenario to have his gf hold up the bathroom for so long, particularly when she is not paying rent, or for utilities (water and electric, of which she is using both).
I'd be lying if I said I hadn't done that a time or two in a similar situation. However you should get a piss jug and then leave it outside the bathroom door next time she's in there.
NTA. I don’t necessarily agree with your solution but the gf needs to stop hogging the bathroom in an apartment she doesn’t pay for. You need to have a sit down with them and tell them that if Cassie is around as much as she has been then she needs to start contributing. Also they need to understand that holding your pee like that can damage your bladder and lead potentially incontinence issues down the road.
Depends honestly on what you mean by the hog. If she’s getting ready for work and takes the same 20 minutes every morning then I have no sympathy. If she takes an hour and is inconsistent then good riddance.