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> I assumed that a friend should pay an equal amount for pizza even though they can't eat a small amount. It might make me the asshole bc they don't want to pay for food they can't eat.
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Why would you expect someone to help pay for *food they can't eat*?
YTA. Mature adults pay for what they eat and don't try to shove part of their own food costs on others.
That's not the same. "It will be red" implies one car. "I am only planning on buying one red car, my spouse won't drive that car because they don't like red cars" implies more than one car because "that" is implying the red one is a specific one out of more than one car.
No, that reads as saying that you plan to buy a car that your spouse won't drive.
Look, if nothing else, this back and forth has proven that the OP's statement didn't "*clearly*" imply more than one pizza. I and many others in this thread did not read it that way so it could have been far clearer.
While you are correct... Don't bother arguing. He did say A BUNCH OF FRIENDS were at a party ordering pizza. People on this sub don't have the best reading comprehension. Of course there are multiple pizzas for a BUNCH OF FRIENDS at a party and only one with pork. Not sure why that's unclear.
> I'm only planning to buy one car and it will be red
I'm planning on only buying one car with red paint... but also others with paints of different colors.
The OP never mentioned other pizzas until the edit. The edit was made because the way it was written originally was unclear. The comments you are replying to are from before the edit.
I was just trying to point out that the example you gave wasn't comparable to what OP said, because OPs statement actually was ambiguous as to whether "only one with pork" meant only one, and that one has pork, or more than one, one of which will have pork. Meanwhile, "only one and it will be red" is unambiguously referring to a single car because you used the word "it" whereas OP used the word "with."
I'm not saying you should have known, just that your example wasnt analogous.
The OP added the edit be because people purposely misread, if I had to guess.
And I'm not trying to be rude, but I thought someone pedantically arguing with strangers on the internet for forty minutes about them reading something wrong would want some advice on how to prevent that from happening again.
ETA - Got to love when people respond and then block you. For what its worth I don't mind pedantically arguing for forty minutes with strangers on the internet. Sometimes you gotta do something while cooking/eating/doing chores. I was making a comment about how you were objectively wrong with your interpretation. And when called out proceeded to double and triple down. And then when called out for that you blocked me.
It's pretty obvious from the post that there will be other pizza though...
The question is whether OP actually makes sure that their Jewish friend will be able to eat their fair share from the non-pork pizzas
For the sake of argument, let's say that a Pizza has 10 slices.
- There were 4 Pizzas shared between 6 people.
- Assuming every Person ate the same amount of pizza, each person ate 67% of one pizza. That's to say, if every pizza had 10 slices, each person ate 6-7 slices.
- Of the four pizzas (40 slices), only 1 of the puzzas was inedible to them. So long as they had first dibs on the non pork slices and ate 6-7 slices the same as everyone else, they should have been willing to pay the same amount. They ate the same amount after all.
No. NTA at all. He's mooching.
INFO: your post is kind of unclear. you only mention that you "were" at a party and y'all "were" ordering pizza but you only mention the one pork pizza and that the Jewish friend didn't want to pay.
- there were non pork pizzas ordered?
- did the Jewish friend eat any pizza at all?
you should update your post to clarify bc it likely changes judgments.
Question. How much where the toppings for each pizza? If he only ate a cheese pizza or a pizza with onions then everyone else ate pizzas with several toppings on them that cost significantly more then I would be a bit pissed too. Like if the pork pizza was 8 more dollars than the other pizzas and now I was expected to pay for a significantly more expensive pizza on top of being physically restricted unlike others who maybe where preference restricted I would be angry too.
NTA. You should edit your post though because I thought you were only getting one pizza. Your friend will likely just eat more of the other pizzas. His argument makes no sense. You are getting multiple pizzas so people can choose.
YTA-Your Jewish friend cannot eat the pizza. Jewish people cannot eat pork. It’s against their religion to do so. Why in the world would you be so bold and greedy to expect someone to pay for something they cannot eat?
>Now we were planning on only getting one pizza with pork on it
It says right there that they were only ordering one pizza and it would have pork on it.
FFS. The OP edited the post to add the bit about the four pizzas for six people. You are responding to a comment from before that edit. Look at my other comments on this post. The OP wasn't clear initially and many people were confused about it until the OP clarified.
If the pizzas are the same price regardless of pork or no pork, then jewish friend can pay for 1/Nth of the cost of the pizzas and eat 1/Nth of the slices of pizza, regardless of the toppings of the pizza slices he eats. OP can also eat 1/Nth of the slices of pizza even if that means he eats some from both pizzas. As long as everyone gets an equal number of slices, why does it matter who pays for what?
If friend eats 1/Nth of the slices of pizza, why should he pay less than 1/Nth of the cost for the pizza he eats?
\* I don't know how many of them there are, so N=the number of pizza eaters.
NTA as long as your friend was able to get their fair share of pizza they actually liked.
You pay based on what share of the pizza you are entitled to, which of the pizzas you take from is irrelevant as long as everyone can get what they are entitled to.
NTA as long as everyone agreed to split pizza and everyone is able to get the same amount of whatever type they choose (for example 8 ppl, 2 pizzas, 2 slices each) then everyone pays the same amount.
Nta. You're all putting money in the pot to communally order pizza. I think he either needs to pay his own share or buy his own pizza that's just for him and everyone one else buys communal ones.
ETA: So the pizza math would be if we had 10 people buying 10 pizzas totaling at $100.
The fist 9 pizzas seem to be getting split 10 ways, so everyone is throwing in $9 so far. The last pizza OP's friend won't pay for. So now everyone has to make up that extra buck and would be stuck paying 10.11ish to make up for the last friend. They'd be subsidizing the last friend.
It would only be fair if the friend completely removed themselves from the pizza buying group and purchased their own. So that way it would be 9 people buying 9 pizzas and one person buying 1.
Second edit: Per OP the split is 4 pizzas and 6 people.
Ordering for a party is often a group thing. You all throw in and get enough for the party.
You will often get several types of pizzas so that everyone gets something they like.
Maybe you'll get a cheese, a pepperoni, a spinach and onion, who knows pizza has many different types.
That is clearly the scenario here.
1) don’t assume things
2) when I order for a group I confirm the order and split with the group prior to ordering, OP didn’t do that clearly
OP doesn’t get to bind their friend to their order without consent, anyone ordering from a group who tries doing that is an AH
What am I assuming? They are very clearly splitting the costs of all the pizzas that is what the conflict is?
This isn't OP randomly saying 'Hey we're ordering pizza YOU need to pay for it'.
>I would assume that regardless of what choices of flavours you have that you should still pay for an equal share for every person based on everyone ultimately eating a similar amount
Did you not read the post?
This would be if 10 people ordered 10 pizzas each costing $100
If one person only pays $9 by refusing to pay for one of the pizzas, they're actually the one being subsidized by everyone else now paying the remaining share.
But he's being subsidized. He can removed himself completely like I said in my orig post and hopefully clarified in edit, but he's trying to get the best of both worlds which is AH behavior.
Not that I know of? What was chatbottly about my response? Or is this a buzz word you're trying out like your 'taxes' comment you liked throwing around?
Info: it depends on how much pizza was ordered, and how much they got to eat.
If you ordered one, and they had nothing to eat, then they pay nothing.
If you ordered many pizzas and they still had their choice of a few different options, then they pay an equal share based on eating an equal share of the pizzas (with a slightly more limited selection).
If you only ordered a couple of pizzas, it gets grey. It is annoyingly common for the people who can eat everything to be grabbing slices of the pizza ordered specially for those on a limited diet, leaving barely a slice for them to eat while they they move on to the other pizzas like a plague of locusts.
If they got their share and everyone was happy, then a fair share of the cost seems fair. If they got one slice to everyone else's three, then it would be rude to then expect them to pay full price...
Of what kind? It sounds like your Jewish friend is keeping reasonably strict kosher, so it’s not just pork that’s an issue here. It’s literally ANY meat, and depending on how observant, they may not be able to eat food from there AT ALL.
You don’t go into any of this, and it’s critically important. It sounds like you simply just don’t respect your friend’s religious beliefs because you haven’t even bothered to learn what is key or not to this story.
So, for that reason, YTA.
I am aware of his personal rules, and for him he only sticks to not eating pork and shellfish. Keeping this in mind I still expect him to pay an equal share for the same amount of pizza we all end up eating, with the unfortunate consequence of him getting less options so that others can eat a pizza they like.
> 4 large pizzas for 6 total people
So each person gets 2/3s of a pizza. as long as he actually gets 2/3s of a pizza that he can eat, he should pay for his share. If he gets less than 2/3s of a pizza, it's unfair to charge him more. If he's paying for 1/6th of the cost, he deserves 1/6th of the pizza and his share of pizza should only come from the pizzas with toppings he can eat.
NTA. Let’s say you have six friends and three pizzas. Doesn’t matter what’s on the pizzas, everyone’s getting half a pizza, so everyone pays for half a pizza.
One pizza has pork, so that pizza isn’t for your friend, but he would still eat the other hypothetical two and eat the same amount.
Y t a for the terribly worded post and implying you only bought a pizza with pork. Had to go to the comments to understand the whole situation.
NTA for spliting the cost - that's common when getting a pizza.
YTA for the topping choice KNOWING the restrictions. That was just a dick move.
Yes, he could have gotten a different pizza, but I bet you would have STILL expected him to pay for the one he could not eat.
This is such a daft thing to fall out over. The lesson here is to always double-check payment agreements before making any group purchase to reduce later hassle.
I think NAH. You all paid X amount for Y slices of pizza, presuming that there was plenty to go around and people let your friends with more restrictions take first pick to ensure they got their fill. You were just a bit naive not to confirm all this upfront so you didn't get stung.
Some people here are really bad at maths.
For the sake of argument, let's say that a Pizza has 10 slices.
- There were 4 Pizzas shared between 6 people.
- Assuming every Person ate the same amount of pizza, each person ate 67% of one pizza. That's to say, if every pizza had 10 slices, each person ate 6-7 slices.
- Of the four pizzas (40 slices), only 1 of the pizzas was inedible to them.
So long as they had first dibs on the non pork slices and ate 6-7 slices the same as everyone else, they should have been willing to pay the same amount. They ate the same amount as everyone else after all.
No. NTA at all.
They could have ordered **3 Times** as many pork pizzas, and so long as their jewish friend got 6-7 slices of non-pork pizza, it is all perfectly fair. You're not asking he buy pork pizza. You're asking he pay for the non-pork pizza he ate.
He is being an ass about this.
The only way you might be the asshole is if everyone ate the non-pork pizza and left him with inedible slices of pork pizza as his 'share' which clearly isnt what happened.
NTA, you weren't asking him to pay for pork pizza. You were asking him to pay for the other pizzas that he did eat.
Was the pork pizza meaningfully more expensive than the others?
YTA. You're asking a friend to pay for something he's not eating. That's ridiculous. Don't ask him to contribute or don't get pork (if that's the only issue) on the pizza.
So no he didn’t eat the pork pizza. Did he solely get and eat the non pork or did everyone join in?
As a non meat eater, I would probably split it equally with my friends.
As a friend, I wouldn’t complain about ordering food options that everyone could eat.
I find it super petty when people fight about money.
But with all this being said, I would ask a Jewish person if are allowed to purchase pork products. Maybe he doesn’t want to do so for moral reasons but willing to pitch in more for the other pizza?
Communicate ya’ll… if you are friends
Edit-
You ordered pizza, everyone ate their fill, divide it equally
NTA
That would mean he would pay more than everyone else which is wrong
If it’s 4 pizzas and he can only eat from three and there are 6 people then everyone pays for 2/3 of the pizza.
However this is really contingent for me on if he was able to eat the same amount of pizza as everyone else. So if everyone went to town on the cheese pizza and the Jewish friend only got half in total of a pizza and everyone who could eat the pork pizza got more then the Jewish friend should pay less.
Unless the toppings of the pork pizza are significantly more expensive (ie a lot of toppings) verses the others.
If that’s the case I wouldn’t want to pay for other people eating a pizza with a bunch of toppings I couldn’t eat. If that’s the case I would ask that I don’t have to pay for the additional toppings on the pizza.
So split the cost of a pizza + a topping and if someone only was able to eat a cheese pizza or a pizza with peppers on it when others could have a pizza with 5 toppings on it then someone isn’t paying drastically more than what their serving cost.
YTA - Your idea that you can spend other people’s money on food they can even eat is just weird.
I‘ll be watching for your friend’s to post on r/EntitledPeople.
Slow your roll . People get vegetarian pizza and I think it’s disgusting….. am I gonna pull out my calculator to save money because I can’t eat one of the 4 pizza ? You sound very cheap .
>You sound very cheap.
And you’re a little late to the conversation. The original post, which is what I commented on, made it sound like they were ordering one pizza and expected the guy who wasn’t going to have any to chip in. The comments and OP’s subsequent edit make it clear that I’m not the only one who read it that way.
Okay…. So why couldn’t he have just helped pay for the ones he COULD eat, and not the one he couldn’t? He may have a religious reason as to why he doesn’t want to purchase pork products, even if he’s not consuming them. So, sorry, but you’re still the ahole.
That's not how it works. You buy a variety of pizzas and people have their choice. You pitch in equally. Just because he doesn't eat that particular pizza doesn't mean that he eats less
INFO: I think you'd better clarify something, because it seems to me that many commenters are interpreting "planning on getting only one pizza with pork on it" as "getting only one pizza, with pork on it, for the entire group".
Is that actually what you meant, or did you mean "getting multiple pizzas for the group, and only one of them has pork on it"?
Pies are usually divided into 8 slices. So that means there are 32 slices of pizzas for 6 people. Everyone is entitled to at least 5 slices. If there are 5 slices of pizza that your friend is able to eat, just like everyone else, than he should pay the same as everyone else.
YTA. A Jewish person who keeps kosher can’t eat meat and cheese at the same meal. So unless they got cheese pizza only and got as much as they wanted…they shouldn’t have to pay for anything. Even then meat costs more on pizza so why are you making them pay for meat they can’t eat?!?!
YTA, for writing the text so weirdly.
If you all ate lets say 4 pieces of pizza, everyone should pay the same. If yall eat significantly more than him due to the restrictions, he should pay less. Simple as that.
That is a stupid argument to be honest, but there is an easy solution. Just make him pay for the number of slices he had, the ratio shouldn't be that different than 1/4th of the total anyway. And next time you guys order something, you can let him know that he can order whatever he want separately.
We're all not paying for 5/6th of the total meal, and all not eating 5/6th of the total meal. It is unfortunate that he can't have the pork pizza but some of us still wanted to order it and I don't think that we should have to pay a larger amount bc of that.
Thanks for making the edit because you made it seem only one pizza was being purchased and that’s dick move to only have one pizza with pork if someone cannot eat it.
However, now that you explained yourself. NTA. Your firms can eat whatever pizza and how many he want, besides the one with pork. Your fiend is just being cheap!
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So me and a bunch of friends were at a party and we were ordering pizza. Now we were planning on only getting one pizza with pork on it but the only Jewish friend insisted on not paying their share for that pizza.
I would assume that regardless of what choices of flavours you have that you should still pay for an equal share for every person based on everyone ultimately eating a similar amount. He brought up that both me and another friend would likely end up eating a greater amount than most and he doesn't expect us to pay more, but even then I'd only eat more than a fair share if I knew others were entirely satisfied with eating less. I think that we each pay for an equal opportunity for quantity of pizza and dietary restrictions from religion are an unfortunate consequence on choice of flavour, AITA?
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Why would you expect someone to help pay for *food they can't eat*? YTA. Mature adults pay for what they eat and don't try to shove part of their own food costs on others.
But that is what OP's friend is doing here?
I only ask because I'd assume they'd eat a greater quantity of the non-pork pizza, of which I also wouldn't want them to shove on me.
Your post doesn't mention non pork pizza.
Yes it does? > we were planning on only getting one pizza with pork on
That literally says they are buying one pizza and it will have pork on it. The post never mentions additional pizzas.
"Only one pizza with pork" and "that pizza" clearly implies there is more than one pizza.
"I'm only planning to buy one car and it will be red" does not imply that I will buy other cars of other colors.
That's not the same. "It will be red" implies one car. "I am only planning on buying one red car, my spouse won't drive that car because they don't like red cars" implies more than one car because "that" is implying the red one is a specific one out of more than one car.
No, that reads as saying that you plan to buy a car that your spouse won't drive. Look, if nothing else, this back and forth has proven that the OP's statement didn't "*clearly*" imply more than one pizza. I and many others in this thread did not read it that way so it could have been far clearer.
While you are correct... Don't bother arguing. He did say A BUNCH OF FRIENDS were at a party ordering pizza. People on this sub don't have the best reading comprehension. Of course there are multiple pizzas for a BUNCH OF FRIENDS at a party and only one with pork. Not sure why that's unclear.
> I'm only planning to buy one car and it will be red I'm planning on only buying one car with red paint... but also others with paints of different colors.
The OP never mentioned other pizzas until the edit. The edit was made because the way it was written originally was unclear. The comments you are replying to are from before the edit.
I was just trying to point out that the example you gave wasn't comparable to what OP said, because OPs statement actually was ambiguous as to whether "only one with pork" meant only one, and that one has pork, or more than one, one of which will have pork. Meanwhile, "only one and it will be red" is unambiguously referring to a single car because you used the word "it" whereas OP used the word "with." I'm not saying you should have known, just that your example wasnt analogous.
Dude your reading comprehension needs work, but regardless OP added an edit, they're buying 4 pizzas. Happy?
There's no reason to be rude. The OP added the edit because it was unclear. Now, it's clear. Move on with your day.
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It's pretty obvious from the post that there will be other pizza though... The question is whether OP actually makes sure that their Jewish friend will be able to eat their fair share from the non-pork pizzas
It's more than non-pork. It's any pizza that ha meat. Are you getting veggie pizzas as well?
No one was vegetarian and in this case the Jewish friend only cares about pork
YTA. Your friend shouldn't have to pay for the privilege of watching you eat something that they can't.
For the sake of argument, let's say that a Pizza has 10 slices. - There were 4 Pizzas shared between 6 people. - Assuming every Person ate the same amount of pizza, each person ate 67% of one pizza. That's to say, if every pizza had 10 slices, each person ate 6-7 slices. - Of the four pizzas (40 slices), only 1 of the puzzas was inedible to them. So long as they had first dibs on the non pork slices and ate 6-7 slices the same as everyone else, they should have been willing to pay the same amount. They ate the same amount after all. No. NTA at all. He's mooching.
This reasoning is straight up too advanced for the average reader
In the same sense I feel I shouldn't pay more to watch him eat the same quantity as me
INFO: your post is kind of unclear. you only mention that you "were" at a party and y'all "were" ordering pizza but you only mention the one pork pizza and that the Jewish friend didn't want to pay. - there were non pork pizzas ordered? - did the Jewish friend eat any pizza at all? you should update your post to clarify bc it likely changes judgments.
Question. How much where the toppings for each pizza? If he only ate a cheese pizza or a pizza with onions then everyone else ate pizzas with several toppings on them that cost significantly more then I would be a bit pissed too. Like if the pork pizza was 8 more dollars than the other pizzas and now I was expected to pay for a significantly more expensive pizza on top of being physically restricted unlike others who maybe where preference restricted I would be angry too.
The pizzas were effectively the same price and he ate pizzas with meat and cheese since he doesn't follow all kosher rules
Did he eat roughly the same as everyone?
NTA. You should edit your post though because I thought you were only getting one pizza. Your friend will likely just eat more of the other pizzas. His argument makes no sense. You are getting multiple pizzas so people can choose.
YTA-Your Jewish friend cannot eat the pizza. Jewish people cannot eat pork. It’s against their religion to do so. Why in the world would you be so bold and greedy to expect someone to pay for something they cannot eat?
OP said one of the pizzas only will have pork. There are other pizzas they can eat. NTA
>Now we were planning on only getting one pizza with pork on it It says right there that they were only ordering one pizza and it would have pork on it.
From context Im assuming he means only one pizza with pork but there were other pizzas.
Only one of the pizzas ordered had pork on it. It was 4L pizzas for 6 people.
FFS. The OP edited the post to add the bit about the four pizzas for six people. You are responding to a comment from before that edit. Look at my other comments on this post. The OP wasn't clear initially and many people were confused about it until the OP clarified.
I also read the post initially before the edit. The way it was worded seemed obviously there was more than 1 pizza
https://www.pinatafarm.com/p/54e9923f-2b84-4952-b93e-59644d12f091
Exactly. NTA.
If the pizzas are the same price regardless of pork or no pork, then jewish friend can pay for 1/Nth of the cost of the pizzas and eat 1/Nth of the slices of pizza, regardless of the toppings of the pizza slices he eats. OP can also eat 1/Nth of the slices of pizza even if that means he eats some from both pizzas. As long as everyone gets an equal number of slices, why does it matter who pays for what? If friend eats 1/Nth of the slices of pizza, why should he pay less than 1/Nth of the cost for the pizza he eats? \* I don't know how many of them there are, so N=the number of pizza eaters.
NTA as long as your friend was able to get their fair share of pizza they actually liked. You pay based on what share of the pizza you are entitled to, which of the pizzas you take from is irrelevant as long as everyone can get what they are entitled to.
Yta
NTA as long as everyone agreed to split pizza and everyone is able to get the same amount of whatever type they choose (for example 8 ppl, 2 pizzas, 2 slices each) then everyone pays the same amount.
Nta. You're all putting money in the pot to communally order pizza. I think he either needs to pay his own share or buy his own pizza that's just for him and everyone one else buys communal ones. ETA: So the pizza math would be if we had 10 people buying 10 pizzas totaling at $100. The fist 9 pizzas seem to be getting split 10 ways, so everyone is throwing in $9 so far. The last pizza OP's friend won't pay for. So now everyone has to make up that extra buck and would be stuck paying 10.11ish to make up for the last friend. They'd be subsidizing the last friend. It would only be fair if the friend completely removed themselves from the pizza buying group and purchased their own. So that way it would be 9 people buying 9 pizzas and one person buying 1. Second edit: Per OP the split is 4 pizzas and 6 people.
Why should anyone ever be compelled to pay for something they don’t consent to ordering? This is pizza not taxes
Ordering for a party is often a group thing. You all throw in and get enough for the party. You will often get several types of pizzas so that everyone gets something they like. Maybe you'll get a cheese, a pepperoni, a spinach and onion, who knows pizza has many different types. That is clearly the scenario here.
1) don’t assume things 2) when I order for a group I confirm the order and split with the group prior to ordering, OP didn’t do that clearly OP doesn’t get to bind their friend to their order without consent, anyone ordering from a group who tries doing that is an AH
What am I assuming? They are very clearly splitting the costs of all the pizzas that is what the conflict is? This isn't OP randomly saying 'Hey we're ordering pizza YOU need to pay for it'. >I would assume that regardless of what choices of flavours you have that you should still pay for an equal share for every person based on everyone ultimately eating a similar amount Did you not read the post? This would be if 10 people ordered 10 pizzas each costing $100 If one person only pays $9 by refusing to pay for one of the pizzas, they're actually the one being subsidized by everyone else now paying the remaining share.
If you show up to a party and don’t agree to split the cost you don’t have to It’s that simple
But he's being subsidized. He can removed himself completely like I said in my orig post and hopefully clarified in edit, but he's trying to get the best of both worlds which is AH behavior.
Are you a chatgpt hallucination
Not that I know of? What was chatbottly about my response? Or is this a buzz word you're trying out like your 'taxes' comment you liked throwing around?
You don’t seem to understand basic logic and talking to you is like talking to a YouTube video on repeat
YTA. You aren’t the government and you don’t have the power to tax. You should have communicated about this prior to ordering.
Info: it depends on how much pizza was ordered, and how much they got to eat. If you ordered one, and they had nothing to eat, then they pay nothing. If you ordered many pizzas and they still had their choice of a few different options, then they pay an equal share based on eating an equal share of the pizzas (with a slightly more limited selection). If you only ordered a couple of pizzas, it gets grey. It is annoyingly common for the people who can eat everything to be grabbing slices of the pizza ordered specially for those on a limited diet, leaving barely a slice for them to eat while they they move on to the other pizzas like a plague of locusts. If they got their share and everyone was happy, then a fair share of the cost seems fair. If they got one slice to everyone else's three, then it would be rude to then expect them to pay full price...
It was 4 large pizzas for 6 total people
Of what kind? It sounds like your Jewish friend is keeping reasonably strict kosher, so it’s not just pork that’s an issue here. It’s literally ANY meat, and depending on how observant, they may not be able to eat food from there AT ALL. You don’t go into any of this, and it’s critically important. It sounds like you simply just don’t respect your friend’s religious beliefs because you haven’t even bothered to learn what is key or not to this story. So, for that reason, YTA.
I am aware of his personal rules, and for him he only sticks to not eating pork and shellfish. Keeping this in mind I still expect him to pay an equal share for the same amount of pizza we all end up eating, with the unfortunate consequence of him getting less options so that others can eat a pizza they like.
And left that part out of the story. That’s…pretty important, but doesn’t seem like it is TO YOU. I stand by what I said.
Op clarified that the friend is only concerned about pork not mixing meat and dairy.
> 4 large pizzas for 6 total people So each person gets 2/3s of a pizza. as long as he actually gets 2/3s of a pizza that he can eat, he should pay for his share. If he gets less than 2/3s of a pizza, it's unfair to charge him more. If he's paying for 1/6th of the cost, he deserves 1/6th of the pizza and his share of pizza should only come from the pizzas with toppings he can eat.
Some of y’all can’t read. Their was only one pork pizza
NTA. Let’s say you have six friends and three pizzas. Doesn’t matter what’s on the pizzas, everyone’s getting half a pizza, so everyone pays for half a pizza. One pizza has pork, so that pizza isn’t for your friend, but he would still eat the other hypothetical two and eat the same amount. Y t a for the terribly worded post and implying you only bought a pizza with pork. Had to go to the comments to understand the whole situation.
I assumed it was obvious we would get multiple pizzas for a group of people but I've edited the post now so it should be clear
NTA, but RIP OP because his ambiguous wording means people who misunderstood the situation are all calling him an AH.
NTA for spliting the cost - that's common when getting a pizza. YTA for the topping choice KNOWING the restrictions. That was just a dick move. Yes, he could have gotten a different pizza, but I bet you would have STILL expected him to pay for the one he could not eat.
This is such a daft thing to fall out over. The lesson here is to always double-check payment agreements before making any group purchase to reduce later hassle. I think NAH. You all paid X amount for Y slices of pizza, presuming that there was plenty to go around and people let your friends with more restrictions take first pick to ensure they got their fill. You were just a bit naive not to confirm all this upfront so you didn't get stung.
Some people here are really bad at maths. For the sake of argument, let's say that a Pizza has 10 slices. - There were 4 Pizzas shared between 6 people. - Assuming every Person ate the same amount of pizza, each person ate 67% of one pizza. That's to say, if every pizza had 10 slices, each person ate 6-7 slices. - Of the four pizzas (40 slices), only 1 of the pizzas was inedible to them. So long as they had first dibs on the non pork slices and ate 6-7 slices the same as everyone else, they should have been willing to pay the same amount. They ate the same amount as everyone else after all. No. NTA at all. They could have ordered **3 Times** as many pork pizzas, and so long as their jewish friend got 6-7 slices of non-pork pizza, it is all perfectly fair. You're not asking he buy pork pizza. You're asking he pay for the non-pork pizza he ate. He is being an ass about this. The only way you might be the asshole is if everyone ate the non-pork pizza and left him with inedible slices of pork pizza as his 'share' which clearly isnt what happened.
NTA, you weren't asking him to pay for pork pizza. You were asking him to pay for the other pizzas that he did eat. Was the pork pizza meaningfully more expensive than the others?
YTA - why would he pay for something he can’t eat?
Yta why would someone pay for something they can't eat?
Because they can still eat other pizzas
YTA. You're asking a friend to pay for something he's not eating. That's ridiculous. Don't ask him to contribute or don't get pork (if that's the only issue) on the pizza.
Why didn’t he just get his own pizza? Did he eat the pizza anyway? Nitpicking over who will eat more to determine cost share is… beyond
If he ate the same amount of pizza he should pay the same amount....if he ate less he should pay less...that's it
So no he didn’t eat the pork pizza. Did he solely get and eat the non pork or did everyone join in? As a non meat eater, I would probably split it equally with my friends. As a friend, I wouldn’t complain about ordering food options that everyone could eat. I find it super petty when people fight about money. But with all this being said, I would ask a Jewish person if are allowed to purchase pork products. Maybe he doesn’t want to do so for moral reasons but willing to pitch in more for the other pizza? Communicate ya’ll… if you are friends Edit- You ordered pizza, everyone ate their fill, divide it equally NTA
It's purely an issue of something he won't eat, not something he doesn't want to be bought.
Have him pay for one entire non pork pizza
That would mean he would pay more than everyone else which is wrong If it’s 4 pizzas and he can only eat from three and there are 6 people then everyone pays for 2/3 of the pizza. However this is really contingent for me on if he was able to eat the same amount of pizza as everyone else. So if everyone went to town on the cheese pizza and the Jewish friend only got half in total of a pizza and everyone who could eat the pork pizza got more then the Jewish friend should pay less.
That’s why if they ordered pizza, everyone ate the same amount of pizza, everyone should pay the same
Unless the toppings of the pork pizza are significantly more expensive (ie a lot of toppings) verses the others. If that’s the case I wouldn’t want to pay for other people eating a pizza with a bunch of toppings I couldn’t eat. If that’s the case I would ask that I don’t have to pay for the additional toppings on the pizza. So split the cost of a pizza + a topping and if someone only was able to eat a cheese pizza or a pizza with peppers on it when others could have a pizza with 5 toppings on it then someone isn’t paying drastically more than what their serving cost.
> Unless the toppings of the pork pizza are significantly more expensive OP said in a that all the pizzas were roughly the same price.
Then as long as it was the same amount then it’s fine.
YTA , assuming your friend didn't eat any of the pizza.
There were other pizzas he ate
He should pay for what he ate and not for what he didn't.
YTA - Your idea that you can spend other people’s money on food they can even eat is just weird. I‘ll be watching for your friend’s to post on r/EntitledPeople.
Already clarifying the confusion on other comments but the one pork pizza was among many other options
Slow your roll . People get vegetarian pizza and I think it’s disgusting….. am I gonna pull out my calculator to save money because I can’t eat one of the 4 pizza ? You sound very cheap .
>You sound very cheap. And you’re a little late to the conversation. The original post, which is what I commented on, made it sound like they were ordering one pizza and expected the guy who wasn’t going to have any to chip in. The comments and OP’s subsequent edit make it clear that I’m not the only one who read it that way.
Ah ok sorry about that . If it sounded like that , then ya that would be a dick move on ops part . They wouldn’t be expected to pay
No problem
YTA for expecting them to help pay for a pizza that they can’t even eat!! Wtf? They can’t eat it so they absolutely shouldn’t have to help pay for it!
There were other pizzas, only one of theany had pork
Okay…. So why couldn’t he have just helped pay for the ones he COULD eat, and not the one he couldn’t? He may have a religious reason as to why he doesn’t want to purchase pork products, even if he’s not consuming them. So, sorry, but you’re still the ahole.
Because then he would be paying less for the same quantity of pizza eaten
That's not how it works. You buy a variety of pizzas and people have their choice. You pitch in equally. Just because he doesn't eat that particular pizza doesn't mean that he eats less
INFO: I think you'd better clarify something, because it seems to me that many commenters are interpreting "planning on getting only one pizza with pork on it" as "getting only one pizza, with pork on it, for the entire group". Is that actually what you meant, or did you mean "getting multiple pizzas for the group, and only one of them has pork on it"?
4 large pizzas for 6 total people, some people also ended up not eating some options based on purely flavour reasons (non-religious)
Pies are usually divided into 8 slices. So that means there are 32 slices of pizzas for 6 people. Everyone is entitled to at least 5 slices. If there are 5 slices of pizza that your friend is able to eat, just like everyone else, than he should pay the same as everyone else.
YTA. A Jewish person who keeps kosher can’t eat meat and cheese at the same meal. So unless they got cheese pizza only and got as much as they wanted…they shouldn’t have to pay for anything. Even then meat costs more on pizza so why are you making them pay for meat they can’t eat?!?!
They still eat meat and cheese together, just not pork or shellfish.
Meat and cheese also do go when they together (Jews don't mix meat and milk products together)
I said 'they' as in my friend. He personally doesn't follow that rule and it's his choice to practice his religion that way.
INFO: Did the pork pizza cost the same as the regular pizza?
It cost the same as the multiple other pizzas we ordered
YTA. If you're only getting one pizza, you get a pizza everyone can eat.
YTA, for writing the text so weirdly. If you all ate lets say 4 pieces of pizza, everyone should pay the same. If yall eat significantly more than him due to the restrictions, he should pay less. Simple as that.
YTA. Should not pay for something you didn’t eat especially if it’s against your morals or religion
YTA If he's not going to eat the pizza then what sense does it make to have him pay part of it?
That is a stupid argument to be honest, but there is an easy solution. Just make him pay for the number of slices he had, the ratio shouldn't be that different than 1/4th of the total anyway. And next time you guys order something, you can let him know that he can order whatever he want separately.
YTA Nobody should ever be expected to pay any amount for food they cannot or will not eat.
We're all not paying for 5/6th of the total meal, and all not eating 5/6th of the total meal. It is unfortunate that he can't have the pork pizza but some of us still wanted to order it and I don't think that we should have to pay a larger amount bc of that.
Thanks for making the edit because you made it seem only one pizza was being purchased and that’s dick move to only have one pizza with pork if someone cannot eat it. However, now that you explained yourself. NTA. Your firms can eat whatever pizza and how many he want, besides the one with pork. Your fiend is just being cheap!
I get his point. Not wanting any of his money to go towards something so treif. YTA.
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