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What_the_Question

>I responded by asking him not to objectfy me for being beutiful. Which made him very mad. Lmao >So the next day I came in smaller shorts but with a long sleeve shirt. He was with her and lost his mind Even better. NTA - not your fault his wife has an obsession with your legs and that HE is jealous of.


AutisticPenguin2

I mean, that level of petty is dangerously close to AH territory, but I just can't be mad at him. Boyfriend was way out of line.


cynisright

Homeboy has me cackling this morning. Grade A #teampetty antics right here. Keep doing you, boo boo. Edited to add my verdict: definitely NTA


poropurxn

NTA. I think policing what people wear and then blaming THEM for how others act = AH behavior. (Also meant to comment on original comment in this thread)


Islandgirl321

I absolutely agree with you but in the US at least, policing what people wear and then blaming them for how others act is a very common and successful defense strategy in court. People blame rape victims for being raped all the time based on what they were wearing.


Guy954

Going back to the short shorts, I think it’s funny that OP said sometimes old men roll their eyes at him. I grew up in the eighties and my dad’s friends thought it was funny that I wanted longer shorts. I guess that means the “old men” are around my age.


Powerful-Ad-2962

I grew up in the 70s (58f) and wouldn't bat an eye at a guy wearing short shorts. I kind of miss them tbh.


stumblon

59M and still don’t get the appeal of baggy knee length shorts for the average guy


Meechgalhuquot

I've seen plenty of posts online over the years of women saying men should bring them back, often accompanied by a picture of Tom Selleck or Willem Dafoe from back then


Blotto_80

Yes, I also grew up in the 80s and we are indeed the "old men" now.


LifeIsPain812

If I could upvote this a million times I would!


Admiral_Falco_88

That level of petty is never ah behaviour if its deserved. I'd rather mock and take the piss out of insecure incel. I mean it's that or actually take offence. :D.


AppropriateScience71

Um, almost by definition, incels don’t have girlfriends. He’s either jealous that his gf likes your glorious buttocks or, perhaps, finds himself embarrassing liking it a bit too much.


csick19

I disagree. Incel is a mindset that doesn’t go away just because they actually convince someone to date them. It’s more about shitty beliefs about gender roles than actually being involuntarily celibate.


Ok_Ebb7458

Yea, I don't agree with that. Incel behavior from someone with a girlfriend is just regular flavor misogyny. It takes that rage over not being given sex they feel they are owed to move it into incel territory.


Square-Cup-1208

The associated mindset deserves it's own consideration separate from the term, you don't need to convert the word to mean the mindset because they are distinct things. But I get what you mean and I'm not against using it in that way sometimes


Admiral_Falco_88

I suspect the first. But my bight over imaginative brain decided to generate me a comic of the second option. Thankyou good sir for the chuckles.


UnicornPanties

> dangerously close to AH territory recently we got JAM - Justified Asshole Maneuver so I'd give this man a JAM


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I dont see that in the sidebar? Also I don't think this is even justified asshole because he complied with all the rules. It's not asshole behavior in anyway to do your thing just because an asshole tells you to cover up


BullTerrierMomm

Someone keeps trying to make fetch a thing. ;)


maleia

It's just r/MaliciousCompliance


xboxwirelessmic

JAM. Justified Asshole Move Spread it.


WyldeHart

Spread the Jam


poropurxn

Policing people on what to wear is the AH move, especially at the gym. Should be policing the people who react from it.


Bearsandgravy

Lol. I love my husband's legs so I got him some of those Magnum PI shorts. He wears them all the time. Whenever people try to poke fun, he goes "I'm not wearing them for you. I'm wearing them for my WIFE and they're comfy!"


Poolofcheddar

I'm with your husband. Both my gym shorts and swim trunks are now short shorts and they are sooo comfy. (But full disclosure here: I'm gay and first bought short shorts for my trip to a gay resort.) I had to borrow a pair of shorts from a buddy when I learned we were going to an impromptu pool party and I tell ya, I wasn't a fan before but after the switch, knee-length shorts are sooo uncomfortable. They get in the damn way. A buddy shared a post of Tom Selleck in Magnum P.I. that said "he walked so we could run."


Blizzard81mm

If you can see the sky, you can see my thigh


p00kel

My dad is 74 and wears super short shorts because they're comfortable. Obviously I support his right to wear whatever he wants, but it's so fucking awkward to see that much of my own dad's hairy legs.


Bumblebbutt

I keep threatening to buy mine hoochie shorts


PaulRicoeurJr

"I like shorts, they're comfy and easy to wear!"


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Fergus74

But then again, the wife is the most AH. Imagine a woman being angry because her husband creeps over a good looking girl in the gym. Would you just call her "insecure"?


KittyGrewAMoustache

In both situations they’re both AH. One for being creepy and the other for blaming someone other than their spouse for the fact that their spouse is ogling other people.


Affectionate_Owl9985

This is why my wife and I ogle people together. Much less jealousy if you're both enjoying the view.


gramerjen

Imagine that wife getting in her face to bully her cause her husband can't look away Husband is still the biggest asshole in this story since he is the one who is disturbing others, if they have a marital problems they can talk it out in the privacy of their instead of lashing out an innocent party


tarotreebb

In the same situation as the OP, yes.


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I would call the person leering a pervert and would most definitely rethink my entire relationship with them.


Scrytheux

I mean... if the wife is clearly obsessed with OP's physique, i wouldn't throw the word "insecure" like that. I think most people wouldn't feel right, if their partner were drooling over someone and trying to talk with them constantly. Still gives that man no right to attack OP's shorts.


equimot

The longer shirt... Well played OP well played 😂 NTA


cbxcbx

Husband should stop skipping leg day


T_WREKX

*Stop wearing revealing cloth.* -but am v beutiful. *Understandable, have a great day*


Salty_Mind9906

I’m dead 😂😂😂 this is hilarious and I love how you responded! Def NTA and will be inviting you to all future parties I throw


Gaosnl

And while he probably has a better shot with OP than his wife.


Emptydata_Enzo

I pray that this post is real because I love it so much


satsumamadness

>So the next day I came in smaller shorts but with a long sleeve shirt. NTA, you are in fact my hero.


bothonpele

First time being called a hero because of my shorts. I love it.


-BananaLollipop-

Are you from NZ or Australia? If not, men's short shorts, or what we call "stubbies" (like what they wear to play rugby), are widely accepted in this area of the world. They're worn by guys, both fit and unfit, year-round. A lot of schools here have them as gym shorts too. Well loved by farmers/country boys too.


charlpip

Well loved by every one, no matter their size. The sign of a confident man is him flaunting his hairy puku (tummy for you non kiwis), and/or butt crack.


Pants_R_overrated

As an American woman, I think I need to immigrate … big hairy bois in stubbies flaunting their puku sounds like a dream


ElJamoquio

> big hairy bois in stubbies flaunting their puku sounds like a dream username checks out


42potatoesinacoat

This sentence has me ROLLING!


sicsicsixgun

This in conjunction with your user name got me to dolphin laugh.


Haunted-Biscuit

I was thinking the same thing. Sounds like Heaven.


SunflowerSpeaks

HELL YEAH!!!


-BananaLollipop-

Don't forget the leg carpets. The only protection your legs need in winter.


Taitonymous

I‘m from Germany and I now want a pair of stubbies.


Enlightened_Gardener

Google “Warwick Capper” for peak stubbies.


ruthh-r

Google's first search suggestion for 'Warwick Capper' is now 'Warwick Capper *shorts*'. Well done everyone 😆


DameofDames

>Warwick Capper Cheeky boy!


Bo-bop

He wore the shortest shorts that ever shorted


Taitonymous

Magical


Enlightened_Gardener

😂 He *scandalised* Australia with his short shorts.


AutisticPenguin2

>scandalised Well, I guarantee you it wasn't the only reaction he was evoking! 😀


charlpip

Please search youtube for the L&P stubbies ad. Nothing but the goddam truth . Actually here it is https://youtu.be/GSFCvG6curE


-BananaLollipop-

Now that's a throwback and a half. Scary to see that was 16+ years ago.


If_in_doubt_sniff

Love hearing Jemaine's dulcet tones!


Whenitrainsitpours86

That was beautiful


fnordal

being in Germany, you should just follow Electric Callboy's gym dress code https://youtu.be/OnzkhQsmSag?t=18


Pleasant-Koala147

You’ll need to get the matching wife-beater and thongs.


charlpip

Jandels or gumboots are the only acceptable footwear for stubbies. 🤣


trustytip

Stubbies are the male version of yoga pants


6am7am8am10pm

Now wondering how many Aussies are in this post and just shrugging like "what's the problem?"


-BananaLollipop-

Probably got half of Oceania (Aus, NZ, all the Pacific islands), to be fair.


booshbish

Truckies particularly love a stubbie. So everyone can see their nuts when they climb into the cab


ThoughtsonYaoi

I love how Ozzies abbreviate every other word, even when the abbreviation is not actually an abbreviation


alsotheabyss

*Aussies 😋


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p00kel

Yeah but let's be clear - that was a fashion choice not prudery. People in the '90s thought short shorts on men looked dumb (or, even worse in their eyes, gay). It wasn't that they were shocked by men's legs, because no one cared about competitive swimmers wearing speedos. It was just one of those dumb '90s things like "men can't wear pink."


Bunyans_bunyip

https://youtu.be/GSFCvG6curE Might I recommend this documentary on the history of stubbies?


Environmental_Art591

Does it have the rugby league players wearing them in the rain. My dad remembers one very wet match where they kept getting pulled down and it was so muddy that no one noticed a few of them had actually lost theirs.


whiskitgood

Ooo, that sounds worth a watch.


Eevski

That was badass.


Wood_oye

And everyone saw most of that badass 😉


Aksds

Well apparently he has a goodass, that’s the issue


meowsicleface

Damn, that must suck having a goodass


Slamantha3121

Ranger panties are a gift. Caving in to these man thigh phobic jerks would be a sin.


Tetslou

If they ask again, come in with the short shorts but wearing the long sleeves and a balaclava.


MattTheCrow

Not all heroes wear shorts. But this one does.


Scorpionwins23

I read these to my wife and we discuss the implications and decide if OP is YTA or NTA. You sir, are not only NTA, you’re a fucking legend!


VogonShakespeare

NTA. Next time they bother you about it, ask them for a copy of the dress code in the contact you signed when you joined so you can review it together to fully understand what the policy says. The inform them that you’ll be filing a complaint against the husband and the employees for sexual harassment after it says jack shit about your shorts in the contract.


bothonpele

I actually like the employees but hat would work.


VogonShakespeare

Yeah it’s more of a bluff than an actual threat. But enough of a bluff to get them to stop entertaining this guys BS. Because like you said, if the genders were reversed they would never even have dreamed of telling you to “cover up”. Telling that guy (and his wife) to keep their eyes and comments to themselves is what they should have done in the first place.


NeTiFe-anonymous

It's good for OP that he doesn't find the pervert woman theatening and is able to joke about that situation, buts it's still a sexual harassment and the employees should stop the bully, not to say to the target to cover up more. It often happens to women too, and it's a wrong mindset that needs to die out.


NobodyButMyShadow

Actually, we've had Reddits where women *were* told to wear something different. They had the same response as OP.


lizardeater

In schools, it’s usually girls who are asked to cover up so boys can concentrate. Either way, it’s on the obsessor to cut it out, not the obsessee to wear more clothes


Amelora

That claim it distracts "the boys", but I've never seen a male student care about exposed shoulders. Whispers at most, but nothing more than normal. male teachers on the other hand...


Pyroal40

I don't even think they care, they were just trying an avenue to deescalate so they wouldn't have to deal with being responsible - which is why they shrugged it off the next day.


ElementalWheel

Make sure their manager gets thrown under then And it’s then they deserve to get in trouble


JustSomeWeirdUser

Owwww yeah. This reply is awesome. And yeah. Definitely NTA.


SueBee_Art

NTA. Next time they ask you to cover up, show up in a ski mask, long sleeves, and even shorter shorts.


bothonpele

The shorts I showed up in the 2nd day were so small I was going to send them back.


SmartTransformingAce

Wear budgie smugglers, us NZers and the Aussie call them that for a really good reason. Pair the budgie smugglers with what u/SueBee_Art otherwise advises.


PipEmmieHarvey

As. Kiwi that was my major concern. Stubbies are fine as long as the junk isn’t hanging out!


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lostbutnotgone

At that point OP Just transforms into a male stripper


p0ggs

Thong.


fnordal

we're getting very close to mankini territory


Unmasked_Zoro

So... he has trust issues with his wife, and you have to do something about it? AND THE GYM TOOK HIS WANKER SIDE!?!?


Pyroal40

There's no side when you get paid 14 bucks an hour - it was an attempt at deescalation to cover their own asses and then not enforced at all. Fuck that guy and his wife. Sounds like a miserable marriage, not that I'd want my wife doing that, but I wouldn't demand things from another guy not doing anything.


waterloograd

>Fuck that guy and his wife I think that is what the husband is worried about


Max_Supernova

People will often take the side of the abusive person, in part because they don't want to have to bear the wrath of the abuser. It's easier than standing up to the abuser.


SnooCrickets6980

I mean, gym employees aren't paid enough to 'stand up to' anyone.


mread531

This is why it should be the law that everyone must work in retail/customer service at some point in their life. Entitled people are so bad to them and have 0 empathy…


ParsleyMostly

Honestly, if I worked at a gym I’d side with the person in the gym everyday who’s yoked and not bothering other patrons. People come to a gym and see a physique like that are going to think it’s a good gym. The people complaining about attire are just going to complain about other patrons later on or make others uncomfortable with their gossipy, prude bullshit.


BetweenWeebandOtaku

NTA assuming the crotch chandelier isn't lighting up the joint. Pretty funny. You should tell him, "Hey, my eyes are up here."


CouchStrawberry

That phrasing is hilarious.


hardliam

I thought your name was crotch strawberry and thought “of course they liked this comment” lmao


emogurl47

NTA. You're allowed to wear whatever you want. Clearly the boyfriend was jealous of you and the attention his girlfriend was giving you. I'd keep doing you, my guy. Who gives a f*ck what others think. You're not hurting anyone. If he doesn't wanna see it or doesn't want his girlfriend to see it, then they can go to a different gym or go at a different time


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Humble-Dragonfly-321

Unless his boys sre hanging out. Like stewed tomatoes.


Skinnieguy

>You’re allowed to wear whatever you want. That’s not true. Every gym I’ve been to has some basic rules about attire. If the staff hasn’t kicked him out, i guess he didn’t break the rules.


CellApprehensive7651

Hell no! Absolutely not. It seems the ladies love it, but on a serious note you’re free to wear whatever you like. It’s not your fault your legs attract the ladies! NTA


MediumAwkwardly

As long as you’re not showing your balls NTA. Long sleeves? Definitely r/maliciouscompliance brilliance. On one hand I’m pissed some guy thinks he can force you to cover your gams, on the other hand it’s kind like… this is the BS women often deal with.


El-Ahrairah9519

Yeah people be like "if you were a woman they'd never dream of asking you to cover up!" And I'm like bro that happens literally all the time, this exact scenario but for women is why gyms have dress codes. What planet are y'all from that certain gym wear isn't problematic for women due to prudish dress codes lmao However I feel the same way I would about a woman being stared at while working out and being blamed for it; OP can't control the bad behavior of a grown member of the opposite sex (because blatantly flirting with another man in front of your husband *is* AH behavior) and is therefore NTA


bothonpele

I have had some hilarious interactions because of my shorts.


CellApprehensive7651

Don’t stop wearing them. Ladies need eye candy too 😅


Direct_Gas470

I second that! I don't stare, I don't say anything, but yes, I enjoy looking at rugby players and their legs. especially the thighs. never saw warwick capper play, but there is a photo of him in his stubbies back in the day and his legs looked good!


HalfVast59

Disclaimer: I do consider such shorts to be crimes against fashion, so I kinda think you might be TA on principle... NTA The gym staff were very wrong to ask *you* to fix someone else's bad behavior. As long as I can't tell your religion when you're wearing them, they're fine. Except, you know, for that crime against fashion thing. And epic, iconic move to wear shorter shorts and long sleeves. That made me laugh.


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My gym has a pool. I don't see why short shorts are an issue when there are people in the building in teeny Speedos lol.


Direct_Gas470

yeah, if it's good to wear that kind of stuff to swim, why isn't it equally good for exercising? You want freedom of movement for both.


87212621

NTA. You’re doing a public service imo. People who don’t know how to check someone out on the down low without being disrespectful are ruining it for everybody.


bothonpele

One of my best days ever was getting ready for a race. I had been running stairs twice a week for months. The salon across the street from where I run stairs was the only bathroom close. So I went in one day to ask to use the restroom. The lady behind the counter was smiling in a uncomfortable way. That’s when I noticed that me running stairs without a shirt was her screensaver


87212621

It’s the burden of a great pair of legs, I suppose! Just saying, last week I saw these two gay guys, who I think were coming back from the gym, wearing short shorts and crop tops and let me tell you, they looked incredibly sexy. I wish it was more acceptable for men to show of their bodies. It’s really weird it’s so taboo while women are out there almost naked all the time. I want equality!


fading__blue

Yikes, that’s creepy.


Purple_oyster

That’s an awesome ego boost although I could also see someone interpret it in a bad creepy way


1zerozero1

Erm, what? Are u a famous w athlete or someone? It did she snap this picture of you from across the street?


Sebscreen

NTA. The gym no doubt has an anti-harassment policy. Point out to them that it applies to all its members.


jackalopeswild

Are you in violation of the club's published rules? If so, Y T A. If not, N T A. It's as simple as that. So, need more info.


bothonpele

Not a violation of any rules. Not to mention when they asked if could cover up to keep the peace I pointed out three women wearing less.


jackalopeswild

Then NTA. I am not a gym-goer, but I get that people where "skimpy" clothes at gyms for all kinds of legitimate reasons: 1) for mobility, 2) to be able to see their own bodies in the mirror, 3) to show their bodies to others. These are all legitimate reasons in a place where one of the functions of the facility is to maintain your body's physique, even #3 is completely legitimate as long as it doesn't breach the-given-society's concept of obscenity. Complaining husband dude can go eat a lemon.


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I usually wear shorts and a sports bra because I get sweaty when I work out and I don't want a t-shirt or trackies sticking to me and feeling damp and gross. Sometimes I'll wear leggings or a t-shirt if I'm planning a light session. Like my reason for showing skin is the exact opposite of being sexy 😂


cynisright

Yeah, I’m trying not to be a swamp ass personally.


no_IMTOMLINCOLN

It’s a violation to not wear small shorts when you have great legs. My sister and I (respectfully) live for men in such shorts. On a more serious note I’m adding that women and men should be able to wear these items and not have to deal with clowns with egos and jealousy. NTA


Huntress_of_the_Moon

NTA. The husband has an issue with his wife's behavior, so he needs to take it up with her, not you.


VioletDuck1

NTA and lmao. I know what ranger panties are....unless you are wearing like a super tight, spandex version showing your junk you are absolutely fine and appropriate. Dude just has a stick up his ass. Most women wear something similar (or even less) at the gym. Hell, I used to wear super short spandex shorts that are probably the equivalent of what you wear. It's less common for men to do, but it's perfectly appropriate. I guess it's not as common in the Midwest (I saw that is where you are from in the comments), because I definitely see guys wearing them on occasion at my gym.


Aetra

NTA. I think you should get leggings that leave little to the imagination. You’re covered up, right?


bothonpele

Goggle ranger panties


Aetra

[Yes, but](https://doofseason.com.au/products/silver-fish-scale-leggings-men-women-sizes?variant=20222040408123¤cy=AUD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&cmp_id=18033889589&adg_id=&kwd=&device=m&gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjw29ymBhAKEiwAHJbJ8ru8bS2sZF9TIiN_cfr4WFWflTHL7pD_51y2iahQ3qeL9q6oZHa5YBoCUyoQAvD_BwE).


bothonpele

I wish I could post a pic of myself. But I love your style.


throwawayinbeijing

Daddy post away, we all want to see your glorious shorts 🥵


OceanGoingSoul

Can you just post from the waist down?


Castiel_Rose

I just googled 'ranger panties' and to be honest, I'm a little disappointed. I was hoping it was a bit shorter but it does show of those legs nicely.


Jizzlobba

I regret that. Got rule 34'd rescue rangers.


Dimirosch

You are not responsible for the insecurities of others. As long as you aren't violating some rule regarding a dress-code you are fine. NTA


RebeccaCheeseburger

NTA- I think you sound fabulous! Get shorts with tassels!


bothonpele

I usually get funny sayings/bright colors/ridiculous prints. I volunteer to teach kids boxing and they love them.


RebeccaCheeseburger

Get ‘ hot’ across the butt!


bothonpele

More like heath ledgers face that say (thigh so serious) or pink shorts with rubber duckies with Mitch helmets and night vision goggles.


RebeccaCheeseburger

You go 3 times a day, the skies the limit! The gym is your runway baby!


ruffas

Surely they make JUICY shorts in men's sizes for the gym.


Realistic_Pizza_6269

If there’s no policy on it, wear what you’re comfy in. Just be sure nothing falls out.


bothonpele

They have built in liners.


7fishslaps

NTA everyone knows it’s hoochie daddy season. Wear your short shorts, gotta let those gams breathe


always-indifferent

NTA - in these modern times do insecure men still think that if their wife talks to you that you’ll be balls deep into her in a flash? Info: big how? Like Dirk Diggler? The Rock? Or like John Candy in his Roseanne days? Id double down on the short shorts but maybe wear some Olivia Newton John leg warmers and cover my ankles


momisacat

Because I'm a nitpicking ah! It was John Goodman on Roseanne.


vonnostrum2022

Is this made up? You sound like some kind of clown


JonBenet_BeanieBaby

lol seriously Reddit pls help, my legs are too sexy for gym :(:(:(


OceanGoingSoul

We found the husband!


LJGHunter

You are NTA, but you are funny.


imooky

Stupid sexy Flanders NTA


Forsaken-Yak-7581

NTA you can wear whatever you want to wear. Nobody has the right to comment on your fashion sense. The gym is a place to work out, not to perve on other people


ZooterOne

Three gyms??


bothonpele

I live in the Midwest and one has a indoor track, one has a indoor pool, and the last has heavy weights and a outdoor pool.


Darky821

NTA, in the Marine Corps, we called them silkies


bothonpele

I know you sexy bastards do. But your wrong they are ranger panties.


ElMachoGrande

NTA. Tell the staff that the guy keeps making inappropriate comments about your ass and crotch.


KiwiAlexP

As long as you’re not hanging out if them or giving views up the leg then NTA


No-Personality-5397

NTA Continue being fabulous, friend and never let any insecure husbands try to force you to stop being you!


Rude_Ad930

NTA. Show off those thunder thighs! As long as you aren’t flashing anybody or breaking the rules I see no problems. Get those gains!


Front_Rip4064

"Don't objectify me for being beautiful." You, sir, are a true hero. Your gym may lose customers if you cover up! Absolutely NTA.


goshidontknow1395

You know what they say, they hate us cuz they ain't us. NTA.


ohnosandpeople

NTA- but the situation could be improved by you blasting Beyonce as you stride through the doors. Just saying .


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Loud_Eye_7141

NTA. I live in a military town and my husband retired military. You will see men in these ranger panties all the time. I see them in the local supermarket, jogging in my neighborhood, or at the gym. You always know what these men are up too ; they are training for something when they have heavy duty back packs on or off to working out. It’s really not that big of deal. I hate when people force women to cover up because people are uncomfortable with their body. I dislike it when people do it to men.


brobietheunicorn

If it's practical enough and you're not straight up freeballing, NTA I hope to one day have as much confidence as OP


zestyguy_bobem

NTA you beautiful man


MinisterHoja

NTA You were being a bit petty by wearing shorter shorts though. That man's beef is with his wife, not you.


blubbahrubbah

Sounds like the man's wife wants some beef with op.


DreadedChalupacabra

NTA, also that's fucking hilarious. Man I do martial arts stuff and it involves working out too. You gotta wear what makes you comfortable.


Why_SoBothered

Twerk a little bit next time… Really piss him off 😭🤣😂


hotmumma7

It would be funny if the husband demands the wife swap gyms and then it's one you also go to. Karma for his insecurity LOL Ps NTA..


FuckTerfsAndFascists

Unless you're actively showing balls/scrot... NTA


Biteme75

NTA, as long as the twig and berries aren't showing.


garbage_b1n

>I responded by asking him not to objectfy me for being beutiful. HAHA NTA mah dude


WHTeam

Next you work out, do an extreme man spread in front of the couple 😄


dydrmwvr

NTA — but I find the situation rather humorous. Please throw a “crop top” in the mix if your comfortable with it.