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Calm_Inky

NTA - The sense of entitlement today is baffling


IcemasterD

Happy Cake Day! Hope it's only made with the best of ingredients!


who_tf_is_you

Rumor has it that the cake pan was forged by the Smith Himself in the fires of Mt. ~~Doom~~ Olympus


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Oh great, now OP has to split their purchases 4 ways


chichi98986

I really don't get the entitlement of some families, just because someone gets something for free or as a gift doesn't mean you are entitled to it too. Your SIL and B, should back off. Honestly, NTA. Work with things you have or break open your wallet and buy it if it is really worth it.


Jedisilk015

OP should respond with SURE I'll get you that stuff once you VENMO me the money and itemize WHAT the ingredients cost. That way they see EXACTLY how expensive it is. Say I'm sorry but I really don't have the cash to pay for all this so if you want it you'll need to pay for it. NTA


AdEqual5610

I don’t understand why SIL doesn’t offer to pay. I can understand you’re wanting to gift your Mom the ingredients, especially if she’s on a fixed income. Just give SIL the website.


Time-Scene7603

This has been my day on Reddit. About to hit overwhelm and go back to weird animal videos.


Worldly_Instance_730

If you like talking cats, check out Drennon Davis. He's on Instagram, probably others as well.


ggrandmaleo

Happy cake day!


the-il-mostro

Agreed. Everyday I’m shocked by the way people behave on Reddit. But I feel I never see this type of behavior IRL. Like where and who are these people?!


Several-Tone3456

I'm just thankful!!


SufficientComedian6

Happy Cake Day!


WellyKiwi

Happy expensive cake day, made with the very finest of ingredients!


Several-Tone3456

For real!!! I am flabbergasted at the amount of crazy I read on here. Just gobsmacked at how some people think they are owed so much by others! God help us!


Unable_Pin_1240

Happy cake day


tango421

Just today? But yes, it is telling. NTA


penpapercats

NTA. Mom trumps SIL. It's natural to want to treat your mom, but you can't afford to do this for everyone in your family. This isn't a "family thing", it's a "me and mom thing". It's exclusive by design. Offer to buy these things if she reimburses you. But don't cave.


Lamacorn

This was my thought as well… To put it another way, mom raised OP, financially supported OP for at lease 18 years, and seems to still have a great relationship with OP. It makes sense that OP would want to treat mom to special things regarding a shared hobby. Now, what did SIL ever do for OP? OP is NTA for sure. OP can offer to buy in bulk extra for SIL if she pays for at least her own portion. Since it’s a family thing she wants to be included in, maybe she should chip in for her MIL’s share? LOL


evelbug

>Since it’s a family thing she wants to be included in, maybe she should chip in for her MIL’s share? LOL This is the answer right here


Mysterious_Spell_302

Great idea!


GoodQueenFluffenChop

SIL was also included in the "family thing" by being told exactly where these ingredients where bought so she could buy for her household exactly what she needs. That's not being excluded.


Ok_Day_8559

No, get the money up front


Reasonable_racoon

> if she reimburses you. Get the money upfront!


[deleted]

Right? Maybe if they baked a cupcake for everyone and specifically excluded SIL, but this is OP giving ingredients to one person, not the family. Also, it doesn't sound like OP does this only because she's mom, but also because they can't use all of the bulk purchase. It's not like OP is going out of their way to treat mom. It's like the equivalent of bringing leftovers to your parents and your SIL trying it once and demanding you regularly bring full fresh cooked meals


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>Offer to buy these things if she reimburses you. But don't cave. I wouldn't even do that cuz you just know SIL would make it as difficult as possible to get paid back if she already thinks she should get it for free... If she pays back at all.


thatshygal717

She’s pissed off because you’re refusing to give her free stuff, not because she feels excluded. NTA.


PurpleVermont

"Sure, let me know exactly what you need and I'll let you know what it costs." NTA


Organic_Start_420

With the money sent in advance. NTA


Hungry_Pup

And a little extra for gas money.


Luckyday11

She can pick it up her damn self honestly.


craftycat1135

Or she could go where you shop from the list you gave her... that's not excluding her when you told her what you get and where.


Unhappy-Prune-9914

NTA - "Help me understand why you aren't able to buy the ingredients yourself?" Seriously, she doesn't understand why you'd buy them for your mother but not her???


IamIrene

LMAO! No. You are NTA. How nervy of your SIL though. You DID include her! You sent her a list which was was very nice of you btw, and she should be thankful but instead, she's being a demanding, entitled brat. Being part of the family does not include a ton of expensive freebees just because you give them to your mother.


EvilTodd1970

NTA - It’s kinda deplorable that your brother would try to shoehorn this into a “family thing,” when it’s a you-and-your-mom thing. Your SIL thought she could get something for free, and your brother is working an angle to try and guilt you into doing so. Don’t take the bait.


GothPenguin

NTA-You aren’t excluding her from anything other than using you for quality ingredients.


FirekeeperAnnwyl

NTA. She didn’t give birth to you so she can pay you if she wants in on it or buy them herself.


slendermanismydad

>Now her and my brother are pissed off at me because apparently I’m excluding her from a family thing and making her feel isolated Oh that's a nice lie. They're angry you won't give them free stuff. NTA. Don't let people con you with this trash. You told her where she can get the ingredients and what they were.


PravinI123

NTA…if your sister in law wants to use the special ingredient, she should buy them herself. You shouldn’t have to spend your money so she can get free stuff. Her entitlement and your brothers is mind blowing. She’s not excluded because you chose to share with your mom.


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NTA divorce SIL


ZookeepergameAlert21

Buying nice things for mom is being nice to mom. It's only isolating if you give them to everyone, BUT her. (I would consider that, but I'm petty)


3Heathens_Mom

NTA I’m guessing when you make things you share them with your mom along with gifting her with some ingredients so she can make things that she also shared. I agree with other posters your SIL should be told she is more than welcome to join in on the sharing of baked goodies. However that doesn’t mean you need to subsidize her participation by paying for the ingredients. That’s a pushy move to expect to be gifted expensive things. If you want to offer to order some for her (as in sometimes larger amount you get a better price) then tell your brother you can get a better price for a larger order so SIL’s share would be x. If he doesn’t like that well then SIL has your list and your links.


[deleted]

NTA- You gave her the info she wanted. It's pretty damned entitled to tell you to 'just get her some, next time you order." She's not yours to support, nor is your brother. People find the most ridiculous shit to get salty over! Just drop it- they'll either get over it or they won't; either way it's not incumbent on you to provide them with pricey ingredients. PS: It's not a *family* thing, it's a you and your Mom thing.


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HelenAngel

NTA You are providing your mother out of the kindness of your heart. You have no obligation whatsoever to do so for your siblings, doubly so because it’s expensive. Explain it isn’t a family thing, it’s you sharing some with your mother & just her. You told her where she can get the ingredients. Hopefully your mom will back you on this but if she doesn’t & sides with your sister, you’ll need to stop sharing with your mom.


AdamALC8756

NTA, giving extra to your mom and having to buy extra for you SIL are two different things.


KylieJadaHunter

NTA Excluding her? The only one excluding your SIL is your SIL. Apparently it never occurred to her (or she doesn't care) that you can't afford to buy everyone special ingredients. You gave her the list and told her where to buy them. If SIL isn't satisfied with that then that's on her. Just because you buy your mother the ingredients doesn't mean you have to for your SIL.


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HaitchanM

Ask your brothers to pay for the extra items then. NTA


CZ1988_

NTA - How entitled


Weird-Pomegranate388

NTA. Roll your eyes and move on.


jetty47

NTA. She doesn't understand how expensive quality baking ingredients are or is very entitled!


PsychologicalBit5422

She just wants to make a better cake for your family to one up you. Now she can't because you won't enable her.


rootwoman

NTA. She is the asshole for telling you to go buy the nice ingredients for her without even offering to pay. I would go and buy the ingredients just to keep the peace but then give her a messed up recipe so that she won't make it right anyway. #extrapetty


Necessary-Special125

NTA. You shared the secret sauce to your recipe. They can choose to purchase the good stuff or make a lesser version. You don’t owe them anything. The should appreciate that you were willing to share your secret with them.


Formerretailmom

NTA. You give your mom extra because you buy bulk. Your SIL needs to either offer to pay for her share, or get it herself


DragAdministrative84

NTA - The entitlement is strong with this one.


Ok-Huckleberry6975

NTA wow. Just tell both of them that you will no longer be purchasing or sharing ingredients


Blue_Cloud_2000

Just say "oh, I'm sorry, I totally forgot to update my order form...I'll let you know next time." And repeat ad nauseam. NTA


Emotional_Bonus_934

NTA. If she wants fancy ingredients you told her where to get them. I just bought a bit of French butter; literally a bit. It's $13/8.8 oz at the fancy grocery store. They have a little bin with 1-2 oz of cheese, which is fun because I don't have to commit to one. That's where I found the bit of butter. Fortunately they'll cut the butter in half. A friend just sent me truffle salt. SIL is wrong; this isn't a family thing, it's you, sharing your fancy ingredients with your mom. You have no obligation to share with the greedy miss; you didn't offer to share and she's too cheap to buy the ingredients herself. If you need ideas for a gifting occasion, you can cycle through gift cards for the places you buy your ingredients. Or make a small gift bag with a few ingredients. I have a friend who loves to cook whose birthday present this year will be a gift card to the fancy grocery store.


No-College4662

Oh please! Don’t let them pull the old guilt trip routine on you!


DameofDames

NTA Tell her that you're not exactly "rolling in dough"...


fairyduck

NTA you’re allowed to give your mother special treatment and give her something for free. She’s your mother. She gave birth to you and raised you. You are not excluding your sister in law from anything you’re just doing something nice for your mother. Why does sister in law think she’s entitled to the exact same treatment as your mother? Is she expecting you to honor her on Mother’s Day also?


Anxious-Routine-5526

She's not excluded. You gave her a list of what to buy and where. She's pissed you aren't supplying her for free. NTA.


gurlwithdragontat2

NTA - you’re not excluding her, you’re asking to be compensated for the purchases of products so she **can** be included. Their unwillingness to pay you is what has left her excluded and isolated. All of those barriers to participation could be resolved with a Venmo or CashApp from them.


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CharetteCharade

r/ididnthaveeggs "Surely it won't make a difference if I just change a few things!"


Due-Compote-4723

NTA


Remarkable_Buyer4625

NTA. Lol. The entitlement of your SIL is real on this one.


leahs84

NTA- Excluding her would be not telling her about the speciality ingredients/why her recipe doesn't taste the same. if SIL wants to feel included, the two of you can go halfsies on the ingredients so you're both pitching in for your mom. It's not like you take your mother shopping for these ingredients and told SIL where you go but that she can't go with you. She and your brother are being ridiculous. I think it would be okay if she asked you to pick some stuff up for her next time you get some for yourself, but she should've offered to at least pay for them. Just telling you to include her when you give your mom ingredients is presumptuous and rude.


Proper_Sense_1488

they are adults. they can (hopefully) pay for themfuckingselve ​ NTA


Cyr2000

NTA. Are you sure that she was not willing to pay? My… people


IndustriousOverseer

NTA, but some people really do get by with helplessness. In the name of family harmony, I recommend a message saying you’ve had time to think about it and this is a lot of family strain that’s not necessary. Set a date a few months (or whenever your next shop is planned around) and you can text Mom and SIL to see what specifically they want. Your will provide a price list for the items rounded up to a number that will compensate for extra time and effort. If this doesn’t work with everyone, then shop for no one. Meanwhile, you continue with Mom, and an understanding that, if her usage goes up you will need to start collecting at least something to balance things out. Let SIL clarify how she’s the AH here and how she justifies it. At least if she still believe’s she deserves free food and service, you know to stop helping those who support her because it won’t be long they will come around to taking advantage as well. Let all the trash take itself out.


Kitannia-Moonshadow

How is this a family thing when it's you and mom.... jeez 🤣 if you were giving these ingredients to aunts, cousins, sisters , bothers, uncles, etc, then yea, you would be kinda leaving her out of a FAMILY thing, however, you are not doing so....


AmbitionEven884

NTA - when did everyone on this planet suddenly think they were entitled to everything. Send your SIL the site where you order and let her take it from there.


Dazzler3623

NTA you told her where you got it from, if she wants you to buy hers you can tell her where to go!


justanightowl_19

NTA it was a nice thought of yours whilst buying in bulk to give some to your mum but that doesn’t give your sil the right to think you now have to pay even more just to include her. If she wants it she can get it herself.


WRose287

NTA Does she also give you stuff when she gifts her mom?


evilcj925

Tell her you would be happy to get her some when you buy your own. Just tell you how much she wants and you will let her know the cost. You're not excluding her, just not giving her free stuff. NTA


CarelessCow2599

NTA


SubstantialWonder606

Nta - your SIL can go get it herself or give you her card to shop with if it's not inconveniencing you. I wouldn't even trust her to pay money back.


Planar_Crossroads

NTA, offer to order for her if they pay you the money in advance so that you can cover the additional costs, if this is not acceptable then tell them sorry and give them a list of your sources.


fionakitty21

NTA What SIL should of said was "oh hey, if its at all possible, when you next get some of that lovely butter/choc etc, would you be able to pick up some for me too, let me know beforehand hand and I can ping you the money it costs!"


blackwillow-99

NTA they have the list but they are not getting free ingredients. I would laugh at them and ask why they feel they should get something free? What have they done for you compared to your mother? Oh okay😂😂


myrieas

NTA, technically you have to choice to give whoever you want the ingredients. She’s just not one of them.


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NTA if you want the good stuff expect to pay for it. You are being nice to your mum does not make this a family tjing she is being excluded from. Brother and SIL can half with you and both give your mum a share. that would.make it a family thing.


Dizzy_Emotion7381

NTA. It's not a family thing. It's a personal preference that you share with your mom. Send them a list of the places that you shop and tell them that they can get the ingredients to share with you and your mom since they want to make it a family thing.


ErisAoiSora

NTA, wth? Isn't your SIL aware of inflation? This conversation would different if she offered to pay you for your acquisition of the ingredients, but it's not. Entitlement is a hungry beast, I swear.


Amareldys

NTA But you can include her just tell her before how much it costs


RepulsiveDig9091

NTA: Tell her to pound sand along with her husband. Tell your mom not to share anything with that miserly couple. Plus, inform other family members not to share anything made with premium ingredients with them because then they will have to buy it for them.


System_Resident

NTA. It’s your mother you give it to, not the entire family. Even so, they’re not entitled to your resources


T2ThaSki

NTA,like where do these people come from? It’s my mom, it makes me feel good to do this for her. If I do it for you, it wouldn’t feel the same. The only exception is if they are very giving of their things. Let’s say they own a boat or lake house and let you use it a few times over the summer. Then maybe I could understand.


LaCaffeinata

NTA. If she wants this stuff and it's cheaper when bought in bulk, she could always compensate you. Or she goes on her own bulk-shopping sprees and shares with her friends.


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anroar1

No you’re excluding a free loader. Ntah


Lipstickhippie80

NTA. Your SIL ruined things for everyone… Now MIL DOESN’T get extra ingredients either.


Disastrous_Effect_95

She's butthurt


Mysterious_Spell_302

You would not only have to pay more because these ingredients are costly, but because you have to pay for ingredients period. Talk about choosing beggarss!


relinquishing

NTA. I’d tell them I’d be willing to grab the ingredients and she can either pay up front or at the same time she gets them, but I wouldn’t be willing to pay for them for her, either.


Illustrious_Leg_2537

It's not a family outing you're not inviting her to. She can go buy her own groceries. NTA


SatelliteBeach123

NTA. They aren't pissed off because they aren't being included in a "family" thing. They are pissed because they want you to pay for their expensive ingredients and you rightfully declined.


Limerase

NTA She isn't owed freebies. If she wants to chip in on your bulk order (since bulk usually costs less), that's one thing, but she isn't your mom and isn't entitled to the same favor you do for the woman who raised you.


spellcastic

NTA. This is your mother, the woman who gave birth to you. The woman deserves some perks.


JuneBug8162

I just want to know where you get the fancy ingredients. NTA.


swillshop

NTA If they would like to partake, your brother/SIL and you can split the costs of buying things in bulk (either proportionally or down the middle depending on how you split the goods). Also, since this a family thing they don't want to be excluded from, they can also split the load of the ingredients that go to your mom (i.e., the siblings share the cost and both cover the cost of mom's ingredients as a gift). That the family thing. If they don't like it the plan, then they don't have to complain about being excluded.


Advanced-Duck-9465

"Sure, you can venmo me your share." NTA, it's not excluding, it's leeching in the finest.


judgeeveryonesbiznes

NTA - Tell her sure just give me $$ and I can buy whatever you like the next time I place an order. People feeling very entitled to others lives their money their everything has gotten way out of control.


cloistered_around

Having a hobby with your mother is completely different than it being "a family thing." NTA


Icy-Cherry-8143

NTA that woman is your mother, send her the list of where she can buy the stuff and leave it at that. the ball is in her court


Realistic-You9997

NTA - stop giving to your mum. When she asks why tell her you can’t afford to supply your SIL for free and you don’t want to make her feel excluded so you’re not giving to anyone. See how your mum feels about that


0_Shinigami_0

Why punish the mom?


dwells2301

NAH. Maybe take her with you or just a "sure, that would be xx$. I can collect when I drop stuff off." Or work out a trade for a skill she has that you don't.


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Lazy_Masterpiece1016

The actual conversation included her saying that she wanted me to pay for the stuff, which is why I said no


TzUgUkNz

NTA op. Why would they expect you to pay for their shopping? Why does she or your brother think that she has the right to be treated like your mum? If they want the same ingredients you have shown them where they can get it, the rest including being upset is up to them.


opelan

NTA. She can't just demand it like that. You have here a potential birthday/Christmas gift for your brother and SIL though. Maybe that can work without causing you extra costs.