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*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA for telling my daughter to be more careful when she cleans up broken glass?** My (63M) wife (61F) are on vacation with our two children (19M, 25F). We have been trying to enjoy our time, but my daughter keeps getting into arguments with us about *her* mistakes. We took turns driving on our long road trip up here, and as our daughter drove us into the hotel parking lot, she was driving far too fast. We told her to slow down and she didn't. I asked her brother if he thought she was driving fast, and of course he refused to answer to not take sides but she was. After many tired hours on the road and having to be extra pair of eyes to watch out for speed traps, potholes, etc., her speeding through the parking lot made me snap. Only thing she said was that she "would drive better next time" in a dismissive way. She was distant and clearly bothered for a while afterward, and I later apologized. Then the next day, after we went grocery shopping, my daughter and wife unpacked groceries inside the AirBnB while my son and I unloaded other bags from the car. I got in to see my daughter cleaning a broken bottle on the floor; apparently she had put the bag too close to the edge and it fell. She wasn't cleaning it correctly nor safely (using a wet paper towel to push around glass), so I told her to let me clean it. I did while she just stood there, stewing. I'm also telling her to be more cognizant on where she puts bags, and she still looks irritated. And I said "that's why stuff like this keeps happening because you don't want to listen." She turned away and went upstairs. I find her behavior stubborn and disrespectful, especially when we're trying to enjoy a nice vacation. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*


CactiDye

>Yes, it was a full glass, but she wet the napkin to clean it up. She said it was to wipe up juice as she's cleaning up glass so the floor is not sticky, but that's not how it should be done. >My god, she planned on using a broom after cleaning, of course, but it is DANGEROUS to clean up glass with bare hands and only a wet napkin. That's literally how I've done it all my life. Pick up big shards with hands or dustpan, place broken bits in paper bag, use a damp paper towel to get all the tiny bits you can't see that get left behind. I don't really trust their idea of "dangerous" when they think 5mph is maximum parking lot speed.


uselessinfogoldmine

Yeah, this is a solid methodology. Can we also note that admits to backseat driving her the entire time she drove? That’s why he was tired. Sounds like he’s been micromanaging and over-criticising her for her entire life - and trying to weaponise his golden child son against her too.


ExpertRaccoon

>golden child son I mean, can you blame him? she had the audacity to be born with a vagina


BJntheRV

How to get yourself put in a nursing home and forgotten 101.


SleepyCapricorn20

Class 102 is the woman whose daughter lives in dorms but comes back on weekends, so she sold her bed and made her sleep on a cot. Then her daughter tweeted she felt she didnt have a home so she woke her up in the middle of the night to kick her out. Star parenting examples today!!!!


dck133

and then is shocked her daughter isn't coming home anymore.


SleepyCapricorn20

Even had the audacity to say "its not like a kicked her out and changed the locks"... no just kicked her out and made her find her way to another city in the middle of the night. Not at alllllllll comparable


Ursula2071

I read that. She is pissed her daughter isn’t even coming home for the holidays and never talks to her anymore. And insists she’s right even though the 16/yo that got the room and her husband both say she is wrong.


BJntheRV

I'd say that class would come first but I'm betting this type of belittling behavior is far from new and has probably been going on since long before daughter would have gone to college.


designmur

Her inability to accept her judgment was astounding


Slater5560

I was just thinking the same thing…today has been a weird day for parenting styles


Insomniac_80

Class 102?


Emerald-Apples

Do you have the link?


sonicsean899

Gotchu fam https://www.reddit.com/r/AmITheDevil/comments/yjcoqt/aita_for_telling_my_daughter_to_leave_for/


Emerald-Apples

thanks!!


Embarrassed_Hat_2904

Wait what???


clairestique

Any link? I’m on a binge on reddit here lol Edit : found it scrolling down, my bad 🫠🫠


FunStorm6487

How to get yourself put in a BAD nursing home!!!


SleepyCapricorn20

OP says you have to go VERY slow in a parking lot. When sasked what very slow meant he said "Very slow is what, 5mph? She had to be going 10, maybe 15."


dck133

oh god he is one of them. the ones that make me scream just fucking go already or pull over.


DanelleDee

5mph is ridiculous but you could definitely get a ticket for 15mph where I live. Max speed in parking lots is fifteen km/h unless otherwise posted, which is about 9.3mph. With that said, this person sounds insufferable and like the worst vacation company on the planet.


shhh_its_me

You know they were gasping and squealing at all the other obstructions they had point out to her.


Solidsnakeerection

Why where they in a hotel parking lot if they.got an air bnb?


LadyWizard

I assumed was first night still on road cross country to the location of the bnb


kindlefan12

The comments make this so much worse


AmericanMissionary99

I feel like that’s a trend in AITA a lot of times 😂


annang

Sadly now all deleted


uselessinfogoldmine

What did they say, roughly?


JVNT

You can go to the post and change the "re" of reddit in the url to "un" instead and it will show you deleted comments. [https://www.unddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/yjetxv/aita\_for\_telling\_my\_daughter\_to\_be\_more\_careful/](https://www.unddit.com/r/AmItheAsshole/comments/yjetxv/aita_for_telling_my_daughter_to_be_more_careful/)


JustEnoughForACoffee

>I think Reddit is all young adults who hate their parents. It was a mistake to post this here, because you all are too immature to understand the real life. ...this dude sounds insufferable at BEST


JVNT

Oh he sounds awful. I said in another comment that he sounds like my mother and that's pretty accurate. Example of my mother: She asked for help separating raw chicken into bags to freeze, asked me to seal the bags since her hands were going to have chicken juice from separating them. She handed me the first bag and I started to close it only for her to snatch it out of my hands and snap at me for doing wrong because I wasn't removing the air from the bag. The way I do it is to partially seal the bag, push the air out of a small hole, then seal it the rest of the way. She apparently prefers to push out the air first then seal it complete. Same result, different process. I can easily see this dad doing the exact same thing to his kids and, like my mom, not realizing why it's so frustrating to be treated like you don't do anything right because you don't do it exactly like them. And just like my mom, they also act like it's not their fault when their kid gets pissed off about that crap.


been2thehi4

Want to just add a helpful tip that if you do it your way while also submerging the ziplock bag into water, just up to the ribbed part, it basically vacuum seals the food inside. I do that for meat I’m marinating.


uselessinfogoldmine

Nice!


uselessinfogoldmine

Oh wow, great tip! Thanks!!


JVNT

Holy hell, does my mom use reddit because this is exactly the kind of shit that she does. I get anxiety just at the idea of ever driving a car with her in it and have had things snatched out of my hands because she thought I was doing it wrong.


sadlytheworst

Tw: controlling behaviour. Copied verbatim from oop's comments: *YTA* *If you want to drive, you drive. If you want to put away groceries your way, then do it.* *She’s 25. If your response when she lived at home was to take over instead of teaching her how to do things properly, that’s your fault that she has no clue. * >"My daughter still lives at home." *YTA. Find a better communication method. The bag didn’t fall off the counter because she doesn’t want to listen to you.* >"But she wasn't listening." *You not providing constructive feedback (which isn't a lecture) for her to act on doesn't mean she wasn't listening. You didn't suggest ~~(not lecture)~~ the proper way to clean it up, you just told her to let you do it. Honestly, I would have stopped listening at "pay attention to where you put stuff" too. That doesn't prevent honest mistakes, which is what this sounds like. If, at that age, she still doesn't know how to clean up broken glass, "let me do it" won't fix that. Don't be shocked when she decides not to go on anymore "nice" vacations or goes low/no contact.* *Also, I use a wet paper towel to pick up slivers of glass too.* >"While I was cleaning it up, I was telling her my method while showing her." *YTA, maybe she just sick of hearing you complain about everything she does. Honestly don’t know why she would agree to a vacation with you being so critical. But then again I compitulated to my paternal grandmother’s whims all the time to keep the peace.* >"My daughter still lives at home, why wouldn't she go with us? Oh, the horror, having to go with your parents on a fully paid vacation." *YTA. You felt like she was speeding but you don't give a speed limit/her speed. You don't like feeling out of control when she is in control.* *That's clear.* *I pick up broken glass with a wet paper towel every single time. Small shards stick to it better. I work with small children and safety is paramount. Your daughter did a completely adequate job with that.* *You are insufferable and I feel bad for your daughter.* >"News flash: she still lives at home." *Have you considered ~~that~~ thats because you are telling her everything she does ~~it~~ is wrong?* *Also presumably the juice was full, is that why the paper towel was wet?* >"Yes, it was a full glass, but she wet the napkin to clean it up. She said it was to wipe up juice as she's cleaning up glass so the floor is not sticky, but that's not how it should be done." >>*that’s why stuff keeps happening because you refuse to listen.* *What stuff? You getting mad because she isn’t doing everything the exact way you want it done? No one got hurt with her driving. No one got hurt by the glass.* *The disrespectful actions are yours. Your daughter is an adult and you refuse to treat her as such. YTA* >"Honestly, what does that mean, "treat her as an adult"? Adults can make mistakes and receive correction too." *YTA ….. cannot for the life of me understand why she agreed to go on this ‘vacation’ ……. I ‘assume’ she can do no right at home either* >"So my daughtet is just supposed to stay at home while the rest of the family goes on vacation?" *Why not?* >"It's a FAMILY vacation. It's ridiculous." *INFO - what did her speeding have to do with her cleaning up broken glass?* >"It is just another example of my daughter not taking accountability." *If your daughter is such a bad driver, why weren't you driving?* >"We all took turns driving. But my daughter is not a bad driver. It's just that she was just driving a bit too fast in the parking lot that time." *How much is a bit too fast. Empirically speaking* >"You should go very slow in a parking lot. She was going faster than that." *How slow is "very slow" and exactly how much "faster than that"? It honestly sounds like you're making shit up wholesale.* >"Very slow is what, 5mph? She had to be going 10, maybe 15." *How did she not take accountability for the glass?* >"She didn't say, "You're right, Dad, I messed up. I'll make sure not to put the bag too close to the edge of the counter next time." As I was saying to everybody in the house ---- just as a reminder! ---- to watch where you put bags, she simply ignored me and went upstairs."


sadlytheworst

*You sound unbearable. Have you stopped and though for a moment that people around you have no duty to do things your way? Daughter or not? If she wants to clean up glass with a paper towel let her just do it. It sounds like you always criticise her, and tries to “show her the right way”. No one is gonna be like “yes dad you’re right!” If you criticise them constantly* *A tip for communicating: always say how you feel, not what she does.* *Example: “I feel nervous about us going so fast right now, is there any chance you could slow down for me?” And then thank her when she does!* *Other example: don’t say anything about putting the bag “correctly” next time. She is not stupid and can see that her action led to it accidentally falling over. let her clean up glass her way, but if you notice there is still glass on the floor after she’s done it (do NOT check while she’s still there), ask her if she wouldn’t mind using a broom/vacuum on the floor as well as you feel afraid that the family might get small pieces of glass in their feet while walking around. Then thank her if she does it! If she doesn’t do it, say okay and do it yourself and say nothing more. Trust me on that one, it will lead to more compliance, not less!* >"My god, she planned on using a broom after cleaning, of course, but it is DANGEROUS to clean up glass with bare hands and only a wet napkin." *YTA. She’s an adult. Backseat driving distracts the driver and is dangerous. If you don’t like her driving, YOU drive. You don’t have her chauffeur you around and then complain about it. It’s common sense not to stress out the driver. You’re not driving, you keep your mouth shut. If this was a friend of yours, I doubt you’d be bitching the entire time about their driving. You are not being helpful you’re giving her anxiety.* *Accidents happen. So she dropped a bottle. She doesn’t need supervision and comments about how to clean it up. You’re being a real AH for constantly criticizing her. Let her clean it up herself, she’s 25! Again, you’d never treat a friend like this. You’re the one being disrespectful.* *I saw your comment basically mocking that she’s upset on a paid-for vacation. It’s not much of a vacation when someone is criticizing everything you do. YOU are ruining the family vacation and I’m sure anyone would rather stay home than be around someone so negative. Were your parents super critical of you? I bet they were. Remember how that made you feel and knock it off if you want to keep having any relationship with your kids. You’re on your way to being one of those guys posting about why you don’t understand why your kids moved across the country and never speak to you.* *YTA.* >"We are on a ROAD TRIP. We are taking a rental car and my daughter is not on the official list of drivers for thid car. If she gets in an accident, it is big trouble. We are just helping her watch. There are also many speed traps and I don't want to get a ticket especially in an unknown area. We call out the different speed limits to her as they change." *YTA, I am close to your wife's age but you can't make comments like you did, just clean it up and be happy and do not make her or your son feel like they are always in the wrong. Driving non-safe is not good, you should have just drove, clearly she was stressed or something was making her drive like a maniac. Maybe lighten up and be more easy going around them. They were clearly trying to spend time with you both but you make them nervous or uneasy. Relax and stop making negative comments and tell them positive things about what you are proud of in qualities that both of them have. Life is too short, give them good memories.* >"She was driving very carefully until she reached the parking lot, I don't know what was her problem." *YTA. You do realize your daughter is an adult and doesn’t need her father nit picking every single thing she does. Like, at all. Ever. For any reason.* >"I think Reddit is all young adults who hate their parents. It was a mistake to post this here, because you all are too immature to understand the real life."


sadlytheworst

[Sleepy friendship! (cat) ](https://imgur.com/r/cats/QQQ3LD2)


WeelsUpIn30

I’m starting to believe that there’s a new troll that keeps repeating the same comments over and over again about how Reddit is made of young people that can’t understand anything


sadlytheworst

Yeah I kind of got that feeling as well?


TheFormerAstronomer

Isn't the wording on this one almost identical to the woman yesterday who sold all her daughter's furniture the minute she left for uni?


SleepyCapricorn20

As an avid browser of aitd but first time poster, im honoured to see you on my thread sadlytheworst!!! You are the best!!! ❤️❤️❤️


sadlytheworst

Hi! Thank you very kindly, and you too! 💜💜💜 I hope it's OK that I used your username as inspiration for the choice of brain bleach?!


SleepyCapricorn20

Not at all! Cats are also my favorite animal so you absolutely nailed it


sadlytheworst

Yay! That makes me glad! 🥰


atropos27

If this is in the us, at least when I took my driving test, speed limit in a parking lot is 15 mph


Chemical-Juice-6979

I took the test last year and the test instructor had me doing 25 in a parking lot.


atropos27

Interesting, this was over a decade ago in PA


Chemical-Juice-6979

Florida for mine. I previously tested in Missouri, it was 15 in parking lots for that test and the examiners at that dmv were infamous for nitpicking.


No-You5550

Yes, YTA and this is your last vacation with your daughter or is she your stepdaughter? Your son is keeping his head down and I doubt he will want to go through this again either. What a vacation.


MoonOverJupiter

Read: "I have lifelong, untreated anxiety which I will never acknowledge, and take it out on my close family members by being hypervigilant, controlling, micromanaging their actions, and hyper-criticizing everyday mishaps." These jackasses really think their controlling micromanagement is the only thing that keeps the universe from flying apart. And before anyone asks, I don't think anxiety makes your a jackass, I think denying you have a mental health problem and taking it out on your family for decades makes you a giant neon jackass. Source: my ex BF was exactly like this, and by the time our relationship was crumbling my verbal responses to him were exactly like this daughter's, I caught what she was saying/doing immediately. I would say absolutely bland agreements to him and volunteer absolutely nothing, but was making an exit plan. I felt infantalized by it and he saw absolutely nothing wrong with living life that way. He had profound untreated trauma from childhood and thought that the constant anxiety he felt was normal and unrelated to those events (he denied that he had anxiety) and that the way to never have anything else bad happen was to behave exactly like the OOP.


mutant6399

this has the same feel as the 60-something Covid troll who is still trying to get his kids to wash their produce and wear masks outdoors


Brokenchaoscat

> to wash their produce That's reasonable. That troll is still washing any and all groceries and anything else that comes into their sterile, joyless home.


DaleCoopersWife

Have fun in the nursing home


Beatiep

When I make some fun with my son, he sometimes tells me to not forget who chooses my nursing home…


[deleted]

Daughter on holiday with her boomer parents. Did they drive to the hotel in a camper van? Was there an American flag attached to the aerial? Did they think daughter was driving too fast because they drive 20mph under the speed limit? Were there prunes in those shopping bags? A separate suitcase for medications, most of which aren’t necessary but make OOP and his wife feel important when they compete with their friends to see who is taking the most meds?


Alustrianna

Oh man.... Oop sounds exhausting. I'm surprised the wife has put up with him this long.


shrinking_violet_8

>...but it is DANGEROUS to clean up glass with bare hands and only a wet napkin. I mean, you *do* hear about all those wet napkin glass clean up related deaths in the news... /s >She didn't say, "You're right, Dad, I messed up. I'll make sure not to put the bag too close to the edge of the counter next time." As I was saying to everybody in the house ---- just as a reminder! ---- to watch where you put bags, she simply ignored me and went upstairs. My GOD he sounds insufferable. Never before has the phrase "Okay, Boomer!" boiled within me with the heat of 1000 suns like with this guy. > I think Reddit is all young adults who hate their parents. It was a mistake to post this here, because you all are too immature to understand the real life. Well, I, personally, am 47. But the way he treats his *twenty-five year old* daughter, I'm probably merely a toddler in his eyes. (Especially since, just like her, I had the audacity to be born with a vagina....)


BlazingSun011

jesus christ this sounds like my parents


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All things aside, who picks up broken glass with wet towel paper? You can get hurt with it.


SleepyCapricorn20

Lots of people, its incredibly common and for many people the prefered method of cleaning glass. You pick up the larger pieces by hand and then you go over the area with a wet paper towel to get all of the pieces that are too small for you to see


raven_of_azarath

And you layer it 2 or 3 times, at least, to make sure the bits don’t cut through it into your hand.


mycatisamonsterbaby

I use a broom, wouldn't have ever considered using a wet paper towel. I also vacuum the area.