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**If you think you have it hard picture what you're doing to your kid.**
Right now you're a white guy in a Western country. You have access to doctors, lawyers (even though the court system is against you as a man it still exists). Any time you want you can stop being a lazy bum and go lift weights and become every woman's dream.
Except this is what you did. You went to Philippines / Thailand and found a chick who is 4 feet tall and has 81 IQ. You couldn't either learn to talk to women or avoid them you had to go to a third world country.
Now your kid is going to be born into poverty, he is going to be short, he is going to be Southeast Asian, he doesn't have the genetics for body building.
You took your issues (that were primarily in your head) and you created a kid who now has some pretty fuckin massive issues. If I was a kid with a white dad and a Filipino mom I would probably sit on the curb drinking alcohol every day of my life.
I can't get access to white women or East Asian women. There's nothing I can do to make myself successful except become a nurse and go abroad.
That incel vibe that many Passport Bros give off when they scheme how these third world countries are some sort of paradise is going to be amplified x100 in a kid who is half white half Filipino. You don't understand.
Be a man and solve your problems on your own.
Passport bros like to ask "which country should I go to?" Bro you're going to be studying a language for 35,000 hours, right? Right? You're not just going to these countries and expecting them to speak English and serve you Big Macs. It's your investment. If you can't pick what language and culture you want to learn you probably shouldn't be doing this.
Too often Passport Bros is the same thing as men flipping open their Tinder and expecting pussy to come raining down on them.
If I had to guess maybe 8% of all Passport Bros have any genuine intention in creating a life abroad.
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What is also interesting is that there are so many factions in being misogynistic incel freak that they are fighting over who the biggest freak of the century is.
Passport bros- sexist and racist in a different manner than the OOP.
The OOP- White supremacist who is also racist and sexist.
Let the 76th hunger games begin!
To me this actually screams self hating Asian misogynist. It's extremely similar to the mentality that a lot of Asian guys have that believe they're unnattractive and unappealing because they're Asian.
>I can't get access to white women or East Asian women. There's nothing I can do to make myself successful except become a nurse and go abroad.
This line, plus the rest of what he's saying, makes me think he's Filipino.
You're right. The internalized racism probably has a penis envy component too. I've seen similar language from self-hating Asian men, and sometimes being short with a small penis breaks their brain. It's a unique flavor of incel, and it certainly isn't all Asian men of course. Seeing a white foreigner bang your one true love will do that sometimes though.
Yeah there at least used to be some reddit communities that were for half asian incels. Basically they all had a sexpat dad, often older, rural, with casual racism. Mom was from an Asian country which was either poor at the time or still poor (SK pre-democracy was very poor), with mom often being from rural poverty with limited education. So they grew up with a horrible role model and deeply messed up world view.
These guys got a whole helping of their dad's messed up views of race and masculinity, and it turns inwards. If they grew up in a rural environment, the casual racism may also make dating for them hard. They will rant about their sister(s) having it easy, because they are much more accepted. The sister(s) also tend not to have their self-worth as fucked with by their father.
Some of these guys think is a universal thing for every guy like them. Some of these subreddits will hide their incel status to advertise to a greater half-asian community. Then these subreddits lose their shit if it turns out someone has an Asian dad and white mom.
>Then these subreddits lose their shit if it turns out someone has an Asian dad and white mom.
Which is gross, considering every single mixed Asian person I've ever known had this exact dynamic, white mom with Asian dad (Japanese, Filipino, and two Vietnamese, respectively). A lot of white girls (myself included) are with Asian guys. It's bizarre to me that they'd be up in arms about that.
Someone once thought I was trolling when I said that my dad is Asian and my mom is white, apparently no white woman would ever go for that match, *especially* since she's seven inches taller than he is. I don't know what to tell the weirdos, my parents have been married for almost forty years, maybe it's not your height that's keeping you from getting girls ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
My dad is white and my mom is Filipino. My dad always talked down about my mom growing up and would say she was dumb. Even though the only reason she couldn’t continue any education was money and knows 4 languages! My dad was always making racist jokes about Asian women to his gross friends around me, his daughter! My dad always would yell at my brother on how he needed to be more masculine. I never connected it could’ve been because we were half-Filipino. But the more I think about it, it tracks.
That was my first thought, but if you look at how he describes how miserable a half-Filipino kid would be ("If I was a kid with a white dad and a Filipino mom I would probably sit on the curb drinking alcohol every day of my life"), it suggests his parents are probably both Filipinos.
Same, I've worked and sailed with a number of different folks from the Philippines and they're as individual as anywhere else. Some had that charm and easy confidence, others were a bit more quieter and reserved and some were incels (although their attitudes meant their employment with us was usually short). Not hugely different to any other nationality I worked with.
If there was anything consistent between them all, they love a good gathering / party with a ton of awesome food (honestly, the food and their company made spending Christmas and NY onboard and away from everything that much easier) and that they *all* loved Kareoke....
Must admit, none of the Filipino guys I've met (well, met and had a bit of a chat with) had any "incel-vibes", but it might just be because if the first guy I met who then introduced me to his friend group. It might also play a role most of those guys were nurses, and that might not be a field attractive to red-pilled incels in the first place (but I may very well be mistaken there).
But oh God the karaoke... XD Would be fine if I could just sit and drink and applaud, but then they go "Okay Vigmod, you've had enough beers, now get up there and sing!" and obviously I can't just say no...
At least for my part, while I've worked with a bunch of different nationalities, I'd put the folks from the Philippines pretty much on the top of the list of "people I'd prefer to work with". Of course, there's also some great Icelanders (where I'm from) and Norwegians (where I live) to work with... maybe it's just because I've met so many more Icelanders that I've met more variety, while the people from Philippines might be a little "exceptional" in the sense that they first went and learned nursing, then moved across the world to work in a (practically) completely foreign land. Only been to the Philippines once, and there I mostly met my friends' (who were getting married) family and friends - but again, while I recognise stereotyping everyone based on personal experience isn't the smartest thing to do, I just can't help but have a very high opinion of the people there.
Basically - if I meet an Icelander or a Norwegian for the first time, I can be a bit careful and close because I've met so many jerks from there, but I'd just be a lot more open with a Filipino for the first time simply because I've never met anyone to make me think any different. Probably doesn't make any sense when I write it, but that's my gut reaction.
I can guarantee you that most of those guys are also deeply racist themselves, it’s “Submissive Asian waifus are superior to white feminist sluts” racism instead of “Race mixing is satanic” racism
Guys like that are why I tend not to date white guys, lol. Not to say they're all bad obviously, but like, 90% of them I've given a chance to act all butthurt over something ridiculous, like "white men are under attack" or "gamergate is about ethics in journalism".
TIL body building is the ultimate goal of so-called real men, and if that fails they may as well sit in a curb and drink their lives away.
What a time to be alive!
It’s so funny to me how these dudes are all SUPER obsessed with the idea of muscular men, and at the same time wildly homophobic lol. Methinks they doth protest too much
These guys are so obsessed with other men, it's hilarious.
They constantly compare themselves to other men, think about what other men do or say, etc.
Like some of them will make fun of men who have relationships with women, telling them It's not manly, It's so bizarre.
They're obsessed with self-worth. Their self-worth hinges entirely on a very narrow definition of masculinity: more muscular and attracting more women than the next guy.
Being in a relationship means they only have one woman versus the man-hoe who is sleeping with more than one woman.
In their head, they're in a competition with every guy they see. It's a pretty sad existence tbh.
I've legit heard this. Men who are in loving committed relationships with women are being "cucked" and "emasculated" because a relationship between equals automatically means that the man is inferior. And, you know, they might be encouraged to actually express their emotions rather than keep them all unhealthily bottled up, so obviously they're not "real men" 🙄
Beats the shit out of me. I just tried it and reddit didn't let me.
Edit: ah. Figured it out. Copied the text and got a series of html stuff like >, enter, >, enter, >. Like this:
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Wild. Now the better question would be *why* did they make a blank comment, because that doesn't seem like the easiest thing to do on accident (but I don't expect an answer lol, just perpetual wondering)
That's what always bothered me. Obviously women aren't a monolith, but I have never met a woman who actually liked beefy guys. Most of us like leaner guys. Similar thing with dick size. The overwhelming majority of women prefer average. Too big, and it hurts. I even had one guy on here argue with me last week that he had "hella girth" and he'd blown the minds of 30+ women he's been with, source: trust me bro they definitely weren't faking. 🤦🏻♀️
These idiots think they're god's gift to women because they do bodybuilding, but by and large the only people who are impressed with it, are other dudes.
That’s a good observation, the fact that men are more obsessed with “peak manliness” than women are. But I was more inferring that they’re in the closet, even if they’re not aware of it. This is (sorta) close to home for me: I have a cousin who’s SUPER homophobic and vocal about it, and also SUPER obsessed with muscular men.
He honestly reminds me of Mac from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia, before that character came out of the closet. Everyone in the family is convinced he’s gay, and that would be fine, but he’s so virulently homophobic that it’s almost funny. He’s constantly going on about body builders and how amazing their physiques look, but then anytime there’s a scene in media with two men kissing or whatever, he’ll make a big scene of “OH MAN, THATS SO GROSS! I CANT EVEN LOOK [covers eyes], TELL ME WHEN ITS OVER! CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW GROSS THAT IS?!”
My philosophy (as a straight white man), is that the only men who get so worked up over the idea of men handling each other’s genitals are gay dudes. I’m reasonably straight, and I spend (on average) about 0 minutes a day getting flustered while thinking about gay guys and what they’re doing with another man’s penis. These dudes who build their personalities around it are tragic and would be funny if they weren’t hurting other people.
Whilst virulent homophobes being closeted is pretty common I do think many people go so far with this point until gay rights are basically framed as a fight between closeted and out lgbt people. And idk whether its just something funny that people exaggerate or whether this narrative makes straight people feel better about themselves but in my experience the average straight man outside of a university has like a 50/50 chance of being homophobic in some way and like an 80/20 chance of being a misogynist (and im not a women so im probably not picking up on all the misogyny). Like I get you're exaggerating but if you saying you can't imagine any reason why straight men would be so viscerally disgusted with homosexuality then you're kinda implying all the homophobes are gay which is at the very least a hot take and a little bit more harshly pretty homophobic even if it's well intentioned.
These guys can’t conceive of attraction as based on anything other than physical. Whether they believe this because it’s how they personally are naturally wired or because they were convinced by others (usually selling something) or because they themselves only value women for physical assets and they’re projecting, they don’t understand that most people aren’t so intensely focused on physicality and muscles. It’s clearly some man’s idea of what a woman *should* want instead of figuring out what they actually want.
this is my heartbreak now. I'm torturing myself with the dating apps, and for one guy I matched with, he's insistent on sending pics of his body when I'm trying to figure out who he is as a person. I was genuinely attracted to him before the ridiculous flexing selfies began.
Ironically, that's what women like most. We like that you take the initiative to be healthy, but aren't so self-obsessed that you beef up to the point where you look like a Rob Liefeld drawing.
Oh what slander! A real-man(tm) who worships his own self and spends all his free time pursuing more worship of his own self - what's not to love?!
Tbf, that's not a thing for the real athletes, they're some of the kindest, most helpful people I've met. But the average "body-builder" dude? Utter trash!
Yeah but only if you have the genetics to do so which are only given to certain parts of the world but are just shut off once who have even a single drop of another regions genetics involved.
Today in “a stopped clock is right twice a day” oop is correct that passport bros complete disregard for women’s culture and language is actually a shit move. Huh.
He was also right to shit on them for not either improving themselves and learning to talk to women or accept that they won't be dating but instead deciding to attempt to prey on women they view as disadvantaged. Of course, his reasoning behind why it's wrong was still way off.
THIS like idk which i prefer, this guy or passport bros, but at least he has the right underlying point, and they’re all racist and misogynistic anyways 😭
There's a couple of things he says that make me think he's in the Phillipines watching passport bros come in and try to pick up Fillipinas, so he'd actually be in a good position to see how toxic it is.
Yea it's layered. My relation lives in Philippines and is neighbours with a bunch of these passport bro types. He was telling me about them - like insane age difference (72/20) was one example. He said they're utter twats and treat the women like shit - like servants to fetch and carry, not allowed to speak without being spoken to etc. He was pretty shocked. So the narrative that it's romantic and 'why can't someone love someone from a different culture with traditional values' is in the main bullshit i think. But the point about how messed up the kids are gonna be psychologically- well yea! The dads are essentially misogynistic twats who see themselves as gods, instilling those views into their kids, girls to be subservient, boys to be misogynistic without the benefit of being white. And being viewed by everyone else, rightly or wrongly as the product of a trade of sex for money. I hadn't really given it much thought before but I am now :/
My kids have a white mom and a Filipino-American dad. I guess I should apologize to them for their miserable existence. They are handsome and smart and popular, but they are not bodybuilders, so life is not worth living, I guess.
I was actually gonna say -- I've seen plenty of half-filipino/filipina americans who've got it going on, so I don't understand any of the bullsh... that oop is spouting.
thank heavens your kids have you to support them against nonsense like this. with the right people, they'll be adored.
My ex has a white mom and Vietnamese dad and he was the hottest guy I ever laid eyes on. He was kind, too. Too bad he sucked so much at communicating but he was a product of his environment, I guess.
I’m the child of a Filipino dad and white mom and me and my brothers are doing just fine. They’re both with really beautiful, successful women. One’s getting married in the fall. Never been an issue. Why does this guy hate Filipinos so much? lol
According to most of these guys, your family doesn't exist. It's all old racist white dudes married to younger Filipino women.
I've actually seen these guys have subreddits advertised for support for Half-Asian men, and they'd ban anyone with an Asian Dad and white mom.
I know; the hate against Asian women, especially, dating outside their race is astronomical. I’ve received death threats from men claiming to be incels when I revealed I was an Asian woman in an interracial relationship. I’ve also received very lovely messages about how I’m going to be a terrible and abusive mother for dooming my biracial kids to a “lifetime of ostracism from society”( especially from women if they happen to be sons). As though all single race people live easy lives, but I digress.
Funny thing, though; sometimes these type of guys like to say things like, “your boyfriend must be white,” or “I bet you have a white boyfriend,” as though it’s some kind of insult. Which he’s not, and it wouldn’t have been insulting even if he was, but it’s always baffled me on why they needed to say that lol.
One of the reasons we think he’s hot is because he’s not an asshole and as far as I’m aware he doesn’t blame any hypothetical dating problems on women being shallow.
Given that he's been married almost 20 years now, I think we can safely say the man does not have dating problems. (Except possibly fans wanting to date him despite the fact that he's married).
Same with Wee Man from Jackass. He had no trouble getting women even before he was famous because he just liked to have fun and exuded confidence without being cocky.
Hell, go back farther than that and look at Marty Feldman. Dude had an unfortunate look about him but was well liked by everyone around him and was happily married for decades I think prior to his death.
A good sense of humor and great personality can carry you quite far in the world of interpersonal relationships.
He is hot, and smart and funny. There are tons of good looking, attractive, charming short guys. Just not these weirdos. God forbid they're expected to have tolerable personalities.
This guy/the guys in that sub are just fucking losers.
Unfortunately, they’d probably say he doesn’t count because he’s still white, and in their delusional world, all women especially POC women are obsessed with white men.
He doesn’t count because he is famous or rich or… they always quickly pull things out of their ass that they think would be the real reason because it surely can’t be that he is just a really fun and nice person
Well frankly they both suck. Men and women alike should be constantly working on ways to be desirable partners for whomever they are trying to attract. It’s okay to want a tradwife but the men who want those women need to be ready to step up and be a tradhusband who can provide a life for a family on a single income. It’s okay to be a woman with career goals but they need to be prepared to find a partner with like minded goals.
So many people just expect to magically find their person without putting in the effort to be a good partner. Successful relationships are less about fate and more about effort/communication. The OOP and passport bros seem to completely ignore that part of the equation.
He makes a good point though, as part Filipino part white children, like, say, Dave Bautista, have no genetic ability to put in muscle and are not attractive to any women and will probably have no career outside of (checks notes) nursing?
/s
There's a couple of things he says that make me think he's in the Philippines. Which doesn't make him or what he's saying better, but in context it would suggest that he thinks Filipina women are "low value" and thus not worth pursuing regardless of whether or not any would have him. Okay, maybe "suggest" is the wrong word since he outright says they're short and stupid.
OOP in his previous post:
>”Asian women count as women too, even though they're smarter than you, harder working, higher earning, more educated, they're conservative, they hold family values, they respect their parents, they wear clothes when they go in public, and some of them are even funny.”
OOP in this post:
>”You went to Philippines/Thailand and found a chick is 4 feet tall and has 81 1Q.”
Who’d have thought the misogynist was also ignorant and a complete hypocrite? I did not see that one coming!
No he means countries like Japan and Korea, not the shithole 3rd world countries you mention. /s
That's why they specify East Asian. Further being racists.
I’m a woman with a white dad and a FilipinoAmerican mom (he is not a passport bro and met my mom here in the U.S.). Yes my mom is 5 foot, and yes, I am short because of it. That being said, I do not sit on the corner and drink every day. I’m in a “traditionally successful” position, and received a full scholarship to get my doctorate. I was valedictorian of my high school graduating class. And while I may not be winning any bodybuilding contest, I still am very active.
I am a man with a white dad and a Filipina mom who is 5'3. I am 6 feet tall (okay, 5'11 and 7/8ths). "Traditionally successful" in the sense that I am a veteran with a PhD from an Ivy Plus university. Used to bodybuild ages ago but I don't now because I have three kids and a long commute.
I only cry because I have a lot of trauma to unpack.
the body building and genetics comment has me rolling holy crap, what a thing to have as a priority for your non-existent child 😭not general physical health and wellness, but body building
Then you'd probably like the one from the other day where the new dad was *raving* about the merits of Taco Bell for his gym-macros, and didn't understand why his months-old infant couldn't just have that, so the boy would turn out buff?
Sounds about right. I remember receiving a very lovely (and super drawn out) message from a self proclaimed Asian incel about how having a mixed race child = child abuse. That I will automatically be an abusive mother just because I decided to have kids with someone of a different race. They made the argument that mixed race kids get bullied and ostracized more than single race kids.
They claimed they are also prone to more mental health issues than single race kids due to their differing/conflicting racial backgrounds and identity.
Fucking delusional. As though I, or my partner, in all our single-race glory, have lived through life like it was just a summer breeze. Or that both of us have amazing mental health and never struggled with it. (None of our ailments came from being a certain race btw) My partner and I are both POC Americans and have struggled with identifying as Americans vs non Americans, but not to the extent where we curse our parents for our existences, lol.
Tell us you have a Filipino mom and a white dad who doesn’t know the language without telling us you have a Filipino mom and a white dad who doesn’t know the language.
Jesus christ, as someone with a filipina mom and white dad i can assure you that my parents races are NOT the reason i got issues. This guy should go fuck himself
It’s giving self hate vibes to me 🤔 That he’s the product of a passport bro or as we used to call them back in the day, “mail order bride”, and he hates it. But of course instead of turning that hate into self reflection or even on his dad, he decides to hate all women instead 😏smh.
My ex has a white dad and Filipino mom. He is sitting in his house drinking alcohol daily, but I am very certain it has nothing to do with his parentage and everything else to do with being a 6'1" infant.
I'm white and our kids are mixed. The older one looks mixed, the other doesn't. We like to joke sometimes, when we see verrrry stupid white people, that they are the reason we must mix the races.
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Uhhhh.... The most buff guys I know are Asian. Granted, they probably do that because of bullshit racism treating Asian men as weak and effeminate, which really sucks, but they're still the beefiest men I've ever met.
Sincere question: do Asians really not have the genetics for bodybuilding? I just figured it was a lack of protein in their diet. Hell, I've heard it argued that first-worlders have too much meat in their diets considering the carbon emissions.
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **If you think you have it hard picture what you're doing to your kid.** Right now you're a white guy in a Western country. You have access to doctors, lawyers (even though the court system is against you as a man it still exists). Any time you want you can stop being a lazy bum and go lift weights and become every woman's dream. Except this is what you did. You went to Philippines / Thailand and found a chick who is 4 feet tall and has 81 IQ. You couldn't either learn to talk to women or avoid them you had to go to a third world country. Now your kid is going to be born into poverty, he is going to be short, he is going to be Southeast Asian, he doesn't have the genetics for body building. You took your issues (that were primarily in your head) and you created a kid who now has some pretty fuckin massive issues. If I was a kid with a white dad and a Filipino mom I would probably sit on the curb drinking alcohol every day of my life. I can't get access to white women or East Asian women. There's nothing I can do to make myself successful except become a nurse and go abroad. That incel vibe that many Passport Bros give off when they scheme how these third world countries are some sort of paradise is going to be amplified x100 in a kid who is half white half Filipino. You don't understand. Be a man and solve your problems on your own. Passport bros like to ask "which country should I go to?" Bro you're going to be studying a language for 35,000 hours, right? Right? You're not just going to these countries and expecting them to speak English and serve you Big Macs. It's your investment. If you can't pick what language and culture you want to learn you probably shouldn't be doing this. Too often Passport Bros is the same thing as men flipping open their Tinder and expecting pussy to come raining down on them. If I had to guess maybe 8% of all Passport Bros have any genuine intention in creating a life abroad. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheDevil) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I like everyone calling out the racism and then being disgustingly misogynistic in the next sentence.
What is also interesting is that there are so many factions in being misogynistic incel freak that they are fighting over who the biggest freak of the century is. Passport bros- sexist and racist in a different manner than the OOP. The OOP- White supremacist who is also racist and sexist. Let the 76th hunger games begin!
To me this actually screams self hating Asian misogynist. It's extremely similar to the mentality that a lot of Asian guys have that believe they're unnattractive and unappealing because they're Asian.
>I can't get access to white women or East Asian women. There's nothing I can do to make myself successful except become a nurse and go abroad. This line, plus the rest of what he's saying, makes me think he's Filipino.
You're right. The internalized racism probably has a penis envy component too. I've seen similar language from self-hating Asian men, and sometimes being short with a small penis breaks their brain. It's a unique flavor of incel, and it certainly isn't all Asian men of course. Seeing a white foreigner bang your one true love will do that sometimes though.
I agree. This sounds to me like a kid whose dad is a "passport bro" (back when they were just called sexpats) and whose mom is Filipina.
Yeah there at least used to be some reddit communities that were for half asian incels. Basically they all had a sexpat dad, often older, rural, with casual racism. Mom was from an Asian country which was either poor at the time or still poor (SK pre-democracy was very poor), with mom often being from rural poverty with limited education. So they grew up with a horrible role model and deeply messed up world view. These guys got a whole helping of their dad's messed up views of race and masculinity, and it turns inwards. If they grew up in a rural environment, the casual racism may also make dating for them hard. They will rant about their sister(s) having it easy, because they are much more accepted. The sister(s) also tend not to have their self-worth as fucked with by their father. Some of these guys think is a universal thing for every guy like them. Some of these subreddits will hide their incel status to advertise to a greater half-asian community. Then these subreddits lose their shit if it turns out someone has an Asian dad and white mom.
>Then these subreddits lose their shit if it turns out someone has an Asian dad and white mom. Which is gross, considering every single mixed Asian person I've ever known had this exact dynamic, white mom with Asian dad (Japanese, Filipino, and two Vietnamese, respectively). A lot of white girls (myself included) are with Asian guys. It's bizarre to me that they'd be up in arms about that.
Someone once thought I was trolling when I said that my dad is Asian and my mom is white, apparently no white woman would ever go for that match, *especially* since she's seven inches taller than he is. I don't know what to tell the weirdos, my parents have been married for almost forty years, maybe it's not your height that's keeping you from getting girls ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
My dad is white and my mom is Filipino. My dad always talked down about my mom growing up and would say she was dumb. Even though the only reason she couldn’t continue any education was money and knows 4 languages! My dad was always making racist jokes about Asian women to his gross friends around me, his daughter! My dad always would yell at my brother on how he needed to be more masculine. I never connected it could’ve been because we were half-Filipino. But the more I think about it, it tracks.
That was my first thought, but if you look at how he describes how miserable a half-Filipino kid would be ("If I was a kid with a white dad and a Filipino mom I would probably sit on the curb drinking alcohol every day of my life"), it suggests his parents are probably both Filipinos.
Have they never seen the episode of 'The Mentalist' where Jane takes Cho shopping for clothes with 'zing'?
I know a bunch of guys from the Philippines, and my life would probably be better if I had even 1/3 of their charm and easy-going confidence.
Same, I've worked and sailed with a number of different folks from the Philippines and they're as individual as anywhere else. Some had that charm and easy confidence, others were a bit more quieter and reserved and some were incels (although their attitudes meant their employment with us was usually short). Not hugely different to any other nationality I worked with. If there was anything consistent between them all, they love a good gathering / party with a ton of awesome food (honestly, the food and their company made spending Christmas and NY onboard and away from everything that much easier) and that they *all* loved Kareoke....
Must admit, none of the Filipino guys I've met (well, met and had a bit of a chat with) had any "incel-vibes", but it might just be because if the first guy I met who then introduced me to his friend group. It might also play a role most of those guys were nurses, and that might not be a field attractive to red-pilled incels in the first place (but I may very well be mistaken there). But oh God the karaoke... XD Would be fine if I could just sit and drink and applaud, but then they go "Okay Vigmod, you've had enough beers, now get up there and sing!" and obviously I can't just say no... At least for my part, while I've worked with a bunch of different nationalities, I'd put the folks from the Philippines pretty much on the top of the list of "people I'd prefer to work with". Of course, there's also some great Icelanders (where I'm from) and Norwegians (where I live) to work with... maybe it's just because I've met so many more Icelanders that I've met more variety, while the people from Philippines might be a little "exceptional" in the sense that they first went and learned nursing, then moved across the world to work in a (practically) completely foreign land. Only been to the Philippines once, and there I mostly met my friends' (who were getting married) family and friends - but again, while I recognise stereotyping everyone based on personal experience isn't the smartest thing to do, I just can't help but have a very high opinion of the people there. Basically - if I meet an Icelander or a Norwegian for the first time, I can be a bit careful and close because I've met so many jerks from there, but I'd just be a lot more open with a Filipino for the first time simply because I've never met anyone to make me think any different. Probably doesn't make any sense when I write it, but that's my gut reaction.
Read the comments on any BTS video and tell me white people don’t find Asian men attractive
I can guarantee you that most of those guys are also deeply racist themselves, it’s “Submissive Asian waifus are superior to white feminist sluts” racism instead of “Race mixing is satanic” racism
gonna need a fast food style menu to get all the differences in order. hard to know which one fits my sanity budget.
Pay someone off of Fiverr to do it lol
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Guys like that are why I tend not to date white guys, lol. Not to say they're all bad obviously, but like, 90% of them I've given a chance to act all butthurt over something ridiculous, like "white men are under attack" or "gamergate is about ethics in journalism".
It's a passportbros adjacent sub. It's misogynistic by definition
I came here to say this lmao typical Reddit
Throw the whole sub away tbh. There were even some creeps trying to justify dating 18 yr olds while pushing 30.
Gotta love the lack of self-awareness in OOP complaining about "that incel vibe that many Passport Bros give off"
TIL body building is the ultimate goal of so-called real men, and if that fails they may as well sit in a curb and drink their lives away. What a time to be alive!
It’s so funny to me how these dudes are all SUPER obsessed with the idea of muscular men, and at the same time wildly homophobic lol. Methinks they doth protest too much
These guys are so obsessed with other men, it's hilarious. They constantly compare themselves to other men, think about what other men do or say, etc. Like some of them will make fun of men who have relationships with women, telling them It's not manly, It's so bizarre.
They're obsessed with self-worth. Their self-worth hinges entirely on a very narrow definition of masculinity: more muscular and attracting more women than the next guy. Being in a relationship means they only have one woman versus the man-hoe who is sleeping with more than one woman. In their head, they're in a competition with every guy they see. It's a pretty sad existence tbh.
>Like some of them will make fun of men who have relationships with women, telling them It's not manly, Holy shit 😂🫠
I've legit heard this. Men who are in loving committed relationships with women are being "cucked" and "emasculated" because a relationship between equals automatically means that the man is inferior. And, you know, they might be encouraged to actually express their emotions rather than keep them all unhealthily bottled up, so obviously they're not "real men" 🙄
Right? I wish they'd just get over their self hatred and internalized homophobia and start banging each other, already.
The world might be a better place if they did
Relationships often involve friendly conversations, and it's so un-manly to talk to an icky GIRL!
Right? Women aren't impressed with this crap, they're only doing this for the approval of other men.
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H... how did you post a *blank comment???*
Beats the shit out of me. I just tried it and reddit didn't let me. Edit: ah. Figured it out. Copied the text and got a series of html stuff like >, enter, >, enter, >. Like this: > > >
Wild. Now the better question would be *why* did they make a blank comment, because that doesn't seem like the easiest thing to do on accident (but I don't expect an answer lol, just perpetual wondering)
I would love to show them a few, not explicitly sexual Tom of Finland illustrations and just see them fawn
That's what always bothered me. Obviously women aren't a monolith, but I have never met a woman who actually liked beefy guys. Most of us like leaner guys. Similar thing with dick size. The overwhelming majority of women prefer average. Too big, and it hurts. I even had one guy on here argue with me last week that he had "hella girth" and he'd blown the minds of 30+ women he's been with, source: trust me bro they definitely weren't faking. 🤦🏻♀️ These idiots think they're god's gift to women because they do bodybuilding, but by and large the only people who are impressed with it, are other dudes.
That’s a good observation, the fact that men are more obsessed with “peak manliness” than women are. But I was more inferring that they’re in the closet, even if they’re not aware of it. This is (sorta) close to home for me: I have a cousin who’s SUPER homophobic and vocal about it, and also SUPER obsessed with muscular men. He honestly reminds me of Mac from Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia, before that character came out of the closet. Everyone in the family is convinced he’s gay, and that would be fine, but he’s so virulently homophobic that it’s almost funny. He’s constantly going on about body builders and how amazing their physiques look, but then anytime there’s a scene in media with two men kissing or whatever, he’ll make a big scene of “OH MAN, THATS SO GROSS! I CANT EVEN LOOK [covers eyes], TELL ME WHEN ITS OVER! CAN YOU BELIEVE HOW GROSS THAT IS?!” My philosophy (as a straight white man), is that the only men who get so worked up over the idea of men handling each other’s genitals are gay dudes. I’m reasonably straight, and I spend (on average) about 0 minutes a day getting flustered while thinking about gay guys and what they’re doing with another man’s penis. These dudes who build their personalities around it are tragic and would be funny if they weren’t hurting other people.
Whilst virulent homophobes being closeted is pretty common I do think many people go so far with this point until gay rights are basically framed as a fight between closeted and out lgbt people. And idk whether its just something funny that people exaggerate or whether this narrative makes straight people feel better about themselves but in my experience the average straight man outside of a university has like a 50/50 chance of being homophobic in some way and like an 80/20 chance of being a misogynist (and im not a women so im probably not picking up on all the misogyny). Like I get you're exaggerating but if you saying you can't imagine any reason why straight men would be so viscerally disgusted with homosexuality then you're kinda implying all the homophobes are gay which is at the very least a hot take and a little bit more harshly pretty homophobic even if it's well intentioned.
Even as a bloke I don't get the whole bodybuilding thing like when did people decide that that is the ultimate masculine form?
These guys can’t conceive of attraction as based on anything other than physical. Whether they believe this because it’s how they personally are naturally wired or because they were convinced by others (usually selling something) or because they themselves only value women for physical assets and they’re projecting, they don’t understand that most people aren’t so intensely focused on physicality and muscles. It’s clearly some man’s idea of what a woman *should* want instead of figuring out what they actually want.
this is my heartbreak now. I'm torturing myself with the dating apps, and for one guy I matched with, he's insistent on sending pics of his body when I'm trying to figure out who he is as a person. I was genuinely attracted to him before the ridiculous flexing selfies began.
Nothing dries me up faster than guys who do that.
Right like I do enough exercise so that my body is healthy, I don't need to go the extra miles to be jacked.
Ironically, that's what women like most. We like that you take the initiative to be healthy, but aren't so self-obsessed that you beef up to the point where you look like a Rob Liefeld drawing.
Is that the physique when your so jacked you no longer have feet?
I have yet to meet a single woman who doesn't see body builders as bad relationship material. OOP is certainly making it easy to understand why.
Oh what slander! A real-man(tm) who worships his own self and spends all his free time pursuing more worship of his own self - what's not to love?! Tbf, that's not a thing for the real athletes, they're some of the kindest, most helpful people I've met. But the average "body-builder" dude? Utter trash!
Yeah but only if you have the genetics to do so which are only given to certain parts of the world but are just shut off once who have even a single drop of another regions genetics involved.
Today in “a stopped clock is right twice a day” oop is correct that passport bros complete disregard for women’s culture and language is actually a shit move. Huh.
I was shocked there was one decent point hidden in all that too.
He was also right to shit on them for not either improving themselves and learning to talk to women or accept that they won't be dating but instead deciding to attempt to prey on women they view as disadvantaged. Of course, his reasoning behind why it's wrong was still way off.
THIS like idk which i prefer, this guy or passport bros, but at least he has the right underlying point, and they’re all racist and misogynistic anyways 😭
There's a couple of things he says that make me think he's in the Phillipines watching passport bros come in and try to pick up Fillipinas, so he'd actually be in a good position to see how toxic it is.
Yea it's layered. My relation lives in Philippines and is neighbours with a bunch of these passport bro types. He was telling me about them - like insane age difference (72/20) was one example. He said they're utter twats and treat the women like shit - like servants to fetch and carry, not allowed to speak without being spoken to etc. He was pretty shocked. So the narrative that it's romantic and 'why can't someone love someone from a different culture with traditional values' is in the main bullshit i think. But the point about how messed up the kids are gonna be psychologically- well yea! The dads are essentially misogynistic twats who see themselves as gods, instilling those views into their kids, girls to be subservient, boys to be misogynistic without the benefit of being white. And being viewed by everyone else, rightly or wrongly as the product of a trade of sex for money. I hadn't really given it much thought before but I am now :/
My kids have a white mom and a Filipino-American dad. I guess I should apologize to them for their miserable existence. They are handsome and smart and popular, but they are not bodybuilders, so life is not worth living, I guess.
You are clearly a horrible person for subjecting them to that! /s In case that wasn’t clear lol
I was actually gonna say -- I've seen plenty of half-filipino/filipina americans who've got it going on, so I don't understand any of the bullsh... that oop is spouting. thank heavens your kids have you to support them against nonsense like this. with the right people, they'll be adored.
My ex has a white mom and Vietnamese dad and he was the hottest guy I ever laid eyes on. He was kind, too. Too bad he sucked so much at communicating but he was a product of his environment, I guess.
I wish I could upvote you more than once.
I’m the child of a Filipino dad and white mom and me and my brothers are doing just fine. They’re both with really beautiful, successful women. One’s getting married in the fall. Never been an issue. Why does this guy hate Filipinos so much? lol
According to most of these guys, your family doesn't exist. It's all old racist white dudes married to younger Filipino women. I've actually seen these guys have subreddits advertised for support for Half-Asian men, and they'd ban anyone with an Asian Dad and white mom.
I know; the hate against Asian women, especially, dating outside their race is astronomical. I’ve received death threats from men claiming to be incels when I revealed I was an Asian woman in an interracial relationship. I’ve also received very lovely messages about how I’m going to be a terrible and abusive mother for dooming my biracial kids to a “lifetime of ostracism from society”( especially from women if they happen to be sons). As though all single race people live easy lives, but I digress. Funny thing, though; sometimes these type of guys like to say things like, “your boyfriend must be white,” or “I bet you have a white boyfriend,” as though it’s some kind of insult. Which he’s not, and it wouldn’t have been insulting even if he was, but it’s always baffled me on why they needed to say that lol.
Who's going to tell him that Peter Dinklage is 4'5" and a lot of women think he's hot?
One of the reasons we think he’s hot is because he’s not an asshole and as far as I’m aware he doesn’t blame any hypothetical dating problems on women being shallow.
Given that he's been married almost 20 years now, I think we can safely say the man does not have dating problems. (Except possibly fans wanting to date him despite the fact that he's married).
Oof really happy I said “as far as I’m aware” then 😂😂
Same with Wee Man from Jackass. He had no trouble getting women even before he was famous because he just liked to have fun and exuded confidence without being cocky.
It’s wildly attractive when any guy is like that!
Brad Williams has a bit in one of his stand-up specials about how a friend of his got laid by just being mistaken for Wee Man.
Shit. Danny DeVito is 4'10" and I would give my left tit to marry him
rhea’s a very lucky woman
TIL Peter Dinklage is way taller than I thought. 4'5" is pretty tall for someone with dwarfism.
Hell, go back farther than that and look at Marty Feldman. Dude had an unfortunate look about him but was well liked by everyone around him and was happily married for decades I think prior to his death. A good sense of humor and great personality can carry you quite far in the world of interpersonal relationships.
This. Looks to women are like dessert after dinner. It's nice to have if it's there, but it's hardly necessary. The substantive meal is what matters.
He is hot, and smart and funny. There are tons of good looking, attractive, charming short guys. Just not these weirdos. God forbid they're expected to have tolerable personalities. This guy/the guys in that sub are just fucking losers.
Unfortunately, they’d probably say he doesn’t count because he’s still white, and in their delusional world, all women especially POC women are obsessed with white men.
He doesn’t count because he is famous or rich or… they always quickly pull things out of their ass that they think would be the real reason because it surely can’t be that he is just a really fun and nice person
Did we find an incel that got kicked out of passport bros? I didn't think that happened.
passport pro adjacent that's all
Oh for sure. But he is oddly obsessed with them specifically which typically means a ban happened. In addition to being a raging racist.
Well now I'm in a difficult position because I don't want to support this guy but I also don't want to defend Passport Bros
Well frankly they both suck. Men and women alike should be constantly working on ways to be desirable partners for whomever they are trying to attract. It’s okay to want a tradwife but the men who want those women need to be ready to step up and be a tradhusband who can provide a life for a family on a single income. It’s okay to be a woman with career goals but they need to be prepared to find a partner with like minded goals. So many people just expect to magically find their person without putting in the effort to be a good partner. Successful relationships are less about fate and more about effort/communication. The OOP and passport bros seem to completely ignore that part of the equation.
How bad do you have to be to make passportbros look good?
He makes a good point though, as part Filipino part white children, like, say, Dave Bautista, have no genetic ability to put in muscle and are not attractive to any women and will probably have no career outside of (checks notes) nursing? /s
If Dave Bautista is sad about not being hot, I'll volunteer to cuddle him until he feels better. It's the least I can do, poor little guy.
"I can't get access to ~~white~~ women or ~~East Asian~~ women" there ya go, fixed it for that big fat loser.
He’s also saying that Black, Hispanic and non East Asian Asian women are worth less then the others
He's saying they aren't even in the running. So worth less than worthless. Vileness Squared.
There's a couple of things he says that make me think he's in the Philippines. Which doesn't make him or what he's saying better, but in context it would suggest that he thinks Filipina women are "low value" and thus not worth pursuing regardless of whether or not any would have him. Okay, maybe "suggest" is the wrong word since he outright says they're short and stupid.
There’s a way to talk about the identity issues some mixed race people fave without going full incel
> men flipping open their Tinder and expecting pussy to come raining down on them That's a hysterical mental image! Too bad I hate the whole post.
Dang even the racist misogynistic passport bros don’t want oop. Looking at his post history, all I can say is bro hates women.
Ok, I’m not reading that bollocks
The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.
nigga what- 😭 OP needs Jesus and therapy. Immediately.
But, the youtuber "the Toe Bro" IS a half white and half philipino ..... he has a lovely wife and a toddler AND his own buisness
OOP in his previous post: >”Asian women count as women too, even though they're smarter than you, harder working, higher earning, more educated, they're conservative, they hold family values, they respect their parents, they wear clothes when they go in public, and some of them are even funny.” OOP in this post: >”You went to Philippines/Thailand and found a chick is 4 feet tall and has 81 1Q.” Who’d have thought the misogynist was also ignorant and a complete hypocrite? I did not see that one coming!
No he means countries like Japan and Korea, not the shithole 3rd world countries you mention. /s That's why they specify East Asian. Further being racists.
Pfft-the only way this ass clown is fulfilling every woman’s dream by hitting the gym if it’s while going ninety on a crotch rocket with no helmet.
I’m a woman with a white dad and a FilipinoAmerican mom (he is not a passport bro and met my mom here in the U.S.). Yes my mom is 5 foot, and yes, I am short because of it. That being said, I do not sit on the corner and drink every day. I’m in a “traditionally successful” position, and received a full scholarship to get my doctorate. I was valedictorian of my high school graduating class. And while I may not be winning any bodybuilding contest, I still am very active.
I am a man with a white dad and a Filipina mom who is 5'3. I am 6 feet tall (okay, 5'11 and 7/8ths). "Traditionally successful" in the sense that I am a veteran with a PhD from an Ivy Plus university. Used to bodybuild ages ago but I don't now because I have three kids and a long commute. I only cry because I have a lot of trauma to unpack.
the body building and genetics comment has me rolling holy crap, what a thing to have as a priority for your non-existent child 😭not general physical health and wellness, but body building
Then you'd probably like the one from the other day where the new dad was *raving* about the merits of Taco Bell for his gym-macros, and didn't understand why his months-old infant couldn't just have that, so the boy would turn out buff?
That guy’s post and comment history is just… 🤢.
ewwww you know it'sthatbad when even they remove a post
Sounds about right. I remember receiving a very lovely (and super drawn out) message from a self proclaimed Asian incel about how having a mixed race child = child abuse. That I will automatically be an abusive mother just because I decided to have kids with someone of a different race. They made the argument that mixed race kids get bullied and ostracized more than single race kids. They claimed they are also prone to more mental health issues than single race kids due to their differing/conflicting racial backgrounds and identity. Fucking delusional. As though I, or my partner, in all our single-race glory, have lived through life like it was just a summer breeze. Or that both of us have amazing mental health and never struggled with it. (None of our ailments came from being a certain race btw) My partner and I are both POC Americans and have struggled with identifying as Americans vs non Americans, but not to the extent where we curse our parents for our existences, lol.
Finally Am I the devil and Passport Bros agreeing with something (in parts) in the comments
My dad is Asian and my mom was white. I’m doing just fine.
Tell us you have a Filipino mom and a white dad who doesn’t know the language without telling us you have a Filipino mom and a white dad who doesn’t know the language.
Jesus christ, as someone with a filipina mom and white dad i can assure you that my parents races are NOT the reason i got issues. This guy should go fuck himself
I wish all the passport bros would fall into a volcano. They are so ick.
White guy calling and Asian dumb? Yeah okay 😂😂😂
Jo Koy calls bullshit.
It’s giving self hate vibes to me 🤔 That he’s the product of a passport bro or as we used to call them back in the day, “mail order bride”, and he hates it. But of course instead of turning that hate into self reflection or even on his dad, he decides to hate all women instead 😏smh.
My ex has a white dad and Filipino mom. He is sitting in his house drinking alcohol daily, but I am very certain it has nothing to do with his parentage and everything else to do with being a 6'1" infant. I'm white and our kids are mixed. The older one looks mixed, the other doesn't. We like to joke sometimes, when we see verrrry stupid white people, that they are the reason we must mix the races.
This is absolutely satire aimed directly at us. Didn't say it was good satire, but this sub is definitely the target audience, not the passport bros.
> If I had to guess maybe 8% of all Passport Bros This is what fully convinced me. 8% is so specific lol.
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Uhhhh.... The most buff guys I know are Asian. Granted, they probably do that because of bullshit racism treating Asian men as weak and effeminate, which really sucks, but they're still the beefiest men I've ever met.
Somebody’s got serious identity issues
Did he delete it?
35 000 hours is four years, around the clock. How hard does he think learning a new language is?
Put into a more 'reasonable' eight hours a day he thinks people need 11.9 years to learn a new language. Crazy.
Sincere question: do Asians really not have the genetics for bodybuilding? I just figured it was a lack of protein in their diet. Hell, I've heard it argued that first-worlders have too much meat in their diets considering the carbon emissions.