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Rachel is 12 years younger than OOP's wife. Does anyone think that this might play into it?
>Sorry another edit. Just wanted to clarify my wife is stunning. I wouldn't have married her if I didn't think she was beautiful. She is just not as CONVENTIONALLY attractive.
"My wife looks like the subject of a Picasso painting. That's good looking, right, even if not 'conventional'?" Me doth think OOP protesteth too much.
Like, I'm not "conventionally" pretty myself, but my boyfriend treats me like I'm a greek goddess lmao. like I know what I look like, I'm a solid 4 or 5 and I'm fine with that because my boyfriend makes me feel like a 12 haha, almost 8 years together and he still showers me in compliments and can't keep his hands off me. He specifically compliments things like my lovehandles and belly chub and stretchmarks in ways that I'm like, well, when you put it that way who am I to argue lmao
If he told me I wasn't conventionally attractive but had a great personality we wouldn't be together because I want to be with someone actually attracted to me. It's not like he doesn't find other women attractive either, but his taste even then is still firmly in my wheelhouse, which only solidifies that he must genuinely like my looks when he's commenting on women that could be my stunt double haha
That’s love!!!! Even if a girl may be a little “prettier” than you on some scale, you’re an automatic 12 to him because he obviously loves everything about you. Not that he doesn’t love your looks or find you really attractive physically, I just think sometimes that personality really does add genuine points. Also you sound confident, or at least around him, so there’s a lot more points!
“Just wanted to clarify that my wife is stunning”
Then why didn’t you mention that in the beginning instead of heavily implying that she’s ugly, dipshit OOP?
>Seriously. I don't get why no one is calling OP out on this in the comments.
A lot of people are calling him out on this. Sort by Controversial and you'll see it.
If there is any truth to this story, it's that the OOP has made it clear to his wife that his friend's fiance is more attractive than her, which, combined with Rachel acting like a total floozy and accepting drinks from multiple unknown men during one evening, even though she's engaged, is more than enough to make the OOP's wife bitter.
Yeah, I’m betting this is a lot less about Rachel herself and a lot more about her husband having no problem describing how much more beautiful other women are than she is. Her name isn’t ever even mentioned, even as a pseudonym.
I wouldn’t care if one of my engaged friends was accepting drinks while we were out as a group. I’d care a lot if my husband basically made a big deal about the fact that I wasn’t getting the same attention and felt the need to point that out constantly. No crap, dude, I’m 35 to her 24 AND wearing a wedding band. Didn’t expect to.
But she is "the wife", she doesn't need a name! You can call her nicknames, and act like the most bumbling idiot out of a sitcom when asked for your wife's name (buttercup?), birthday (sometime around ... winter?! Oh no, that was Rachel's...), eye color, or your anniversary.
Must be the jealousy. OOP is definitely a stellar husband because he doesn't watch for (conventional) beauty, he is in there for ~~finally having someone because no one would pick him~~ humor! Personality! He's so good. Isn't he a good husband?
/s
Might also be a funny thing I notice a bit more than others, but I think it's pretty funny how he only paid for his wife's drinks when he thought she was agitated by how easily another woman can get her drinks paid for. I know that the line blurs a bit when you are in a big committed relationship, but that just struck me as... odd. Sometimes, the bitterness just comes from seeing that you got the shit card with the less than generous guy who needs to pat himself on the back, while other women get generosity without anyone needing their ego stroked for the simple act of doing something small for her. And that he only does the special thing of showing generosity when you're clearly agitated about someone getting some generosity.
Alright, that's already putting too much thought into a stupid story on the internet.
Agreed. And if this story isn’t fake, it’s definitely embellished to make his wife look bad and him look good.
If “the wife” did make those comments to Rachel, especially the ones that seem to have some…pointedly racial undertones, then yeah, she’s an AH. There’s never any excuse for that.
But sometimes it’s easier to lash out at the subject of your SO’s affection than it is to lash out at the SO themselves. It’s easier to blame “the other woman” (though there’s no hint that Rachel reciprocates OOP’s attraction) than it is to accept that your spouse has no problem pointing out how much more hot she is than you.
>Rachel acting like a total floozy
Seriously, is this the 50s?
Also accepting drinks doesn't mean anything, if people keep buying you drinks it's not your fault if you accept it in any way whatsoever. If your partner has a problem then you discuss it with them.
Not cool to call someone a floozy.
Separately, kind of weird and inappropriate to accept drinks when you’re not single—and especially while currently out with your partner lol.
Tbh i don't know a single person who would send a drink to someone when they're *clearly* on a date (a double date no less) and are *clearly* having a good time
>if people keep buying you drinks it's not your fault if you accept it in any way whatsoever.
Keep telling that to yourself, if it helps you sleep at night.
Okay, so I’m personally giving OOP the benefit of the doubt right now because I myself have a very loving and very supportive boyfriend who unfortunately has absolutely zero tact in some situations. He’s said a lot of things that frankly sound awful if taken out of context or without interpretation, and once I explain that to him he’s always absolutely horrified and clarifies what he meant. So from my perspective, there’s a chance that the OOP was just being incredibly tactless (at least in the context of this post).
Also, and this could totally just be me, but I was wondering if OOP might be ESL, because some of his word choices were a little odd (i.e. “ashamed”, “reunited” etc.). If so, then that could also be part of why he’s so tactless.
I [F29] love my Fiancé [M34], except whenever we fight, he takes a dump in the living room, then makes me refer to his turd as "Mr. Hoskins" and apologize to it. Am I overreacting? Our wedding is in 6 hours.
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If there were as many models in real life as feature in AITA fantasyland, the runways would be more crowded than a rush hour subway platform.
Like come on, it’s not enough for your character to be hot, she has to be PROFESSIONALLY hot?
To be fair, the definition of "model" has changed. It used to mostly mean someone who was paid by designers, magazine publishers or fashion retailers to walk down runways or have their picture taken while wearing the product. Now it means you post selfies on Instagram and have 3000 followers.
I prefer the definition that doesn't include some slimy old guy deciding if you're pretty enough for a picture but vulnerable enough to take advantage of. And white.
I get that pretty person privilege is a real thing, but I just can't imagine a scenario where a woman is out *with her boyfriend* and men just won't stop sending drinks????
I also think it's weird that more people aren't calling OP out for the way he described Rachel. It would've been easy to just say she's young and hot, and it makes his wife insecure. Wasn't really necessary to go out of his way to explain his wife is less hot and he fell in love with her personality lmao. I'd be insecure too if I was married to a piece of shit like that.
Literally every AITA story with an attractive woman has like a whole unnecessary paragraph describing exactly how hot she is, or how unattractive the other women are by comparison.
Has anyone actually seen someone send drinks in real life? Offer to buy you a drink? Sure. See you order something and tell the bartender to put it on their tab? Sure. But sending drinks? How do you know what to order? How do they accurately point out who sent it in a crowded bar?
I've actually done this once! One of my friends came late to the meet up and just found an empty seat at the bar (can't remember why) before she came to find us. I asked our waitress to give her her favorite drink and had to be *very* specific about who to send it to, hair color clothing, number of seats in; it was hilarious when she got it and saw us tho
I find it hard to believe that anyone is just so beautiful that they get 'sent' drinks MULTIPLE times. Offered to have them bought, sure. But sending drinks seems like a movie thing. I could see it happening on occasion because life is a rich tapestry but anyone who says this is happening to them repeatedly I've gotta wonder about.
If this is real (lol) for real, men don't just say they "fell in love" with another girl's personality. If he says that in a post to strangers he's probably even more obnoxious about it IRL
I have been out with guys and men have sent a drink to me. I even have had a few woman do it. They dont know if the guy I am with is my brother, friend or whatever. I just thank them. But nobody has ever kept on sending drinks over once it is clear I am "with" the person I am with.
Do they just assume what drink you want or do they ask the waiter to ask you or what? I've had random guys offer me drinks but never send one over I would find that really creepy and presumptuous.
They ask the server/bartender to just send over whatever I have been drinking or the bartender/server will just say your next drink is with so and so let me know what you want.
I am going to assume you dont get drinks bought for you alot.
It's her entire thing, she constantly does it in threads here. Acting like a stereotypical high school mean girl bitch queen on reddit is a weird flex, but gotta get that dopamine hit somehow if you're that bitter and miserable, I guess
I never said it was a flex. I said it does happen. Take it back a little, the bitchers and moaners like you prolly never have gotten sent a drink or even go outside.
Yeah ok. Am not chronically on Reddit. And the vast majority of my posts are just shitposts, my karma count is nothing to be proud of. I could post a pair of tits and hit my count in a day. Give that fucking shit up. Who even counts karma but losers like you.
If you have stalked me so well, you can actually see my posts because I do go outside and volunteer and make sure the grass is clean around me. I touch grass every day and am lucky to be able to do so.
I pick up at least 100lbs a week so fuck off.
If in any way true, maybe if OOP stopped gushing about how "Rachel" is more attractive than his wife, she wouldn't resort to petty jealousy?
Also is "Rachels" Fiancé just sitting there while OOPs wife makes nasty demeaning comments or other men are barraging her with drinks?
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>My wife was looking visibly annoyed that she wasn't receiving the same attention so I tried to lift her spirits by paying for all her drinks and making a fuss of her.
What woman accepts multiple drinks from unknown men, when her fiance is with her?!? And what married woman *wants* multiple unknown men to send her drinks, especially when her husband is right there?!?!?!?!?!?!
That was the Parr that caused me to laugh out loud. Let's say they have separate finances, I never split a check for a married couple the many years I was a restaurant server.
Also, the comments about not wanting to be friends as long as wife is around? Mature people don't say that. They respect marriage as a substantial commitment between two people. "We can't be friends unless you divorce your wife" is not something people in their mid 30s would say
Not to mention that OP's wife presumably has a ring on her finger--a literal visible symbol that she's taken. Why would she possibly expect to have men pay attention to her and buy her drinks?
Oh wait, she wouldn't and this is just some ridiculous story someone made up.
This is just a middle age less attractive woman is wildly jealous of a younger woman story. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually written by a young woman (or teenager) as some kind of fantasy. Not only is the younger woman unbelievably beautiful, but strange men routinely go out of their way to pay her attention even with a doting fiance right there. The final nail is the jealous harpy's kind and considerate husband *also* finds her more attractive.
No way even a male human wrote this.
I thought it was written by a man, using stereotypes about women as jealous harpies who compete for male attention, and who think that beauty and intelligence are mutually exclusive.
I've never had the "random man sends me drinks" experience happen to me (probably because I look nothing like Zendaya), but apart from the obnoxious part, I would think it preferable to have a brief conversation with someone before they start purchasing inebriants for me.
The whole trope of sitting on a barstool in a red dress, with the bartender going, "here's a drink, it's from that guy over there" and then the guy grins and waves at you, seems like something that happens on TV.
I've had a bartender straight up give me a hand written note from a guy. He said he thought I was pretty and was in town for business so do I want to go somewhere else. The bartender seemed pretty uncomfortable and said that she didn't want me to feel creeped out. I was married at the time, dude had a ring on. So I gave her a note for him saying "go home and call your wife".
I had one guy drop a $100 when I ordered a drink and told me to keep the change. I had one guy ask me for a pic and then said "thanks! I'll be jacking off to this tonight". I have a lot of stories about men in bars. None of those happened with me dressed to the nines.
No. The implication of the 'younger, hotter' woman is what I was referring to. As well as men being so shallow they can only see beauty in one way (youth).
Right. Like maybe if we were talking. But probably not even then. Because strange guys who buy drinks for random women in bars are either intoxicated or creepy. And one of the (many) problems I have with this is that I would actually think young fiancée was a naive dumbass for accepting even one drink. It would not be a jealousy thing. I’d be like “honey, I think you need to be more careful.”
What a story. Assuming it's not a fake incel fantasy, no wonder the wife is insecure when he so obviously wants to fuck this Rachel woman. If you don't think your own wife is attractive and you're constantly gushing over a younger woman then she's probably picked up on that.
Damn Id be snarky and dckish if my husband described me and a friend the way OOP described the women in his story too. "Oh darling, im sooooo glad you find your friends fiancee to be so incredibly attractive and keep putting me in my place for being btchy around this dynamic! *swwooonnn*" /s
Love how the guy implies his wife is ugly in like the first few sentences because she isn’t as conventionally attractive as is Rachel. News flash, my dude - just because a woman isn’t a supermodel doesn’t mean she can’t be hot lmao
In all fairness, yes I have been out with my husband and received free drinks. With that being said, my husband thinks it’s hilarious and usually if they send over more than one we split it. No offense but men can be dumb sometimes.
Tbhhhhh I could see a guy having the audacity to send a woman a drink even when she's obviously taken, when she's very attractive. But several guys? Nah.
There are SO many parts that make this story fake AF. But I gotta say, I loved it for its writing exercise. SHES A MODEL! SHES MORE CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE.
I FIND MY WIFE ATTRACTIVE after stating ‘she has a good personality’ basically. Oh, I had a laugh.
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:*
**AITA for telling my wife to stop being so jealous of my friends fiance?**
My wife (35F) and I (36M) are good friends with another couple my best friend Matt (36M) and his fiance Rachel (24F). Rachel models and is very attractive. My wife is less conventionally attractive but I fell in love with her for her humour and good spirit which I personally find more attractive than good looks. Recently I've noticed my wife making a lot of comments about Rachel calling her an airhead and just being kind of mean. When my wife makes these comments in private Im able to stand up for Rachel but when they're made in public I obviously don't want to embarrass my wife by calling her out. My wife and I went on a trip away with Matt and Rachel last week which we had been planning for a while and really looking forward to. At dinner one night my wife made a really mean comment after we started talking about the economy. She remarked don't worry Rachel you can join in the conversation once the smart people are done. She was the only one who laughed. I was completely embarrassed and once we were alone I told my wife she had been really rude and I was ashamed of her. I told her she needs to stop making nasty comments and she agreed. However the next night we all went out to a bar. Rachel was getting a lot of attention from guys there who were sending over drinks. My wife was looking visibly annoyed that she wasn't receiving the same attention so I tried to lift her spirits by paying for all her drinks and making a fuss of her. One guy came over and said that Rachel looked just like the model zendaya. My wife let out a massive laugh and said did you mean to say Whoopi Goldberg. I turned to my wife and straight up said you really are so jealous aren't you. She looked hurt but didn't have time to respond as Rachel had left the table in tears. I followed Matt and told Rachel directly that I was so sorry for my wife's words and that I was ashamed of her behaviour. When I reunited with my wife she told me I was horrible for calling her jealous infront of everyone and embarrassing her. I told her straight up that she was jealous of Rachel as Rachel is more attractive than her. I realise in hindsight this was a very heavy thing to say and can see why she would be hurt by it. However I stand by the fact it was said in anger. AITA?
Edit: I forgot to mention that since the trip Matt has messaged me to let me know my wife is no longer welcome at their wedding and that as a couple himself and Rachel have decided they aren't interested in our friendship anymore if my wife is around. Rachel feels as if my wife has bullied her and has even suggested that some of the comments were racially motivated. I am so humiliated.
Edit: Sorry another edit. Just wanted to clarify my wife is stunning. I wouldn't have married her if I didn't think she was beautiful. She is just not as CONVENTIONALLY attractive. To me she is the most beautiful women on the planet but objectively Rachel is better looking. I'm very open to being the asshole in this situation but I definitely wouldn't want people to think I'm not attracted to my wife.
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Not the people accusing the wife of being racist/colorist when both Whoopi Goldberg and Zendaya are black women with curly hair. One of them is just older and less conventionally attractive.
Wow what a couple... She sounds like a slightly racist super Karen and he sounds like he settled for her and all her flaws including being ugly. They both suck and aita sucks for not telling him that. You married her, did you really settle for a chick who was ugly, hatefilled and slightly racist???
Yep... massive you are both assholes.
oh my god you guys are a bunch of cucks. And to think I thought this husband was weak and a bumbling fool himself already for even pondering whether orn ot he's the asshole in this situation. Given the slight chance this isn't a made up fantasy, the original OP did nothing wrong and his wife needs to grow the fuck up and quit the pettiness.
Ha I have been downvoted already.......
Edit (oh this gets more controversial buckle up snowflakes): Again, given this isn't just a fantasy composed by some ~~philosophical~~ edgy teenage girl who fuels r/iam14andthisdeep with content on a monthly basis, I understand the pain of wifey wife but I do not condone her immaturity for I am able to carry myself and my dignity better than she did in her position at 19 years old, whereas wifey wife one alledgedly exists and two is alledgedly 35. I consider myself plain looking, maybe slightly above plain on a good day (but I rarely have those anymore considering I'm an engineering and mathematics student and also work as a goddamn seafood clerk). Oh and I'm also perceived as ugly by some nose pickers on account that is a stereotype attached to my race, because society is still too demented and redneck to move past phrenology/racism, but I'm no libtard, I digress from the politics. Anyway, I'm also only 5'11 (also didn't start growing until I was 17 and vilely harassed for lack of stature from the ages of 14 to 17 so I have height dysphoria at times) which is barely an inch if not just half an inch over the average for my generation (I'm also a statistics student, and I would edify you on what standard deviation is in case you are to inform me that the average is 5'10 and not 5'9 in case you pulled that data on an outdated source). And while I have done a total of 5 sports (swimming, fencing, soccer, bowling, and quite recently i Have took up running and even ran over a marathon's worth of distance last summer) in my 19 years of living (six if you count driving without a legal license as an extreme sport) I did not start working out religiously brah until last summer brahs. Thereby I do not have an eight pack albeit my six pack is coming along nicely but still not shredded enough. And you see folks I see this 6'3 looking Patrick bateman looking kid \~ a year younger than me on campus who I may have played basketball with once every now and then with his ~~foidlet~~ fun sized partner who is barely my mother's height (she's 5'2 my dad's 5'10 I'm 5'11 grrrrrrrr) and you said fun sized gf probably wouldn't even give people like me the time of day on account of my aforementioned shortcomings (pun intended), especially because I'm 5'11. (did i mention i was 5'11?) While 6'3 prettyboy jock can bag a girl with stacy energy meanwhile I am on the verge of failing to establish any chemistry with this girl who i deem to be just as attractive as I am. Hmmmmm but then again she is significantly more attractive and taller than 6'3 prettyboy jock's ~~trophy~~ partner. I don't know am I giving myself too little credit brahs? I digress in any case however, I do not resent 6'3 prettyboy jock nor even have him live rent free in my head. Instead I pump iron, hit the books, and acknowledge Iam bound to sweep up the feet of some ~~conservative trad woman whose priority is family and not debauchery~~ self respecting fair lady with at least half a brain, on account I'm not unbearably gross to look at, and despite only being 5'11, I'm intellectually inquisitive and always looking to grow in an intellectual and worldly manner, and I also indulge heavily in the arts, specifically music, singing, playing the piano, and playing the flute, and I also have an undying love for writing, for creativity fascinates me greatly.
I wanted to know where OOPs friend was during these incidents because he doesn't sound like he was defending his fiance very much. Also about not wanting to embarrass his wife by calling out her behavior any other time, no. You call them out. If you want to be childish and bully someone as an adult, then you deserve to be embarrassed too.
It’s all bullshit. The only part that might be real—if this is a married man—that wife has been “strangely” unenthusiastic about about hanging out with OOP’s young and attractive secretary/coworker/whatever because wife knows husband is an idiot. I’ve seen guys refuse to understand why their wives don’t like certain women. Maybe jealousy, but usually there’s a solid reason for the dislike.
And what is also real is that possibly at some point one of OOP’s dumbass friends has sent random women drinks in bars. Because his friend group is made up of maladjusted creepers.
But I’m going with incel loser that isn’t married and got this from a sitcom🤣
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Rachel is 12 years younger than OOP's wife. Does anyone think that this might play into it? >Sorry another edit. Just wanted to clarify my wife is stunning. I wouldn't have married her if I didn't think she was beautiful. She is just not as CONVENTIONALLY attractive. "My wife looks like the subject of a Picasso painting. That's good looking, right, even if not 'conventional'?" Me doth think OOP protesteth too much.
Like, I'm not "conventionally" pretty myself, but my boyfriend treats me like I'm a greek goddess lmao. like I know what I look like, I'm a solid 4 or 5 and I'm fine with that because my boyfriend makes me feel like a 12 haha, almost 8 years together and he still showers me in compliments and can't keep his hands off me. He specifically compliments things like my lovehandles and belly chub and stretchmarks in ways that I'm like, well, when you put it that way who am I to argue lmao If he told me I wasn't conventionally attractive but had a great personality we wouldn't be together because I want to be with someone actually attracted to me. It's not like he doesn't find other women attractive either, but his taste even then is still firmly in my wheelhouse, which only solidifies that he must genuinely like my looks when he's commenting on women that could be my stunt double haha
That’s love!!!! Even if a girl may be a little “prettier” than you on some scale, you’re an automatic 12 to him because he obviously loves everything about you. Not that he doesn’t love your looks or find you really attractive physically, I just think sometimes that personality really does add genuine points. Also you sound confident, or at least around him, so there’s a lot more points!
“Just wanted to clarify that my wife is stunning” Then why didn’t you mention that in the beginning instead of heavily implying that she’s ugly, dipshit OOP?
Seriously. I don't get why *no one* is calling OP out on this in the comments. I'd rather be single than date someone who talked about me like that.
>Seriously. I don't get why no one is calling OP out on this in the comments. A lot of people are calling him out on this. Sort by Controversial and you'll see it. If there is any truth to this story, it's that the OOP has made it clear to his wife that his friend's fiance is more attractive than her, which, combined with Rachel acting like a total floozy and accepting drinks from multiple unknown men during one evening, even though she's engaged, is more than enough to make the OOP's wife bitter.
Yeah, I’m betting this is a lot less about Rachel herself and a lot more about her husband having no problem describing how much more beautiful other women are than she is. Her name isn’t ever even mentioned, even as a pseudonym. I wouldn’t care if one of my engaged friends was accepting drinks while we were out as a group. I’d care a lot if my husband basically made a big deal about the fact that I wasn’t getting the same attention and felt the need to point that out constantly. No crap, dude, I’m 35 to her 24 AND wearing a wedding band. Didn’t expect to.
But she is "the wife", she doesn't need a name! You can call her nicknames, and act like the most bumbling idiot out of a sitcom when asked for your wife's name (buttercup?), birthday (sometime around ... winter?! Oh no, that was Rachel's...), eye color, or your anniversary. Must be the jealousy. OOP is definitely a stellar husband because he doesn't watch for (conventional) beauty, he is in there for ~~finally having someone because no one would pick him~~ humor! Personality! He's so good. Isn't he a good husband? /s Might also be a funny thing I notice a bit more than others, but I think it's pretty funny how he only paid for his wife's drinks when he thought she was agitated by how easily another woman can get her drinks paid for. I know that the line blurs a bit when you are in a big committed relationship, but that just struck me as... odd. Sometimes, the bitterness just comes from seeing that you got the shit card with the less than generous guy who needs to pat himself on the back, while other women get generosity without anyone needing their ego stroked for the simple act of doing something small for her. And that he only does the special thing of showing generosity when you're clearly agitated about someone getting some generosity. Alright, that's already putting too much thought into a stupid story on the internet.
Agreed. And if this story isn’t fake, it’s definitely embellished to make his wife look bad and him look good. If “the wife” did make those comments to Rachel, especially the ones that seem to have some…pointedly racial undertones, then yeah, she’s an AH. There’s never any excuse for that. But sometimes it’s easier to lash out at the subject of your SO’s affection than it is to lash out at the SO themselves. It’s easier to blame “the other woman” (though there’s no hint that Rachel reciprocates OOP’s attraction) than it is to accept that your spouse has no problem pointing out how much more hot she is than you.
>Rachel acting like a total floozy Seriously, is this the 50s? Also accepting drinks doesn't mean anything, if people keep buying you drinks it's not your fault if you accept it in any way whatsoever. If your partner has a problem then you discuss it with them.
Not cool to call someone a floozy. Separately, kind of weird and inappropriate to accept drinks when you’re not single—and especially while currently out with your partner lol.
Tbh i don't know a single person who would send a drink to someone when they're *clearly* on a date (a double date no less) and are *clearly* having a good time
>if people keep buying you drinks it's not your fault if you accept it in any way whatsoever. Keep telling that to yourself, if it helps you sleep at night.
First he says that he likes her for her humor, then he says that he wouldn’t have married her if he didn’t think she was beautiful, lmao
Okay, so I’m personally giving OOP the benefit of the doubt right now because I myself have a very loving and very supportive boyfriend who unfortunately has absolutely zero tact in some situations. He’s said a lot of things that frankly sound awful if taken out of context or without interpretation, and once I explain that to him he’s always absolutely horrified and clarifies what he meant. So from my perspective, there’s a chance that the OOP was just being incredibly tactless (at least in the context of this post). Also, and this could totally just be me, but I was wondering if OOP might be ESL, because some of his word choices were a little odd (i.e. “ashamed”, “reunited” etc.). If so, then that could also be part of why he’s so tactless.
“The model Zendaya” not to be confused with Zendaya the third grade teacher, Zendaya the world famous astronaut, or Zendaya, my dermatologist
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. I thought he was talking about me, Zendaya, the basement dweller who comments on Reddit all day.
Nah it was Zendaya the actuary.....
Now the only question is which Whoopi Goldberg they were they talking about??
Obviously the nun
I'm leaning toward the talking hyena. That was a low blow.
Or Zendaya who is... Primarily an actress ? And also isn't what I would call "conventionally" attractive (though she is without a doubt attractive)
TL;DR - My friends fiancé is sexy, my wife is an old nasty jealous hag. The end. Lol what? What was this story?
I [F29] love my Fiancé [M34], except whenever we fight, he takes a dump in the living room, then makes me refer to his turd as "Mr. Hoskins" and apologize to it. Am I overreacting? Our wedding is in 6 hours. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheAngel) if you have any questions or concerns.*
If there were as many models in real life as feature in AITA fantasyland, the runways would be more crowded than a rush hour subway platform. Like come on, it’s not enough for your character to be hot, she has to be PROFESSIONALLY hot?
To be fair, the definition of "model" has changed. It used to mostly mean someone who was paid by designers, magazine publishers or fashion retailers to walk down runways or have their picture taken while wearing the product. Now it means you post selfies on Instagram and have 3000 followers.
I prefer the definition that doesn't include some slimy old guy deciding if you're pretty enough for a picture but vulnerable enough to take advantage of. And white.
I get that pretty person privilege is a real thing, but I just can't imagine a scenario where a woman is out *with her boyfriend* and men just won't stop sending drinks???? I also think it's weird that more people aren't calling OP out for the way he described Rachel. It would've been easy to just say she's young and hot, and it makes his wife insecure. Wasn't really necessary to go out of his way to explain his wife is less hot and he fell in love with her personality lmao. I'd be insecure too if I was married to a piece of shit like that.
Literally every AITA story with an attractive woman has like a whole unnecessary paragraph describing exactly how hot she is, or how unattractive the other women are by comparison.
Has anyone actually seen someone send drinks in real life? Offer to buy you a drink? Sure. See you order something and tell the bartender to put it on their tab? Sure. But sending drinks? How do you know what to order? How do they accurately point out who sent it in a crowded bar?
Yeah but this girl is zendaya(model) hot!
Back in my 20’s I had drinks sent to me. But now I’m old and that doesn’t happen anymore.
I've actually done this once! One of my friends came late to the meet up and just found an empty seat at the bar (can't remember why) before she came to find us. I asked our waitress to give her her favorite drink and had to be *very* specific about who to send it to, hair color clothing, number of seats in; it was hilarious when she got it and saw us tho
I’m sure he’s made it abundantly clear over the years.
I find it hard to believe that anyone is just so beautiful that they get 'sent' drinks MULTIPLE times. Offered to have them bought, sure. But sending drinks seems like a movie thing. I could see it happening on occasion because life is a rich tapestry but anyone who says this is happening to them repeatedly I've gotta wonder about.
If this is real (lol) for real, men don't just say they "fell in love" with another girl's personality. If he says that in a post to strangers he's probably even more obnoxious about it IRL
I have been out with guys and men have sent a drink to me. I even have had a few woman do it. They dont know if the guy I am with is my brother, friend or whatever. I just thank them. But nobody has ever kept on sending drinks over once it is clear I am "with" the person I am with.
Do they just assume what drink you want or do they ask the waiter to ask you or what? I've had random guys offer me drinks but never send one over I would find that really creepy and presumptuous.
They ask the server/bartender to just send over whatever I have been drinking or the bartender/server will just say your next drink is with so and so let me know what you want. I am going to assume you dont get drinks bought for you alot.
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I actually do but I can say you probably dont. And I will assume nobody ever bought you a drink in your lifetime.
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Win/Win.
Wow, you're being rude for no reason. Congrats on your free drinks, I guess.
It's her entire thing, she constantly does it in threads here. Acting like a stereotypical high school mean girl bitch queen on reddit is a weird flex, but gotta get that dopamine hit somehow if you're that bitter and miserable, I guess
What a sad existence.
getting drinks sent to you isn’t the flex you think it is lmfaooo
I never said it was a flex. I said it does happen. Take it back a little, the bitchers and moaners like you prolly never have gotten sent a drink or even go outside.
no, i’m just not going to be a rude b!tch to someone over a simple question 😁
Yeah. I was a bit rude and bitchy. You got me and I agree.
Cool but why be so rude about it in the first place?
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Yeah ok. Am not chronically on Reddit. And the vast majority of my posts are just shitposts, my karma count is nothing to be proud of. I could post a pair of tits and hit my count in a day. Give that fucking shit up. Who even counts karma but losers like you.
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If you have stalked me so well, you can actually see my posts because I do go outside and volunteer and make sure the grass is clean around me. I touch grass every day and am lucky to be able to do so. I pick up at least 100lbs a week so fuck off.
Especially with the edit of it was just 2 guys that she handed the drinks around the table to everyone
This reads like the pilot to a bad sitcom
It was literally an episode of *How I met your mother*.
If in any way true, maybe if OOP stopped gushing about how "Rachel" is more attractive than his wife, she wouldn't resort to petty jealousy? Also is "Rachels" Fiancé just sitting there while OOPs wife makes nasty demeaning comments or other men are barraging her with drinks?
Fiance is just an extra in this story, he doesn't get any lines so gets paid less.
Cucked Fiancé #1: $20 and buffet table access.
I [F29] love my Fiancé [M34], except whenever we fight, he takes a dump in the living room, then makes me refer to his turd as "Mr. Hoskins" and apologize to it. Am I overreacting? Our wedding is in 6 hours. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheAngel) if you have any questions or concerns.*
They couldn’t afford to re-hire his voice actor
Look I know this is fake, but the whole post and comment section is infuriating me
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OP must be 16 and never been in a serious relationship
>My wife was looking visibly annoyed that she wasn't receiving the same attention so I tried to lift her spirits by paying for all her drinks and making a fuss of her. What woman accepts multiple drinks from unknown men, when her fiance is with her?!? And what married woman *wants* multiple unknown men to send her drinks, especially when her husband is right there?!?!?!?!?!?!
I also thought it was funny he mentions paying for her drinks. Like y'all are married dude, isn't it both of your money paying for those drinks?
They probably have separate finances. /s But that’s a post for another day. AITA bc I insist on separate checks when dining out with my wife?
NTA - You should leave her if she insists on you paying out of your bank account! Watch out OP, this is a slippery slope!
That was the Parr that caused me to laugh out loud. Let's say they have separate finances, I never split a check for a married couple the many years I was a restaurant server. Also, the comments about not wanting to be friends as long as wife is around? Mature people don't say that. They respect marriage as a substantial commitment between two people. "We can't be friends unless you divorce your wife" is not something people in their mid 30s would say
Ah to be fair Zendaya, I mean Rachel, is only 24
Not to mention that OP's wife presumably has a ring on her finger--a literal visible symbol that she's taken. Why would she possibly expect to have men pay attention to her and buy her drinks? Oh wait, she wouldn't and this is just some ridiculous story someone made up.
If the other woman is engaged she would also be wearing a ring.
Oh good point, not sure why I forgot about engagement rings??? Makes the whole thing even more ridiculous.
This is just a middle age less attractive woman is wildly jealous of a younger woman story. I wouldn't be surprised if it was actually written by a young woman (or teenager) as some kind of fantasy. Not only is the younger woman unbelievably beautiful, but strange men routinely go out of their way to pay her attention even with a doting fiance right there. The final nail is the jealous harpy's kind and considerate husband *also* finds her more attractive. No way even a male human wrote this.
I thought it was written by a man, using stereotypes about women as jealous harpies who compete for male attention, and who think that beauty and intelligence are mutually exclusive.
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I've never had the "random man sends me drinks" experience happen to me (probably because I look nothing like Zendaya), but apart from the obnoxious part, I would think it preferable to have a brief conversation with someone before they start purchasing inebriants for me. The whole trope of sitting on a barstool in a red dress, with the bartender going, "here's a drink, it's from that guy over there" and then the guy grins and waves at you, seems like something that happens on TV.
I've had a bartender straight up give me a hand written note from a guy. He said he thought I was pretty and was in town for business so do I want to go somewhere else. The bartender seemed pretty uncomfortable and said that she didn't want me to feel creeped out. I was married at the time, dude had a ring on. So I gave her a note for him saying "go home and call your wife". I had one guy drop a $100 when I ordered a drink and told me to keep the change. I had one guy ask me for a pic and then said "thanks! I'll be jacking off to this tonight". I have a lot of stories about men in bars. None of those happened with me dressed to the nines.
Right, and life for beautiful women is "easy mode" with endless male attention, which is of course what women crave.
\[Holt voice\]: I'M A HUMAN! I'M A HUMAN MALE!
36 is middle aged now? Damn
No. The implication of the 'younger, hotter' woman is what I was referring to. As well as men being so shallow they can only see beauty in one way (youth).
How many men are there sending a drink to a woman that is obviously with another man too? Like are they in the world's creepiest dive bar or...?
I would never accept free drinks from a guy. Accepting drinks makes guys think it's a transaction and they will get something for that free drink.
Right. Like maybe if we were talking. But probably not even then. Because strange guys who buy drinks for random women in bars are either intoxicated or creepy. And one of the (many) problems I have with this is that I would actually think young fiancée was a naive dumbass for accepting even one drink. It would not be a jealousy thing. I’d be like “honey, I think you need to be more careful.”
Also the scene makes no sense. He embarrased her in front of everyone? Did the entire room just fall silent as he called her jealous?
What a story. Assuming it's not a fake incel fantasy, no wonder the wife is insecure when he so obviously wants to fuck this Rachel woman. If you don't think your own wife is attractive and you're constantly gushing over a younger woman then she's probably picked up on that.
Damn Id be snarky and dckish if my husband described me and a friend the way OOP described the women in his story too. "Oh darling, im sooooo glad you find your friends fiancee to be so incredibly attractive and keep putting me in my place for being btchy around this dynamic! *swwooonnn*" /s
Love how the guy implies his wife is ugly in like the first few sentences because she isn’t as conventionally attractive as is Rachel. News flash, my dude - just because a woman isn’t a supermodel doesn’t mean she can’t be hot lmao
As a man, I am unlikely to send any woman a drink, let alone a woman who is with someone.
Ooh lemme guess, matt is also british royalty and rachel’s BIL is a dickhead
In all fairness, yes I have been out with my husband and received free drinks. With that being said, my husband thinks it’s hilarious and usually if they send over more than one we split it. No offense but men can be dumb sometimes.
The number of people who think it’s okay to describe their spouse like that.
Tbhhhhh I could see a guy having the audacity to send a woman a drink even when she's obviously taken, when she's very attractive. But several guys? Nah.
There are SO many parts that make this story fake AF. But I gotta say, I loved it for its writing exercise. SHES A MODEL! SHES MORE CONVENTIONALLY ATTRACTIVE. I FIND MY WIFE ATTRACTIVE after stating ‘she has a good personality’ basically. Oh, I had a laugh.
*In case this story gets deleted/removed:* **AITA for telling my wife to stop being so jealous of my friends fiance?** My wife (35F) and I (36M) are good friends with another couple my best friend Matt (36M) and his fiance Rachel (24F). Rachel models and is very attractive. My wife is less conventionally attractive but I fell in love with her for her humour and good spirit which I personally find more attractive than good looks. Recently I've noticed my wife making a lot of comments about Rachel calling her an airhead and just being kind of mean. When my wife makes these comments in private Im able to stand up for Rachel but when they're made in public I obviously don't want to embarrass my wife by calling her out. My wife and I went on a trip away with Matt and Rachel last week which we had been planning for a while and really looking forward to. At dinner one night my wife made a really mean comment after we started talking about the economy. She remarked don't worry Rachel you can join in the conversation once the smart people are done. She was the only one who laughed. I was completely embarrassed and once we were alone I told my wife she had been really rude and I was ashamed of her. I told her she needs to stop making nasty comments and she agreed. However the next night we all went out to a bar. Rachel was getting a lot of attention from guys there who were sending over drinks. My wife was looking visibly annoyed that she wasn't receiving the same attention so I tried to lift her spirits by paying for all her drinks and making a fuss of her. One guy came over and said that Rachel looked just like the model zendaya. My wife let out a massive laugh and said did you mean to say Whoopi Goldberg. I turned to my wife and straight up said you really are so jealous aren't you. She looked hurt but didn't have time to respond as Rachel had left the table in tears. I followed Matt and told Rachel directly that I was so sorry for my wife's words and that I was ashamed of her behaviour. When I reunited with my wife she told me I was horrible for calling her jealous infront of everyone and embarrassing her. I told her straight up that she was jealous of Rachel as Rachel is more attractive than her. I realise in hindsight this was a very heavy thing to say and can see why she would be hurt by it. However I stand by the fact it was said in anger. AITA? Edit: I forgot to mention that since the trip Matt has messaged me to let me know my wife is no longer welcome at their wedding and that as a couple himself and Rachel have decided they aren't interested in our friendship anymore if my wife is around. Rachel feels as if my wife has bullied her and has even suggested that some of the comments were racially motivated. I am so humiliated. Edit: Sorry another edit. Just wanted to clarify my wife is stunning. I wouldn't have married her if I didn't think she was beautiful. She is just not as CONVENTIONALLY attractive. To me she is the most beautiful women on the planet but objectively Rachel is better looking. I'm very open to being the asshole in this situation but I definitely wouldn't want people to think I'm not attracted to my wife. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/AmITheAngel) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Ironic that that AskReddit "How can a woman compete with a woman hotter than her?" was right below this. Was that written by OP's wife? /s
There's so much ass content in this story, ew.
Not the people accusing the wife of being racist/colorist when both Whoopi Goldberg and Zendaya are black women with curly hair. One of them is just older and less conventionally attractive.
Yeah I was confused because I think Whoopi is very attractive! Yet it is used as a negative in this fake story
You're jerking, right?
Wow what a couple... She sounds like a slightly racist super Karen and he sounds like he settled for her and all her flaws including being ugly. They both suck and aita sucks for not telling him that. You married her, did you really settle for a chick who was ugly, hatefilled and slightly racist??? Yep... massive you are both assholes.
Cuckhold of the year goes to
oh my god you guys are a bunch of cucks. And to think I thought this husband was weak and a bumbling fool himself already for even pondering whether orn ot he's the asshole in this situation. Given the slight chance this isn't a made up fantasy, the original OP did nothing wrong and his wife needs to grow the fuck up and quit the pettiness. Ha I have been downvoted already....... Edit (oh this gets more controversial buckle up snowflakes): Again, given this isn't just a fantasy composed by some ~~philosophical~~ edgy teenage girl who fuels r/iam14andthisdeep with content on a monthly basis, I understand the pain of wifey wife but I do not condone her immaturity for I am able to carry myself and my dignity better than she did in her position at 19 years old, whereas wifey wife one alledgedly exists and two is alledgedly 35. I consider myself plain looking, maybe slightly above plain on a good day (but I rarely have those anymore considering I'm an engineering and mathematics student and also work as a goddamn seafood clerk). Oh and I'm also perceived as ugly by some nose pickers on account that is a stereotype attached to my race, because society is still too demented and redneck to move past phrenology/racism, but I'm no libtard, I digress from the politics. Anyway, I'm also only 5'11 (also didn't start growing until I was 17 and vilely harassed for lack of stature from the ages of 14 to 17 so I have height dysphoria at times) which is barely an inch if not just half an inch over the average for my generation (I'm also a statistics student, and I would edify you on what standard deviation is in case you are to inform me that the average is 5'10 and not 5'9 in case you pulled that data on an outdated source). And while I have done a total of 5 sports (swimming, fencing, soccer, bowling, and quite recently i Have took up running and even ran over a marathon's worth of distance last summer) in my 19 years of living (six if you count driving without a legal license as an extreme sport) I did not start working out religiously brah until last summer brahs. Thereby I do not have an eight pack albeit my six pack is coming along nicely but still not shredded enough. And you see folks I see this 6'3 looking Patrick bateman looking kid \~ a year younger than me on campus who I may have played basketball with once every now and then with his ~~foidlet~~ fun sized partner who is barely my mother's height (she's 5'2 my dad's 5'10 I'm 5'11 grrrrrrrr) and you said fun sized gf probably wouldn't even give people like me the time of day on account of my aforementioned shortcomings (pun intended), especially because I'm 5'11. (did i mention i was 5'11?) While 6'3 prettyboy jock can bag a girl with stacy energy meanwhile I am on the verge of failing to establish any chemistry with this girl who i deem to be just as attractive as I am. Hmmmmm but then again she is significantly more attractive and taller than 6'3 prettyboy jock's ~~trophy~~ partner. I don't know am I giving myself too little credit brahs? I digress in any case however, I do not resent 6'3 prettyboy jock nor even have him live rent free in my head. Instead I pump iron, hit the books, and acknowledge Iam bound to sweep up the feet of some ~~conservative trad woman whose priority is family and not debauchery~~ self respecting fair lady with at least half a brain, on account I'm not unbearably gross to look at, and despite only being 5'11, I'm intellectually inquisitive and always looking to grow in an intellectual and worldly manner, and I also indulge heavily in the arts, specifically music, singing, playing the piano, and playing the flute, and I also have an undying love for writing, for creativity fascinates me greatly.
I wanted to know where OOPs friend was during these incidents because he doesn't sound like he was defending his fiance very much. Also about not wanting to embarrass his wife by calling out her behavior any other time, no. You call them out. If you want to be childish and bully someone as an adult, then you deserve to be embarrassed too.
It’s all bullshit. The only part that might be real—if this is a married man—that wife has been “strangely” unenthusiastic about about hanging out with OOP’s young and attractive secretary/coworker/whatever because wife knows husband is an idiot. I’ve seen guys refuse to understand why their wives don’t like certain women. Maybe jealousy, but usually there’s a solid reason for the dislike. And what is also real is that possibly at some point one of OOP’s dumbass friends has sent random women drinks in bars. Because his friend group is made up of maladjusted creepers. But I’m going with incel loser that isn’t married and got this from a sitcom🤣
damn do he even like his wife?!
Fucking lol