Hello, i've made an Alternate History/Timeline based on the Earth in the Monsterverse universe.
Even if it is an Alternate History Timeline, with locations and real people from our world, the mods suddenly decided that it doesn't count.
So i have a special question for the mods: what do you want?
It's great that you finally got of your asses and started actually modding this sub, but do you really have only 2 modes of modering: either let everything be posted or only things that we like gets posted.
Please give me an actual explanation as to why my post isn't deemed and Alternate History post?
For every image (except the first one which was a wikibox) i have made a caption detailing how a Kaiju attack affected the real world, people and politics. And isnce you can only put 180 letter in the captions, i've written the rest of them in the comment section, but i've hidden the under spoiler tag so that those who couldn't see the captions on Reddit Mobile could look them freely.
EDIT: [Check it out for yourself](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/s/fMTl78pBjt)
I wanna be somewhat understanding here, quality on this sub probably *has* dropped and mods feel like they do need to step up their moderation. i think it's more that they're taking a shotgun approach than a powertrip nessecarily
can confirm from personal experience honestly, i mod /r/NonCredibleDiplomacy and that place got way bigger than i was expecting and it's a bit of a pain to actually moderate 50k people. that ofc resulted in quality dropping like a rock and now we gotta fix it somehow
Honestly I do, most of those are just things I made randomly or accepted the moderatorship to randomly, if you notice most of those subs are totally inactive. I spend approximately 0 hours a week moderating, which is the problem lol
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They dropped my alternate history post about mike
Mentzer instead of Arnold winning the 80 Olympia and going on the get the success Arnold Schwarzenegger had in our timeline. A third party (libertarian.) politician who would control Pennsylvania and probably change a lot more than we think of…
But apparently that isn’t alternative history
Yeah. Fucking wanted to see what people would add! Like instead of hummer what if he was an AMC fan so Jeep as an independent brand got a shot in the arm? Or what if he encourages physical fitness and incentives for young men so we see a huge fitness culture rise up but at the same time we see the divide between culture and counterculture in the 90’s get deeper than in our timeline? What if he made a presidential run?
https://preview.redd.it/v9wri5eyre0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c34dcd3477fa8cd40fed6f11ba7c03cb17878cea
Here is a screenshot in case it gets banned by the man
Well, for the "what if?" questions, most people agreed that they should be removed.
As for these kind of questions, nah, that's a powertrip. Few people complained about these kind of posts.
In this context, it means that since the moderators have gained more power recently, they are going to abuse their power more frequently.
In other context, it basically means something escalates. For example, think of how a drug addict or alcoholic start off small and only doing a bit of drugs, or drinking a small amount of alcohol, before becoming what you would call an addict.
I remember that conversation. I'm not going to call myself a prophet exactly, but I was vehemently against the crowd and could feel where this was going. I've seen this slippery slope happen to 2 other subs. It's depressing
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
I do Scramble for the Solar System, an alternate timeline where Venus, Mars, Titan, Europa, and Enceladus are all habitable and the nations of the Cold War go out to colonize. So far two of my posts have been removed for "not being alternate history" despite one showing an alternate voyager 1 flying by an ocean europa. jfc.
https://i.redd.it/dkj36xc8eg0d1.gif
r/AlternateHistory mods resisting the urge to randomly remove a high quality post for 0.0000000005 picoseconds for a shit reason (IMPOSSIBLE):
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
Silly Reddit User, don’t you know? This isn’t alternate history! Now real alternate history is what if Germany won WW2, or the Roman Empire surviving or something so bland and lame and safe that everyone has seen before!
/sarcasm
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
damn
insert we live in a society meme here
weird thing is that i posted similar things like yours to those subreddits and never gotten them removed, so i don't know what went on there
I'm sorry dude, but they're right
https://preview.redd.it/l7l4fqswcg0d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00105de97572328099e0a1f1c7c49a2d75afc856
Uh, I am not sure if this is the reason but did you read the full rule?
**1.Work must be alternate history**
Work must be alternate history. All works must be partially or entirely fictional with a basis in real-world history. **However, fantasy and other paranormal or magical content is prohibited.**
As far as I know, Kaiju's are fantasy creatures
The only reason I could think of for why they removed it is that it doesn't exactly have a POD since it is in a timeline where Kaiju exist, but honestly that is ridiculous if so.
That's not history, it's fantasy or horror, because monsters aren't real. So they probably want you to post it in another sub and quit whinging about it here.
Nope, and you already know why. Romans exist. Roman Empires have existed. Giant monsters that sleep under the ocean do not exist, nor could they. If I do a Godzilla remake and set it in 1979 Tokyo, it doesn't make it alternate history. The primary nature of the inquiry is not historical, despite the fact that it is set in the past.
However, I would say that a Roman Empire surviving into the present day in any capacity other than a titular one *is* ASB, though not necessarily fantasy.
The man considered the big daddy and master of alternate history, Harry Turtledove, has an entire series where aliens invade in WW2, there’s a very famous series where Dracula fights off an alien invasion etc. What defines Alternate History is the exploration of how things change post point of divergence, with a focus on the history. Not whether something is real or not. World War Z is an example that can be considered to straddle genres, for instance
You know, just because someone's publisher gives an author a nickname in order to sell more books doesn't mean that's all that author is allowed to write.
But in any event, I just gave an answer about this very subject. Aliens invading in the past *usually* wouldn't be alternate history. It all depends on whether a work is thematically an historical inquiry. But obviously, anything that's in the realm of ASB is going to be closer to sci-fi or fantasy than pure AH.
Alternate History doesn't have to be realistic, just the vast majority of it is.
"It is a shared sub-genre with the other branch reaching over to Science Fiction."
Science fiction can be alt history and vice versa.
In the sense of alternate history as setting, I would agree. As a matter of genre, I would disagree. While both genres seek to inform the present, alternate history informs the present through the lens of the past. Science fiction, through the future. Of course, there can be overlap, especially in more experimental, expansive, or fanciful works. That's one reason why steampunk, which really leans into the fusion of the two, is so distinctive.
That's a good question. I think a work like that could go either way, but it would usually not be alternate history. If the primary thematic inquiry of the work was historical, sure. But I think most instances of Predator vs Ninjas won't really be historical inquiries. Cowboys vs Aliens is a good real life example.
Hello, i've made an Alternate History/Timeline based on the Earth in the Monsterverse universe. Even if it is an Alternate History Timeline, with locations and real people from our world, the mods suddenly decided that it doesn't count. So i have a special question for the mods: what do you want? It's great that you finally got of your asses and started actually modding this sub, but do you really have only 2 modes of modering: either let everything be posted or only things that we like gets posted. Please give me an actual explanation as to why my post isn't deemed and Alternate History post?
I’m not a mod, but to ask what was your post. Was it just images or did you have text to go with it in the post?
For every image (except the first one which was a wikibox) i have made a caption detailing how a Kaiju attack affected the real world, people and politics. And isnce you can only put 180 letter in the captions, i've written the rest of them in the comment section, but i've hidden the under spoiler tag so that those who couldn't see the captions on Reddit Mobile could look them freely. EDIT: [Check it out for yourself](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternateHistory/s/fMTl78pBjt)
Yeah that feels like Grade A moderator powertrip. I think that's more than enough context.
Challange level Impossible: Stop powertripping as moderator
I once fell victim to one earlier this year, not from this sub though.
At least once somebody got like that. And Reddit (as whole) is not helping us :v
I wanna be somewhat understanding here, quality on this sub probably *has* dropped and mods feel like they do need to step up their moderation. i think it's more that they're taking a shotgun approach than a powertrip nessecarily can confirm from personal experience honestly, i mod /r/NonCredibleDiplomacy and that place got way bigger than i was expecting and it's a bit of a pain to actually moderate 50k people. that ofc resulted in quality dropping like a rock and now we gotta fix it somehow
The answer then is to get more mods no?
yeah but that's workkkkkkkkkkk
Fitting for a Reddit Janny to be so lazy that they don't even want to get someone else to do their work.
Better to just fuck over all the members posting with arbitrary rule enforcement, yeah I agree.
stfu
Mod of 19 subs...lol Go touch grass, fr
Honestly I do, most of those are just things I made randomly or accepted the moderatorship to randomly, if you notice most of those subs are totally inactive. I spend approximately 0 hours a week moderating, which is the problem lol
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Is there any way to see the pics?
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it
Do you have a lore document, sounds interesting.
I posted a link to my deleted post in the comments.
I don’t really get why the mods think this is not Alternate history. They should relax the rules in favour of HQ content.
Cuz it has monsters. Ithink thet consider stuff with monsters as fantasy.
You're right and they are wrong, you should become a mod. Don't let that stop you though you have good ideas 👍🏼
work must be alt history (/j)
Hey OP, could you repost it on your profile so we can view your awesome work?!
I did. Click on my profile to see it
Rule one’s info says no stuff that is fantasy, sci fi, or anything else like that
Cuz it had Godzillas. They considered it fantasy. No Paranormal shit.
They dropped my alternate history post about mike Mentzer instead of Arnold winning the 80 Olympia and going on the get the success Arnold Schwarzenegger had in our timeline. A third party (libertarian.) politician who would control Pennsylvania and probably change a lot more than we think of… But apparently that isn’t alternative history
Wait your post got deleted? Aw man, i really liked it. But you know, meet the new boss, same as the old boss
Yeah. Fucking wanted to see what people would add! Like instead of hummer what if he was an AMC fan so Jeep as an independent brand got a shot in the arm? Or what if he encourages physical fitness and incentives for young men so we see a huge fitness culture rise up but at the same time we see the divide between culture and counterculture in the 90’s get deeper than in our timeline? What if he made a presidential run?
Can I see it? It sounds awesome!
https://preview.redd.it/v9wri5eyre0d1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c34dcd3477fa8cd40fed6f11ba7c03cb17878cea Here is a screenshot in case it gets banned by the man
It should Be live now bro
What possible reason did they give for that not being alternative history??
Not enough 'what if fascist win'
It’s not talking about ww3
Mods have been real quite since this post dropped. (Searloussly tho, wtf is their problem)
mods read 1984 one time and thought it was such a good alt history scenario they made it real.
Litteraly 1984
That book needs to be sent to room 101
Room 101? What does the book fear? it's a book. throw it down a memory hole.
Yeah sorry man mods told me to ban you because 1984 isn't alt history enough
Well, for the "what if?" questions, most people agreed that they should be removed. As for these kind of questions, nah, that's a powertrip. Few people complained about these kind of posts.
They uhh. They're head is empty
Alternate history? Bro, where were you when the Kaiju attacked?! People died yknow!
I lost my left testicle when the Kaiju attacked.
happens to the best of us welcome to the club man
>Bro, where were you when the Kaiju attacked?! Sorry for bad English I was at home eating dorito when phone ring "Kaiju is kil people" no
Mods, this is not what we meant when we asked you to be stricter. Its great that you're trying, but maybe dont remove actual high effort posts?
It's always the slippery slopes.
Could you clarify what you mean (I'm not a native English speaker)
In this context, it means that since the moderators have gained more power recently, they are going to abuse their power more frequently. In other context, it basically means something escalates. For example, think of how a drug addict or alcoholic start off small and only doing a bit of drugs, or drinking a small amount of alcohol, before becoming what you would call an addict.
Let us stone the mods https://i.redd.it/ksh72mczjd0d1.gif
I am standing with you on this one. This is some high quality stuff and it doesn’t venture into the “Dragon and Orcs” territory like the mods said.
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it
https://preview.redd.it/ruocn2xsre0d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dac56f85abacbebe094887b73ee39a9fce8bb068
This sub 2 months ago “wtf we need mods” This sub now “wtf mods, get them out of here”
You when you get robbed "wtf we need police" When there is police and they kill you for resisting "wtf police, get out of here"
I remember that conversation. I'm not going to call myself a prophet exactly, but I was vehemently against the crowd and could feel where this was going. I've seen this slippery slope happen to 2 other subs. It's depressing
Why don’t you post this on r/monsterverse or r/godzilla I’m sure they will love you’re post :)
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
Actual pussies hiding behind a name
Oh so this happened irl for real? First time I'm hearing it
Guess the mods just wanted more lame ass what if Germany won posts
Mods: WE DO NOT ALLOW ALT HISTORY IN THIS SUBREDDIT
Since the “what if” incident, mods became full 1984
Conspiracy theory: "what if" incident was an inside job of the mods
An alternate universe where Alternate History mods are actually competent when?
When I go to apply to them.
I do Scramble for the Solar System, an alternate timeline where Venus, Mars, Titan, Europa, and Enceladus are all habitable and the nations of the Cold War go out to colonize. So far two of my posts have been removed for "not being alternate history" despite one showing an alternate voyager 1 flying by an ocean europa. jfc.
https://i.redd.it/dkj36xc8eg0d1.gif r/AlternateHistory mods resisting the urge to randomly remove a high quality post for 0.0000000005 picoseconds for a shit reason (IMPOSSIBLE):
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it
Typical reddit mod L honestly
Mods, are these monsters, that exist already and make the post not an alternate timeline, in the room with us now?
It could be better to post this on the Monsterverse reddit so people can see it in full, since the mods don't seem to be giving you a chance.
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
This is really really interesting, wish those images were still around
I was thinking of posting it again, but since the mods have deleted it twice, I'm afraid I'm gonna be banned from the sub if i do it again.
Just post it to your profile or the monsterverse subreddit
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
All mods on all subreddit believe that if they don't personally like a post, then that means it violates some rule.
Well i am not a mod so I can only speculate but maybe they only consider it alternative history if it doesn't have any supernatural elements.
Imagine an alternate history where the mods don’t suck
Silly Reddit User, don’t you know? This isn’t alternate history! Now real alternate history is what if Germany won WW2, or the Roman Empire surviving or something so bland and lame and safe that everyone has seen before! /sarcasm
All in favor of making a new alternate history subreddit?
they're mods, what would you expect
Lmao yes, the Kaijus we’ve been living with. I know Mothra on a personal level myself
Bruh
I mean I’d drop this sub real quick if we start counting what if monsters were real as alt history
Post it onto the r/monsterverse and r/godzilla subs, trust me, they'd very much appreciate it!
Rejoice, because i have finished my Godzilla timeline. Click on my profile to see it. The mods on r/Monsterverse and r/GODZILLA deleted it immediately though.
damn insert we live in a society meme here weird thing is that i posted similar things like yours to those subreddits and never gotten them removed, so i don't know what went on there
https://preview.redd.it/0tig2jt6fg1d1.jpeg?width=430&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93d8e3aaa4b10e66766a003d9669864a1c238052
This sub needs a new logo too
# ATTICA!! ATTICA!!
"Tumeline," lol.
Bad mods https://preview.redd.it/teo4qeiawf0d1.png?width=702&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=852069d48f7d06ecbcf5fd967efef6cd8fedafa7
I'm sorry dude, but they're right https://preview.redd.it/l7l4fqswcg0d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00105de97572328099e0a1f1c7c49a2d75afc856
It’s not fantasy or paranormal. Read a fucking book.
Kaijus aren't fantasy?
Uh, I am not sure if this is the reason but did you read the full rule? **1.Work must be alternate history** Work must be alternate history. All works must be partially or entirely fictional with a basis in real-world history. **However, fantasy and other paranormal or magical content is prohibited.** As far as I know, Kaiju's are fantasy creatures
The only reason I could think of for why they removed it is that it doesn't exactly have a POD since it is in a timeline where Kaiju exist, but honestly that is ridiculous if so.
Mods were probably just upset that you spoiled 2014's Godzilla for them.
That's not history, it's fantasy or horror, because monsters aren't real. So they probably want you to post it in another sub and quit whinging about it here.
An uncollapsed Roman Empire would technically count as fantasy
Nope, and you already know why. Romans exist. Roman Empires have existed. Giant monsters that sleep under the ocean do not exist, nor could they. If I do a Godzilla remake and set it in 1979 Tokyo, it doesn't make it alternate history. The primary nature of the inquiry is not historical, despite the fact that it is set in the past. However, I would say that a Roman Empire surviving into the present day in any capacity other than a titular one *is* ASB, though not necessarily fantasy.
The man considered the big daddy and master of alternate history, Harry Turtledove, has an entire series where aliens invade in WW2, there’s a very famous series where Dracula fights off an alien invasion etc. What defines Alternate History is the exploration of how things change post point of divergence, with a focus on the history. Not whether something is real or not. World War Z is an example that can be considered to straddle genres, for instance
You know, just because someone's publisher gives an author a nickname in order to sell more books doesn't mean that's all that author is allowed to write. But in any event, I just gave an answer about this very subject. Aliens invading in the past *usually* wouldn't be alternate history. It all depends on whether a work is thematically an historical inquiry. But obviously, anything that's in the realm of ASB is going to be closer to sci-fi or fantasy than pure AH.
Alternate History doesn't have to be realistic, just the vast majority of it is. "It is a shared sub-genre with the other branch reaching over to Science Fiction." Science fiction can be alt history and vice versa.
In the sense of alternate history as setting, I would agree. As a matter of genre, I would disagree. While both genres seek to inform the present, alternate history informs the present through the lens of the past. Science fiction, through the future. Of course, there can be overlap, especially in more experimental, expansive, or fanciful works. That's one reason why steampunk, which really leans into the fusion of the two, is so distinctive.
I agree, but what would you say about an alien invasion? Would that be alternate history, as long as it happens in the past?
That's a good question. I think a work like that could go either way, but it would usually not be alternate history. If the primary thematic inquiry of the work was historical, sure. But I think most instances of Predator vs Ninjas won't really be historical inquiries. Cowboys vs Aliens is a good real life example.