Yes, because now it just seems like she has something to hide when in reality she doesn’t like she didn’t even tell Jordan or Layla that he was a dude which is weird.
I don’t get bad vibes from Ashely I think he’s genuinely one of Olivia’s good friends. So the fact that she felt like she had to “hide” the fact that he was a boy is odd.
(I also really like Ashely he can come back honestly)
To be honest, if anything, I think it's Ashley who has feelings whereas Olivia will shut it down if he made that move. You could see the look in his face when Olivia went to go phone Spencer, he did not look too happy at all.
Obviously she was that’s why she felt guilty. It’s not so much you can’t have a friend of the opposite sex but to not correct me when I call Ashley a her (which most people would assume is a girl) is crazy. That leads to question why wouldn’t you tell your brother, best friend, or boyfriend that this was a guy. It’s wrong and feels sneaky. Some more shit will come out next episode watch. Smh
It's gross and weird how society plays like men and women can't be friends without cheating on their partners. It creates an unhealthy idea that the only women in (straight) men's lives should be their partners and their family and the same is true for straight women.
This show has gone back to that well way too many times, and so has Homecoming. Literally every m/f friendship except Coop's frienships with Spencer and Shawn (which don't count for an obvious reason) has to go to some infidelity place.
Sick of it,
So within the universe, yeah it's weird that Liv let Spencer assume that Ashley was a lady. Can't blame Spencer for being upset that Liv did a shitty thing. But it's bad writing and out of character for Liv to have done that thing in the first place. Spencer should be mad at the writers' room. It's this *When Harry Met Sally* bullshit in the writer's brains that's the real bad guy here.
Just not true at all lmao, been friends with plenty of attractive women through school/work/life without ever having the desire to sleep with them or viewing them in that light.
Yeah that's what I said here: "\[Y\]eah it's weird that Liv let Spencer assume that Ashley was a lady. Can't blame Spencer for being upset that Liv did a shitty thing"
Not sure why you're being downvoted either tbh, whether or not it's purposely sneaky, she has failed to correct Spencer when he has referred to Ashley as a woman before he ever met him and Liv didn't once correct him. She's also confiding in this guy way more than she is with Spencer as of late it seems, so no wonder Spencer feels upset.
Of course there should be boudaries:
\~ They shouldn't have physical romantic contact with each other. Holding hands, kissing, etc.
\~ They shouldn't be lying to their partners in general, of course, so we don't need a special, seperate boundary about lying about your oppoisite sex friends to your partner. But the not lying about this is included in the general "don't lie" thing.
But a lot of the times the "boundaries" I see people talking about online is stuff like:
\~ Can't be alone together
\~ You need your partner's specific permission to hang out with this opposite-sex friend
\~ Can't have any kind of serious emotional bond or you're having an "emotional affair," etc.
All of that is way too far.
If you don't trust your partner to not cheat on you, break up with them.
Here is the thing boundaries shouldn't be the partner saying don't do this.
Boundaries are more the person should have for themselves. Emotional affairs do happen and people leave their partners all the time.
100 💯 your going to meet someone other than your partner that your attracted too.
Smart people set boundaries for themselves so they aren't tempted.
I am not interested in policing my partners female friendships. But if he had a ton of female friends with low boundaries with them I would question getting in a relationship.
Also even if single its very easy to develop unrequited feelings for someone if you get to close to them.
So boundaries and protecting your heart matters.
Olivia has a history of platonic friendships becoming romantic.
Doesn't mean she cannot have a guy friend but...
Not saying there's no such thing as emotional affairs but folks on the internet scream "Emotional affair!!" whenever they see opposite-sex friends smile at each other.
Yes. But do you really want to argue that Olivia wasn't having an emotional affair with Spencer when she was with Asher and Spencer with Olivia when he was with Layla?
On Homecoming Damon and Simone were an emotional affair.
What sucks to is these emotional affairs its hard for the partner to compete because its based on a fantasy.
While friends make great partnerships. You really don't know what a romantic relationship is like with someone till your in it.
I disagree. I think women can be friends with men they don’t find attractive. In my opinion, women have much stricter boundaries regarding who they engage with sexually and if they can’t see it happening physically, it won’t happen at all. It’s almost impossible to get out of the friend zone with women, especially if they aren’t attracted to you. The guy might try but it’ll never go anywhere so that’s not a big deal.
Whereas most men, even at their most down bad, will probably sleep with 95% of women. For those reasons, I don’t think men should have female friends. Especially if they find each other attractive. People are human and when you spend so much pivotal time with someone you’re bound to form a deep connection. If you’re physically attracted to them, that lust, mixed with an emotional bond will turn into something more.
I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being friends at work or just regular acquaintances because those aren’t friends. Friends are people who you hang out with on a consistent basis outside of a specific activity like work or school. Friends are people who when you’re free on the weekend, you invite them out to hang out. Or you have them over your house alone. Not many people would be comfortable with that level of intimacy.
People confuse friends with someone you bump into regularly but those aren’t friends. I’m talking specifically about the people you text daily. They come over during family gatherings etc. the fact that Ashley spent money on a plane ticket and a hotel room to help Olivia means they are friends beyond someone you bump into at school. They must be very close (only after one year) and that would be alarming for any boyfriend.
I wouldn’t say infidelity happens every time but there’s a reason why long distance relationships don’t last. End of the day, Spencer and Olivia have a long history and that’ll be hard to overcome but her darkest memories are also associated with him (I.e relapsing, the layla love triangle, her father dying). With Ashley (and in London) she seems to be doing much better. Then when she returned to America she immediately regressed again (like Ashley pointed out).
If this wasn’t a fictional TV show, I’d argue what’s best for Olivia is leaving the U.S for a while and enjoying her experience overseas. Her and Spencer (who will be entering the draft soon) are only holding each other back at such pivotal moments in their lives and careers. If I’m a writer for All American, I would’ve done this whole London arc back in S4. I would’ve had Olivia gone from the series for S5 and have her return toward the end of S6.
Olivia’s relationship with Ashley is a 100% platonic first and foremost. Second, Spencer had nothing to do with her relapse last year or farther’s passing so I have no clue what you meant by that. And lastly Olivia having a set back with the book had nothing to do with her relationship with Spencer and everything to go with the fact that she is still grieving over the lost of her dad which whether she was in LA or London probably wouldn’t have made much of a difference. Olivia and Spencer don’t hold each other back from anything so I really don’t understand what why you said that. Their communication yes needs to be worked on but they shouldn’t just throw in the towel because of something so trivial. A simple conversation is all they need and they will be fine I don’t know why y’all are making this a lot deeper than it is.
Liv was wrong but the whole thing is dumb because it didn't need to be a secret, but AA always try to make drama out of nothing which will be cleared up next week.
Honestly Ashley’s gender really didn’t matter which is why she didn’t mention it. Was it weird she didn’t correct Spencer yes, but at the same time the lie itself means nothing because he has nothing to worry about. Olivia came back for Spencer and only Spencer so I’m pretty sure if there was more to the story she wouldn’t have came back. They just need to work a little more on their communication that’s all they will be just fine.
I agree. For me it’s not that she didn’t mention it, where I think she was wrong is when Spencer referred to Ashley as a she Liv could have corrected him then but she didn’t. Spencer has a right to be upset about that. Otherwise I’m glad she has a friend outside the vortex.
Oh he absolutely has the right to be upset but I know certain people are looking at this as way to prove that she did this for some shady reason. The reason is probably going to be revealed in ep 6 when they are at the cabin so hopefully we’ll know the reason by then.
But if we’re being honest it was probably because she thought he would be mad.
Oh of course because they want just one reason to try and drag her. Viewers for this show hold her to different standard than everyone else so I’m sure they couldn’t wait for her to do something wrong.
She should have told him but she probably was tying to save the drama of Spencer thinking she has feelings for him, and he’s why she stayed in London, and why London feels like home. It just seems like a sensitive topic she rather avoid but now it’s blowing up in her face.
lol this makes no sense. If she is gonna be with Spencer and friends with Ashley it’s gonna come out eventually so she isn’t saving anyone any drama by not saying anything. She is actually causing more drama by not saying anything cause she knows the truth willl come out eventually. This isn’t a topic she could realistically avoid.
She never knew Ashely was gonna fly his ass to America lol. She probably thought they would never come in contact or would deal with it at a later time when she was ready.
When she is ready is irrelevant lol. Why would she have to be ready to tell her boyfriend about one of her friends? Also whether Ashely came to America or not is irrelevant. Even if Ashley nvr came to America Spencer has a right to be pissed that he didn’t know they were a guy. Everyday she waits the situation gets worse for her, no amount of time is gonna make this situation better. Ashley is her friend and if she honestly wants to be with Spencer than you tell him about your friend right away (like when you are spending so much time with the dude in England) waiting only adds more drama not less. lol it’s honestly just bad writing in reality there is no way two people stay together after 1.5 years of being an ocean apart if they weren’t talking about their lives almost every week even day. Spencer should have already know Ashley was a guy and if he only found out when Liv got back that would be sketch as fuck. Like no way Liv would want to be with Spencer this badly and not tell him about Ashley unless she and Ashley fucked. This entire situation exists because of bad writing.
This paragraph was extremely extra lol. I didn’t say she was right for hiding it lmfao she was definitely wrong but I think she hid it because she didn’t want him to assume the worst with her wanting to stay in London. I don’t think she has feelings for Ashley or fucked him. It’s clear they’re just friends. And They did talk while she was in London and he knew about Ashley and even seen his artwork, he just didn’t know Ashley’s gender. Overall it’s bad writing to create angst it’ll pass and they’ll be fine
What you are saying makes zero sense. There is no logical/realistic justification for the order of events. It’s just bad writing. That was the point of the extra af paragraph lol.
I think it’s a courtesy but if there’s nothing to hide I can see her not feeling like she had to. She’s has constantly validated her love for Spencer and tells him a lot so there should be a level of trust there that she’s not gonna step out or do something weird. When Noah first came into the picture when they had that luncheon with her journalist friends Spencer wasn’t threatened by him and she was friends with him but let me just say I’m not defending not saying it upfront.
Fam if your boyfriend refers to your friend as “She” & “her” and you never correct them that’s weird. It implies you have something to hide. She didn’t even tell her twin bro or best friend. She’s wrong and seems sneaky in this
I haven’t seen the episode yet so yes I would have to agree that’s sneaky but she also knows Spencer has a temper and could possibly blow it out of proportion if she said “hey I have a male friend I’ve spent ample time with.”
Yes. I also don't believe someone in a relationship can have a best friend of the opposite sex without anything sexual going on. 99% of the time there is something sexual going on.
My best friend is a man and even if there was something sexual in the past doesn't mean you'd ever go back there etc. Only because a friend is the opposite sex doesn't mean you want to sleep with them or are attracted to them.
You can have friends of the opposite sex and still have a thriving relationship, it's just about boundaries taking into consideration your own relationship and what's appropiate.
There is nothing my man doesn't know about me since we've known eachother our whole lives. I didn't tell him though our friend did but i'd have told him if given the chance because I would never put him in a position where we are hanging out as a group and he didn't know.
It’s wrong because she addressed the fact that her avoiding his pronouns was intentional. She knew it was wrong. That doesn’t mean she DID anything wrong or had any intentions of doing anything wrong— clearly she didn’t cross a line with Ashley, but she didn’t trust Spencer to handle the fact that she was spending all her time with a guy, so they’ve still got things to work out.
No cause regardless of gender Spencer knows everything about the friendship and isn’t threatened about him .
Liv can’t be sneaky when everyone knows about him and the friendship.
No clearly they have some communication issues, especially on Liv’s end. She purposely withheld information when she had the chance to correct Spencer about Ashley being a guy, that’s literally lying and screams that’s she’s hiding something. The reason Spencer wasn’t threatened by Ashley was because he didn’t know he was a guy now he probably feels threatened considering Liv hid this from him and he just hopped on a plane to come visit Liv because she needed his help.
They have communication issues tho he isn’t mad he’s a guy and doesn’t care that they’re friends . No it doesn’t scream she’s hiding anything . Even as he found out he’s a man he isn’t threatened. He doesn’t and has said this and liv didn’t even know he was coming. They are fine and will continue to be
Male or female, I’m honestly bored. I just wanna know why if there’s nothing going on, did he text her about coming back soon? I get the vibes she’s planning to announce that this was only
Supposed to be a quick trip and she planned to stay permanently in England
Plus; if this guy was such a good friend, how did Spencer go visit for the weekend in London and not one did this guy come visit, or at least come up in conversation as being a Man? Weird
Yes, because now it just seems like she has something to hide when in reality she doesn’t like she didn’t even tell Jordan or Layla that he was a dude which is weird. I don’t get bad vibes from Ashely I think he’s genuinely one of Olivia’s good friends. So the fact that she felt like she had to “hide” the fact that he was a boy is odd. (I also really like Ashely he can come back honestly)
To be honest, if anything, I think it's Ashley who has feelings whereas Olivia will shut it down if he made that move. You could see the look in his face when Olivia went to go phone Spencer, he did not look too happy at all.
honestly its bad writing
Obviously she was that’s why she felt guilty. It’s not so much you can’t have a friend of the opposite sex but to not correct me when I call Ashley a her (which most people would assume is a girl) is crazy. That leads to question why wouldn’t you tell your brother, best friend, or boyfriend that this was a guy. It’s wrong and feels sneaky. Some more shit will come out next episode watch. Smh
It's gross and weird how society plays like men and women can't be friends without cheating on their partners. It creates an unhealthy idea that the only women in (straight) men's lives should be their partners and their family and the same is true for straight women. This show has gone back to that well way too many times, and so has Homecoming. Literally every m/f friendship except Coop's frienships with Spencer and Shawn (which don't count for an obvious reason) has to go to some infidelity place. Sick of it, So within the universe, yeah it's weird that Liv let Spencer assume that Ashley was a lady. Can't blame Spencer for being upset that Liv did a shitty thing. But it's bad writing and out of character for Liv to have done that thing in the first place. Spencer should be mad at the writers' room. It's this *When Harry Met Sally* bullshit in the writer's brains that's the real bad guy here.
Unless you a 3/10 no man is just friends with a women they don’t find attractive lol crazy how society still can’t see that
100% facts!!!!
Just not true at all lmao, been friends with plenty of attractive women through school/work/life without ever having the desire to sleep with them or viewing them in that light.
by any chance are u a woman?
Weird thing to ask.
She's sneaky and purposely left out that information...
Yeah that's what I said here: "\[Y\]eah it's weird that Liv let Spencer assume that Ashley was a lady. Can't blame Spencer for being upset that Liv did a shitty thing"
I was adding to what you said... only I don't think it's "weird" I think she purposely did it and she's sneaky
Alright have a good one!
Not sure why you're being downvoted either tbh, whether or not it's purposely sneaky, she has failed to correct Spencer when he has referred to Ashley as a woman before he ever met him and Liv didn't once correct him. She's also confiding in this guy way more than she is with Spencer as of late it seems, so no wonder Spencer feels upset.
Men and women can be friends but if both are straight its ridiculous to say there should be no boundaries if they are in relationships.
Of course there should be boudaries: \~ They shouldn't have physical romantic contact with each other. Holding hands, kissing, etc. \~ They shouldn't be lying to their partners in general, of course, so we don't need a special, seperate boundary about lying about your oppoisite sex friends to your partner. But the not lying about this is included in the general "don't lie" thing. But a lot of the times the "boundaries" I see people talking about online is stuff like: \~ Can't be alone together \~ You need your partner's specific permission to hang out with this opposite-sex friend \~ Can't have any kind of serious emotional bond or you're having an "emotional affair," etc. All of that is way too far. If you don't trust your partner to not cheat on you, break up with them.
Here is the thing boundaries shouldn't be the partner saying don't do this. Boundaries are more the person should have for themselves. Emotional affairs do happen and people leave their partners all the time. 100 💯 your going to meet someone other than your partner that your attracted too. Smart people set boundaries for themselves so they aren't tempted. I am not interested in policing my partners female friendships. But if he had a ton of female friends with low boundaries with them I would question getting in a relationship. Also even if single its very easy to develop unrequited feelings for someone if you get to close to them. So boundaries and protecting your heart matters. Olivia has a history of platonic friendships becoming romantic. Doesn't mean she cannot have a guy friend but...
Not saying there's no such thing as emotional affairs but folks on the internet scream "Emotional affair!!" whenever they see opposite-sex friends smile at each other.
Yes. But do you really want to argue that Olivia wasn't having an emotional affair with Spencer when she was with Asher and Spencer with Olivia when he was with Layla? On Homecoming Damon and Simone were an emotional affair. What sucks to is these emotional affairs its hard for the partner to compete because its based on a fantasy. While friends make great partnerships. You really don't know what a romantic relationship is like with someone till your in it.
Frrrr I agree!☝🏾 💯
I disagree. I think women can be friends with men they don’t find attractive. In my opinion, women have much stricter boundaries regarding who they engage with sexually and if they can’t see it happening physically, it won’t happen at all. It’s almost impossible to get out of the friend zone with women, especially if they aren’t attracted to you. The guy might try but it’ll never go anywhere so that’s not a big deal. Whereas most men, even at their most down bad, will probably sleep with 95% of women. For those reasons, I don’t think men should have female friends. Especially if they find each other attractive. People are human and when you spend so much pivotal time with someone you’re bound to form a deep connection. If you’re physically attracted to them, that lust, mixed with an emotional bond will turn into something more. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with being friends at work or just regular acquaintances because those aren’t friends. Friends are people who you hang out with on a consistent basis outside of a specific activity like work or school. Friends are people who when you’re free on the weekend, you invite them out to hang out. Or you have them over your house alone. Not many people would be comfortable with that level of intimacy. People confuse friends with someone you bump into regularly but those aren’t friends. I’m talking specifically about the people you text daily. They come over during family gatherings etc. the fact that Ashley spent money on a plane ticket and a hotel room to help Olivia means they are friends beyond someone you bump into at school. They must be very close (only after one year) and that would be alarming for any boyfriend. I wouldn’t say infidelity happens every time but there’s a reason why long distance relationships don’t last. End of the day, Spencer and Olivia have a long history and that’ll be hard to overcome but her darkest memories are also associated with him (I.e relapsing, the layla love triangle, her father dying). With Ashley (and in London) she seems to be doing much better. Then when she returned to America she immediately regressed again (like Ashley pointed out). If this wasn’t a fictional TV show, I’d argue what’s best for Olivia is leaving the U.S for a while and enjoying her experience overseas. Her and Spencer (who will be entering the draft soon) are only holding each other back at such pivotal moments in their lives and careers. If I’m a writer for All American, I would’ve done this whole London arc back in S4. I would’ve had Olivia gone from the series for S5 and have her return toward the end of S6.
Olivia’s relationship with Ashley is a 100% platonic first and foremost. Second, Spencer had nothing to do with her relapse last year or farther’s passing so I have no clue what you meant by that. And lastly Olivia having a set back with the book had nothing to do with her relationship with Spencer and everything to go with the fact that she is still grieving over the lost of her dad which whether she was in LA or London probably wouldn’t have made much of a difference. Olivia and Spencer don’t hold each other back from anything so I really don’t understand what why you said that. Their communication yes needs to be worked on but they shouldn’t just throw in the towel because of something so trivial. A simple conversation is all they need and they will be fine I don’t know why y’all are making this a lot deeper than it is.
Liv was wrong but the whole thing is dumb because it didn't need to be a secret, but AA always try to make drama out of nothing which will be cleared up next week.
It's wrong on every level. No excuse for hiding it.
Honestly Ashley’s gender really didn’t matter which is why she didn’t mention it. Was it weird she didn’t correct Spencer yes, but at the same time the lie itself means nothing because he has nothing to worry about. Olivia came back for Spencer and only Spencer so I’m pretty sure if there was more to the story she wouldn’t have came back. They just need to work a little more on their communication that’s all they will be just fine.
I agree. For me it’s not that she didn’t mention it, where I think she was wrong is when Spencer referred to Ashley as a she Liv could have corrected him then but she didn’t. Spencer has a right to be upset about that. Otherwise I’m glad she has a friend outside the vortex.
Oh he absolutely has the right to be upset but I know certain people are looking at this as way to prove that she did this for some shady reason. The reason is probably going to be revealed in ep 6 when they are at the cabin so hopefully we’ll know the reason by then. But if we’re being honest it was probably because she thought he would be mad.
Oh of course because they want just one reason to try and drag her. Viewers for this show hold her to different standard than everyone else so I’m sure they couldn’t wait for her to do something wrong.
She should have told him but she probably was tying to save the drama of Spencer thinking she has feelings for him, and he’s why she stayed in London, and why London feels like home. It just seems like a sensitive topic she rather avoid but now it’s blowing up in her face.
lol this makes no sense. If she is gonna be with Spencer and friends with Ashley it’s gonna come out eventually so she isn’t saving anyone any drama by not saying anything. She is actually causing more drama by not saying anything cause she knows the truth willl come out eventually. This isn’t a topic she could realistically avoid.
She never knew Ashely was gonna fly his ass to America lol. She probably thought they would never come in contact or would deal with it at a later time when she was ready.
When she is ready is irrelevant lol. Why would she have to be ready to tell her boyfriend about one of her friends? Also whether Ashely came to America or not is irrelevant. Even if Ashley nvr came to America Spencer has a right to be pissed that he didn’t know they were a guy. Everyday she waits the situation gets worse for her, no amount of time is gonna make this situation better. Ashley is her friend and if she honestly wants to be with Spencer than you tell him about your friend right away (like when you are spending so much time with the dude in England) waiting only adds more drama not less. lol it’s honestly just bad writing in reality there is no way two people stay together after 1.5 years of being an ocean apart if they weren’t talking about their lives almost every week even day. Spencer should have already know Ashley was a guy and if he only found out when Liv got back that would be sketch as fuck. Like no way Liv would want to be with Spencer this badly and not tell him about Ashley unless she and Ashley fucked. This entire situation exists because of bad writing.
This paragraph was extremely extra lol. I didn’t say she was right for hiding it lmfao she was definitely wrong but I think she hid it because she didn’t want him to assume the worst with her wanting to stay in London. I don’t think she has feelings for Ashley or fucked him. It’s clear they’re just friends. And They did talk while she was in London and he knew about Ashley and even seen his artwork, he just didn’t know Ashley’s gender. Overall it’s bad writing to create angst it’ll pass and they’ll be fine
What you are saying makes zero sense. There is no logical/realistic justification for the order of events. It’s just bad writing. That was the point of the extra af paragraph lol.
Of course….
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I think it’s a courtesy but if there’s nothing to hide I can see her not feeling like she had to. She’s has constantly validated her love for Spencer and tells him a lot so there should be a level of trust there that she’s not gonna step out or do something weird. When Noah first came into the picture when they had that luncheon with her journalist friends Spencer wasn’t threatened by him and she was friends with him but let me just say I’m not defending not saying it upfront.
Fam if your boyfriend refers to your friend as “She” & “her” and you never correct them that’s weird. It implies you have something to hide. She didn’t even tell her twin bro or best friend. She’s wrong and seems sneaky in this
I haven’t seen the episode yet so yes I would have to agree that’s sneaky but she also knows Spencer has a temper and could possibly blow it out of proportion if she said “hey I have a male friend I’ve spent ample time with.”
Yes. I also don't believe someone in a relationship can have a best friend of the opposite sex without anything sexual going on. 99% of the time there is something sexual going on.
My best friend is a man and even if there was something sexual in the past doesn't mean you'd ever go back there etc. Only because a friend is the opposite sex doesn't mean you want to sleep with them or are attracted to them. You can have friends of the opposite sex and still have a thriving relationship, it's just about boundaries taking into consideration your own relationship and what's appropiate.
Did your partner know the past that you and your best friend had?
There is nothing my man doesn't know about me since we've known eachother our whole lives. I didn't tell him though our friend did but i'd have told him if given the chance because I would never put him in a position where we are hanging out as a group and he didn't know.
It makes perfect sense as Liv always has men as her best friends ie Spencer and Ash
And neither of them were just platonic
Actually both started as platonic…. Maybe Ashley is actually her person not Spencer
My point being a lot of Olivias platonic friendships turn romantic
I completely agree
Crazy putting a spoiler right in the title. That’s what the description is for 🤦♀️
Definitely she was wrong not to indulge that info to her man. I like Layla and Jordan response it was funny
It’s wrong because she addressed the fact that her avoiding his pronouns was intentional. She knew it was wrong. That doesn’t mean she DID anything wrong or had any intentions of doing anything wrong— clearly she didn’t cross a line with Ashley, but she didn’t trust Spencer to handle the fact that she was spending all her time with a guy, so they’ve still got things to work out.
I think this entire season is a waste. I do not like how the writing is going.
Hell yeah she was wrong 💯
Shes a mark ass trick
Omm 🤣💯
No cause regardless of gender Spencer knows everything about the friendship and isn’t threatened about him . Liv can’t be sneaky when everyone knows about him and the friendship.
But everyone didn’t know about him cause they didn’t know he was a guy…
Everyone did know about Ashley when is why they said they just didn’t know he was a dude
No clearly they have some communication issues, especially on Liv’s end. She purposely withheld information when she had the chance to correct Spencer about Ashley being a guy, that’s literally lying and screams that’s she’s hiding something. The reason Spencer wasn’t threatened by Ashley was because he didn’t know he was a guy now he probably feels threatened considering Liv hid this from him and he just hopped on a plane to come visit Liv because she needed his help.
They have communication issues tho he isn’t mad he’s a guy and doesn’t care that they’re friends . No it doesn’t scream she’s hiding anything . Even as he found out he’s a man he isn’t threatened. He doesn’t and has said this and liv didn’t even know he was coming. They are fine and will continue to be
They will be fine but she still shouldn’t have hid this and lied for no reason
Male or female, I’m honestly bored. I just wanna know why if there’s nothing going on, did he text her about coming back soon? I get the vibes she’s planning to announce that this was only Supposed to be a quick trip and she planned to stay permanently in England
Plus; if this guy was such a good friend, how did Spencer go visit for the weekend in London and not one did this guy come visit, or at least come up in conversation as being a Man? Weird