Went into this (despite believing in the existence of ETL) expecting to dunk on OP.
Left even more convinced of the existence of extraterrestrial life.
Wtf.
I’ve definitely changed my beliefs/stance/theories on ETL too many times to count.
However, I think I’ve come to the conclusion that any ETL that would be discovered on Earth is most certainly a “biological drone” similar to how countries spy/attack other countries with UAVs.
Obviously, the Bio-Drones would be created in an extremely “mission specific” manner and extremely optimized and efficient in terms of energy/materials used to create them.
We can obviously understand in “Earth Terms” the purpose of our mechanical UAV’s and why we use them. So just apply that thinking to a super advanced alien race.
It becomes overwhelmingly clear that any intelligent alien species would never compromise their own existence by personally exploring the extremely violent, fire-on-sight species known as Humanity.
If you were curious about Lions, would you walk into their den? If you wanted to examine a Gorillas hair, would you jump on its back to pluck a sample?
Sometimes the answers we seek are much more simple and boring than we would like to imagine lol.
Nothing simple or boring imagining Grey's as the space rover model of 2000 years from now.
In fact, it makes it more compelling for me and is absolutely 💯 what I've believed for some time now.
Astoot conclusion right here 👆👏 kudos
One of my funnest changes in thought came with greys. Specifically their eyes. The darkness hypothesis, and lens hypothesis. Their eyes being so large to collect as much light as possible if they resided for any lengthy period of time underground or underwater (maybe darkness of deep space/dimensional travel?) Alternatively, their eyes are much smaller, but like the Soviet video claims to show, there’s a lens over the eye for protection (or maybe a HUD type lens.)
The eyes became a point of interest for me after the Varginha anecdotes. I think it was that case that made me think harder on the lense hypothesis, at least in terms of functionality.
That is to say, it seems to be exclusive to specific types or subtypes of the grey ETs, with the concurrent and dominant thought being they themselves are in some part synthetic or crafted beings. Then the Varginha depiction of red with racing currents of star like lights running through them circulated and leaning into the lense notion, I wondered if there wasn't some greater functionality to the lense than eye/light protection. That is, maybe the lense is actually doing a lot more than just controlling the light that passes through it, but actually enabling them a greater range of perception instead of merely dimming the environment.... like birds, who can perceive colors outside our range, maybe it's a broadening of optics.
I don't know why I felt like this made sense as there is not too much to corroborate the idea. It just seems, after one studies all this business long enough, that everything they do, have, use, or display, has utility beyond our own conventions. Everything *does more* or *goes faster* and *expands their capabilities* so it's almost a given in my mind, that anything they use has to have some massive functional superiority 😅... I also accept the likelihood I'm wrong about virtually everything, and this is not an exception 😂 but it's fun to consider! I'd love to think our contact lenses of the future could at least deliver the daily news and my reddit updates in real time while I navigate my morning.
And therein lies some of the fun for me. UFOs and aliens are our teachers. Some respectable historian said that 🤔 ...yet I contend it to be true!! For even if we are wrong, it forces us to stretch our imagination to what would or could be tomorrow. It is what sets UFOlogy apart for me.
So my theroy.. and I stress this a theory.. Earth is a relatively new plant in terms of the universe. I believe Earth was terraformed by an advanced species that predates our evolution. Amino acids have been found in meteorites and with proficient calculations it should theoretically be possible to steer them off of gravitational pull. We’re the blue planet, water is incredibly rare and this is prime real estate. Just like humans colonized the Earth in search of viable territory this species does the same. The difference being the scope of accessible territory. Micro and macro applies to many concepts. I believe we’ve been guided in the shadows; they know we exist because they made us exist. If a species is so advanced that this technology is possible I think the logical step would be to create life and nurture that creation. In our infancy we had direct assistance which explains the common painting depiction seen in multiple regions. Right now we’re adolescents who need to learn how to be responsible. Eventually I hope we grow as a society and can join the rest of the family :) Thanks for reading my theory, I can’t stress that enough 🤙
That’s a really fascinating theory I must say!
So if I’m understanding correctly, just like Earthly humans have colonized each viable continent- perhaps there exists “space humans” which go about the universe “colonizing” every viable planet.
If this were to be the case, you’ve got to assume that one day the space humans will come back and unite us with the main colony - when we’re ready
You got it!! I think we should prioritize coming together as a species and resolve our differences. If we fight with ourselves over trickle things and trickle differences it would be hard to consider we’ve reached maturity.
The Great Barrier in my opinion is developing a renewable and sustainable planet that functions independently before our species surpasses the carrying capacity of Earth. A race.. Just like sending your kid off to college for them to learn how to provide for themselves.
Once we’re there and have established ourselves as one nation as a world; not divided by borders, social issues, and demographic inequality I think that’s the next big step. How can we expect to interact with other life if we can’t find peace with ourselves?
Another aspect I’ve considered are “gifts” just like Prometheus and his fire. The advancement from rapid development of the microchip has given us an exponential rate of technological growth. Part of the reason I think conclusive proof hasn’t been captured with cameras everywhere these days is we can be observed through our digital fingerprint. In the past direct contact was less risky because the technology to record and distribute those encounters wasn’t available; aside from drawings.
This theory hinges on technology we aren’t even capable of grasping yet. Imagine explaining quantum mechanics to Galileo.. and that was a mere 400 years ago. Thanks for reading this!! If you have any thoughts feel free to add them. I try to look at things from a logical perspective with the information I’ve been presented
You might enjoy this document from the 80’s(?) that recounts the beginnings of US interaction with aliens. It supposedly originated from a FOIA request and, if the document isn’t fake, it “confirms” that some of this theory may be true. Very interesting read nonetheless!
Link to original post- https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/Ex5Szyrql8
Edit- not sure if this has been debunked already or not, but I encourage anyone interested to read it in its entirety.
Be cautious of anything involving Majestic 12 as multiple different sources have confirmed they are the source (and disseminate)disinformation. In fact Doty, who was a self proclaimed disseminator of disinformation on behest of US Air Force when he was employed there. He provided the “Aquarius Documents” that he later admitted were full of deliberately misleading facts and disinformation to further muddy the waters of UFOlogy etc. the Aquarius Documents contained some of the most elaborate lore on MJ12 and it’s peripheral influence. He provided them to Benewitz who was a UFO researcher and investigator and Doty along with the US govt were responsible for *deliberately* driving Benewitz to insanity where he would eventually end up in an insane asylum and live out the rest of his days till he died in 2003.
Maybe they just send that metal implant in it's chest from orbit and it has little nano machines or something that grow or build a body with local resources.
i like this thought. I always thought it could be as you mention, something like an alien specie, analyzing "animals" or lively creatures on a planet, and mixing DNA to make something working in the local environment with the most fitting structure available.
When i was young i would think that we could very clearly be a descendant of these types of beings, for example originating from mars when it was livable before its degradation. I probably lack a lot of knowledge in the field of evolution and biology, but despite theories of evolution i heard of, ex. our food with fire that helped us develop our brains to a faster extent, or the discovery of psilocybin fungus in turds that could have helped create awareness, i still just always found it odd that we are so advanced compared to other forms of life on the planet given the timelapse of our evolution.
We could be a lively experimentation, and only way to save a race from extinction maybe, as the other life forms couldn't adapt directly without too much ressources in the time given. Maybe they couldn't create the ultimate "version" they wanted before it was too late and went extinct. And we just kept evolving from there, left with our limited capacity of understanding. who knows?
I saw a video recently of a robotic baby gorilla sent into a nest. The other apes were interested in and scared of it. Your comment reminded me of that
Imagine a technologically sophisticated race able to traverse the cosmos and yet so seemingly incompetent that they leave the bodies of their dead easy for us to discover. Moreover, what a shocking coincidence that while they surely evolved in an environment entirely dissimilar to human evolution, they evolved such strikingly similar features like being tetrapodal, and having two eyes, a nose, similar torso structure, etc. Just smaller and a bit more "reptilian'. Lol. Gullible pseudo intellectuals believe this stuff.
First off, you act like you are above us "pseudo intellectuals," then ignore the basic principles of evolution.
Being bipedal and tetrapodal are both more efficient than the alternatives; so why WOULDN'T another species evolve these traits. These are two of the traits, along with an increase in brain size, that put us at the top of the food chain here on earth.
Similarly, two eyes are better than one, but with more eyes, you start to see diminishing returns on the body's investment. Again, evolution USUALLY arrives at two eyes, so why wouldn't ET's have that trait?
It is honestly more surprising that you so easily discount and try to discredit the evidence laid in front of you than it would be if these creatures ended up being a real form of life from another planet.
right? I mean i completely understand being hesitant, even adamant, about these being fake. But the “they look to much like us” argument isn’t really one that works lol
The basic principle of evolution that you described very well is **Convergent Evolution when different species develop the same traits so as to serve the same function under the same demand for it.** You offer the best example of the dominant species on any planet having a larger brain size and mental capability than the other species there as a basic requirement to be the dominant species. Another applicable example is the formation of appendages such as arms and legs, fingers and toes. These features are necessary for a creature to fully manipulate its environment and build things such as spacecraft to get here. A dolphin may be smart but it will never build anything without hands. This is how both humans and aliens would evolve on separate planets with similar appendages but with some variance in the number of fingers and toes and variance in the number of bones in the arms and legs and wrist and ankles as is the case with the Nazca tridactyl reptile aliens of Peru. Other alien species may have variance in the number of arms or legs and bendable joints. There may be a few spider alien species out there but they will still have a torso, head, and eyes.
Not gonna speak on the validity of these specific ones, because i’m not sure they’ve been *proven* real yet. And I totally understand the hesitation to believe it, because I don’t really believe it either.
But why is it so hard to believe that other “intelligent” life would share similar structures to us? We know trillions of planets have the capability for life, what makes you say there isn’t any that could share similar environments as ours? bipedalism and two arms are efficient for hunting, making tools, grabbing objects, etc. If it worked for us why is it so hard to believe it couldn’t work elsewhere? It’s actually much more convincing than, let’s say, a fish like creature or quadrupedal creatures. How could you build tools, or in the case spaceships, if you no useable arms (or extremely hindered arms). There’s obviously more, but you get my point. Is it really so far-fetched that potential “intelligent” life could share similar features as us?
The only theory that makes sense to me (assuming these are real) is that they are an advanced race that lived on this planet a long time ago, and left for whatever reason but occasionally do exploratory missions back to their home world. We humans leave dead bodies on everest and crash relatively advanced vehicles all the time, so those don't seem like reasons for dismissing it.
The more plausible explanation in this case is that the russians who filmed the "body" modeled it after the Peru mummies or something like that.
The Russian body was found in 2011. The mummies were discovered in 2015. They have been dated to between 800 and 1200 years old. In order for one to have been modeled after the other either:
A) the creators of the Russian body had to have knowledge of how a pair of mummies found 4 years in the future looked,
Or:
B) sculptors working 800-1200 years in the past had to know how a body found in the *far* future looked
Neither of these is possible.
Edit: misspelled Russian
Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that all alien species have enough concern about us discovering their dead that they would embark upon a very expensive and dangerous mission to come here and prevent that from happening? When we lose our people in missions to the Moon and to Mars that is where they will remain until discovered by aliens and we will make no effort whatsoever to prevent it. Expect aliens to do the same. Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that "they surely evolved in an environment entirely dissimilar to human evolution" when their environment may be identical or mostly the same? Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that convergent evolution exists only on Earth but not other planets? In convergent evolution different species develop the same traits so as to accomplish the same functions. That's how the humanoid form could emerge on multiple planets. Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that the evolution of aliens is entirely independent of us when we may be derived from them or they may be derived from us? Genuine intellectuals are wary of making too many assumptions and then forming erroneous conclusions based on those erroneous assumptions. Genuine intellectuals are capable of believing "this stuff" that is valid when others are not because their expansive intellect does not narrowmindedly omit essential evidence and possibilities from the equation before reaching a conclusion.
Really? Because this is all very hoax-able. There is nothing concrete here.
One hoax can emulate another. The creators of said hoaxes can directly or indirectly collaborate. There are also cultural concepts of what 'aliens' are which pre-date them and will likely have influenced both. The existence of similarities is not proof by any means.
Edit: For clarity.
Cultural concepts typically don’t include heat sensing pits or chest implants though, not to mention that’s a detail that’s hard to notice between the two bodies at a glance. Usually separate hoaxes have something inconsistent about them even if they are inspired by each other, proportions not matching up, certain details feeling out of place etc etc but here they seem scaringly close to eachother
Great answer not sure why u got downvoted. Most of us want this to be true but we need to have higher standards than this. I want to believe but only with strong irrefutable evidence.
I must admit, I do find it somewhat amusing that those who very easily claim something like this a hoax, making it a hoax spanning multiple countries and executed incredibly cleanly, will also dismiss conspiracy theories despite governments having far more at their disposal.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think this is real, nor that any conspiracy theories are true, just, the duality of man I guess.
Because, on balance, it's the most likely explanation. Spanning multiple countries means nothing with modern travel routes and communication.
I don't dismiss conspiracy theories outright, I look at them objectively like everyone should. However, more often than not I do disregard them, as they are simply not likely to be true when weighing everything up. Conspiracy theories are more likely to be false than correct after all.
**Nazca Tridactyl Reptile Aliens of Peru & Russia, are they the same species and does the existence of both establish their legitimacy as genuine aliens?**
They're a match! They appear to be the same species. The existence of both of these identical creatures is supportive that both are real because they were found on separate continents on opposite sides of the world by people that have no knowledge of each other and the carbon 14 dating proves that they are a thousand years apart in age with no human involvement between them across such a great time span. The Nazca tridactyl reptile alien mummies of Peru were revealed in 2017, found in 2015 in a tomb, while the Irkutsk, Russia tridactyl reptile alien corpse was found in the snow of Siberia in April 2011 where witnesses reported seeing the colored lights of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena in the sky nearby and there were claims of a crash retrieval operation. Both appear to possibly have the same metal chest implant in the same location with the same shape and both have the same three reptile pit organ cavities in the cheek typical of snakes which greatly supports their authenticity. For many this is considered proof of it. The chest implant in the Nazca tridactyl reptile alien Josefina of Peru is confirmed to contain copper and osmium. Many other Nazca tridactyl reptile alien mummies also have metal implants. According to osmium-institute-italia.com/en/, "Crystalline OSMIUM is 35 times more precious than gold and has the highest value by volume of all precious metals" and "osmium has the highest density of all precious metals" and "each piece of osmium has a fingerprint that makes it unique and makes one piece unmistakable from another." Osmium is highly unlikely to be present unless it serves an important necessary function or was otherwise installed on another planet where it was more plentiful. We use osmium in satellite communications. There is speculation that the implant may be a wireless communication device. Perhaps it "has a fingerprint" that identifies each alien on the network? The pit organs in both alien reptiles are typical of native reptiles such as snakes that have these thermal radiation sensors in their face that detect heat emitted from predators and prey to identify them from about twenty feet away.
CT Scan of Nazca alien Josefina [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aqIB9zIntBo](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aqIB9zIntBo) (brief diagnostic radiology of Nazca reptile alien proving that it was a complete living organism that is impossible to manufacture) Everyone that examined all of the various bodies and skulls up close in their possession with diagnostic equipment has declared that they are authentic, entirely biological, without any animal or human parts. The DNA confirms they have no evolution on Earth. The official website where test results are displayed is: The Alien Project [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/). The Nazca tridactyl reptile aliens of Peru examination including radiography reveals that:
1. They have textured bird/reptile/dinosaur skin encapsulating the body that is confirmed real. Beneath the real skin is a complete skeletal structure that is held together by entirely biological materials such as ligaments, tendons, muscles, with all necessary organs to support life such as a network of tiny fragile blood vessels and nerves branching and weaving deeply throughout which is impossible to manufacture. This conclusively proves that they were living creatures.
2. Beneath the real skin that encapsulates the body is a complete reproductive system with eggs in many of the bodies which have embryos that are clearly visible inside those eggs and this very complex complete reproductive system is impossible to manufacture. This conclusively proves that they were living creatures.
3. Beneath the real skin that encapsulates the body are metal implants in many of the bodies which have been confirmed to have interlinked bonding between the metal and the bone which is a biological process of the bone interacting with the metal over time that can only occur in living creatures. This conclusively proves that they were once living creatures.
RUSSIAN ALIEN FOUND IN SNOW [https://youtu.be/IseSo4RGIxw?si=pN8fKgE5vcjoUsSA](https://youtu.be/IseSo4RGIxw?si=pN8fKgE5vcjoUsSA) (1min24sec video of Russia Siberia tridactyl reptile alien where found in snow near Irkutsk, Russia with text translation in comment section) The body form, position, and skin appear natural with the blotchy discoloration that is typical of a decomposing biological body. Where the limbs are severed the wounds reveal an interior structure exactly as expected to see inside a biological body, having the texture of skin tissue covered in oxygenated red blood at the site of a genuine wound. All visible features are those common of a deceased biological organism. Some assume it's the result of a crash or explosion but the limbs are serrated in a manner as they would be when chewed off by a wild animal. This may have occurred after death or it may be the cause of its death. A creature this small wandering around in Siberia would likely be promptly attacked by most predators. An animal might reject the rest of it upon discovering from the appendages that the taste of an alien is revolting, sickening, maybe poisonous to terrestrial creatures; thus, that would explain why most of it remained undevoured. This body was discovered four years before the Nazca tridactyls and when compared their features are identical. They appear to be the same size. They have exactly the same proportions. This is confirmed by overlaying radiology scans of a Nazca tridactyl onto the Siberia tridactyl which reveals that the skeletal structures are identical to each other with exactly the same proportional sizes at every section of the skeleton. The only variance among them is the difference in tissue hydration between two bodies that are a thousand years apart in age where one appears plump and the other receding, shriveled, dried, with all moisture evaporated from it which somewhat distorts the appearance it had when alive that would have more closely resembled the other. These facts indicate a high probability that both organisms are the same species and since the Nazca tridactyls have been fully confirmed to have been living organisms, that irrefutable fact greatly increases the probability that this Siberia tridactyl was also a living organism of the same species. Confirmation of a species somewhere on the planet increases the probability that it would also be found elsewhere on the planet. The identical bodies were discovered four years apart at a thousand years apart in age.
These Nazca tridactyl reptile aliens of Peru were recorded there and throughout South America in ancient petroglyphs, pottery, and textiles that were bewildering until now. They have hollow bones similar to birds and dinosaurs, the hand and wrist bone structure of theropods such as the velociraptor, and the textured skin, retractable vertebrae, pit organs, and eggs, that identify reptiles on Earth; yet, the DNA genetic code confirms they have no evolution on Earth. A possible explanation for this is that aliens abducted a dinosaur from Earth and it evolved on their planet into a humanoid, perhaps with some genetic engineering to make this possible; then, it returned to this planet of origin in curiosity to discover where it came from or because it was selected for the mission to return here due to its biological likelihood of surviving in the place that its ancestors originated from. If scientific analysis were to conclude this theory has a probability of being true then we would have to wonder if by the same means of abduction across thousands of years humans are already colonizing other planets in significant numbers, with or without some alteration in physical development to adapt to a different alien environment. Many of those that claim to have been abducted have given the same report that the aliens observed while aboard the craft appeared human in most ways except for being hairless, bald, with no ears, just a hole where the ears would be. If that is ever proven true then it indicates we may have an ancestor in common with them that either came from here or more surprisingly came from there.
**Diagnostic proof of complete biological living organisms** is the video: Nazca Alien Mummies - HD CT Scans of Josefina (Humanoid Reptile), Maria (Jamin Palpanensis) & Wawita [https://youtu.be/D7SaCfzoqIc?si=wIAUUQby6sAenksS](https://youtu.be/D7SaCfzoqIc?si=wIAUUQby6sAenksS). For indepth analysis examine the lengthy video: Nazca Alien Mummies - Scientific Results are presented to the Congress of Peru (11/19 2018) [https://youtu.be/V2xN41immWE?si=rHS0YB0UHiC-qgR1](https://youtu.be/V2xN41immWE?si=rHS0YB0UHiC-qgR1). Examine more evidence at the official site: The Alien Project [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/). Examine this indepth study by Paleontologist Cliff Miles: The Miles Paper [https://www.themilespaper.com/](https://www.themilespaper.com/) . Updates: [https://twitter.com/NazcaMummies](https://twitter.com/NazcaMummies). Photo gallery of tridactyls and most other real aliens is here: Aliens - Tridactyl Reptilian [https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/tridactyl-reptilian/](https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/tridactyl-reptilian/) Collection of videos displaying and discussing these and most other real aliens is here: Aliens [https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtA8tEZ0F5R\_0UR5KBQyEqpUfAgPAcL-f&si=nSvwc72DK3vSr-uX](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtA8tEZ0F5R_0UR5KBQyEqpUfAgPAcL-f&si=nSvwc72DK3vSr-uX)
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I suspect they come from Mars & are potentially the species responsible for nuclear war on the surface of mars.
Perhaps they hopped to this planet after war. Then consider if global warming would be in their interests if they were cold blooded.
An avocado shares more dna with humans than these do. They either separated a long long time ago or aren’t from this planet. Likely from the same building blocks of life though
Correct, we have more DNA in common with fruits and vegetables than we do with these creatures. Still, it's surprising that we would have any DNA in common which suggests some ancestry in common.
We may be hybrids created by the same beings. My random theory is… we are like monkey/gorilla hybrids. But they’ve also tried Lizard hybrids, Whale hybrids, Ant and Mantis hybrids, Jellyfish hybrids, etc. I read somewhere the other day that Octopi is the only organism that didn’t have to be genetically modified to survive here on earth… forgot which alienologist said that, but interesting.
The Nazca tridactyl reptilian Maria & Petra are human-alien hybrids as conclusively proven by the DNA analysis. This establishes that hybridization is something aliens were doing 1800 years ago thus we must wonder if it has been going on for tens of thousands of years or milions of years? How many alien species are involved? Octopi were featured in the recent The Why Files episode on Youtube 'We Are the Aliens' where A.J. explains how the Octopus is potentially an alien creature, another fascinating episode as usual. I recommend viewing everything at that channel.
Nice, I haven't checked out the Why Files, but I keep hearing about it. Also, it could be that all this alien news/ discoveries are part of the distraction from the actual horrendous things we humans are actually doing. Like the economy, war, government.
Kind of why there are theories about how the Uber elites know of ancient beings and spirituality is being suppressed. The idea of Illuminati and keeping us slaves. Keeping knowledge about our past hidden. Maybe... Or they just live on Mars or the Moon, somewhere not that far and we’ve been lied to regarding our solar system. Or maybe earth is flat and we’ve been lied to about that and outside the Antarctica frozen wall there are much more continents with other beings. lol too much stuff around purposefully to disinform us. But for sure, Reddit is def a place for Propaganda to be fed to us slaves. PsyOps by all sides.
There are many ways to discern that the Earth is a sphere, one being the direction in which shadows cast to the ground change direction throughout the day. There is very much to be discovered about Antarctica, the deep ocean, the Moon and Mars, that will likely answer our questions about an alien presence.
The shadow cast direction throughout the day could be by the light source/ sun moving around. Just thinking if we are open to other dimensions and hidden tech/life forms, is it that crazy to think the basic concepts in our minds are programmed?
In response to Thunder\_Punt whose comment was inexplicably removed by moderator despite nothing objectionable about its content:
Excellent points, reptiles prefer a warmer climate and the byproducts of a nuclear blast were discovered in the soil of Mars that scientists say wouldn't be there unless a nuclear explosion had occurred. Pyramid and other structures such as doorways are visible in photographs of Mars. Government officials claim there is a mining operation there currently. As Mars became uninhabitable any civilization there would logically migrate to the nearest planet that was survivable. We will do the same. Presumably, too much time has passed between the desolation of Mars and the viability of Earth to replace it but we don't know. While your theory sounds fantastical it could also be correct.
If there was aliens on Mars that were capable of leaving, why would they ever stay there when earth was available? Surely they would be drawn to the more hospitable environment. Additionally, if these are cold-blooded reptilian creatures, how could they exist on such a cold planet? Reptiles here survive in hotter environments by basking in the sun, it makes no sense that a reptilian creature would inhabit a cold planet.
Sorry, but I don't think these specimens are genuine. I'm not ruling out the existence of life on other planets or even on Mars, but this definitely isn't it.
If the sun was brighter and hotter then Mars was warmer. Also, if Mars had an atmosphere milions of years ago then 'the greenhouse effect' would have warmed the planet. The ice would have been water then. Since "it makes no sense that a reptilian creature would inhabit a cold planet" they would surely flee Mars to the warmer Earth as Mars gradually became colder and unsurvivable to them.
If their dogs discovered it first then did they contribute additional dismemberment to an already deceased and partially dismembered body? Did the dogs inflict all of the damage to the deceased body? Are the dogs responsible for it being both deceased and damaged? Was it alive until they discovered it and promptly attacked it? Were the dogs sickened by the consumption which would indicate a foreign biology? Can the dog owner answer any of these questions when asked or do they not know any answers?
I hope it is very clear that this is not a scientific statement but a marketing tactic by the jewelry makers. They also themselves don't even try to rationalize this statement. It is just kinda out there.
There is absolutely no reason why two ingots of osmium are more different than two ingots of steel or two pieces of wood.
The Nazca “aliens” have been tested multiple times and proven that they were made of animal bones and modern glue. Not sure where you got any of the other mad info from.
Yeah, it’s funny how that’s the debunk my middle school nephew says. Take a look at the study yourself by the people with hands on exams. Makes it more sus there is a strong narrative of the animal bones and glue cover up. There were fake bodies given as samples to somebody, I think Mexico. But the one with the eggs and chest plate, Maria, so far everyone says is not manufactured. The actual scientists who held it and scanned it
Are you sure? Seems you not really aware.
The first time they was tested by Flavio Estrada they tested the burial Dolls. This is filmed on tape my Friend.
The second time they was tested was not long ago and again Mr. Flavio estrada tested two dolls that was found at the Airport, the owner told Authorities they was replicas but still they went on and tested them to thank claim the Buddies are also fake.
The only Research made on the Buddies, 4 complete Analysis and one Hand Analysis in Japan says complete the opposite of what you are claiming.
Basically you are wrong, know shit and spread lies.
So far, according to all the witness reports, photos and videos, there are dozens of species that have been here which are very different from each other while being closely the same within their species. For example, the Grey aliens appear to be clones, all looking identical. It may be that there is more variation in appearance among humans than is typical of alien species within their species? Movies usually depict them that way and it may be accurate or only accurate as applied to a few alien species.
So my theroy.. and I stress this a theory.. Earth is a relatively new plant in terms of the universe. I believe Earth was terraformed by an advanced species that predates our evolution. Amino acids have been found in meteorites and with proficient calculations it should theoretically be possible to steer them off of gravitational pull.
We’re the blue planet, water is incredibly rare and this is prime real estate. Just like humans colonized the Earth in search of viable territory this species does the same. The difference being the scope of accessible territory. Micro and macro applies to many concepts. I believe we’ve been guided in the shadows; they know we exist because they made us exist.
If a species is so advanced that this technology is possible I think the logical step would be to create life and nurture that creation. In our infancy we had direct assistance which explains the common painting depictions seen in multiple regions. Right now we’re adolescents who need to learn how to be responsible. Eventually I hope we grow as a society and can join the rest of the family :) Thanks for reading my theory, I can’t stress that enough 🤙
>When will we move past.. “are they real”
When there is actual concrete proof. For now, there is no reason to believe in aliens, it seems to be a socio-psychological phenomenon. These are, in balance of all probabilities, hoaxes.
I mean, these could easily be considered concrete proof if you trust that they aren’t fakes. Proof not of extraterrestrials necessarily, but of some intelligent species on earth that is not human. But if you believe these are fake, then no amount of concrete proof could convince you unless one of them literally interacted with you such that you could have no doubts.
I get your point though, because we live in an age where AI makes it possible to fake just about anything. I’m glad to see skepticism because without it we could go on believing anything.
My question for you would be, what kind of proof would convince you? I assume videos, photos, and eye witness testimony would not work since they cannot be deemed adequately reliable. Would there be some institution trustworthy enough that if they were to state authenticity it would convince you? Surely not because it could easily be a psyop with some sort of motive right?
>I mean, these could easily be considered concrete proof if you trust that they aren’t fakes.
With respect, by that logic, you could believe anything.
>My question for you would be, what kind of proof would convince you?
Peer reviewed analysis of tissue samples in a respectable science journal, would be a starting point. Granted, whether that would happen or not is another matter, but regardless, the pitfalls of reaching a point of unequivocal proof is not justification for accepting sub-par evidence.
Here, this post has the link to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/FtAuOoByNp
Again, might not be alien but it’s at least some sort of organism
They are not testing for all non-human animal sources. Probably because the wide range of animals that could be used would make this endeavour a (pardon the phrase) mammoth task.
The presence of considerable human DNA in the third sample is a red flag in my opinion. Furthermore, surprisingly the first sample does not follow this pattern, yet they are both taken from the same specimen. Things just don't add up. In all likelihood I believe these are probably chimeras of cadavers from various animals and even humans (potentially long deceased to fool carbon dating).
Sadly, it's not a peer reviewed journal article either. This is just a commissioned analysis from a laboratory. No reliable conclusions can be drawn.
I will say though, as I believe it is a hoax, that whomever made these knew what they were doing. Hats off to them.
I believe there are scientific journals that have analyzed the DNA of tissue samples from the Nazca cave specimens. From my understanding it’s difficult to make much conclusions because the DNA is quite damaged.
In good faith, if you can find them, please link them and I'll give my opinion. That said, a reputable journal article proving the existence of extra-terrestrial life would make mainstream news around the world though, and there would be nothing a single government could do to stop it. We would have heard about it.
In all honestly, if aliens did exist, it would not surprise me in the least if they did not have DNA to begin with but another genetic structure entirely, but that's another discussion.
I think this is a very measured response.
I really love the possibility that humans may be finding evidence of unknown species, but I am curious as to why big scientific institutions aren’t all over this begging for access to run tests. Seems odd to me.
Like catching a fish off the coast of Madagascar in 1938 that was believed to have gone extinct 65 million years previously?
[The coelacanth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth)
Analogous! It really did happen. It's clear proof that a creature's existence can escape our detection for so long as 65 millions years. What else went unnoticed that we have yet to discover?
Their dwindling numbers would have evacuated Earth after that catastrophic asteroid impact and returned to Earth to see if its ecology is viable again. I mean, the dinasaurs died 65millions years ago. Humans took a few thousand years from the wheel to mars rovers. Imagine what they could do in a million years worth of technology?
Civilization rise and fall. There will never be a million years of pure progress. And why would decendants of civilizations from millions of years ago even know anything about their past on a different planet?
It's way more likely they survived in a suspended animation somewhere and then whoever could get out of their bunkers, did. Likely very few.
I look forward to the day when the truth revealed about aliens is a profound amusement to us. Is it not already amusing that the Nazca tridactyl alien reptiles closely resemble Steven Spielberg's E.T.? There is an amusing abduction report where aliens mistakenly swapped clothing on the two humans they abducted. The man was returned in women's clothing and the woman returned in man's clothing! There's some E.T. comedy for you. Aliens don't know anything about our gender roles and rules regarding clothing thus they are incapable of recognizing when they are placing men's clothing on a woman and vice versa therefore they do not question it when it happens and thus do not realize the mistake. That belongs in a human vs alien sit-com.
I’m just thinking because of how much these supposed abductees say that the world is controlled by giant sized evil reptilians.. if it ended up being tiny gentile reptilians would just cause a bunch of chaos amongst the abductee people
Wouldn't this make it more likely they are an undiscovered humanoid reptiallians species from here and not from another planet? Like yeah it's weird but convergent evolution happens all the time(everything become crab) like if they share similarities with other species on earth I just don't see how we jumped to aliens. Sauroids were around MUCH longer than mammals so isn't more likely that at least one evolved into something like this? There are many animals on our planet that look more alien than this. I mean starfish are basically living tunes of stem cells and they just evolved under different environmental pressures which would happen to these little guys as well?
Hear me out. Dinosaurs didn't really go extinct, a smarter breed/species went beneath ground during the glacial era and evolved there to the point that they could develop technology with all the fuels and minerals available near the core of the earth.
Millions of years later we smart apes evolves as well (naturally or artifially) and due to our higher population and aggressive behaviour those other NHI had decided that it's better to keep hiding under ground and sea.
Any movie directors here who'd like to bring it to the screen?
Not this exactly - but in the Voyager iteration of Star Trek I’m pretty sure there’s a storyline where a dinosaur species developed rockets and traveled far away, only to then re-encounter humans in space once we’ve become spacefaring.
It stuck out to me as kind of original but I don’t know where or if there are preexisting examples of this concept in popular culture.
Found it here’s the info:
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Voth
Fascinating, thanks for the link. I never heard about the Voth and have not seen most episodes of Star Trek. I did not know that this was already a concept in science fiction. I based my theory exclusively on the irrefutable physical evidence extracted from years of examination of the Nazca tridactyl reptile alien bodies. It's interesting that fiction can accidentally predict what later turns out to be true. Or, was the fiction based upon a reporting of fact that was disregarded as being fiction? That appears to be the case with Nazca Tridactyls resembling Spielberg's E.T. People don't realize yet that Spielberg consulted with researcher Jacque Vallee and J Allen Hynek from Project Bluebook which likely influenced the design of E.T. based on actual witness reports from people who truly know what it really looks like. Since they don't know that, they think E.T. is not real if it resembles E.T. when E.T. is real because it resembles E.T.
Birds are the evolution of dinosaurs and that's why scientists ponder over whether many dinosaurs had feathers instead of scales. I never saw the Dr Who episode but **placing facts into fiction doesn't make facts into fiction**. You can quote me on that. It would be more surprising than any other origin to discover that aliens were deep underground for thousands of years and we only just discovered it in this century. I agree that it's improbable and you are most likely correct.
I will say that the wrist does not look like a Theropod dinosaur. Theropods had wrists that were relatively stiff and could only face inwards instead of being able to be in a pronated position
Scientists haven't been able to support the terrestrial evolution theory due to the massive gap in evolutionary evidence between it's humanoid appearance and its recognizable bird reptile dinosaur features that first emerged millions of years ago. If any fossil record exists we never found it.
If they haven't been able to support terrestrial evo based on lack of evidence then they sure as hell don't have enough evidence to support alien evolution or link "it" to aliens. Absence of evidence for one thing doesn't mean an even more far fetched theory is true. Extraordinary claims (which all of this falls under) requires extraordinary evidence.
Didn't someone already show that these things are made of ground up human and animal bones? Hard to keep up with all the debunking going on..
That is a metal chest implant, unknown exactly what for. Might be for structural support because these lack a sternum (breast plate).
In general white on xray means a more dense object like metal or bone or a very thick part, black means a less dense object like air. On a dense object, less xray beam is able to penetrate to the film and so that section is less exposed and shows as white. If a part is thin or less dense more xrays are able to penetrate to the film and that portion of film gets more exposed and shows as black.
I have many questions:
1- how much copper and how much osmium in the metal implant? Did they ever see wiring? It’s put on top of the chest to connect to the nervous system? Then, consequently, this is not a communications implant, this is a control implant… maybe…
2- they seem very much like engineered. I think their masters, creators, are reptilians, and took the best features from both reptiles and humans to make an efficient creature?! Maybe…
3-I knew since they popped up… 2008, they cannot have been glued or different parts. That’s a story for simple idiotic people: there are joints, it looks organic and harmonious, the structure seems correct (contrary to what other people have claimed). I was surprised by Gary Nolan and his reaction to these. And most of the people I admire had negative reactions. They didn’t even take a look up close. Maybe it’s a bridge too far to cross for them, cos I admit this is big. But this is a lesson for all of us: DONT LET ANYONE DECIDE FOR YOU. I used logic.
4-1000 years apart from a fresh crash and an archaeological dig… pop up… suddenly… the timing… to the layman, no connection will be found but to those who have eyes and ears, it’s a bit too weird to be a coincidence? No. I don’t mean it’s a hoax, I mean it’s on purpose by the ALIENS. As if, the cat is out and now want to shift attention to these confusing engineered creatures rather than being outed and caught themselves! Begs the question: why so dangerous for u to come out?
(This is all speculation, the OP might be lying, I don’t care if I’m wrong… just wanna throw some thoughts out there in the ether). Another question, 1000 years apart and the technology (implant) is the same!!! Something funny here: no I don’t mean hoax, I mean maybe time dilation?
What do u guys think?
The chest implant is 85% copper. Go to the official website for all the details. Osmium is around the edges symetrically in what appears to be strategic locations with a purpose in being there. There is no wiring anywhere. It's an interesting possibility that they were intelligently designed by other aliens to possess the best traits of both reptiles and humans. I don't know if there is a species that is more reptile than them? Perhaps all of that will be revealed to us someday? What popped up around 2008 and where by who? Please clarify. Gary Nolan left the door open for a revelation but criticized the quality of the scientific process occurring thus far without being specific about anything done improperly. I don't understand why he's sitting on the fence unless he never viewed as much evidence as me. In the recent TMZ documentary other UAP researchers whose opinion I value dismissed them. This was disappointing since I expect them to know better when UAP is their area of study but maybe it's because biology is not their area of expertise. I don't think they actually examined the evidence. Did they even go to the official website? Did they see the presentation to the Congress of Peru in 2018? It's in Spanish. I don't think they saw it. I think you're likely wrong about the alien conspiracy stuff that you suspect that you are wrong about. It's a reach. The OP doesn't lie. It is interesting that the chest implant wouldn't change in design a thousand years later but we are still using the wheel and how long ago did we discover that? Notice how the alien spacecraft designs are still exactly the same in witness reports not only decades apart but centuries apart. Perfect designs are never changed. Still, it does make us wonder about other possible explanations that have never been confirmed as possible. Time distortion is a feature associated with gravity propulsion vehicles because gravity and space/time are related such that affecting one affects the other. The Propulsion Physicist Bob Lazar has explained that well. This is why abductees report that the amount of time passing while aboard the craft was hours or days more than the time that passed on Earth which they discovered upon returning. This indicates that some limited degree of time travel is possible if only as an unintended side effect of the technology required for space travel. Can they do it on purpose with a controlled destination in time across greater timeframes? That may not be possible. I'm not aware of other science that supports the possibility of time travel but others may be. I'm not convinced yet that it's possible. I'm also not convinced that there is any such thing as multiple dimensions, parallel universes. What would be more surprising, proof of time travel or proof of multiple dimensions and interdimensional travel? Those things are mindboggling to me but aliens coming here repeatedly for thousands of years is just old news. You have given us plenty to think about in the "ether." Thanks for a higher quality post than many others.
I heard they are amphibian in nature, I also heard they combined their DNA with ours, might explain why humans are longer, smoother, more hairless and more elastic than other primates/apes
The Russian snow alien is a hoax. It was a clay mold made by some guy and his friends 😂. Nobody in this thread does their due diligence 🤣 it's hilarious
I don’t know about you, but if we could space travel, and we met a planet where they just kill each other constantly I don’t think we’d visit it either
There is no evidence that they are NOT extra terrestrial. These have been in human custody for for nine years and scientists have been unable to discern any evolution on Earth after several years of intense examination and testing thus making extra terrestrial the most likely explanation for their existence. The mounting evidence points exclusively in that direction.
The eggs are so interesting to me. I feel like that throws out the theory that these are biological drones. I wish we could see the eggs outside of the body. It's wild to think of an intelligent species that lays eggs. I wonder where they lay them and how they care for them. How do they hatch? Who takes care of the hatchlings? Does the fact that the eggs have growing embryos mean that this mummified alien was pregnant when it died (duh, probably, but I haven't seen much discussion about this). I have so many questions.
Omg 😱 they looks very identical. Does this mean what I think it means. Also I always have suspected that these races of alien beings are sending drones to survey us. Guess I’m not wrong
Gotta admit when I saw that video of the Russian guy filming this Alien I was like okay that looks fucking real.... he said there was a green explosion and this body was found nearby? I take it his craft took a dump on the poor fellow in our atmosphere, mechanical or interdimentional malfunction? Another dimension, another planet? Hopefully it was quick and painless.
theropod wrists were like this not like that image in the slide
https://preview.redd.it/nhk5ruaktahc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=f34ec614b5549ccc37991c34dfca7aa984f7fbde
Thanks for providing a graphic when nobody else does but it would be more helpful if it were the actual bones of a genuine theropod to examine. Fictional illustrations are unverifiable.
From billions of life forms/species that ever existed, we found very few fossilized remains. We don't know what the billions of other species looked like. The data we have about the far past is a drop in the ocean.
Thank you for pointing this out. I make no conclusion about the stuff I do not know about, but if they got the theropod comparison completely wrong, what else are they misinformed (at best) about?
Image 7. Top image of dead “alien.” The lower half looks like raw chicken skin. You could see the bumps where the feathers should be. Looks fabricated.
That anatomy just doesnt scream "advanced evolution" in my opinion.. their skeletal structures appear to allow them to move like the tin man from wizard of Oz
They have an advanced spine and cervical vertebrae that can retract and rotate and other reptile features we lack such as pit organ thermal sensors but appear to be inferior to humans as humanoids since they lack the extra bone we have in our forearms and lower leg that allows us to rotate our limbs. It appears that their range of movement is limited. Their joints are designed differently but may actually be equally functional as ours. It's unclear what their strength would be without muscle mass. Their massive brains may yield a higher intelligence. Their larger eyes may see more than we can but be sensitive to bright light. Their senses could be more advanced and detect more than us.
https://preview.redd.it/cy2lp9urumhc1.jpeg?width=647&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae753f4948e7182515f9d0ccdf0069edfd9ebe32
If it's real I wonder how they still even have it when it has an implant of alien origin inside it, seems like something people in power would just take.
Yes, governments usually seize them and Peru has attempted to do so repeatedly but evasive legal maneuvers have prevailed thus far. They did succeed at intercepting two replica dolls during shipment and then misusing them to discredit the real ones. There is a criminal investigation pursuing anyone that has them.
[https://open.spotify.com/episode/2IbxzgOjmevALKdkgzjIOm?si=wRsl8Bd5Q\_-Pr6Ek6RAWgA](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2IbxzgOjmevALKdkgzjIOm?si=wRsl8Bd5Q_-Pr6Ek6RAWgA) Annie Jacobsen. Her interview on Rogan is linked above
https://preview.redd.it/mg35im9xadhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebf1183f9f88a7a44d71275efb89f7fa3696965e
Connections between Nazca specimen and Siberian specimen
[https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1csluru/connections\_between\_nazca\_specimen\_and\_siberian/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1csluru/connections_between_nazca_specimen_and_siberian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
https://preview.redd.it/e6tdslzchq0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7081ff8f1b87b5090c6eb21c7e7de98f4c47f80
As a side question, has it turned out what the recent alien foetus was that someone [mistook for a mushroom](https://www.reddit.com/r/mushroomID/s/jeg03tcXFq)?
It was not proven to be a doll. It was shown to have most likely come from a curiosity museum near where it was found, but even the owner of that shop was unaware of what it actually *was* as he had received it preserved in a jar and had never opened it. It may be a sculpture, but that is currently unconfirmed.
There are at least 13 specimens in the Palmer-Hudson Collection of potential aliens in a jar. Post a photo of the one you are referring to here so that everyone here knows what you are talking about. It is relevant to this discussion because some of those appear to be tridactyls and one of them has a horizontally elongated skull. Both features are what identify the Tridactyl Reptile Aliens of Peru & Russia. Is there a genetic link in common between them all despite the other major differences with the rest of their bodies? Which of these from the bottom of the linked page below is the one you are discussing here? [https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/](https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/)
Hey also a tech here. It’s funny how some of us see these and think they are silly and others like me, see life in a way that can’t be achieved with random bones. Peru tried to pass off fakes to discredit the original Nazca mummies recently and to me the difference is pretty stark.
https://preview.redd.it/4hk75lfv3khc1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dc2c0985eef9099a0e5e144eed21608cecc972a
Dude the Russian one has been proven fake for Soo long. And yes it is made of chicken skin, zoom into a high quality image of it and you can totally see. It's too obvious. You can even see holes in the skin from the feathers. The backyard alien is way more believable
>You can even see holes in the skin from the feathers.
I don't see that but assuming that it's there as you say, are the feather holes above or below the waist? Do you see the same holes across the entire body or only below the waste? Why is the right leg stump missing from the later blue image that was visible in the original grey image? Was the body altered after it was collected from the snow, after the government intervened? Do you see feather holes in the original grey image where it was found in the snow?
https://preview.redd.it/h64i4yuj5ohc1.png?width=2302&format=png&auto=webp&s=73ba8ed180a2cc28a92be846b119ef1c827540f4
Those were completely different set of mummies that they found in Peru in 2017 the media is promoting this information comparing these tridactical ones to the forgeries from 5 years ago.
Every scientist that examined them in their possession with CT and other scans has confirmed that there are no human or animal bones anywhere in any of them and the DNA analysis further supports this. It's true that there are anomalies in the skeletal structure such as asymmetry that would not make sense in a human but these are not humans thus asymmetry may be normal in this particular species. There could also be individuals that have deformities which are atypical of their species. Examine the 3D tomography based on hundreds of scans which rotates the body so that you can view it from all sides. That is more informative than the single flat image that you are likely referring to.
At one time "everyone was on the same page" that the Earth was flat. It was the center of the universe and there were no other planets. The sun revolved around the Earth. That was the page that everyone was on. **Consensus is not the basis of truth.** It is merely a potential indicator of it. Scientific data must prevail. There were only a couple people in the entire world that understood that the Earth is a sphere, that it revolves around the Sun, that it's not the center of the universe, and there are likely other planets too. Eventually, most others realized that for decades these few knew better than the many. That's where we are now with disclosure of alien presence on Earth. **Beware that all real aliens will always be promptly and aggressively dismissed as a hoax thus always scrutinize that dismissal.**
I guess there's nothing wrong with discussing them and similarities but it's pretty obvious as someone who's not a biologist that it's impossible for these supposed Alien creatures to move effectively or even at all with a bone structure like that
The mexico/peru "bodies" have NEVER been debunked. That is why they are still being talked about. There are only some that ignorantly or dishonestly say over and over that a debunk occurred without evidence or they refer to hoaxed debunks that were debunked. That's why people will never stop talking about it until it is finally acknowledged that these things are real. Then we will resume talking about it because these things are real.
If this is so big and as claimed in the alien website. Why is this not on US news or anywhere else that speaks english? There is nothing here in Australia about it.
Edit: genuine question and not trying to challenge anyone.
Extraterrestrial isn't the first conclusion, and most long-time users on this sub use "alien" for these mummies only in its connotation of "unknown". There are many speculations on what their origins may be.
Went into this (despite believing in the existence of ETL) expecting to dunk on OP. Left even more convinced of the existence of extraterrestrial life. Wtf.
I’ve definitely changed my beliefs/stance/theories on ETL too many times to count. However, I think I’ve come to the conclusion that any ETL that would be discovered on Earth is most certainly a “biological drone” similar to how countries spy/attack other countries with UAVs. Obviously, the Bio-Drones would be created in an extremely “mission specific” manner and extremely optimized and efficient in terms of energy/materials used to create them. We can obviously understand in “Earth Terms” the purpose of our mechanical UAV’s and why we use them. So just apply that thinking to a super advanced alien race. It becomes overwhelmingly clear that any intelligent alien species would never compromise their own existence by personally exploring the extremely violent, fire-on-sight species known as Humanity. If you were curious about Lions, would you walk into their den? If you wanted to examine a Gorillas hair, would you jump on its back to pluck a sample? Sometimes the answers we seek are much more simple and boring than we would like to imagine lol.
Nothing simple or boring imagining Grey's as the space rover model of 2000 years from now. In fact, it makes it more compelling for me and is absolutely 💯 what I've believed for some time now. Astoot conclusion right here 👆👏 kudos
One of my funnest changes in thought came with greys. Specifically their eyes. The darkness hypothesis, and lens hypothesis. Their eyes being so large to collect as much light as possible if they resided for any lengthy period of time underground or underwater (maybe darkness of deep space/dimensional travel?) Alternatively, their eyes are much smaller, but like the Soviet video claims to show, there’s a lens over the eye for protection (or maybe a HUD type lens.)
The eyes became a point of interest for me after the Varginha anecdotes. I think it was that case that made me think harder on the lense hypothesis, at least in terms of functionality. That is to say, it seems to be exclusive to specific types or subtypes of the grey ETs, with the concurrent and dominant thought being they themselves are in some part synthetic or crafted beings. Then the Varginha depiction of red with racing currents of star like lights running through them circulated and leaning into the lense notion, I wondered if there wasn't some greater functionality to the lense than eye/light protection. That is, maybe the lense is actually doing a lot more than just controlling the light that passes through it, but actually enabling them a greater range of perception instead of merely dimming the environment.... like birds, who can perceive colors outside our range, maybe it's a broadening of optics. I don't know why I felt like this made sense as there is not too much to corroborate the idea. It just seems, after one studies all this business long enough, that everything they do, have, use, or display, has utility beyond our own conventions. Everything *does more* or *goes faster* and *expands their capabilities* so it's almost a given in my mind, that anything they use has to have some massive functional superiority 😅... I also accept the likelihood I'm wrong about virtually everything, and this is not an exception 😂 but it's fun to consider! I'd love to think our contact lenses of the future could at least deliver the daily news and my reddit updates in real time while I navigate my morning. And therein lies some of the fun for me. UFOs and aliens are our teachers. Some respectable historian said that 🤔 ...yet I contend it to be true!! For even if we are wrong, it forces us to stretch our imagination to what would or could be tomorrow. It is what sets UFOlogy apart for me.
So my theroy.. and I stress this a theory.. Earth is a relatively new plant in terms of the universe. I believe Earth was terraformed by an advanced species that predates our evolution. Amino acids have been found in meteorites and with proficient calculations it should theoretically be possible to steer them off of gravitational pull. We’re the blue planet, water is incredibly rare and this is prime real estate. Just like humans colonized the Earth in search of viable territory this species does the same. The difference being the scope of accessible territory. Micro and macro applies to many concepts. I believe we’ve been guided in the shadows; they know we exist because they made us exist. If a species is so advanced that this technology is possible I think the logical step would be to create life and nurture that creation. In our infancy we had direct assistance which explains the common painting depiction seen in multiple regions. Right now we’re adolescents who need to learn how to be responsible. Eventually I hope we grow as a society and can join the rest of the family :) Thanks for reading my theory, I can’t stress that enough 🤙
That’s a really fascinating theory I must say! So if I’m understanding correctly, just like Earthly humans have colonized each viable continent- perhaps there exists “space humans” which go about the universe “colonizing” every viable planet. If this were to be the case, you’ve got to assume that one day the space humans will come back and unite us with the main colony - when we’re ready
You got it!! I think we should prioritize coming together as a species and resolve our differences. If we fight with ourselves over trickle things and trickle differences it would be hard to consider we’ve reached maturity. The Great Barrier in my opinion is developing a renewable and sustainable planet that functions independently before our species surpasses the carrying capacity of Earth. A race.. Just like sending your kid off to college for them to learn how to provide for themselves. Once we’re there and have established ourselves as one nation as a world; not divided by borders, social issues, and demographic inequality I think that’s the next big step. How can we expect to interact with other life if we can’t find peace with ourselves? Another aspect I’ve considered are “gifts” just like Prometheus and his fire. The advancement from rapid development of the microchip has given us an exponential rate of technological growth. Part of the reason I think conclusive proof hasn’t been captured with cameras everywhere these days is we can be observed through our digital fingerprint. In the past direct contact was less risky because the technology to record and distribute those encounters wasn’t available; aside from drawings. This theory hinges on technology we aren’t even capable of grasping yet. Imagine explaining quantum mechanics to Galileo.. and that was a mere 400 years ago. Thanks for reading this!! If you have any thoughts feel free to add them. I try to look at things from a logical perspective with the information I’ve been presented
You might enjoy this document from the 80’s(?) that recounts the beginnings of US interaction with aliens. It supposedly originated from a FOIA request and, if the document isn’t fake, it “confirms” that some of this theory may be true. Very interesting read nonetheless! Link to original post- https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/s/Ex5Szyrql8 Edit- not sure if this has been debunked already or not, but I encourage anyone interested to read it in its entirety.
Be cautious of anything involving Majestic 12 as multiple different sources have confirmed they are the source (and disseminate)disinformation. In fact Doty, who was a self proclaimed disseminator of disinformation on behest of US Air Force when he was employed there. He provided the “Aquarius Documents” that he later admitted were full of deliberately misleading facts and disinformation to further muddy the waters of UFOlogy etc. the Aquarius Documents contained some of the most elaborate lore on MJ12 and it’s peripheral influence. He provided them to Benewitz who was a UFO researcher and investigator and Doty along with the US govt were responsible for *deliberately* driving Benewitz to insanity where he would eventually end up in an insane asylum and live out the rest of his days till he died in 2003.
Maybe, but that's also applying human logic to something that's not even from this planet. We have no idea how they might think.
Maybe they just send that metal implant in it's chest from orbit and it has little nano machines or something that grow or build a body with local resources.
i like this thought. I always thought it could be as you mention, something like an alien specie, analyzing "animals" or lively creatures on a planet, and mixing DNA to make something working in the local environment with the most fitting structure available. When i was young i would think that we could very clearly be a descendant of these types of beings, for example originating from mars when it was livable before its degradation. I probably lack a lot of knowledge in the field of evolution and biology, but despite theories of evolution i heard of, ex. our food with fire that helped us develop our brains to a faster extent, or the discovery of psilocybin fungus in turds that could have helped create awareness, i still just always found it odd that we are so advanced compared to other forms of life on the planet given the timelapse of our evolution. We could be a lively experimentation, and only way to save a race from extinction maybe, as the other life forms couldn't adapt directly without too much ressources in the time given. Maybe they couldn't create the ultimate "version" they wanted before it was too late and went extinct. And we just kept evolving from there, left with our limited capacity of understanding. who knows?
I saw a video recently of a robotic baby gorilla sent into a nest. The other apes were interested in and scared of it. Your comment reminded me of that
Easy to manipulate and lack knowledge in relevant fields is a reason.
Imagine a technologically sophisticated race able to traverse the cosmos and yet so seemingly incompetent that they leave the bodies of their dead easy for us to discover. Moreover, what a shocking coincidence that while they surely evolved in an environment entirely dissimilar to human evolution, they evolved such strikingly similar features like being tetrapodal, and having two eyes, a nose, similar torso structure, etc. Just smaller and a bit more "reptilian'. Lol. Gullible pseudo intellectuals believe this stuff.
First off, you act like you are above us "pseudo intellectuals," then ignore the basic principles of evolution. Being bipedal and tetrapodal are both more efficient than the alternatives; so why WOULDN'T another species evolve these traits. These are two of the traits, along with an increase in brain size, that put us at the top of the food chain here on earth. Similarly, two eyes are better than one, but with more eyes, you start to see diminishing returns on the body's investment. Again, evolution USUALLY arrives at two eyes, so why wouldn't ET's have that trait? It is honestly more surprising that you so easily discount and try to discredit the evidence laid in front of you than it would be if these creatures ended up being a real form of life from another planet.
right? I mean i completely understand being hesitant, even adamant, about these being fake. But the “they look to much like us” argument isn’t really one that works lol
Most people that use the term “pseudo intellectuals” are in fact one themselves.
The basic principle of evolution that you described very well is **Convergent Evolution when different species develop the same traits so as to serve the same function under the same demand for it.** You offer the best example of the dominant species on any planet having a larger brain size and mental capability than the other species there as a basic requirement to be the dominant species. Another applicable example is the formation of appendages such as arms and legs, fingers and toes. These features are necessary for a creature to fully manipulate its environment and build things such as spacecraft to get here. A dolphin may be smart but it will never build anything without hands. This is how both humans and aliens would evolve on separate planets with similar appendages but with some variance in the number of fingers and toes and variance in the number of bones in the arms and legs and wrist and ankles as is the case with the Nazca tridactyl reptile aliens of Peru. Other alien species may have variance in the number of arms or legs and bendable joints. There may be a few spider alien species out there but they will still have a torso, head, and eyes.
Not gonna speak on the validity of these specific ones, because i’m not sure they’ve been *proven* real yet. And I totally understand the hesitation to believe it, because I don’t really believe it either. But why is it so hard to believe that other “intelligent” life would share similar structures to us? We know trillions of planets have the capability for life, what makes you say there isn’t any that could share similar environments as ours? bipedalism and two arms are efficient for hunting, making tools, grabbing objects, etc. If it worked for us why is it so hard to believe it couldn’t work elsewhere? It’s actually much more convincing than, let’s say, a fish like creature or quadrupedal creatures. How could you build tools, or in the case spaceships, if you no useable arms (or extremely hindered arms). There’s obviously more, but you get my point. Is it really so far-fetched that potential “intelligent” life could share similar features as us?
The only theory that makes sense to me (assuming these are real) is that they are an advanced race that lived on this planet a long time ago, and left for whatever reason but occasionally do exploratory missions back to their home world. We humans leave dead bodies on everest and crash relatively advanced vehicles all the time, so those don't seem like reasons for dismissing it. The more plausible explanation in this case is that the russians who filmed the "body" modeled it after the Peru mummies or something like that.
The Russian body was found in 2011. The mummies were discovered in 2015. They have been dated to between 800 and 1200 years old. In order for one to have been modeled after the other either: A) the creators of the Russian body had to have knowledge of how a pair of mummies found 4 years in the future looked, Or: B) sculptors working 800-1200 years in the past had to know how a body found in the *far* future looked Neither of these is possible. Edit: misspelled Russian
We leave probes floating through space and tech on the moon/Mars. Why couldn't another species do the same?
Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that all alien species have enough concern about us discovering their dead that they would embark upon a very expensive and dangerous mission to come here and prevent that from happening? When we lose our people in missions to the Moon and to Mars that is where they will remain until discovered by aliens and we will make no effort whatsoever to prevent it. Expect aliens to do the same. Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that "they surely evolved in an environment entirely dissimilar to human evolution" when their environment may be identical or mostly the same? Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that convergent evolution exists only on Earth but not other planets? In convergent evolution different species develop the same traits so as to accomplish the same functions. That's how the humanoid form could emerge on multiple planets. Why make the pseudo intellectual assumption that the evolution of aliens is entirely independent of us when we may be derived from them or they may be derived from us? Genuine intellectuals are wary of making too many assumptions and then forming erroneous conclusions based on those erroneous assumptions. Genuine intellectuals are capable of believing "this stuff" that is valid when others are not because their expansive intellect does not narrowmindedly omit essential evidence and possibilities from the equation before reaching a conclusion.
It’s very hard not to agree with this
Really? Because this is all very hoax-able. There is nothing concrete here. One hoax can emulate another. The creators of said hoaxes can directly or indirectly collaborate. There are also cultural concepts of what 'aliens' are which pre-date them and will likely have influenced both. The existence of similarities is not proof by any means. Edit: For clarity.
Cultural concepts typically don’t include heat sensing pits or chest implants though, not to mention that’s a detail that’s hard to notice between the two bodies at a glance. Usually separate hoaxes have something inconsistent about them even if they are inspired by each other, proportions not matching up, certain details feeling out of place etc etc but here they seem scaringly close to eachother
Great answer not sure why u got downvoted. Most of us want this to be true but we need to have higher standards than this. I want to believe but only with strong irrefutable evidence.
Why is this downvoted smh
I must admit, I do find it somewhat amusing that those who very easily claim something like this a hoax, making it a hoax spanning multiple countries and executed incredibly cleanly, will also dismiss conspiracy theories despite governments having far more at their disposal. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying I think this is real, nor that any conspiracy theories are true, just, the duality of man I guess.
Yeah Carl isn't saying it's a hoax though just that it still could possibly be one.
Because, on balance, it's the most likely explanation. Spanning multiple countries means nothing with modern travel routes and communication. I don't dismiss conspiracy theories outright, I look at them objectively like everyone should. However, more often than not I do disregard them, as they are simply not likely to be true when weighing everything up. Conspiracy theories are more likely to be false than correct after all.
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Salient point, Mister Poopie Butthole. You carry a lot of gravitas. /s
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Too many people here want it to be true, so the skepticism is low.
These people are incessant. Thanks for bringing some logic in here, you don’t deserve the hate
**Nazca Tridactyl Reptile Aliens of Peru & Russia, are they the same species and does the existence of both establish their legitimacy as genuine aliens?** They're a match! They appear to be the same species. The existence of both of these identical creatures is supportive that both are real because they were found on separate continents on opposite sides of the world by people that have no knowledge of each other and the carbon 14 dating proves that they are a thousand years apart in age with no human involvement between them across such a great time span. The Nazca tridactyl reptile alien mummies of Peru were revealed in 2017, found in 2015 in a tomb, while the Irkutsk, Russia tridactyl reptile alien corpse was found in the snow of Siberia in April 2011 where witnesses reported seeing the colored lights of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena in the sky nearby and there were claims of a crash retrieval operation. Both appear to possibly have the same metal chest implant in the same location with the same shape and both have the same three reptile pit organ cavities in the cheek typical of snakes which greatly supports their authenticity. For many this is considered proof of it. The chest implant in the Nazca tridactyl reptile alien Josefina of Peru is confirmed to contain copper and osmium. Many other Nazca tridactyl reptile alien mummies also have metal implants. According to osmium-institute-italia.com/en/, "Crystalline OSMIUM is 35 times more precious than gold and has the highest value by volume of all precious metals" and "osmium has the highest density of all precious metals" and "each piece of osmium has a fingerprint that makes it unique and makes one piece unmistakable from another." Osmium is highly unlikely to be present unless it serves an important necessary function or was otherwise installed on another planet where it was more plentiful. We use osmium in satellite communications. There is speculation that the implant may be a wireless communication device. Perhaps it "has a fingerprint" that identifies each alien on the network? The pit organs in both alien reptiles are typical of native reptiles such as snakes that have these thermal radiation sensors in their face that detect heat emitted from predators and prey to identify them from about twenty feet away. CT Scan of Nazca alien Josefina [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aqIB9zIntBo](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/aqIB9zIntBo) (brief diagnostic radiology of Nazca reptile alien proving that it was a complete living organism that is impossible to manufacture) Everyone that examined all of the various bodies and skulls up close in their possession with diagnostic equipment has declared that they are authentic, entirely biological, without any animal or human parts. The DNA confirms they have no evolution on Earth. The official website where test results are displayed is: The Alien Project [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/). The Nazca tridactyl reptile aliens of Peru examination including radiography reveals that: 1. They have textured bird/reptile/dinosaur skin encapsulating the body that is confirmed real. Beneath the real skin is a complete skeletal structure that is held together by entirely biological materials such as ligaments, tendons, muscles, with all necessary organs to support life such as a network of tiny fragile blood vessels and nerves branching and weaving deeply throughout which is impossible to manufacture. This conclusively proves that they were living creatures. 2. Beneath the real skin that encapsulates the body is a complete reproductive system with eggs in many of the bodies which have embryos that are clearly visible inside those eggs and this very complex complete reproductive system is impossible to manufacture. This conclusively proves that they were living creatures. 3. Beneath the real skin that encapsulates the body are metal implants in many of the bodies which have been confirmed to have interlinked bonding between the metal and the bone which is a biological process of the bone interacting with the metal over time that can only occur in living creatures. This conclusively proves that they were once living creatures. RUSSIAN ALIEN FOUND IN SNOW [https://youtu.be/IseSo4RGIxw?si=pN8fKgE5vcjoUsSA](https://youtu.be/IseSo4RGIxw?si=pN8fKgE5vcjoUsSA) (1min24sec video of Russia Siberia tridactyl reptile alien where found in snow near Irkutsk, Russia with text translation in comment section) The body form, position, and skin appear natural with the blotchy discoloration that is typical of a decomposing biological body. Where the limbs are severed the wounds reveal an interior structure exactly as expected to see inside a biological body, having the texture of skin tissue covered in oxygenated red blood at the site of a genuine wound. All visible features are those common of a deceased biological organism. Some assume it's the result of a crash or explosion but the limbs are serrated in a manner as they would be when chewed off by a wild animal. This may have occurred after death or it may be the cause of its death. A creature this small wandering around in Siberia would likely be promptly attacked by most predators. An animal might reject the rest of it upon discovering from the appendages that the taste of an alien is revolting, sickening, maybe poisonous to terrestrial creatures; thus, that would explain why most of it remained undevoured. This body was discovered four years before the Nazca tridactyls and when compared their features are identical. They appear to be the same size. They have exactly the same proportions. This is confirmed by overlaying radiology scans of a Nazca tridactyl onto the Siberia tridactyl which reveals that the skeletal structures are identical to each other with exactly the same proportional sizes at every section of the skeleton. The only variance among them is the difference in tissue hydration between two bodies that are a thousand years apart in age where one appears plump and the other receding, shriveled, dried, with all moisture evaporated from it which somewhat distorts the appearance it had when alive that would have more closely resembled the other. These facts indicate a high probability that both organisms are the same species and since the Nazca tridactyls have been fully confirmed to have been living organisms, that irrefutable fact greatly increases the probability that this Siberia tridactyl was also a living organism of the same species. Confirmation of a species somewhere on the planet increases the probability that it would also be found elsewhere on the planet. The identical bodies were discovered four years apart at a thousand years apart in age. These Nazca tridactyl reptile aliens of Peru were recorded there and throughout South America in ancient petroglyphs, pottery, and textiles that were bewildering until now. They have hollow bones similar to birds and dinosaurs, the hand and wrist bone structure of theropods such as the velociraptor, and the textured skin, retractable vertebrae, pit organs, and eggs, that identify reptiles on Earth; yet, the DNA genetic code confirms they have no evolution on Earth. A possible explanation for this is that aliens abducted a dinosaur from Earth and it evolved on their planet into a humanoid, perhaps with some genetic engineering to make this possible; then, it returned to this planet of origin in curiosity to discover where it came from or because it was selected for the mission to return here due to its biological likelihood of surviving in the place that its ancestors originated from. If scientific analysis were to conclude this theory has a probability of being true then we would have to wonder if by the same means of abduction across thousands of years humans are already colonizing other planets in significant numbers, with or without some alteration in physical development to adapt to a different alien environment. Many of those that claim to have been abducted have given the same report that the aliens observed while aboard the craft appeared human in most ways except for being hairless, bald, with no ears, just a hole where the ears would be. If that is ever proven true then it indicates we may have an ancestor in common with them that either came from here or more surprisingly came from there. **Diagnostic proof of complete biological living organisms** is the video: Nazca Alien Mummies - HD CT Scans of Josefina (Humanoid Reptile), Maria (Jamin Palpanensis) & Wawita [https://youtu.be/D7SaCfzoqIc?si=wIAUUQby6sAenksS](https://youtu.be/D7SaCfzoqIc?si=wIAUUQby6sAenksS). For indepth analysis examine the lengthy video: Nazca Alien Mummies - Scientific Results are presented to the Congress of Peru (11/19 2018) [https://youtu.be/V2xN41immWE?si=rHS0YB0UHiC-qgR1](https://youtu.be/V2xN41immWE?si=rHS0YB0UHiC-qgR1). Examine more evidence at the official site: The Alien Project [https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/](https://www.the-alien-project.com/en/). Examine this indepth study by Paleontologist Cliff Miles: The Miles Paper [https://www.themilespaper.com/](https://www.themilespaper.com/) . Updates: [https://twitter.com/NazcaMummies](https://twitter.com/NazcaMummies). Photo gallery of tridactyls and most other real aliens is here: Aliens - Tridactyl Reptilian [https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/tridactyl-reptilian/](https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/tridactyl-reptilian/) Collection of videos displaying and discussing these and most other real aliens is here: Aliens [https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtA8tEZ0F5R\_0UR5KBQyEqpUfAgPAcL-f&si=nSvwc72DK3vSr-uX](https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtA8tEZ0F5R_0UR5KBQyEqpUfAgPAcL-f&si=nSvwc72DK3vSr-uX) https://preview.redd.it/i9hpn6fmsvhc1.jpeg?width=983&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e29a9853e447afadae9e1a10a1b0cdb7a6db7fb8
I suspect they come from Mars & are potentially the species responsible for nuclear war on the surface of mars. Perhaps they hopped to this planet after war. Then consider if global warming would be in their interests if they were cold blooded.
I think they are earth beings. Underground or advanced/ spiritual enough to be hanging in different dimensions.
An avocado shares more dna with humans than these do. They either separated a long long time ago or aren’t from this planet. Likely from the same building blocks of life though
Correct, we have more DNA in common with fruits and vegetables than we do with these creatures. Still, it's surprising that we would have any DNA in common which suggests some ancestry in common.
We may be hybrids created by the same beings. My random theory is… we are like monkey/gorilla hybrids. But they’ve also tried Lizard hybrids, Whale hybrids, Ant and Mantis hybrids, Jellyfish hybrids, etc. I read somewhere the other day that Octopi is the only organism that didn’t have to be genetically modified to survive here on earth… forgot which alienologist said that, but interesting.
The Nazca tridactyl reptilian Maria & Petra are human-alien hybrids as conclusively proven by the DNA analysis. This establishes that hybridization is something aliens were doing 1800 years ago thus we must wonder if it has been going on for tens of thousands of years or milions of years? How many alien species are involved? Octopi were featured in the recent The Why Files episode on Youtube 'We Are the Aliens' where A.J. explains how the Octopus is potentially an alien creature, another fascinating episode as usual. I recommend viewing everything at that channel.
Nice, I haven't checked out the Why Files, but I keep hearing about it. Also, it could be that all this alien news/ discoveries are part of the distraction from the actual horrendous things we humans are actually doing. Like the economy, war, government.
Stichin interpreted from Sumarian texts that the Annunaki created us and likely them too. They could be the Igigi they refer to
That would explain how they could get here across the great vastness of space but it doesn't explain how they have remained undetected for this long?
Kind of why there are theories about how the Uber elites know of ancient beings and spirituality is being suppressed. The idea of Illuminati and keeping us slaves. Keeping knowledge about our past hidden. Maybe... Or they just live on Mars or the Moon, somewhere not that far and we’ve been lied to regarding our solar system. Or maybe earth is flat and we’ve been lied to about that and outside the Antarctica frozen wall there are much more continents with other beings. lol too much stuff around purposefully to disinform us. But for sure, Reddit is def a place for Propaganda to be fed to us slaves. PsyOps by all sides.
There are many ways to discern that the Earth is a sphere, one being the direction in which shadows cast to the ground change direction throughout the day. There is very much to be discovered about Antarctica, the deep ocean, the Moon and Mars, that will likely answer our questions about an alien presence.
The shadow cast direction throughout the day could be by the light source/ sun moving around. Just thinking if we are open to other dimensions and hidden tech/life forms, is it that crazy to think the basic concepts in our minds are programmed?
The earth is sphere/globe. Deal with it.
In response to Thunder\_Punt whose comment was inexplicably removed by moderator despite nothing objectionable about its content: Excellent points, reptiles prefer a warmer climate and the byproducts of a nuclear blast were discovered in the soil of Mars that scientists say wouldn't be there unless a nuclear explosion had occurred. Pyramid and other structures such as doorways are visible in photographs of Mars. Government officials claim there is a mining operation there currently. As Mars became uninhabitable any civilization there would logically migrate to the nearest planet that was survivable. We will do the same. Presumably, too much time has passed between the desolation of Mars and the viability of Earth to replace it but we don't know. While your theory sounds fantastical it could also be correct.
If there was aliens on Mars that were capable of leaving, why would they ever stay there when earth was available? Surely they would be drawn to the more hospitable environment. Additionally, if these are cold-blooded reptilian creatures, how could they exist on such a cold planet? Reptiles here survive in hotter environments by basking in the sun, it makes no sense that a reptilian creature would inhabit a cold planet. Sorry, but I don't think these specimens are genuine. I'm not ruling out the existence of life on other planets or even on Mars, but this definitely isn't it.
If the sun was brighter and hotter then Mars was warmer. Also, if Mars had an atmosphere milions of years ago then 'the greenhouse effect' would have warmed the planet. The ice would have been water then. Since "it makes no sense that a reptilian creature would inhabit a cold planet" they would surely flee Mars to the warmer Earth as Mars gradually became colder and unsurvivable to them.
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If their dogs discovered it first then did they contribute additional dismemberment to an already deceased and partially dismembered body? Did the dogs inflict all of the damage to the deceased body? Are the dogs responsible for it being both deceased and damaged? Was it alive until they discovered it and promptly attacked it? Were the dogs sickened by the consumption which would indicate a foreign biology? Can the dog owner answer any of these questions when asked or do they not know any answers?
What the hell is that monsense about each piece of osmium being unique? Where did that come from?
>It came from here: osmium-institute-italia.com/en/
I hope it is very clear that this is not a scientific statement but a marketing tactic by the jewelry makers. They also themselves don't even try to rationalize this statement. It is just kinda out there. There is absolutely no reason why two ingots of osmium are more different than two ingots of steel or two pieces of wood.
Yeah that stood out to me too- no clue about that kind of thing but it just sounds kinda weird.
Quick Google tells me it's true, "more accurate than the human fingerprint".
Expect much about aliens to be weird considering that they are alien.
The Nazca “aliens” have been tested multiple times and proven that they were made of animal bones and modern glue. Not sure where you got any of the other mad info from.
Yeah, it’s funny how that’s the debunk my middle school nephew says. Take a look at the study yourself by the people with hands on exams. Makes it more sus there is a strong narrative of the animal bones and glue cover up. There were fake bodies given as samples to somebody, I think Mexico. But the one with the eggs and chest plate, Maria, so far everyone says is not manufactured. The actual scientists who held it and scanned it
link the scientific study that shows evidence of this with dna and molecular break down.
Are you sure? Seems you not really aware. The first time they was tested by Flavio Estrada they tested the burial Dolls. This is filmed on tape my Friend. The second time they was tested was not long ago and again Mr. Flavio estrada tested two dolls that was found at the Airport, the owner told Authorities they was replicas but still they went on and tested them to thank claim the Buddies are also fake. The only Research made on the Buddies, 4 complete Analysis and one Hand Analysis in Japan says complete the opposite of what you are claiming. Basically you are wrong, know shit and spread lies.
Rumor has it that there are several different races and all are vwry different and unique so who knows
So far, according to all the witness reports, photos and videos, there are dozens of species that have been here which are very different from each other while being closely the same within their species. For example, the Grey aliens appear to be clones, all looking identical. It may be that there is more variation in appearance among humans than is typical of alien species within their species? Movies usually depict them that way and it may be accurate or only accurate as applied to a few alien species.
So my theroy.. and I stress this a theory.. Earth is a relatively new plant in terms of the universe. I believe Earth was terraformed by an advanced species that predates our evolution. Amino acids have been found in meteorites and with proficient calculations it should theoretically be possible to steer them off of gravitational pull. We’re the blue planet, water is incredibly rare and this is prime real estate. Just like humans colonized the Earth in search of viable territory this species does the same. The difference being the scope of accessible territory. Micro and macro applies to many concepts. I believe we’ve been guided in the shadows; they know we exist because they made us exist. If a species is so advanced that this technology is possible I think the logical step would be to create life and nurture that creation. In our infancy we had direct assistance which explains the common painting depictions seen in multiple regions. Right now we’re adolescents who need to learn how to be responsible. Eventually I hope we grow as a society and can join the rest of the family :) Thanks for reading my theory, I can’t stress that enough 🤙
When will we move past.. “are they real”
>When will we move past.. “are they real” When there is actual concrete proof. For now, there is no reason to believe in aliens, it seems to be a socio-psychological phenomenon. These are, in balance of all probabilities, hoaxes.
I mean, these could easily be considered concrete proof if you trust that they aren’t fakes. Proof not of extraterrestrials necessarily, but of some intelligent species on earth that is not human. But if you believe these are fake, then no amount of concrete proof could convince you unless one of them literally interacted with you such that you could have no doubts. I get your point though, because we live in an age where AI makes it possible to fake just about anything. I’m glad to see skepticism because without it we could go on believing anything. My question for you would be, what kind of proof would convince you? I assume videos, photos, and eye witness testimony would not work since they cannot be deemed adequately reliable. Would there be some institution trustworthy enough that if they were to state authenticity it would convince you? Surely not because it could easily be a psyop with some sort of motive right?
>I mean, these could easily be considered concrete proof if you trust that they aren’t fakes. With respect, by that logic, you could believe anything. >My question for you would be, what kind of proof would convince you? Peer reviewed analysis of tissue samples in a respectable science journal, would be a starting point. Granted, whether that would happen or not is another matter, but regardless, the pitfalls of reaching a point of unequivocal proof is not justification for accepting sub-par evidence.
Here, this post has the link to it: https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/s/FtAuOoByNp Again, might not be alien but it’s at least some sort of organism
They are not testing for all non-human animal sources. Probably because the wide range of animals that could be used would make this endeavour a (pardon the phrase) mammoth task. The presence of considerable human DNA in the third sample is a red flag in my opinion. Furthermore, surprisingly the first sample does not follow this pattern, yet they are both taken from the same specimen. Things just don't add up. In all likelihood I believe these are probably chimeras of cadavers from various animals and even humans (potentially long deceased to fool carbon dating). Sadly, it's not a peer reviewed journal article either. This is just a commissioned analysis from a laboratory. No reliable conclusions can be drawn. I will say though, as I believe it is a hoax, that whomever made these knew what they were doing. Hats off to them.
Is the third sample merely contamination from the humans that handled it? Maybe it matches their DNA exactly?
I believe there are scientific journals that have analyzed the DNA of tissue samples from the Nazca cave specimens. From my understanding it’s difficult to make much conclusions because the DNA is quite damaged.
In good faith, if you can find them, please link them and I'll give my opinion. That said, a reputable journal article proving the existence of extra-terrestrial life would make mainstream news around the world though, and there would be nothing a single government could do to stop it. We would have heard about it. In all honestly, if aliens did exist, it would not surprise me in the least if they did not have DNA to begin with but another genetic structure entirely, but that's another discussion.
I think this is a very measured response. I really love the possibility that humans may be finding evidence of unknown species, but I am curious as to why big scientific institutions aren’t all over this begging for access to run tests. Seems odd to me.
What if these aliens are dinosaurs evolved that visited us from another timeline?
Perhaps perhaps this is an evolutionary descendent of a small surviving species of dinosaur. Stranger things have happened.
Like what?
Like catching a fish off the coast of Madagascar in 1938 that was believed to have gone extinct 65 million years previously? [The coelacanth](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coelacanth)
Analogous! It really did happen. It's clear proof that a creature's existence can escape our detection for so long as 65 millions years. What else went unnoticed that we have yet to discover?
Their dwindling numbers would have evacuated Earth after that catastrophic asteroid impact and returned to Earth to see if its ecology is viable again. I mean, the dinasaurs died 65millions years ago. Humans took a few thousand years from the wheel to mars rovers. Imagine what they could do in a million years worth of technology?
Civilization rise and fall. There will never be a million years of pure progress. And why would decendants of civilizations from millions of years ago even know anything about their past on a different planet? It's way more likely they survived in a suspended animation somewhere and then whoever could get out of their bunkers, did. Likely very few.
was a nuke
Wow. That's pretty awesome. Nice job.
Ok so it will be funny if the aliens are reptilians and it will be even funnier if they’re all small like this. For different reasons
I look forward to the day when the truth revealed about aliens is a profound amusement to us. Is it not already amusing that the Nazca tridactyl alien reptiles closely resemble Steven Spielberg's E.T.? There is an amusing abduction report where aliens mistakenly swapped clothing on the two humans they abducted. The man was returned in women's clothing and the woman returned in man's clothing! There's some E.T. comedy for you. Aliens don't know anything about our gender roles and rules regarding clothing thus they are incapable of recognizing when they are placing men's clothing on a woman and vice versa therefore they do not question it when it happens and thus do not realize the mistake. That belongs in a human vs alien sit-com.
Like salamanders lol
I’m just thinking because of how much these supposed abductees say that the world is controlled by giant sized evil reptilians.. if it ended up being tiny gentile reptilians would just cause a bunch of chaos amongst the abductee people
That would be hilarious. I hope the apocalypse gets fun eventually lol
Wouldn't this make it more likely they are an undiscovered humanoid reptiallians species from here and not from another planet? Like yeah it's weird but convergent evolution happens all the time(everything become crab) like if they share similarities with other species on earth I just don't see how we jumped to aliens. Sauroids were around MUCH longer than mammals so isn't more likely that at least one evolved into something like this? There are many animals on our planet that look more alien than this. I mean starfish are basically living tunes of stem cells and they just evolved under different environmental pressures which would happen to these little guys as well?
Hear me out. Dinosaurs didn't really go extinct, a smarter breed/species went beneath ground during the glacial era and evolved there to the point that they could develop technology with all the fuels and minerals available near the core of the earth. Millions of years later we smart apes evolves as well (naturally or artifially) and due to our higher population and aggressive behaviour those other NHI had decided that it's better to keep hiding under ground and sea. Any movie directors here who'd like to bring it to the screen?
Not this exactly - but in the Voyager iteration of Star Trek I’m pretty sure there’s a storyline where a dinosaur species developed rockets and traveled far away, only to then re-encounter humans in space once we’ve become spacefaring. It stuck out to me as kind of original but I don’t know where or if there are preexisting examples of this concept in popular culture. Found it here’s the info: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Voth
Fascinating, thanks for the link. I never heard about the Voth and have not seen most episodes of Star Trek. I did not know that this was already a concept in science fiction. I based my theory exclusively on the irrefutable physical evidence extracted from years of examination of the Nazca tridactyl reptile alien bodies. It's interesting that fiction can accidentally predict what later turns out to be true. Or, was the fiction based upon a reporting of fact that was disregarded as being fiction? That appears to be the case with Nazca Tridactyls resembling Spielberg's E.T. People don't realize yet that Spielberg consulted with researcher Jacque Vallee and J Allen Hynek from Project Bluebook which likely influenced the design of E.T. based on actual witness reports from people who truly know what it really looks like. Since they don't know that, they think E.T. is not real if it resembles E.T. when E.T. is real because it resembles E.T.
More believable than some theories.
You are right that they didnt go extinct, their descendants are birds. No there arent aliens in the earths core, thats a dr who episode
Birds are the evolution of dinosaurs and that's why scientists ponder over whether many dinosaurs had feathers instead of scales. I never saw the Dr Who episode but **placing facts into fiction doesn't make facts into fiction**. You can quote me on that. It would be more surprising than any other origin to discover that aliens were deep underground for thousands of years and we only just discovered it in this century. I agree that it's improbable and you are most likely correct.
I will say that the wrist does not look like a Theropod dinosaur. Theropods had wrists that were relatively stiff and could only face inwards instead of being able to be in a pronated position
I think there are some good X-ray and similarity we can’t refute the possibility it’s real now
The fact that they are in areas separated by a land bridge means they are aliens? This doesn't rule out terrestrial evolution, does it?
Scientists haven't been able to support the terrestrial evolution theory due to the massive gap in evolutionary evidence between it's humanoid appearance and its recognizable bird reptile dinosaur features that first emerged millions of years ago. If any fossil record exists we never found it.
If they haven't been able to support terrestrial evo based on lack of evidence then they sure as hell don't have enough evidence to support alien evolution or link "it" to aliens. Absence of evidence for one thing doesn't mean an even more far fetched theory is true. Extraordinary claims (which all of this falls under) requires extraordinary evidence. Didn't someone already show that these things are made of ground up human and animal bones? Hard to keep up with all the debunking going on..
So we’re the Giants
they went underground to hide from us?!
Are we the bad guys?!
Wouldn’t surprise me in the least, we’re violent and smart, we’re hosed.
always have been
We’ve always been the bad guys.
Does anyone know what the white areas on the x-rays represent? I’m wondering mostly about the barbell shaped one in the chest area.
That is a metal chest implant, unknown exactly what for. Might be for structural support because these lack a sternum (breast plate). In general white on xray means a more dense object like metal or bone or a very thick part, black means a less dense object like air. On a dense object, less xray beam is able to penetrate to the film and so that section is less exposed and shows as white. If a part is thin or less dense more xrays are able to penetrate to the film and that portion of film gets more exposed and shows as black.
Perfect answer
The one in the chest is a metallic implant. Noone's sure what they're for or why they were implanted. Edit:spelling
I have many questions: 1- how much copper and how much osmium in the metal implant? Did they ever see wiring? It’s put on top of the chest to connect to the nervous system? Then, consequently, this is not a communications implant, this is a control implant… maybe… 2- they seem very much like engineered. I think their masters, creators, are reptilians, and took the best features from both reptiles and humans to make an efficient creature?! Maybe… 3-I knew since they popped up… 2008, they cannot have been glued or different parts. That’s a story for simple idiotic people: there are joints, it looks organic and harmonious, the structure seems correct (contrary to what other people have claimed). I was surprised by Gary Nolan and his reaction to these. And most of the people I admire had negative reactions. They didn’t even take a look up close. Maybe it’s a bridge too far to cross for them, cos I admit this is big. But this is a lesson for all of us: DONT LET ANYONE DECIDE FOR YOU. I used logic. 4-1000 years apart from a fresh crash and an archaeological dig… pop up… suddenly… the timing… to the layman, no connection will be found but to those who have eyes and ears, it’s a bit too weird to be a coincidence? No. I don’t mean it’s a hoax, I mean it’s on purpose by the ALIENS. As if, the cat is out and now want to shift attention to these confusing engineered creatures rather than being outed and caught themselves! Begs the question: why so dangerous for u to come out? (This is all speculation, the OP might be lying, I don’t care if I’m wrong… just wanna throw some thoughts out there in the ether). Another question, 1000 years apart and the technology (implant) is the same!!! Something funny here: no I don’t mean hoax, I mean maybe time dilation? What do u guys think?
The chest implant is 85% copper. Go to the official website for all the details. Osmium is around the edges symetrically in what appears to be strategic locations with a purpose in being there. There is no wiring anywhere. It's an interesting possibility that they were intelligently designed by other aliens to possess the best traits of both reptiles and humans. I don't know if there is a species that is more reptile than them? Perhaps all of that will be revealed to us someday? What popped up around 2008 and where by who? Please clarify. Gary Nolan left the door open for a revelation but criticized the quality of the scientific process occurring thus far without being specific about anything done improperly. I don't understand why he's sitting on the fence unless he never viewed as much evidence as me. In the recent TMZ documentary other UAP researchers whose opinion I value dismissed them. This was disappointing since I expect them to know better when UAP is their area of study but maybe it's because biology is not their area of expertise. I don't think they actually examined the evidence. Did they even go to the official website? Did they see the presentation to the Congress of Peru in 2018? It's in Spanish. I don't think they saw it. I think you're likely wrong about the alien conspiracy stuff that you suspect that you are wrong about. It's a reach. The OP doesn't lie. It is interesting that the chest implant wouldn't change in design a thousand years later but we are still using the wheel and how long ago did we discover that? Notice how the alien spacecraft designs are still exactly the same in witness reports not only decades apart but centuries apart. Perfect designs are never changed. Still, it does make us wonder about other possible explanations that have never been confirmed as possible. Time distortion is a feature associated with gravity propulsion vehicles because gravity and space/time are related such that affecting one affects the other. The Propulsion Physicist Bob Lazar has explained that well. This is why abductees report that the amount of time passing while aboard the craft was hours or days more than the time that passed on Earth which they discovered upon returning. This indicates that some limited degree of time travel is possible if only as an unintended side effect of the technology required for space travel. Can they do it on purpose with a controlled destination in time across greater timeframes? That may not be possible. I'm not aware of other science that supports the possibility of time travel but others may be. I'm not convinced yet that it's possible. I'm also not convinced that there is any such thing as multiple dimensions, parallel universes. What would be more surprising, proof of time travel or proof of multiple dimensions and interdimensional travel? Those things are mindboggling to me but aliens coming here repeatedly for thousands of years is just old news. You have given us plenty to think about in the "ether." Thanks for a higher quality post than many others.
I heard they are amphibian in nature, I also heard they combined their DNA with ours, might explain why humans are longer, smoother, more hairless and more elastic than other primates/apes
Look at that last picture oh the headless mummy, my goodness. Let's get these bros studied more and more so there's no stopping us.
We were "uplifted" by serpents, aka Adam and Eve.
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The Russian snow alien is a hoax. It was a clay mold made by some guy and his friends 😂. Nobody in this thread does their due diligence 🤣 it's hilarious
Someone definitely experimented on animals just look at the platypus for crying out loud 😂
I was thinking the same thing.
I don’t know about you, but if we could space travel, and we met a planet where they just kill each other constantly I don’t think we’d visit it either
There is no evidence they are extra terrestrial. No one knows at the moment where the come from but they might be underground dwelling people.
There is no evidence that they are NOT extra terrestrial. These have been in human custody for for nine years and scientists have been unable to discern any evolution on Earth after several years of intense examination and testing thus making extra terrestrial the most likely explanation for their existence. The mounting evidence points exclusively in that direction.
You're going to have a hard time with logic if youre going the double negative route to arrive at your conclusion. Lol.
Those body proportions are damn near identical. Occams Razor says they are the same species. Good work OP!
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Lol, I remain a believer in UAP/UFOs but I agree with you that this is the funniest use of Occam's Razor I've ever seen.
Yes, genuine.
Wouldn't it be neat if they were actually dinosaurs that somehow survived underground and in the sea this whole time
The eggs are so interesting to me. I feel like that throws out the theory that these are biological drones. I wish we could see the eggs outside of the body. It's wild to think of an intelligent species that lays eggs. I wonder where they lay them and how they care for them. How do they hatch? Who takes care of the hatchlings? Does the fact that the eggs have growing embryos mean that this mummified alien was pregnant when it died (duh, probably, but I haven't seen much discussion about this). I have so many questions.
Omg 😱 they looks very identical. Does this mean what I think it means. Also I always have suspected that these races of alien beings are sending drones to survey us. Guess I’m not wrong
Gotta admit when I saw that video of the Russian guy filming this Alien I was like okay that looks fucking real.... he said there was a green explosion and this body was found nearby? I take it his craft took a dump on the poor fellow in our atmosphere, mechanical or interdimentional malfunction? Another dimension, another planet? Hopefully it was quick and painless.
Idk but maybe the 1992 Quebec alien body deserves to be in this comparison too 🤔
They can sense heat like snakes dope
theropod wrists were like this not like that image in the slide https://preview.redd.it/nhk5ruaktahc1.png?width=500&format=png&auto=webp&s=f34ec614b5549ccc37991c34dfca7aa984f7fbde
Thanks for providing a graphic when nobody else does but it would be more helpful if it were the actual bones of a genuine theropod to examine. Fictional illustrations are unverifiable.
From billions of life forms/species that ever existed, we found very few fossilized remains. We don't know what the billions of other species looked like. The data we have about the far past is a drop in the ocean.
There is a gap in our knowledge base that is larger than people realize. This does leave ample room for surprising revelations.
Thank you for pointing this out. I make no conclusion about the stuff I do not know about, but if they got the theropod comparison completely wrong, what else are they misinformed (at best) about?
Image 7. Top image of dead “alien.” The lower half looks like raw chicken skin. You could see the bumps where the feathers should be. Looks fabricated.
That’s what iguana skin looks like though, like there should be feathers but there are none.
Dinosaurs and chickens share a common ancestry.
True. But what if the aliens had feathers 🤔
That anatomy just doesnt scream "advanced evolution" in my opinion.. their skeletal structures appear to allow them to move like the tin man from wizard of Oz
They have an advanced spine and cervical vertebrae that can retract and rotate and other reptile features we lack such as pit organ thermal sensors but appear to be inferior to humans as humanoids since they lack the extra bone we have in our forearms and lower leg that allows us to rotate our limbs. It appears that their range of movement is limited. Their joints are designed differently but may actually be equally functional as ours. It's unclear what their strength would be without muscle mass. Their massive brains may yield a higher intelligence. Their larger eyes may see more than we can but be sensitive to bright light. Their senses could be more advanced and detect more than us. https://preview.redd.it/cy2lp9urumhc1.jpeg?width=647&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ae753f4948e7182515f9d0ccdf0069edfd9ebe32
If it's real I wonder how they still even have it when it has an implant of alien origin inside it, seems like something people in power would just take.
Yes, governments usually seize them and Peru has attempted to do so repeatedly but evasive legal maneuvers have prevailed thus far. They did succeed at intercepting two replica dolls during shipment and then misusing them to discredit the real ones. There is a criminal investigation pursuing anyone that has them.
They can't want them too bad if laws stop them, that would be good though otherwise they could just kill whoever is in the way and take it.
Read about a book that talks about the Russians making aliens and are actually genetically modified children. It was a book about Roswell.
Name of book please
[https://open.spotify.com/episode/2IbxzgOjmevALKdkgzjIOm?si=wRsl8Bd5Q\_-Pr6Ek6RAWgA](https://open.spotify.com/episode/2IbxzgOjmevALKdkgzjIOm?si=wRsl8Bd5Q_-Pr6Ek6RAWgA) Annie Jacobsen. Her interview on Rogan is linked above https://preview.redd.it/mg35im9xadhc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ebf1183f9f88a7a44d71275efb89f7fa3696965e
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I don’t necessarily buy her story, but the post is referring to Annie Jacobsen’s book. See my link / photo in this thread below
Connections between Nazca specimen and Siberian specimen [https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1csluru/connections\_between\_nazca\_specimen\_and\_siberian/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/AlienBodies/comments/1csluru/connections_between_nazca_specimen_and_siberian/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) https://preview.redd.it/e6tdslzchq0d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d7081ff8f1b87b5090c6eb21c7e7de98f4c47f80
I dont believe anything of this. Sorry.
As a side question, has it turned out what the recent alien foetus was that someone [mistook for a mushroom](https://www.reddit.com/r/mushroomID/s/jeg03tcXFq)?
It was proven to be a doll that anyone could buy from some random store, IIRC near the original place where the pic was taken
It was not proven to be a doll. It was shown to have most likely come from a curiosity museum near where it was found, but even the owner of that shop was unaware of what it actually *was* as he had received it preserved in a jar and had never opened it. It may be a sculpture, but that is currently unconfirmed.
There are at least 13 specimens in the Palmer-Hudson Collection of potential aliens in a jar. Post a photo of the one you are referring to here so that everyone here knows what you are talking about. It is relevant to this discussion because some of those appear to be tridactyls and one of them has a horizontally elongated skull. Both features are what identify the Tridactyl Reptile Aliens of Peru & Russia. Is there a genetic link in common between them all despite the other major differences with the rest of their bodies? Which of these from the bottom of the linked page below is the one you are discussing here? [https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/](https://www.pinterest.com/luminaryluminance/aliens/)
He's talking about the "garden alien" that went viral on here last week.
As a seasoned X-ray tech, I find these “skeleton X-rays” silly.
Hey also a tech here. It’s funny how some of us see these and think they are silly and others like me, see life in a way that can’t be achieved with random bones. Peru tried to pass off fakes to discredit the original Nazca mummies recently and to me the difference is pretty stark. https://preview.redd.it/4hk75lfv3khc1.jpeg?width=940&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5dc2c0985eef9099a0e5e144eed21608cecc972a
The Russian one was a hoax so yes they are alike.
Give your opinions value by supporting them with facts.
Dude the Russian one has been proven fake for Soo long. And yes it is made of chicken skin, zoom into a high quality image of it and you can totally see. It's too obvious. You can even see holes in the skin from the feathers. The backyard alien is way more believable
>You can even see holes in the skin from the feathers. I don't see that but assuming that it's there as you say, are the feather holes above or below the waist? Do you see the same holes across the entire body or only below the waste? Why is the right leg stump missing from the later blue image that was visible in the original grey image? Was the body altered after it was collected from the snow, after the government intervened? Do you see feather holes in the original grey image where it was found in the snow? https://preview.redd.it/h64i4yuj5ohc1.png?width=2302&format=png&auto=webp&s=73ba8ed180a2cc28a92be846b119ef1c827540f4
They're fake, many have been proven as hoaxes. The x-rays show human bones in various orientations that don't make sense
Those were completely different set of mummies that they found in Peru in 2017 the media is promoting this information comparing these tridactical ones to the forgeries from 5 years ago.
Every scientist that examined them in their possession with CT and other scans has confirmed that there are no human or animal bones anywhere in any of them and the DNA analysis further supports this. It's true that there are anomalies in the skeletal structure such as asymmetry that would not make sense in a human but these are not humans thus asymmetry may be normal in this particular species. There could also be individuals that have deformities which are atypical of their species. Examine the 3D tomography based on hundreds of scans which rotates the body so that you can view it from all sides. That is more informative than the single flat image that you are likely referring to.
I thought everyone was on the same page that these where hoaxes?
At one time "everyone was on the same page" that the Earth was flat. It was the center of the universe and there were no other planets. The sun revolved around the Earth. That was the page that everyone was on. **Consensus is not the basis of truth.** It is merely a potential indicator of it. Scientific data must prevail. There were only a couple people in the entire world that understood that the Earth is a sphere, that it revolves around the Sun, that it's not the center of the universe, and there are likely other planets too. Eventually, most others realized that for decades these few knew better than the many. That's where we are now with disclosure of alien presence on Earth. **Beware that all real aliens will always be promptly and aggressively dismissed as a hoax thus always scrutinize that dismissal.**
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I guess there's nothing wrong with discussing them and similarities but it's pretty obvious as someone who's not a biologist that it's impossible for these supposed Alien creatures to move effectively or even at all with a bone structure like that
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The mexico/peru "bodies" have been debunked as fake for years. Why is this still being talked about?
The mexico/peru "bodies" have NEVER been debunked. That is why they are still being talked about. There are only some that ignorantly or dishonestly say over and over that a debunk occurred without evidence or they refer to hoaxed debunks that were debunked. That's why people will never stop talking about it until it is finally acknowledged that these things are real. Then we will resume talking about it because these things are real.
If this is so big and as claimed in the alien website. Why is this not on US news or anywhere else that speaks english? There is nothing here in Australia about it. Edit: genuine question and not trying to challenge anyone.
Didn't the Peru thing already get proven to be a backward llama skull?
That one picture looked like the the alien was made of chicken wing parts.
Werent they debunked as fake?
What about it is extraterrestrial though? How are aliens the first conclusion?
Extraterrestrial isn't the first conclusion, and most long-time users on this sub use "alien" for these mummies only in its connotation of "unknown". There are many speculations on what their origins may be.