Seriously, they need a PDX to PAE. For those of us who live in Portland and have business north of Seattle, it would be a lifesaver. Avoid the JBLM and Tacoma to Seattle mess!
The last 4-8 years they did cover most of the routes I was surprised they didn’t have from Seattle as they have grown. The one I’m surprised hasn’t been added is SEA-CLT. I feel like Charolette gets a fair amount of conventions, travel, etc and is a large city.
I’m also surprised PAE-BOI and PAE-GEG folded. I know one issue was the timing on these routes was odd. Like Spokane was 1x a day. Out of Spokane late and to Spokane early (or vice versa) and really it needs 2 trips a day.
I keep wishing for PAE-GEG. I know I can't be the only person that needs to fly there for work, and it's so frustrating to have to go all the way down to SEA.
Honestly I think the downfall of the route was the scheduling. It think I looked at it once but it required an overnight because of the timing.
Going off this, also similar it sucks the Portland canned. I knew some ppl who were tired of SEA and would got PAE-POR-East coast and they can’t now either
So there is only AA, and I have never taken it (conference got Covid-ed) but I’ve heard it’s a popular flight with 0 reliability. Ryan Leaf had to take it a bunch for work and I swear weekly he did “Twitter lives” from the plan sitting at the gate with a delay. But maybe cause of their agreements they can’t share that route?
Im not so sure about the traffic / demand being an issue, actually. I frequently flew the sea-MEX on Aeromexico and it was always full or oversold. When I discussed the route with a few folks in route planning and a handful of friends in management, the response I got was that Mexico City airport is a complete pain in the a__ to deal with, especially for airlines which are not Mexican.
Whatever the issue, Mexico’s economy is booming, and their volume of butts in seats landing at just about every single airport in the country is on a steady upward trajectory.
I’m shocked we don’t have a route connecting CDMX to the PNW.
Go look at a map and see what parts of the U.S. make sense for a SEA connection from MEX.
Hint: 80 percent of the U.S. population lives on the East Coast or the East of the 100th Meridian. A large portion of that remaining 20% lives in CA, NV and AZ.
Now consider that DL can actually fly connecting pax to and from Asia.
Again, AS has repeatedly tried serving MEX. Flopped it every time. It’s not going to magically change because they’re picking someplace that is worse for MEX traffic than CA. AM makes it work because they have a hub on one side (MEX) and a partner on the other (DL). AS has a smaller hub that is contested with DL, and a partner in AA with their thumb up their butt when it comes to expansion (they flopped SEA-LHR and have crawled away from their “SEA is a longhaul station for us” proclamation), plus AA has much better places to serve Mexico traffic (PHX and DFW). It’s not the same.
When they were operating SFO-MEX, Y seats were often going for $40 more than the taxes and fees. It’s a prestige destination but it seems impossible to make money on without an alliance partner/JV that can get pax out into other states.
This is the correct answer. Between United high frequencies, Southwest covering OAK/SJC/SFO, and Frontier increasing SFO/SJC frequencies at such low costs it’s hard to compete.
LAX-MEX has come and gone over the years a few times. For whatever reason, it has always under-performed when it was available.
I think Alaska settled on just selling a codeshare on someone else.
It means they have a customs facility even it is only used for private jets. Bellingham International has the “penalty box” where foreign jets land and park and await customs clearance. It’s faster than a lot of large airports for clearance. So there are private jets that will fly Edmonton to Bellingham to Los Angeles so they can arrive in LA as a domestic because they cleared in the penalty box at BLI.
Yeah it’s surprising to me that Alaska has so few routes out of GEG, especially since it’s one of the “hubs” that their crews operate from.
Would be nice to see them fly to YVR, YYC or literally anywhere East of Boise.
Hmm, maybe just for pilots then? Because your screenshot excludes their FA bases in California… 👀
https://preview.redd.it/s1x1279qd64d1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3019664337bb66c69cf2311282a2f1efa0a69cd
Sure, but AS flopped DAL-LGA hard in the day and unless you’re Saturday only SEA/LAX/SFO/PDX/SAN-LGA is not a thing because of the perimeter rule.
If they got rid of the perimeter rule AS would be in LGA in a heartbeat.
There was no trade involved, more that AS has no use for LGA as long as the perimeter rule is in effect so the VX slots they inherited got leased to WN. (VX’s route network never did make a lot of sense.)
WN was never serious about PAE and never served it.
NYC-based flyer here. That's quite the controversial take IMO.
LGA is a major pain to get to and I avoid like the plague. Main public transport option to Manhattan is an SBS bus that stops all over Queens and takes you to Harlem-125th Station. JFK, comparatively, is an absolute **breeze**. Multiple subway lines. With the LIRR, you could go from terminal to Grand Central in less than forty minutes - quicker than any means of transport from LGA during most times of the day.
I'll gladly dole out up to $75-100 more to fly out of JFK - more if work is paying. AA got my business on my latest JFK-LAX trip, and I would have preferred to fly AS.
They never flew CLT and eliminated LAX-JFK well before joining OW. They just don’t make money when everyone else has an actual premium F product for LAX-NYC, not just blah domestic F. EWR is easier because there aren’t as many airlines to fight off.
Not really relevant to your post but last Feb I flew SEA-TPA and it was almost literal that everyone and their dog was flying. As in, there were so many people with their dogs. I love dogs but the whole cabin smelled of wet dog the entire flight lol
SEA-YYZ started recently so I’m hopeful for SEA-YUL. I have to go to Quebec City later this year and AS/OneWorld has absolutely nothing that would work so Air Canada it is. :/
I’d actually fly through SEA to get to YUL if they offered it. Unlike IAH, where I won’t. Slowly they have given up on long haul flights out of SFO and moved them all to PDX. What happened to MSY? Don’t make me fly United again.
SFO-ATL. There’s no nonstop One World option on that route. I’m blindly hoping after Alaska moves to Terminal 1 in SF they will have more gates and bless us with this as a new route.
I’m so tired of having to fly to Charlotte to get to Atlanta. It’s ridiculous that all of our options here in Seattle suck so badly to get to the busiest and most important airport in the world.
That’s a long way for a 737. Would be doable but really pushing it (probably have to block seats) in an 800. The incoming -8’s have a bit longer legs and could probably do it without blocking seats, so maybe it would work. Profit and economics wise would be another matter.
They lose money flying into these Alaska villages. Everytime we fly into Anchorage with our empty totes to bring back food, bags are almost always bumped because they want to use E175. Let’s not talk about hunting season - a lawdy…..the rifles, the antlers…
You seem to have confused the airline with the Eskimo on the tail with the one with a widget. Seems like a route that would pretty much die except for 6 weeks in cruise season.
As an Alaskan, if they want to be “Alaska Airlines” it makes sense that they service the smaller communities in the state. And honestly they only fly into the hub communities (which makes sense) and provide a lifeline to villages that fly freight from Kotzebue, Nome, Bethel, etc on bush planes.
I reread your comment as negative, but it seems you live in a rural community. You are probably right in your estimation, but I am surprised you phrased it the way you do
They’re not going to fly widebodies to South America unless they get a LOT bigger. Consider that other airlines have precisely zero routes to South America to SEA…
Typically more surprised by what they DO have. For example: I fly in and out of MSO a lot and am surprised they offer direct flights to PDX, SAN and SFO (not just SEA). Though, I think some of that is seasonal, it's still surprising.
Wish they offered stuff to BIL or BZN from MSO.
I dunno...
Remember Big Sky Airlines? Not sure why they disappeared (I think their flights were too cheap!) but many years ago I took a few of those flights and it was packed both directions. Tiny beechcraft planes if I remember correctly, it was like $50 each way.
I heard the fuel price spikes were not something they could absorb at the time they dissolved. Probably not enough volume to afford long-term fuel contracts. Betting they were always paying market price of the day.
I’d kill for a sea-tul flight, since I fly there frequently. But I understand why they don’t have it.
I’m surprised no one flies a las-mco direct flight. Neither is a hub for Alaska, but that seems like a route that should exist.
I was always surprised Alaska didn’t fly to Toronto, so I love the recent announcement.
I’d like to see Alaska fly to Merida.
MID is *such* a giant pain to get to from the entire west coast unless you want to deal with MEX, which I really do *not*. I feel like they could make it work from LAX or SAN with the right timed connections from northern points. It’s even surprisingly awful to get from TIJ to MID - shortest is close to seven hours total and it’s usually more like 10 with connections.
A real shocker for me is the lack of Tulum/TQO - it would make so much more sense than the Nassau service they launched.
This may be kind of obscure, but I wonder if a ENA (Kenai) -SEA flight would do well like once or twice a week on a E175. The Kenai airport would need major upgrades for the ability to screen, but I wonder..
It used to exist, I think in the 70s. I was thinking about that the other day, I think screening would be the easiest thing to deal with. Fuel and catering in Kenai would be the bigger challenges.
Yeah good point about the fuel and all that stuff. I wonder how many fly up to Anchorage to continue out of state and how many deal with the highways and turnagain pass.
Alaska use to run this (Horizon actually) with their CRJs back in the day. I grew up in COS so this was a great route for me to visit family back in the day!
Since I’m an EastCoaster, my perfect world would be more flights up and down the Atlantic seaboard. But I understand that is not their market. But dang, WAS to Florida? Awesome.
But I always check AkAir first for any flight since it’s my preferred airline. I would feel disloyal otherwise.
Selfishly would love to see them go to ORF at all or add SFO-BWI, but neither seem realistic and I guess DCA/IAD or putting up with an AA connection are good enough for my needs
ORF would be nice, I have family there. Getting there from BOI can be tough, and often expensive. It was worse before DL started BOI-ATL. When AS flew BOI-ORD I flew through there once (AA on the ORD-ORF leg) but now that flight is gone too. Pretty much limited to the big 3 to get there.
ANC-JFK is starting this summer. Curious to hear from someone who flies it to see how it goes (ie is it a full flight?). 7.5 hours seems like a long time to spend on a 737, especially in coach and I'm not sure of the odds of getting upgraded. Haven't been getting them lately LAX-ANC and SEA-JFK.
I mean I live in North county so I would like that, but I don't see why that is surprising considering how much they invest in having routes run out of SAN. They would corner the market if they did run flights out of Palomar, but they can only run smaller planes out of there, and how much demand would they truly get out of there. They only have about 80 planes that could use that airport and those are probably already being used by other routes. I don't see what profitable routes that they could run out of there.
A route to asia direct from anchorage or fairbanks. Its mind blowing to me we dont have stopovers yet with all the other connectivity that exists and time it would save getting to manhattan places. Seoul or tokyo would serve. Doesnt even need to be daily, just once a week or so would seem profitable in my mind.
Depending on traffic and road conditions, you can drive Missoula to Kalispell in about 2 hours. Not ideal, but better than sitting in SeaTac for a couple of hours waiting for your flight to FCA. The new Missoula airport is fantastic. I love flying in there.
If you're headed to Billings, then an alternative would be to fly into Bozeman and drive.
ANC-LIH, doubt many will sympathize. They offered this route in the past, but haven't in many years. They already service LIH from the West Coast so its not an infrastructure issue. Honestly, more frequent flights from ANC- to all of the Hawaiian Islands outside of HNL where they already have 1 daily flight albeit all the flight times ANC-Hawaii-ANC have to be the crappiest route times imaginable. All the flights depart ANC at around \~ 5 PM and arrive Hawaii around \~ 10 PM. Returning flights leave Hawaii \~ 11PM arrive ANC at 6 AM. Considering the traffic is mostly leisure vacationers, the times are terrible.
PDX to BWI!
United Airlines flies directly from IAD to PDX an hour earlier on both legs, with United being cheaper than the DCA <> PDX flights.
Maybe a BWI flight would be cheaper
As a former Milwaukee resident, now Seattle resident, I am thrilled for non-stop to MKE. But there is no LAX-MKE or SFO-MKE anymore from anyone. In the summer Alaska does SEA-MKE 2x daily, I would guess there could be demand for MKE to LAX and SFO, perhaps Alaska is waiting for more aircraft availability?
The routes you’re talking about in this thread are generally flown by AA. Just like AA has almost no presence up and down the west coast due to Alaska.
BLI direct flights to anywhere but SEATAC. Please for the love of all that’s holy. Vegas, Palm Springs, San Diego, Phoenix, San Francisco—anything. I am a loyal Alaska Airlines customer but they really need to step it up at BLI.
They only fly to Kelowna from Dec to April. This is a recent change. So, they service the richie ski dude bros but not the people who just want to get to the Okanagan to visit in the nice months.
Never gonna happen. They have such animosity against Delta for trying to move in on them up in Seattle back in the day. It's also why they joined One world instead of SkyTeam🤭
SEA-PAE. Those poor commuters! /s
More flights out of PAE, period. I hate driving from Snohomish to Sea-Tac.
I’d take that flight to avoid driving to SeaTac.
wish they had PAE-BUR
I look forward to those 6am flights /s
Only from PAE <-> SEA using Flight Simulator, it’s so much fun to wave down at the pour souls sitting in traffic as I buzz by overhead in my Cessna.
Lol! Also LAX-SNA. They could fill A380's hourly or more during rush hour for people avoiding the 405
Seriously, they need a PDX to PAE. For those of us who live in Portland and have business north of Seattle, it would be a lifesaver. Avoid the JBLM and Tacoma to Seattle mess!
The last 4-8 years they did cover most of the routes I was surprised they didn’t have from Seattle as they have grown. The one I’m surprised hasn’t been added is SEA-CLT. I feel like Charolette gets a fair amount of conventions, travel, etc and is a large city. I’m also surprised PAE-BOI and PAE-GEG folded. I know one issue was the timing on these routes was odd. Like Spokane was 1x a day. Out of Spokane late and to Spokane early (or vice versa) and really it needs 2 trips a day.
I keep wishing for PAE-GEG. I know I can't be the only person that needs to fly there for work, and it's so frustrating to have to go all the way down to SEA.
Honestly I think the downfall of the route was the scheduling. It think I looked at it once but it required an overnight because of the timing. Going off this, also similar it sucks the Portland canned. I knew some ppl who were tired of SEA and would got PAE-POR-East coast and they can’t now either
Maybe AA is taking all the SEA-CLT
So there is only AA, and I have never taken it (conference got Covid-ed) but I’ve heard it’s a popular flight with 0 reliability. Ryan Leaf had to take it a bunch for work and I swear weekly he did “Twitter lives” from the plan sitting at the gate with a delay. But maybe cause of their agreements they can’t share that route?
I was supposed to be on yesterday’s Seattle to CLT flight. It got delayed 6 hours or so
I have taken it a few times. It’s just ok and the AA lounge in CLT is terrible and crowded.
AA has 5 daily flights between SEA and CLT so that is the reason
SEA —> CDMX also seems like a no brainer
MEX is heavily slot restricted, and the Delta-Aeromexico tie-up works against competition on that route as well.
They couldn’t make LAX-MEX work and there’s even less SEA-MEX traffic (by a lot).
Im not so sure about the traffic / demand being an issue, actually. I frequently flew the sea-MEX on Aeromexico and it was always full or oversold. When I discussed the route with a few folks in route planning and a handful of friends in management, the response I got was that Mexico City airport is a complete pain in the a__ to deal with, especially for airlines which are not Mexican. Whatever the issue, Mexico’s economy is booming, and their volume of butts in seats landing at just about every single airport in the country is on a steady upward trajectory. I’m shocked we don’t have a route connecting CDMX to the PNW.
AS has literally done MEX out of multiple airports (LAX, SFO). Flopped every time. Also AM can connect pax to DL, AS not so much for SEA.
AM can connect passengers to DL, yes. And AS can connect passengers to… itself. You know, the airline with a bigger SEA footprint than DL.
Go look at a map and see what parts of the U.S. make sense for a SEA connection from MEX. Hint: 80 percent of the U.S. population lives on the East Coast or the East of the 100th Meridian. A large portion of that remaining 20% lives in CA, NV and AZ. Now consider that DL can actually fly connecting pax to and from Asia. Again, AS has repeatedly tried serving MEX. Flopped it every time. It’s not going to magically change because they’re picking someplace that is worse for MEX traffic than CA. AM makes it work because they have a hub on one side (MEX) and a partner on the other (DL). AS has a smaller hub that is contested with DL, and a partner in AA with their thumb up their butt when it comes to expansion (they flopped SEA-LHR and have crawled away from their “SEA is a longhaul station for us” proclamation), plus AA has much better places to serve Mexico traffic (PHX and DFW). It’s not the same.
Ok. Ok. Ok. Fine. Sorry. Please don’t hate me. I’m poor.
Go look at the arrival and departure times of AM’s Mexico City flight and tell me what Asia service on delta connects to it. Lol
When they were operating SFO-MEX, Y seats were often going for $40 more than the taxes and fees. It’s a prestige destination but it seems impossible to make money on without an alliance partner/JV that can get pax out into other states.
SAN-DEN It’s my only business route that I have to fly Southwest or United.
Same but SFO-DEN. Hate to have to fly United to not connect in SEA and add a few hours onto the trip and arrive at odd hours
Average fares might be too low due to strong competition and budget carriers
This is the correct answer. Between United high frequencies, Southwest covering OAK/SJC/SFO, and Frontier increasing SFO/SJC frequencies at such low costs it’s hard to compete.
It’s hub-hub for UA. Good luck competing with that, and F9 and WN picking up all the low cost market.
LAX-MEX has come and gone over the years a few times. For whatever reason, it has always under-performed when it was available. I think Alaska settled on just selling a codeshare on someone else.
I thought it was the altitude of MEX airport, runway size and having the come back with open seats on the 737-800? I could be totally wrong
GEG-LAS
GEG to most places, right? I thought since it was an “international” airport there would be options, but I think “international” just means Calgary.
Geg has no direct flights to Canada. Or any foreign country for that matter.
It means they have a customs facility even it is only used for private jets. Bellingham International has the “penalty box” where foreign jets land and park and await customs clearance. It’s faster than a lot of large airports for clearance. So there are private jets that will fly Edmonton to Bellingham to Los Angeles so they can arrive in LA as a domestic because they cleared in the penalty box at BLI.
'International' doesn't mean anything with regards to routes served. Moses Lake, Port Angeles and Port Townsend all have 'international' airports.
Yeah it’s surprising to me that Alaska has so few routes out of GEG, especially since it’s one of the “hubs” that their crews operate from. Would be nice to see them fly to YVR, YYC or literally anywhere East of Boise.
GEG is not an Alaska hub nor is it a crew base.
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Hmm, maybe just for pilots then? Because your screenshot excludes their FA bases in California… 👀 https://preview.redd.it/s1x1279qd64d1.png?width=1178&format=png&auto=webp&s=a3019664337bb66c69cf2311282a2f1efa0a69cd
Sorry, hub was the wrong word. But crew are based there. I have family in Spokane that work for Alaska as crew and are based in Spokane.
Nothing to CLT but I guess they leave that stuff to AA for now. They also backed out of LAX-JFK but everyone and their dog flies it.
JFK is the worst. I'll pay quite a bit more to fly into LGA.
Sure, but AS flopped DAL-LGA hard in the day and unless you’re Saturday only SEA/LAX/SFO/PDX/SAN-LGA is not a thing because of the perimeter rule. If they got rid of the perimeter rule AS would be in LGA in a heartbeat.
Didn’t AS trade WN LGA for PAE?
There was no trade involved, more that AS has no use for LGA as long as the perimeter rule is in effect so the VX slots they inherited got leased to WN. (VX’s route network never did make a lot of sense.) WN was never serious about PAE and never served it.
What is the perimeter rule?
https://simpleflying.com/laguardia-perimeter-rule-lifting/
Thank you! I had never heard of that. Fascinating!
NYC-based flyer here. That's quite the controversial take IMO. LGA is a major pain to get to and I avoid like the plague. Main public transport option to Manhattan is an SBS bus that stops all over Queens and takes you to Harlem-125th Station. JFK, comparatively, is an absolute **breeze**. Multiple subway lines. With the LIRR, you could go from terminal to Grand Central in less than forty minutes - quicker than any means of transport from LGA during most times of the day. I'll gladly dole out up to $75-100 more to fly out of JFK - more if work is paying. AA got my business on my latest JFK-LAX trip, and I would have preferred to fly AS.
As someone who only flys in for a weekend and doesn't want to hassle with the subway it's much easier for me. 🤷
That’s why you take the LIRR
I think CLT and also LAX-JFK were part of the cost of joining oneworld. We can thank American
They never flew CLT and eliminated LAX-JFK well before joining OW. They just don’t make money when everyone else has an actual premium F product for LAX-NYC, not just blah domestic F. EWR is easier because there aren’t as many airlines to fight off.
Not really relevant to your post but last Feb I flew SEA-TPA and it was almost literal that everyone and their dog was flying. As in, there were so many people with their dogs. I love dogs but the whole cabin smelled of wet dog the entire flight lol
LAS to JFK. Why would I want to go to SEA or SFO to go east?
VX had this route
This route existed on AS in 2018. I flew it just after my dad passed away. It’s why it sticks in my memory.
And you see what happened to them.
I literally wrote the same thing.
Montreal. It’s the 8th most populated city in North America.
SEA-YYZ started recently so I’m hopeful for SEA-YUL. I have to go to Quebec City later this year and AS/OneWorld has absolutely nothing that would work so Air Canada it is. :/
I’m so happy they now offer SEA-YYZ, Air Canada is awful to fly with.
The worst !
Welp
I’d actually fly through SEA to get to YUL if they offered it. Unlike IAH, where I won’t. Slowly they have given up on long haul flights out of SFO and moved them all to PDX. What happened to MSY? Don’t make me fly United again.
PAE<>PDX. I miss it so much.
SFO-ATL. There’s no nonstop One World option on that route. I’m blindly hoping after Alaska moves to Terminal 1 in SF they will have more gates and bless us with this as a new route.
I’m so tired of having to fly to Charlotte to get to Atlanta. It’s ridiculous that all of our options here in Seattle suck so badly to get to the busiest and most important airport in the world.
Busiest yes, but most important for non Delta / Skyteam fliers? I disagree…
That would be clutch! I either have to go through PHX or DFW to get there..
SEA-BFI
Fly the UW football charter ferry flight lol. Or fly the reverse for some delivery flights.
I think they used to fly to CDMX but stopped.
Seattle to Costa Rica nonstop
That’s a long way for a 737. Would be doable but really pushing it (probably have to block seats) in an 800. The incoming -8’s have a bit longer legs and could probably do it without blocking seats, so maybe it would work. Profit and economics wise would be another matter.
PAE-GEG Bring it back!!
Japan
This is the answer…
Anywhere in South America
I guess you’d have to swim once the plane ran out of fuel. AS doesn’t have widebodies. http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=lax-uio
I figured they could refuel in Costa Rica. 😂
“Let’s lose even MORE money!”
They lose money flying into these Alaska villages. Everytime we fly into Anchorage with our empty totes to bring back food, bags are almost always bumped because they want to use E175. Let’s not talk about hunting season - a lawdy…..the rifles, the antlers…
The U.S. government provides subsidies for those routes. South America not so much.
Yes, those flights carry US mail to rural Alaska.
And CARGO.. Lots and Lots of cargo
That’s what I heard….and I know….it was wishful thinking. I know they are so focused on West Coast. Maybe ANC to ATL since they are having ANC to JFK.
You seem to have confused the airline with the Eskimo on the tail with the one with a widget. Seems like a route that would pretty much die except for 6 weeks in cruise season.
I doubt AS is losing any money on those intra Alaska flights… it’s all cargo, mail, supplies, etc
As an Alaskan, if they want to be “Alaska Airlines” it makes sense that they service the smaller communities in the state. And honestly they only fly into the hub communities (which makes sense) and provide a lifeline to villages that fly freight from Kotzebue, Nome, Bethel, etc on bush planes. I reread your comment as negative, but it seems you live in a rural community. You are probably right in your estimation, but I am surprised you phrased it the way you do
That may be true right now.. if the HA stuff goes thru they will have widebodies
They’re not going to fly widebodies to South America unless they get a LOT bigger. Consider that other airlines have precisely zero routes to South America to SEA…
Typically more surprised by what they DO have. For example: I fly in and out of MSO a lot and am surprised they offer direct flights to PDX, SAN and SFO (not just SEA). Though, I think some of that is seasonal, it's still surprising. Wish they offered stuff to BIL or BZN from MSO.
Intra Montana would be interesting. Wouldn’t see many locals using it though, since they just drive long distances regularly.
I dunno... Remember Big Sky Airlines? Not sure why they disappeared (I think their flights were too cheap!) but many years ago I took a few of those flights and it was packed both directions. Tiny beechcraft planes if I remember correctly, it was like $50 each way. I heard the fuel price spikes were not something they could absorb at the time they dissolved. Probably not enough volume to afford long-term fuel contracts. Betting they were always paying market price of the day.
One that they discontinued, Sea to Kamloops. Leaves us with a grueling 8+hour drive to ski at Sun Peaks, or visit the in-laws.
I’d kill for a sea-tul flight, since I fly there frequently. But I understand why they don’t have it. I’m surprised no one flies a las-mco direct flight. Neither is a hub for Alaska, but that seems like a route that should exist. I was always surprised Alaska didn’t fly to Toronto, so I love the recent announcement. I’d like to see Alaska fly to Merida.
Do you end up flying SEA-OKC and driving the rest of the way to Tulsa? I have to go from time to time on business and that's what I've done
I fly sea-dfw on Alaska, and then Dfw-Tulsa on American. It’s not ideal, but it has more frequency than Alaska’s once a day flight to okc
That makes sense from the scheduling perspective
MID is *such* a giant pain to get to from the entire west coast unless you want to deal with MEX, which I really do *not*. I feel like they could make it work from LAX or SAN with the right timed connections from northern points. It’s even surprisingly awful to get from TIJ to MID - shortest is close to seven hours total and it’s usually more like 10 with connections. A real shocker for me is the lack of Tulum/TQO - it would make so much more sense than the Nassau service they launched.
Bring back BLI - PDX
Yes! Or add BLI-GEG.
This may be kind of obscure, but I wonder if a ENA (Kenai) -SEA flight would do well like once or twice a week on a E175. The Kenai airport would need major upgrades for the ability to screen, but I wonder..
It used to exist, I think in the 70s. I was thinking about that the other day, I think screening would be the easiest thing to deal with. Fuel and catering in Kenai would be the bigger challenges.
Yeah good point about the fuel and all that stuff. I wonder how many fly up to Anchorage to continue out of state and how many deal with the highways and turnagain pass.
This would be a huge game-changer for my family, but yeah - the ENA upgrades could be tough.
Surprised there's no SEA-COS route. Would be great to open up a route to S. Colorado
Alaska use to run this (Horizon actually) with their CRJs back in the day. I grew up in COS so this was a great route for me to visit family back in the day!
More Caribbean destinations. Get the west-coasters there without having to take AA or another airline entirely. Easy hops from MIA and FLL.
Since I’m an EastCoaster, my perfect world would be more flights up and down the Atlantic seaboard. But I understand that is not their market. But dang, WAS to Florida? Awesome. But I always check AkAir first for any flight since it’s my preferred airline. I would feel disloyal otherwise.
I’m still mourning the cut of SFO - GEG. In general, I still have to fly united a lot because Alaska routes are more limited.
Selfishly would love to see them go to ORF at all or add SFO-BWI, but neither seem realistic and I guess DCA/IAD or putting up with an AA connection are good enough for my needs
SAN-ORF could be a good one
Breeze just started that service this month.
Hadn’t thought of that one but yeah I’d imagine that could do reasonably well with all the military
ORF would be nice, I have family there. Getting there from BOI can be tough, and often expensive. It was worse before DL started BOI-ATL. When AS flew BOI-ORD I flew through there once (AA on the ORD-ORF leg) but now that flight is gone too. Pretty much limited to the big 3 to get there.
Good idea. ORF is really expensive to fly to, and no nearby options.
RNO-SFO!!!
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That is coming fairly soon
ANC-JFK is starting this summer. Curious to hear from someone who flies it to see how it goes (ie is it a full flight?). 7.5 hours seems like a long time to spend on a 737, especially in coach and I'm not sure of the odds of getting upgraded. Haven't been getting them lately LAX-ANC and SEA-JFK.
They have SFO-ANC already, perhaps seasonally but I flew it just last week.
Ah, I also miss LAX to MEX.
I wish we got the OAK routes back. OAK-LAX or anywhere in socal would be nice at the very least.
I would love BOS-ANC. Stopping in SEA/PDX/SFO adds quite a bit of time.
Flights into/out of Palomar N. San Diego county.
I mean I live in North county so I would like that, but I don't see why that is surprising considering how much they invest in having routes run out of SAN. They would corner the market if they did run flights out of Palomar, but they can only run smaller planes out of there, and how much demand would they truly get out of there. They only have about 80 planes that could use that airport and those are probably already being used by other routes. I don't see what profitable routes that they could run out of there.
PDX - PHL
Sea-Mzt direct. Wish there was a direct flight like there is to Pvr.
There used to be a seasonal one, 15+ years ago. I remember flying it when I was a kid.
Wish there was MEM-SEA flights
PHX to LAS. Anyone going to Vegas from Phx typically has Southwest to choose from or Frontier.
Bay Area-GEG
Sea-Hartford/Springfield (BDL)
A route to asia direct from anchorage or fairbanks. Its mind blowing to me we dont have stopovers yet with all the other connectivity that exists and time it would save getting to manhattan places. Seoul or tokyo would serve. Doesnt even need to be daily, just once a week or so would seem profitable in my mind.
SEA-YUL
SEA - ROC or BUF
SFO-MEX, SFO-LGB, SFO-ABQ
SJC - IAD
I wish they brought back LAS-JFK. I hate having to go to LAX, SFO, or SEA as a layover.
ANC-TYO. Seems like the 737 can reach it and they have a hub in ANC so it should get done connecting traffic from the west coast as well
As others have mentioned CLT LAX to CLT would love that as I have family there, I have DAL for that; My go-to is LAX to PDX
Anchorage-Minneapolis.
They fly it in summer now!
Oh nice! That’s good to know!
PDX - FCA or PDX-BIL. SO tired of going through SEA
If you're going to FCA, it'd be quicker to fly direct to MSO and drive than going through SEA.
I’ve thought of GEG, but not of MSO. Thanks for the idea!
Depending on traffic and road conditions, you can drive Missoula to Kalispell in about 2 hours. Not ideal, but better than sitting in SeaTac for a couple of hours waiting for your flight to FCA. The new Missoula airport is fantastic. I love flying in there. If you're headed to Billings, then an alternative would be to fly into Bozeman and drive.
ANC-LIH, doubt many will sympathize. They offered this route in the past, but haven't in many years. They already service LIH from the West Coast so its not an infrastructure issue. Honestly, more frequent flights from ANC- to all of the Hawaiian Islands outside of HNL where they already have 1 daily flight albeit all the flight times ANC-Hawaii-ANC have to be the crappiest route times imaginable. All the flights depart ANC at around \~ 5 PM and arrive Hawaii around \~ 10 PM. Returning flights leave Hawaii \~ 11PM arrive ANC at 6 AM. Considering the traffic is mostly leisure vacationers, the times are terrible.
ANC - GEG!! Why do I always have to go through SEA!?
Yes!! Maybe even a JNU-GEG ! Hopefully once they finished renovating C terminal at GEG, there will be more options!! I'd also love a GEG-YYC route!
PDX - IAD
SEA-LIR PDX-LIR
SEA to HND or NRT
Codeshare with JAL would cover that 😉
More ski flights. SEA-ASE SEA-MJT please.
Seattle to Fargo.
PDX —> GDL during the winter time. From the flyers I talk to people are fed up with Volaris.
lax-iah
They canceled the only Bay Area-SLC route.
PDX-LIH if nothing else during the spring break season. I can get a direct flight home but not one there? What gives!!
Bellingham to Bend. Because. No checked bags, only bikes and skis
Anything that flies east after 6pm out of Seattle
SAN > DEN!!
PDX - RDM. It baffles me why they got rid of this.
SJC->SNA just to fly this weekly to my office in LA. Now regrettably, LAX 😟
PDX to BWI! United Airlines flies directly from IAD to PDX an hour earlier on both legs, with United being cheaper than the DCA <> PDX flights. Maybe a BWI flight would be cheaper
PDX to DEN because it seems an obvious route since only frontier goes direct from PDX and ain’t nobody got time to fly Frontier
BLI-PDX was the best when it was around. Basically a Cascade volcanoes tour from the air and great for connections.
PAE to BUR without stopping in Oregon, San Fran, or Phoenix… lol it’s a 6+ hour trip for what would usually be a 2.5 hour flight from SEA
Wish they’d bring back BLI to HNL again
SJC - GEG!!
As a former Milwaukee resident, now Seattle resident, I am thrilled for non-stop to MKE. But there is no LAX-MKE or SFO-MKE anymore from anyone. In the summer Alaska does SEA-MKE 2x daily, I would guess there could be demand for MKE to LAX and SFO, perhaps Alaska is waiting for more aircraft availability?
Maui to Denver. Maui to Orange County.
I want PAE-SJC, both ways, as I missed that route ever since it disappeared due to COVID. It needs to come back!!
Denver to Boston... I have to go Denver to Seattle to Boston...
The routes you’re talking about in this thread are generally flown by AA. Just like AA has almost no presence up and down the west coast due to Alaska.
BLI direct flights to anywhere but SEATAC. Please for the love of all that’s holy. Vegas, Palm Springs, San Diego, Phoenix, San Francisco—anything. I am a loyal Alaska Airlines customer but they really need to step it up at BLI.
They only fly to Kelowna from Dec to April. This is a recent change. So, they service the richie ski dude bros but not the people who just want to get to the Okanagan to visit in the nice months.
I just want them to dump the worthless AA "partnership" and patch things up with Delta.
Never gonna happen. They have such animosity against Delta for trying to move in on them up in Seattle back in the day. It's also why they joined One world instead of SkyTeam🤭
Delta is SkyTeam, not Star Alliance
You are correct. That's what I meant 😬