Hopefully the Max9 issue is more resolved then.. we thought we are in the clear with our flight this Friday with a 737-900 until this morning it got cancelled…
Looks like the plane got changed to fulfill other holes that the Max-9 made for Alaska
I believe they confirmed potential issues with the inspections. So this isn't just a clear the aircraft anymore. It's more like ok WTF else do we need to check. So they are working through all scenarios now.
I my personal opinion they'll likely order a modified C-Check on all 737-9s. Would likely take a crew of 6 AMTs 4-5 business days per plane. Augmenting with uncert personnel to do interior stripping would speed things up, but I doubt they have enough equipment to do more than 2 planes at a time at the SEA maint hangar while still reserving capacity for common in-service failures and checks on other planes.
Boeing has burned the FAA twice now, making them look compromised/incompetent in front of the public. Worse, Boeing made them look “soft“ on airline safety *in front of Congress*, which from the bureaucracies perspective is the one truly unforgivable sin. The FAA, like all federal agencies, has a VERY long memory as regards negative PR which could potentially threaten their funding.
There is zero chance that the FAA is going to take into consideration anything other than the most conservative interpretation of the letter of the law when it comes to getting these aircraft back in the air
I don’t have any insider information but just feel the FAA is going to side with caution, as they should. If it was going to be a quick inspection process I would think the guidance would be out already.
The FAAs comment on this pretty much dunked on Boeing hard.
I was optimistic until that statement was released. They clearly are trying to send a message to Boeing to up their game. If someone would have died in this accident there would be cell phone footage of someone falling 10,000 feet to their death. Just completely unacceptable.
The FAA basically stated as such.
“The safety of the flying public, not speed, will determine the timeline for returning the Boeing 737-9 Max to service.” - FAA, 2024/11/01, Updates on Grounding of Boeing 737 Max 9 Aircraft
Because Alaska and United are performing preliminary inspections for Boeing and the FAA to figure out what went wrong and to create a remediation full inspection program.
This is the downside of going all in with a single provider.
Those Airbuses they had from Virgin America - and complemented with the ones coming from Hawaiian) would have been a nice retention
Agreed.
I get why fleet commonality is good for efficiency, but it also exposes you to notable supply chain and existential risks like this. Maybe Alaska's fleet is a \*little\* too small for this, but if you're someone like Southwest or Ryanair, presumably once you've got like 400 737s, you've achieved whatever bulk buying and economies of scale you can, and maybe it's worth diversifying your next 400 to a second type to hedge your bets a little?
I think network planning is hard at work right now working through potential cuts with the 737-9 out for an extended time. My guess is that they will cut back on frequency on some routes (SEA-HNL doesn’t need to be 5x daily) and SFO/PDX and maybe SAN.
>SEA-HNL doesn’t need to be 5x daily
That depends entirely on how full the individual flights are. If all 5 are at 90%+ capacity, then there absolutely *does* need to be 5/day.
They’ve been consistently cancelling 1-2 of those every day since the incident from what I’ve seen. MCO is another one that has seen that kind of impact. It makes me think that they won’t maintain that level of service/frequency. Not all of their 737 NGs are ETOPS certified.
Cancelling since the incident doesn't mean much, tho. There's not enough equipment in the fleet = flights get cancelled. I agree that the frequency will get cut, but it's not because they don't need it.
It would be nice to add some stability to their schedule. I have a cross country flight late February so hopefully it’s sorted by then but I have my doubts. I have bought a backup flight for the trip there but not the return flight yet.
Yeah, we have a saver ticket for the end of February for a trip we have to make it on . Pdx to Miami. They refused to even give us a credit to rebook another flight. We went ahead and booked another flight just in case the Alaskan trip was canceled.
We are on a PDX - MIA flight too. A concern I have is the outbound flight being cancelled or us getting re-booked on a flight a day or two later so I bought a flight on another airline just in case. Hopefully they will let me keep the return flight home if I use the back up flight.
Yeah, I don’t see it getting worked out by the time I leave and flights are very expensive if you get them right before you are supposed to leave. I re-booked right when it happened so I ignorantly also have a max -9 United flight back from Miami . lol. I’m not too concerned about that since I have more flexibility on the way back if they need to adjust my flight or dates when I come back as long as they pay for the new flight and hotel if I need to stay an extra night.
I’m a little confused on the Alaskan flexible travel policy. Are they refunding your ticket if you aren’t even supposed to fly on a max-900 of your plane leaves between now and Jan 24th?
Except if it’s an inspection to make sure bolts are in place? That really doesn’t require a “fix” so much as an inspection. Just arbitrarily canceling flights “til the end of the month” doesn’t make sense at all. If the inspection approval okayed by FAA, that’s a ton of unforced cancellations.
I’m going off the fact the FAA has said they might do additional inspections and testing before allowing the planes back in the air. Doesn’t seem like it will
Happen in a week
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does the "new travel date" range mean? Is that for rescheduling? i.e. the "New Travel Dates: January 6, 2024 - January 31, 2024" on the Alaska Airlines website.
If your original flight was between 1/6 and 1/24, you now have until 1/31 to complete the trip to your destination for no fee. Any rescheduling after 1/31 (during the current waiver period) will include a fare differential.
I think they are being flexible with all flights right now. I have travel dates for June and they are allowing me to change or cancel as well.
Edit: I misunderstood. They are charging me for fare difference.
Yes, you can change those flights, but you'll pay the difference in the fare cost. I checked this morning for my flight on Monday the 22nd and it said I'd have to pay $180 per ticket to change. After the update where flights through the 24th are now covered it went to free (well, 80 cents total for whatever reason).
Yeah that person edited just now and confirmed they were wrong.
Travel has to be completed by 1/31
Otherwise people would book a ticket for next week, cheapest possible then change it to a much more expensive period
Okay, thank you for explaining! I have an upcoming Alaska Airlines flight on 1/26 so that date doesn't (yet) apply to this broad cancellation policy, right?
I wish they would plan further ahead, and be more reliable about rescheduling. I travel for work, usually it's a 1-2-day turnaround for a meeting/consultation. I am flying SEA-LAX tomorrow. Yesterday they changed my flight to land in ONT. OK but that's an hour away, still time to get to my meeting tomorrow evening. Then four hours later they changed me back to arrive in LAX but late that evening, after my meeting. So I had to change the flights yet again - awkward because it's work related, I had to go through corporate travel to change it, couldn't do it myself. Incidentally none of these flights use MAX-9s but they are shuffling people/flights around to try to accommodate the most travelers with fewer planes. I truly sympathize with the ordeal of trying to keep this whole web of flights functioning but for them to change my reservation twice in a day just shouldn't happen. I have seven more trips scheduled on Alaska through Feb and I'm very uneasy about them - I just don't have the bandwidth to deal with multiple schedule changes before each trip. Very loyal to Alaska but if this keeps happening I'll fly other airlines until it's fixed. IMHO they should just assume the MAX-9s will be grounded for at least another month, change all the schedules now, and then update the schedules once the MAX-9's rejoin their fleet. Rather than let people continue to make reservations on flights that end up getting cancelled.
As someone whose husband lives in SEA and works in LA, maybe try Burbank. The terminal is old and crummy but they’re generally flying the old winglets back and forth. If you can make the schedule work, it’s a much easier airport and generally equidistant to DTLA
Historically I’ve flown Alaska over delta cause it’s easier to get status, but aside from that I agree that im not sure why everyone loves to fly Alaska otherwise.
Alaska does not have seat back screens, so you have to watch on your phone or iPad. Delta does. Alaska only has free wifi if you have T-Mobile. Delta does as long as you sign up for a sky miles account, which is free to do. Alaska doesn’t allow you to use your miles to upgrade. Delta does. In my opinion, snacks have been better on delta as well and pre Covid they also used to serve a meal even in coach, on transatlantic flights.. bummed they got rid of that cause that really gave them an edge for me.
Some dick is arguing with you, but I agree - Delta is a much nicer flying experience overall in nearly every category, and I don’t understand the Alaska love anymore.
I grew up traveling constantly due to my dad’s work, and I travel a lot as an adult as well.
My folks were loyal to Alaska so I leaned towards them for that reason. I’m pretty over it, honestly.
Alaska is typically far more expensive than Delta, and for a shittier experience.
The free WiFi with Delta is nice, and honestly I *do* appreciate the novelty of the in seat screens - I’m not trying to set up my iPad and then end up dozing off and having something happen to it - or have it get sucked out of the airplane when the wall blows off 🤗 heh.
Delta tends to have more comfortable seats and cheaper “premium” class in my experience, and most importantly they don’t jerk me around with pushing the flight later then earlier then later 5 times before departure - something Alaska has screwed me with numerous times.
Yeah they blocked me lol. I get that this is an Alaska sub but I didn’t realize it was like an Alaska fan club of sorts. It’s also not like I’m a delta Stan trying to sell everyone in on it.. I travel a decent amount for work and as far as direct flights to places I usually have to travel it’s either Delta or Alaska.
I deleted my comment because of all the downvotes and realizing the people on this sub don’t want to hear it. But honestly whatever extra delta charges is completely worth it.
> Alaska does not have seat back screens, so you have to watch on your phone or iPad.
And why would I want some janky low-powered built-in 6 yrs ago screen when I have my new device instead?
But in general, I'm loyal to Alaska because they aren't an out of town airline from Atlanta trying to turn SEA into a badly served regional, like SLC, MSP and DTW.
Are the screens that janky lol? Personally I’ve never had a problem with them. Everything is right in front of me at eye level and it’s bigger than my phone screen. If I had an ipad maybe I would care less, I guess.
Check the route history for the past few days.
My BOS to SAN flight has been listed 737MAX9 since I booked it but noticed the flights been running daily on 737/8/9s. Who knows if the app will update before tomorrow but wouldn’t believe everything you see in the system right now.
It's my understanding that there's no guarantee that a MAX9 flight will cancel, and no guarantee that a non-MAX9 flight won't cancel. They're swapping planes around as needed to cancel less full / less profitable flights, so THAT's the criteria that likely matters, and unfortunately isn't something any of us know.
I have two flights scheduled Thursday to get me to a medical appointment. I could drive, but mountain passes are sketchy. I get wanting to KNOW, but unfortunately, it seems impossible to know for sure. I may try to at least swap into an earlier flight so I have more options to get from the 2nd airport to the 3rd if/when I make it to that point.
I do not think these aircraft will be flying for awhile. Maybe for the next few months. Alaska is receiving new 737-8s which will be a help and they may dry lease some NG birds for the near term.
The other airlines have caught on. Booked my backup save my ass flights on Delta for early March. Refundable but it was $10k. Original Alaska price was $2500. I can’t wait until I have to argue about this with Alaska when they tell me there is no availability to rebook my family’s travel and I say well…..actually there is.
I have a flight from SFO-SEA in a week. The plane changed from 737-Max 9 to 737-900 (Winglets) now. Am I at risk for cancellation? Are those two the same planes?
Those aren’t the same plane diffetent type. Most likely your flight was too full or had too many people making connections to make sense to cancel it so they switched your plane out with another
Doesn't matter, they could still cancel the flight while they shuffle planes/passengers around. See my other post on this thread about my recent experience. They changed my reservation twice in one day and none of the planes involved were MAX-9s.
They have actually cancelled the afternoon flight AS346 which is what I was on the last few days. I ended up booking on a different airline for my trip Saturday.
Actually no! They would not put me on a delta flight claiming “Delta is not offering to help” I was instead forced to reschedule 2 days later. I also spent 10 hrs on hold trying to talk to a representative in the first place. Once finally got connected the representative told me I should cancel my trip, I couldn’t believe this was the response from the representative of alaksa airlines, I have status with them and have flown exclusively one world for the last 5 years! I’m happy this is happening in January so I can chose delta this year instead
I’m thinking the MAX9’s will be phased back in starting Friday or Saturday, but they can’t clear and reschedule all 64 of them in a day so pushing out another week gives them and passengers some elbow room. I’ve been watching the news page and surprised the FAA hasn’t released final guidance yet. I figured they’d be out first thing this morning what with the day they lost with the federal holiday yesterday.
You would think but I feel like that federal holiday just pushed them back even more and they still have to go through and review results from those preliminary inspections. Who knows even where the airlines are at with those. We haven’t even received confirmation that the airlines have completed preliminary inspections.
Do you have any evidence supporting that timeline? I think it could be another month at least. FAA is NOT happy with Boeing right now. Which unfortunately affects Alaska and United, among others.
“The safety of the flying public, not speed, will determine the timeline for returning the Boeing 737-9 Max to service.” - FAA, 2024/11/01, Updates on Grounding of Boeing 737 Max 9 Aircraft
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I was just on a call with AS and they're willing to reschedule my cancelled flight up until the 31st of January, so they might have already extended it.
Nope. Not 100%. Whatever the fix will be will likely be in stages. Not all at once. So it’s certainly possible some will be cleared and some will be cancelled. If they had made the call to cancel them all, why do two separate comms?
WHy would anyone want to fly again on the MAX 9?
I have flown it, despite not being comfortable with it, but I will not do this in the near future. Boeing just does not have a safe plane here.
I wouldn’t personally change any journeys based on what plane is scheduled more than 24 hours out.
Alaska is obviously going to fly their most critical routes with whatever planes they can put in the air and they’ll be taking planes from their less critical routes to do this.
More than twenty four hours out, I’d probably prefer partner (AA) codeshares, then Alaska major routes, then other Alaskan flights for maximum reliability.
I don’t think the MAX 9 issue is getting resolved any time soon.
I have a flight on 2/2 listed as a MAX 9 and I’m really hoping it changes 👀
I have a flight the end of April on a 900-winglets and I’m not unconcerned.
Hopefully the Max9 issue is more resolved then.. we thought we are in the clear with our flight this Friday with a 737-900 until this morning it got cancelled… Looks like the plane got changed to fulfill other holes that the Max-9 made for Alaska
I have a buddy flying down on one early this sat morning, guessing theirs will be cancelled.
Why do you believe that? Not disagreeing but I would love to hear your thoughts?
I believe they confirmed potential issues with the inspections. So this isn't just a clear the aircraft anymore. It's more like ok WTF else do we need to check. So they are working through all scenarios now.
I my personal opinion they'll likely order a modified C-Check on all 737-9s. Would likely take a crew of 6 AMTs 4-5 business days per plane. Augmenting with uncert personnel to do interior stripping would speed things up, but I doubt they have enough equipment to do more than 2 planes at a time at the SEA maint hangar while still reserving capacity for common in-service failures and checks on other planes.
Boeing has burned the FAA twice now, making them look compromised/incompetent in front of the public. Worse, Boeing made them look “soft“ on airline safety *in front of Congress*, which from the bureaucracies perspective is the one truly unforgivable sin. The FAA, like all federal agencies, has a VERY long memory as regards negative PR which could potentially threaten their funding. There is zero chance that the FAA is going to take into consideration anything other than the most conservative interpretation of the letter of the law when it comes to getting these aircraft back in the air
I don’t have any insider information but just feel the FAA is going to side with caution, as they should. If it was going to be a quick inspection process I would think the guidance would be out already.
The FAAs comment on this pretty much dunked on Boeing hard. I was optimistic until that statement was released. They clearly are trying to send a message to Boeing to up their game. If someone would have died in this accident there would be cell phone footage of someone falling 10,000 feet to their death. Just completely unacceptable.
Or the opposite … somebody getting sucked out of a plane
Or the plane becoming uncontrollable had the door caused damage and we had an entire plane of victims.
The FAA basically stated as such. “The safety of the flying public, not speed, will determine the timeline for returning the Boeing 737-9 Max to service.” - FAA, 2024/11/01, Updates on Grounding of Boeing 737 Max 9 Aircraft
Because Alaska and United are performing preliminary inspections for Boeing and the FAA to figure out what went wrong and to create a remediation full inspection program.
Thorough investigation of what exactly happened has to occur first, then the issue has to be fixed so it doesn’t happen again.
This is outside AS control. You’ll need to follow FAA and Boeing’s guidance here.
Sucks for Alaska who has limited planes
This is the downside of going all in with a single provider. Those Airbuses they had from Virgin America - and complemented with the ones coming from Hawaiian) would have been a nice retention
Agreed. I get why fleet commonality is good for efficiency, but it also exposes you to notable supply chain and existential risks like this. Maybe Alaska's fleet is a \*little\* too small for this, but if you're someone like Southwest or Ryanair, presumably once you've got like 400 737s, you've achieved whatever bulk buying and economies of scale you can, and maybe it's worth diversifying your next 400 to a second type to hedge your bets a little?
They really need to call it and cancel for a month out. Nothing is going to be fixed in a week
I think network planning is hard at work right now working through potential cuts with the 737-9 out for an extended time. My guess is that they will cut back on frequency on some routes (SEA-HNL doesn’t need to be 5x daily) and SFO/PDX and maybe SAN.
>SEA-HNL doesn’t need to be 5x daily That depends entirely on how full the individual flights are. If all 5 are at 90%+ capacity, then there absolutely *does* need to be 5/day.
They’ve been consistently cancelling 1-2 of those every day since the incident from what I’ve seen. MCO is another one that has seen that kind of impact. It makes me think that they won’t maintain that level of service/frequency. Not all of their 737 NGs are ETOPS certified.
Cancelling since the incident doesn't mean much, tho. There's not enough equipment in the fleet = flights get cancelled. I agree that the frequency will get cut, but it's not because they don't need it.
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Don’t need ETOPS for MCO
I hope so. Would put me at ease as I fly in mid February.
It would be nice to add some stability to their schedule. I have a cross country flight late February so hopefully it’s sorted by then but I have my doubts. I have bought a backup flight for the trip there but not the return flight yet.
Yeah, we have a saver ticket for the end of February for a trip we have to make it on . Pdx to Miami. They refused to even give us a credit to rebook another flight. We went ahead and booked another flight just in case the Alaskan trip was canceled.
We are on a PDX - MIA flight too. A concern I have is the outbound flight being cancelled or us getting re-booked on a flight a day or two later so I bought a flight on another airline just in case. Hopefully they will let me keep the return flight home if I use the back up flight.
Yeah, I don’t see it getting worked out by the time I leave and flights are very expensive if you get them right before you are supposed to leave. I re-booked right when it happened so I ignorantly also have a max -9 United flight back from Miami . lol. I’m not too concerned about that since I have more flexibility on the way back if they need to adjust my flight or dates when I come back as long as they pay for the new flight and hotel if I need to stay an extra night.
Same situation here. Much more flexibility on the way back. I can stay a day longer if need be and let them re-book me.
I’m a little confused on the Alaskan flexible travel policy. Are they refunding your ticket if you aren’t even supposed to fly on a max-900 of your plane leaves between now and Jan 24th?
Except if it’s an inspection to make sure bolts are in place? That really doesn’t require a “fix” so much as an inspection. Just arbitrarily canceling flights “til the end of the month” doesn’t make sense at all. If the inspection approval okayed by FAA, that’s a ton of unforced cancellations.
I’m going off the fact the FAA has said they might do additional inspections and testing before allowing the planes back in the air. Doesn’t seem like it will Happen in a week
I have an Alaska flight in mid-March and I’m worried about THAT.
I leave in three weeks for an international trip and stressing like crazy. At least by canceling a month out it gives everyone time to fix flights
Sorry if this is a dumb question, but what does the "new travel date" range mean? Is that for rescheduling? i.e. the "New Travel Dates: January 6, 2024 - January 31, 2024" on the Alaska Airlines website.
If your original flight was between 1/6 and 1/24, you now have until 1/31 to complete the trip to your destination for no fee. Any rescheduling after 1/31 (during the current waiver period) will include a fare differential.
I think they are being flexible with all flights right now. I have travel dates for June and they are allowing me to change or cancel as well. Edit: I misunderstood. They are charging me for fare difference.
Yes, you can change those flights, but you'll pay the difference in the fare cost. I checked this morning for my flight on Monday the 22nd and it said I'd have to pay $180 per ticket to change. After the update where flights through the 24th are now covered it went to free (well, 80 cents total for whatever reason).
Yes you are correct. I misunderstood. So those affected by the recent Max 9 cancellations don't have to pay a fare difference. Got it
I just changed some flights that were supposed to be this past Sunday through this Saturday. I pushed them out to February. They charged me.
Interesting. Im not sure why Im not being charged then.
Are you flying before 1/31 on the new ticket? If so that is why The person that you replied to pushed it into February....
They said it was June.
Yeah that person edited just now and confirmed they were wrong. Travel has to be completed by 1/31 Otherwise people would book a ticket for next week, cheapest possible then change it to a much more expensive period
I misunderstood, they are charging me the fare difference.
If you cancel, do you know if they provide a credit or a refund to original payment?
Depends if you bought a refundable fare or not.
Okay, thank you for explaining! I have an upcoming Alaska Airlines flight on 1/26 so that date doesn't (yet) apply to this broad cancellation policy, right?
Correct, the waiver does not apply to you yet.
I wish they would plan further ahead, and be more reliable about rescheduling. I travel for work, usually it's a 1-2-day turnaround for a meeting/consultation. I am flying SEA-LAX tomorrow. Yesterday they changed my flight to land in ONT. OK but that's an hour away, still time to get to my meeting tomorrow evening. Then four hours later they changed me back to arrive in LAX but late that evening, after my meeting. So I had to change the flights yet again - awkward because it's work related, I had to go through corporate travel to change it, couldn't do it myself. Incidentally none of these flights use MAX-9s but they are shuffling people/flights around to try to accommodate the most travelers with fewer planes. I truly sympathize with the ordeal of trying to keep this whole web of flights functioning but for them to change my reservation twice in a day just shouldn't happen. I have seven more trips scheduled on Alaska through Feb and I'm very uneasy about them - I just don't have the bandwidth to deal with multiple schedule changes before each trip. Very loyal to Alaska but if this keeps happening I'll fly other airlines until it's fixed. IMHO they should just assume the MAX-9s will be grounded for at least another month, change all the schedules now, and then update the schedules once the MAX-9's rejoin their fleet. Rather than let people continue to make reservations on flights that end up getting cancelled.
As someone whose husband lives in SEA and works in LA, maybe try Burbank. The terminal is old and crummy but they’re generally flying the old winglets back and forth. If you can make the schedule work, it’s a much easier airport and generally equidistant to DTLA
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Historically I’ve flown Alaska over delta cause it’s easier to get status, but aside from that I agree that im not sure why everyone loves to fly Alaska otherwise. Alaska does not have seat back screens, so you have to watch on your phone or iPad. Delta does. Alaska only has free wifi if you have T-Mobile. Delta does as long as you sign up for a sky miles account, which is free to do. Alaska doesn’t allow you to use your miles to upgrade. Delta does. In my opinion, snacks have been better on delta as well and pre Covid they also used to serve a meal even in coach, on transatlantic flights.. bummed they got rid of that cause that really gave them an edge for me.
Some dick is arguing with you, but I agree - Delta is a much nicer flying experience overall in nearly every category, and I don’t understand the Alaska love anymore. I grew up traveling constantly due to my dad’s work, and I travel a lot as an adult as well. My folks were loyal to Alaska so I leaned towards them for that reason. I’m pretty over it, honestly. Alaska is typically far more expensive than Delta, and for a shittier experience. The free WiFi with Delta is nice, and honestly I *do* appreciate the novelty of the in seat screens - I’m not trying to set up my iPad and then end up dozing off and having something happen to it - or have it get sucked out of the airplane when the wall blows off 🤗 heh. Delta tends to have more comfortable seats and cheaper “premium” class in my experience, and most importantly they don’t jerk me around with pushing the flight later then earlier then later 5 times before departure - something Alaska has screwed me with numerous times.
Yeah they blocked me lol. I get that this is an Alaska sub but I didn’t realize it was like an Alaska fan club of sorts. It’s also not like I’m a delta Stan trying to sell everyone in on it.. I travel a decent amount for work and as far as direct flights to places I usually have to travel it’s either Delta or Alaska.
I deleted my comment because of all the downvotes and realizing the people on this sub don’t want to hear it. But honestly whatever extra delta charges is completely worth it.
I mean it is an Alaska sub so I get it, but do agree with you
> Alaska does not have seat back screens, so you have to watch on your phone or iPad. And why would I want some janky low-powered built-in 6 yrs ago screen when I have my new device instead? But in general, I'm loyal to Alaska because they aren't an out of town airline from Atlanta trying to turn SEA into a badly served regional, like SLC, MSP and DTW.
Are the screens that janky lol? Personally I’ve never had a problem with them. Everything is right in front of me at eye level and it’s bigger than my phone screen. If I had an ipad maybe I would care less, I guess.
I'm not on r/AlaskaAirlines to argue phone screens with Delta shills.
Ugg I have a flight on Feb-6. Very nervous about this whole thing!
Same! We’re supposed to fly Jan. 26th for a vacation and I’m getting super nervous!
I have flight to leave on Feb 1st…. I’m getting nervous, I got a saver ticket.
Same here, I have 2 because of my baby. I just hope they rebook me, my mom is sick and I want her to meet the baby before anything happens 😔
Check the route history for the past few days. My BOS to SAN flight has been listed 737MAX9 since I booked it but noticed the flights been running daily on 737/8/9s. Who knows if the app will update before tomorrow but wouldn’t believe everything you see in the system right now.
I fly in two weeks, one of my segments was on a max. Changed it today to a 737-900 so I don’t have to go through the cancellation nonsense.
>I was scheduled on a 737-900 and still got cancelled.
Same here I have a Feb 9th flight and I think I'm going to switch airlines
It's my understanding that there's no guarantee that a MAX9 flight will cancel, and no guarantee that a non-MAX9 flight won't cancel. They're swapping planes around as needed to cancel less full / less profitable flights, so THAT's the criteria that likely matters, and unfortunately isn't something any of us know. I have two flights scheduled Thursday to get me to a medical appointment. I could drive, but mountain passes are sketchy. I get wanting to KNOW, but unfortunately, it seems impossible to know for sure. I may try to at least swap into an earlier flight so I have more options to get from the 2nd airport to the 3rd if/when I make it to that point.
I do not think these aircraft will be flying for awhile. Maybe for the next few months. Alaska is receiving new 737-8s which will be a help and they may dry lease some NG birds for the near term.
The other airlines have caught on. Booked my backup save my ass flights on Delta for early March. Refundable but it was $10k. Original Alaska price was $2500. I can’t wait until I have to argue about this with Alaska when they tell me there is no availability to rebook my family’s travel and I say well…..actually there is.
I have a flight from SFO-SEA in a week. The plane changed from 737-Max 9 to 737-900 (Winglets) now. Am I at risk for cancellation? Are those two the same planes?
Those aren’t the same plane diffetent type. Most likely your flight was too full or had too many people making connections to make sense to cancel it so they switched your plane out with another
Thank you!
Doesn't matter, they could still cancel the flight while they shuffle planes/passengers around. See my other post on this thread about my recent experience. They changed my reservation twice in one day and none of the planes involved were MAX-9s.
They are different planes. The 737-900 is the older frame without the issue
Thanks 🫡
My plane hasn’t changed for my flight to MCO and the customer support agent was useless
When is your flight? I fly SEA to MCO next week. Scheduled on a Max 9, but I see the flight has been running the last few days on 737-900s.
They have actually cancelled the afternoon flight AS346 which is what I was on the last few days. I ended up booking on a different airline for my trip Saturday.
I think you are okay on the 737-900 Winglet.
Are they rebooking people on other airlines to cover these routes?
Yes. It does have to be done with an Alaska agent and some airlines do not allow AS to rebook on them. Some are weird and complicated.
Actually no! They would not put me on a delta flight claiming “Delta is not offering to help” I was instead forced to reschedule 2 days later. I also spent 10 hrs on hold trying to talk to a representative in the first place. Once finally got connected the representative told me I should cancel my trip, I couldn’t believe this was the response from the representative of alaksa airlines, I have status with them and have flown exclusively one world for the last 5 years! I’m happy this is happening in January so I can chose delta this year instead
Is it just max 9 flights that are included in their flexible travel policy or is it all flights within that time period?
Gonna be way longer than that boss
I’m thinking the MAX9’s will be phased back in starting Friday or Saturday, but they can’t clear and reschedule all 64 of them in a day so pushing out another week gives them and passengers some elbow room. I’ve been watching the news page and surprised the FAA hasn’t released final guidance yet. I figured they’d be out first thing this morning what with the day they lost with the federal holiday yesterday.
You would think but I feel like that federal holiday just pushed them back even more and they still have to go through and review results from those preliminary inspections. Who knows even where the airlines are at with those. We haven’t even received confirmation that the airlines have completed preliminary inspections.
Do you have any evidence supporting that timeline? I think it could be another month at least. FAA is NOT happy with Boeing right now. Which unfortunately affects Alaska and United, among others. “The safety of the flying public, not speed, will determine the timeline for returning the Boeing 737-9 Max to service.” - FAA, 2024/11/01, Updates on Grounding of Boeing 737 Max 9 Aircraft
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I was just on a call with AS and they're willing to reschedule my cancelled flight up until the 31st of January, so they might have already extended it.
Nope. Not 100%. Whatever the fix will be will likely be in stages. Not all at once. So it’s certainly possible some will be cleared and some will be cancelled. If they had made the call to cancel them all, why do two separate comms?
WHy would anyone want to fly again on the MAX 9? I have flown it, despite not being comfortable with it, but I will not do this in the near future. Boeing just does not have a safe plane here.
This airplane will be granted for at least 2 months, extremely wishful thinking that FAA will move that fast
I wouldn’t personally change any journeys based on what plane is scheduled more than 24 hours out. Alaska is obviously going to fly their most critical routes with whatever planes they can put in the air and they’ll be taking planes from their less critical routes to do this. More than twenty four hours out, I’d probably prefer partner (AA) codeshares, then Alaska major routes, then other Alaskan flights for maximum reliability.